So is it an American ethnoreligion?

So is it an American ethnoreligion?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the fact that utah doesn't use this as their state flag is a travesty second only to Illinois discarding the centennial flag

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait until you see the horrorshow of a flag they’re adopting on March 9, 2024 lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They haven't even picked any designs yet homosexual, fuck off.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They already decided on the weird beehive one

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah the beehive is based.
            Long live Deseret.

            the fact that utah doesn't use this as their state flag is a travesty second only to Illinois discarding the centennial flag

            This.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah agree with Deseret and the OP flag, but the weird beehive one isn’t what you think it is:
              >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Utah#/media/File%3A2022_Utah_Flag_design.svg

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No that was the one I was thinking of. It’s pretty good as far as US State flags go
                t. Australian
                The beehive is directly tied to Deseret *pic related*
                It’s much better than the current flag which is too complex and only includes a small beehive. Finally and worst, having words let alone “INDUSTRY” on your flag is dumb.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the most "white" religion out there
    > invasive down to its very origin
    > perverts everything sacred by making a fanfiction out of thousand year old texts
    > duplicitous in their morals
    > racist
    > full of whites
    > devalues women
    > very strict pecking order
    > fraternal with their brother people, the turks
    White boys need to stop trying to insert themselves in religions/cultures they have no business getting involved in, they all need to head to Utah and convert. This is a spirituality tailor made for them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So you believe that races should be kept separate?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I believe you should stop roleplaying, and embrace Joseph Smith PBUH. Stay in your own lane.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mormons are basically Christian Muslims.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, with an added racist element. All the more reason for chuds to what they have back home instead of shitting up actual religions that are thousands of years old.
            > "their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people."
            > 2 Nephi 30:6

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how is it an ethnoreligion if they go out of their way to try convert people of other ethnicities ?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The people they convert are never accepted, they just want their money. They look down on them and never include them in any of their affairs. I feel bad for all the pinoy/latinx converts I see.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The people they convert are never accepted
        says who ?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Says a lot of nonwhites in the religion. It's not rocket science bud, this whole religion is white shariah. There's an inherent bias they have against nonwhites.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Says a lot of nonwhites in the religion
            like...

            Because other religions require kids born to followers to still undergo a baptism, either in childhood or adulthood.
            In ethnoreligions, if you’re born to followers of the religion you’re automatically enrolled into the club.

            going by that definition, the term seem just useless pedantry

            also everywhere else I checked used ethnoreligion as synonym with ethnic religion

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group
              Those “sources” are wrong then. Almost every single one of these ethnoreligious groups accepts converts.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its not true anyway. There are tons of brown Mormons who moved to Utah to be with the main flock. White Mormons sponsor them and encourage them and treat them the same as all Mormons.
          Of course thats just LDS, 95% of Mormons, there are some small extremist and blood obsessed Mormon groups that splintered off of the LDS in the past.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All ethnoreligions have conversion, you are confusing it with an ethnic religion (and a strictly endogamous one closed to conversion at that). Islam and Judaism, for example, are ethnoreligions because your status as a member of that religion is inherited through your parents, but non-members can also convert into it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >e your status as a member of that religion is inherited through your parents, but non-members can also convert into it
        how is that different than just a regular, non ethnic, religion ?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because other religions require kids born to followers to still undergo a baptism, either in childhood or adulthood.
          In ethnoreligions, if you’re born to followers of the religion you’re automatically enrolled into the club.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No there are a surprising amount of Polynesian Mormons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      All ethnoreligions have conversion, you are confusing it with an ethnic religion (and a strictly endogamous one closed to conversion at that). Islam and Judaism, for example, are ethnoreligions because your status as a member of that religion is inherited through your parents, but non-members can also convert into it.

      you don’t understand what an ethnoreligion is. Please look up the meaning of terms you are unfamiliar with in future. Fucking idiot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are the retard here

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can convert into the vast majority of these groups.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ethnic religions would be like Shinto, Hinduism, Pagan religions, Taoism etc. that don't accept converts/allow conversion or proselytize because they don't have a concept of conversion (They didn't really have a full grasp off the entire world when they were being developed in pre-ancient times). Mormonism isn't an ethnic religion because Mormonism doesn't have any religious practices or deities that are only really conceptualized for a single culture. Even if it biased against blacks the religion itself claims itself to be the true religion of specifically all cultures worldwide and for all of humanity and that humanity has to be revealed to it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sort of correct, some of those religions you mentioned though do allow “converts” as all you need to do to follow them is follow their way of life. It’s not that you can’t convert into them, it’s just that there is no formal process of conversion, you simply start living them.
      But there are closed groups. Closed religions that simply do not mix and do not accept new followers.
      However they are rare and usually just tribal cults.

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