So what the HECK is "postmodernism" really? It's like everyone has a different definition

So what the HECK is "postmodernism" really? It's like everyone has a different definition

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    whitoids thinking they invented the concept of fourth wall breaking and running with it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >whitoids thinking they invented the concept of fourth wall breaking
      They did, though?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >It's like everyone has a different definition
    Truly postmodern

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ask something on IQfy
    >first word of the first reply is "whiteoids"
    Kek this board is like the seething brownpipo version of /misc/

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >seething brownpipo version of /misc/
      That's just regular /misc/.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      IQfy and IQfy are where reddit tourists run off to after getting shitposted out of /misc/

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >he still views everything in terms of le epic website battle
        Embarrassing. Trump lost.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    who has a different definition besides random boomers and jorden peterson fanboys over the internet

    I can't be bothered to recite the definition, so I'll just post this which perfectly encapsulates my views.

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/

    If you think this definition is wrong, take it up with Stanford.

    Generally, they view everything as a subjective "narrative". At best it is the result of healthy skepticism and looking into biases among the mainstream. At worst it is the result of their own biases which conflict with more tangible objective fields like the sciences.

    While theoretical perfect objectivity is not possible, you can achieve a high level of objectivity. There are various things that society teaches that for all intents and purposes are true. I would not trust a "postmodernist engineer" who rejects the need for safety features and margins of error when designing an aircraft wing, for example. Also it is perfectly possible to have healthy skepticism without adhering dogmatically to postmodernist screed.

    So postmodernism is in fact quite a flawed mode of thought, though not for the reasons JP and other hysterics claim, it is also not as relevant as they think, although its rhetoric is used frequently nowadays it is not quite the same.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/
      >That postmodernism is indefinable is a truism. However, it can be described as a set of critical, strategic and rhetorical practices employing concepts such as difference, repetition, the trace, the simulacrum, and hyperreality to destabilize other concepts such as presence, identity, historical progress, epistemic certainty, and the univocity of meaning.
      Wat

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Feelings are just as valid as facts.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of Wikipedia is dogshit but this is actually a good definition.

    >Postmodernism is an intellectual stance or mode of discourse which challenges worldviews associated with Enlightenment rationality dating back to the 17th century. Postmodernism is associated with relativism and a focus on ideology in the maintenance of economic and political power. Postmodernists are "skeptical of explanations which claim to be valid for all groups, cultures, traditions, or races, and instead focuses on the relative truths of each person". It considers "reality" to be a mental construct. Postmodernism rejects the possibility of unmediated reality or objectively-rational knowledge, asserting that all interpretations are contingent on the perspective from which they are made; claims to objective fact are dismissed as naive realism.

    Postmodern thinkers frequently describe knowledge claims and value systems as contingent or socially-conditioned, describing them as products of political, historical, or cultural discourses and hierarchies. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, and irreverence. Postmodernism is often associated with schools of thought such as deconstruction and post-structuralism. Postmodernism relies on critical theory, which considers the effects of ideology, society, and history on culture. Postmodernism and critical theory commonly criticize universalist ideas of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, language, and social progress.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism#:~:text=11%20External%20links-,Definition,of%20economic%20and%20political%20power.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That which is after "modernism".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What is modernism

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Modernism is normal literary practices within western society. Postmodernists believe that by abandoning literary structure and practices of a society that they deem imperfect that they will find a better alternative. It's no wonder everything ever created with this line of thought has been hot liquid diarrhea

        It's like Jazz but for writing
        >I'm going to get strung out on heroin and play random notes and try and make it sound good

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Jazz is good, it makes you feel primal

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The other guy is pretty much correct, but I will put it through a different analogy so there will be more reference points and so I myself could understand it better.

        Modernism is a somewhat of a synonym for standard, since you could say that what makes society "modern" compared to "non modern" is standards. Like the concept of "public road", services, measurements, procedure, rules and practices. They are all standardized as in following certain requirements or procedures, I assume the underlying idea here is mass production, since this is where standardization is most needed.

        But it's only one perspective. From what it seems, this concept of "modernism" had originated in art first and then spread through all the other mediums, like politics, economics, music and philosophy, just like previous anon alluded to and so others too.

        Granted, all of these mediums are art, but no one says so, so there are bound to be some confusions like OPs, considering all the mediums that you can apply this notion of "modernism" to. Pretty sure every field has its own modern and post modern notions with respective dates depending on the field so it makes it that more confusing.

        Another thing I noticed too that although "modernism" is considered to be more of a standard, or unmoving point, "postmodernism" which is a derivative of it, is actually a movement without a certain place. It's a notion, as many had described, which is again, very much confusing.

        A notion that is reactionary to modernism, which is an unmoving standard. This is important, since I believe there are concepts such as post-post modernism, which through this notion of Reaction will be a reaction to post modernism.

        Problem is, there isn't much to do past modernism/post-modernism relation. Movement and immovement is a duality, dependent on each other, and so it's a closed system. To go past it, you have to invent new duality, since this is how things work, and that ain't happening anytime soon.
        >Limt

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Modernism is a somewhat of a synonym for standard,
          Lol no

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yup. Modernosm and postmodernism seem like worthless words because they are, they were made up by leftists. The only thing the left has control over is language so when they try and create a movement they try and stick a flag in the sand and say "everything before is different, everything in the future is because of our influence". It's narcissistic nonsense, tyranny of vocabulary

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    postmodernism is critical theory applied to historical literary practices

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's like how some people say "True communism hasn't been tried yet"
    Same bullshit ethos from coincidentally the same people

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Incredulity towards metanarratives

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Modernism = history explained by big theories
    Postmodernism = history has many small explanations by many small theories

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