>you want your mix at like 5-10% hydrogen, the rest air, a balloon will do all the compression you need
not for >your own 4 stroke hydrogen engine running
you don't
you actually need to separate and compress hydrogen for it
>you actually need to separate and compress hydrogen for it
Nope, the ogygen and hydrogen will ignite naturally, also you don't need to make it from water. Vinegar will do the trick without giving up oxygen. So you then just need to mix it in the cylinder (the "richness" or "choke").
It's solved by tinkering rednecks already. It's over for the naysayers.
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Anonymous
>the ogygen and hydrogen will ignite naturally
sure, again, i n s i d e the engine
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Nope you just need a fuel line that's on the other side of a 1 way valve with a small balloon of just slightly more hydrogen than ambient pressure lol. look at the image i posted
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
can you post like the source of this image? like with the engine running?
So I'm gonna tow a shit ton of balloons around while I mow my lawn? You need to compress it so it's practical to use as a fuel. I'm assuming you'd regulate it down to atmospheric pressure as it enters the carburetor and mixes with air. If you didn't compress it how else would you carry around enough volume if hydrogen to mow for an hour or more?
How old are you guys? Is everyone here a business school dropout?
use solar, store power in batteries, use batteries to send power to into water with eletrodes that split it to oxygen and hydrogen, burn for cooking or in engine
>use solar, store power in batteries
Net energy gain >use batteries to send power to into water with eletrodes that split it to oxygen and hydrogen
20-30% energy loss >burn for cooking or in engine
40-60% net energy loss
You're better off just using the electricity to run an electric motor or electric stove.
with your tiny ass thumbnail i am calling bullshit and you vastly underpowering your shit.,
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
hydrogen gas is the most explosive thing there is, you don't need much
4 weeks ago
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you should be regulating output by power not with a balloon anon. have fun dont blow your house up like a meth lab
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>by power
what do you mean by power
So I'm gonna tow a shit ton of balloons around while I mow my lawn? You need to compress it so it's practical to use as a fuel. I'm assuming you'd regulate it down to atmospheric pressure as it enters the carburetor and mixes with air. If you didn't compress it how else would you carry around enough volume if hydrogen to mow for an hour or more?
How old are you guys? Is everyone here a business school dropout?
>So I'm gonna tow a shit ton of balloons around while I mow my lawn?
Nah just use one really hard one meant to last for many years
100% hydrogen will explode an engine, you mix it with air before you compress it just like with gas or natural gas or diesel...
the secret isn't storing it, it's making it at the point of use, that's why the oil companies will never make money on hydrogen, storage is impossible and retarded but you can easily make small, hyper explosive amounts from any old shit at hand like rusty nails and vinegar lol
>you mix it with air before you compress it just like with gas or natural gas or diesel...
yeah when it's IN the combustion chamber
but before you feed it, you got to have hydrogen separated and compressed, just like LPG or CNG
Have you done the math for, let's say, miles per gallon if you were to put your engine on a motorcycle?
I did calculations for gassification using charcoal briquettes made from corn, but the field you'd need to get a year's worth of gas for travel and power generation is quite large.
Not what we're talking about but in WWII gasifiers could run about 20 miles on 4 big pieces of wood. It was an official VW conversion for wartime economy.
So I'm going to just conclude you have no math to demonstrate the efficiency of your hydrogen fuel since you keep fighting me over gasification rather than answering my question. Bye.
So I'm going to just conclude you have no math to demonstrate the efficiency of your hydrogen fuel since you keep fighting me over gasification rather than answering my question. Bye.
no, you need a bit more but you are close
is this a real question?
what are the israelites gonna raise the price on aluminum can shavings and vinegar?
the amount of hydrogen you obtain this way is minuscule, you'd need to do this in an airless environment and still there is an issue of compressing it
nah you don't need much, it's hyper explosive, you want your mix at like 5-10% hydrogen, the rest air, a balloon will do all the compression you need
>you want your mix at like 5-10% hydrogen, the rest air, a balloon will do all the compression you need
not for
>your own 4 stroke hydrogen engine running
you don't
you actually need to separate and compress hydrogen for it
>you actually need to separate and compress hydrogen for it
Nope, the ogygen and hydrogen will ignite naturally, also you don't need to make it from water. Vinegar will do the trick without giving up oxygen. So you then just need to mix it in the cylinder (the "richness" or "choke").
It's solved by tinkering rednecks already. It's over for the naysayers.
>the ogygen and hydrogen will ignite naturally
sure, again, i n s i d e the engine
Nope you just need a fuel line that's on the other side of a 1 way valve with a small balloon of just slightly more hydrogen than ambient pressure lol. look at the image i posted
can you post like the source of this image? like with the engine running?
So I'm gonna tow a shit ton of balloons around while I mow my lawn? You need to compress it so it's practical to use as a fuel. I'm assuming you'd regulate it down to atmospheric pressure as it enters the carburetor and mixes with air. If you didn't compress it how else would you carry around enough volume if hydrogen to mow for an hour or more?
How old are you guys? Is everyone here a business school dropout?
rain falls from the sky
please explain for the retarded
use solar, store power in batteries, use batteries to send power to into water with eletrodes that split it to oxygen and hydrogen, burn for cooking or in engine
>use solar, store power in batteries
Net energy gain
>use batteries to send power to into water with eletrodes that split it to oxygen and hydrogen
20-30% energy loss
>burn for cooking or in engine
40-60% net energy loss
You're better off just using the electricity to run an electric motor or electric stove.
true its why its a back up to the backup. with op needing a balloon on "his" setup its shows
it just adds pressure to the line
with your tiny ass thumbnail i am calling bullshit and you vastly underpowering your shit.,
hydrogen gas is the most explosive thing there is, you don't need much
you should be regulating output by power not with a balloon anon. have fun dont blow your house up like a meth lab
>by power
what do you mean by power
>So I'm gonna tow a shit ton of balloons around while I mow my lawn?
Nah just use one really hard one meant to last for many years
100% hydrogen will explode an engine, you mix it with air before you compress it just like with gas or natural gas or diesel...
the secret isn't storing it, it's making it at the point of use, that's why the oil companies will never make money on hydrogen, storage is impossible and retarded but you can easily make small, hyper explosive amounts from any old shit at hand like rusty nails and vinegar lol
>you mix it with air before you compress it just like with gas or natural gas or diesel...
yeah when it's IN the combustion chamber
but before you feed it, you got to have hydrogen separated and compressed, just like LPG or CNG
No, you have cancer if do it wrong, the worst kinds of cancer too
Have you done the math for, let's say, miles per gallon if you were to put your engine on a motorcycle?
I did calculations for gassification using charcoal briquettes made from corn, but the field you'd need to get a year's worth of gas for travel and power generation is quite large.
Not what we're talking about but in WWII gasifiers could run about 20 miles on 4 big pieces of wood. It was an official VW conversion for wartime economy.
I'm aware. But growing enough trees to get that wood is even more land required vs using corn converted to charcoal.
That's why I've become interested in using hydrogen instead. Just wondering if you have ran the calculations for that.
you just use downed wood collected as you drive down the road due lol
That's not scalable for a society. It's an emergency option only.
>literally measure the mpg of piss and vinegar
So I'm going to just conclude you have no math to demonstrate the efficiency of your hydrogen fuel since you keep fighting me over gasification rather than answering my question. Bye.
>burn gas
>make hydrogen
>burn hydrogen
>make steak
Anon you genius