So I was thinking, did Ozzy ever do anything besides vocals for sabbath or even his solo stuff? Write songs? Play instruments? From what I remember from his time in sabbath he didn't really do much of anything besides get coked out of his mind and sing. How's he so famous when he seemingly doesn't have any part in the music besides performing it. Dio played instruments, had a much better understanding of music and singing and wrote his own songs so it pisses me off that Ozzy seems to be more famous than him.
He chomped on a bat too if I remember correctly.
>did Ozzy ever do anything besides vocals for sabbath or even his solo stuff?
Got a israeli wife to run PR for him
Yeah I guess I forgot about her. Dude would probably be dead if it weren't for her
Because the singer is the most important and iconic member of the band. Cope and seethe if you disagree.
But is he really a big part if he doesn't contribute to the art in any way
Vocals are an instruments without vocals you don't have songs, you have pieces
A lot of people can sing better than Ozzy. Singing is important but it's way less impressive when you're just a face and don't actually have a part in how the song sounds or the lyrics being written
It's not about singing better
He's a shite singer but a great vocalist, perfect one for sabbath
>without vocals you don't have songs,
>never heard an instrumental
Sorry to burst your bubble but I have indeed heard pieces, or instrumentals as you've chosen to call them, many times before.
then you would know that you can have songs without vocals- instead of making assinine comments.
what a midwit take
I'm going to contribute my cum and piss to an abstract artpiece on your chest
Yeah. Laymen can't even name any of the other members in Sabbath and I'm sure a good number of metal fans would struggle to name anybody beyond Iommi too.
I've looked into this, apparently he would play the synth during some recording sessions. Presumably it was pretty basic stuff
Ozzys detached, haunted vocals and the slower, doomy sound of early Sabbath were a perfect match. I cant stand Sabbath without Ozzy, but also I cant stand Ozzy without Sabbath.
Was Dio a more accomplished musician? Yeah, for sure, but the vast majority of his recorded output was, in comparison to early Sabbath, relatively formulaic, unremarkable and anonymous heavy metal, and the same could be said for his voice itself. While he was a very capable singer there was nothing unique or particularly distinctive about his voice. Those slightly screamy/operatic heavy metal singers were practically a cliche in the late 70s and 80s. Ozzy on the other hand, while less technically able, is instantly recognisable and was a big part in what gave early Sabbath an extremely distinct atmosphere/flavour/whatever you want to call it, that was unreplaceable.
There's no comparison, Dio is a great trad heavy metal singer, a pioneer, great in Rainbow and Elf and his solo career is iconic too, but influenced so much disgusting lame music, in melodic neoclassical metal, and his era in Sabbath is a great trad heavy metal band, with Iommi guitar work, they kept Sabbathian, but they lost so much without Ozzy, All the Ozzy's records are better than any Dio one, even maybe comparing Technical Ecstasy with Heaven and Hell.
Ozzy's Sabbath in the other hand, is one of the most original rock band ever, just a monster blues heavy rock band, there's no comparison, i hate when critic categorizes Ozzy's era as a metal band, metal bands are sabbathian, not the other way around, they're so much more than, maybe in some cases makes sense, but anyways Ozzy owns any other era.
Its a good indicator of someone has shitty taste of music is he prefers other singer besides Ozzy, you know he is a restart metal head, even worst if he chooses any cheese 80 Tony Martin poodle era, is just disgusting.
>All of Ozzy's records are better than any Dio one
Holy fucking shit anon, this has to be bait
if we're talking about the two eras of Sabbath, which I think is what he was saying, I agree with him 100%
as for comparing their solo outputs or with other bands, I have no opinion because none of it holds any value for me
I can sit through entire Dio albums and not get bored. I can listen to sabbath albums and have to skip tracks to get to the good ones.
>Great voice
Unique doesn't mean great. His singing is good, but outside of being recognizable it's nothing amazing
>I can sit through entire Dio albums and not get bored. I can listen to sabbath albums and have to skip tracks to get to the good ones.
>Unique doesn't mean great. His singing is good, but outside of being recognizable it's nothing amazing
yeah well, thats subjectivity. I feel the opposite. Well, kind of, I dont like Dio's music at all. thats why its pointless arguing over what music is "best," but theres no denying that Ozzys voice is more distinctive than Dio (ie, objectivity). dozens of metal singers sound similar to Dio, no one really sounds like Ozzy, which was the main thrust of my post here
and is more or less what many others are saying too, these guys among them
and its the unique quality of Ozzys voice that so many people value in early Sabbath as opposed to technical skill
>dozens of metal singers sound similar to Dio,
>widely considered one of the most distinctive voices in all of heavy metal
lol.
I believe he should've phrased it along the lines of "many singers are similar to Dio technique wise" like his rasp is the prototipical rock/metal sounds you'd want to have in your voice
still sounds like Cope. Dio has a very distinct voice.
he had but still, you can trace similarities, closest to Ozzy is Zakk who has been with him forever and as a high voice too, and he still doesn't sounds like him
>dozens of metal singers sound similar to Dio
name 5
Fuck that bullshit. Heaven and Hell is one of the best Sabbath albums ever.
Ozzy is a personality, he's the loveable goof of heavy metal, and like David Lee Roth, he's a rock n' roll clown. Have you ever seen Ozzy live? He acts like a retard, but it's funny and endearing, it's kind of an inside joke that he was "the prince of darkness" to normies when to us he's the loveable drugged out oaf.
Dio, was a better singer, but Dio's seriousness is in part why he's not as much of a celebrity as Ozzy, Ozzy had that special boy personality.
Man I love when people who don't listen to metal talk about it. Nobody sounded like Dio other than Dio, his voice is instantly recognizable. I'm sure in your head you think you're clever thinking "yeah everyone in the nwobhm sounded like Dio" when anybody who listens to this music knows.....no that's not the case at all.
And this is what's kind of annoying about Sabbath discussions, too many non metalheads pretend to be fans of them. Only metalheads REALLY understand Iommi's greatness, you're just infatuated with the 70s dark hippie vibe without really getting the magic, cause if you were a real Iommi fan, you'd understand his evolution regardless. Poser Sabbath fans deserve death, they belong to us not you, stick to your homosexual rock.
>Ozzy is a personality, he's the loveable goof of heavy metal, and like David Lee Roth, he's a rock n' roll clown.
imagine the shenanigans of those 2 on tour. Someone has some stories.
I wouldn't want to be a line of coke on that tour
>not as much of a celebrity as Ozzy,
but it was the TV show that took his popularity and fame beyond heavy metal
I don't pretend to like anything, you dumbell, i listen to them since i was a little kid, and they are one of my favorite bands, i didn't said i don't like Dio and his voice is not unique or something, but just deny that Dio and Rainbow, are one of the pillars of the power metal/melodic neoclassical symphonic metal bullshit is just trying to be retard and defend you horrible taste in music, besides Dio, Michael Kiske of Helloween are the offenders of creating this horrible pompous type of music, if you prefer the little faggy keyboard intro of Holy Diver than the first three Sabbath albums, is not my fault.
>Ozzy is a personality, he's the loveable goof of heavy metal, and like David Lee Roth, he's a rock n' roll clown.
Just in this line i can see you are just a moronic peron who sees those musicians are some type of entertainment personalities that people must folllow because they are retard, i didn't even remember that Ozzy started act retarded in the 80s with his solo act live, i never cared about thi Prince of Darkness projection image bullshit of Ozzy,i was analyzing their musical output, not the cultural media gossip, rock magazine fan, teenager retard icon worshipper like you.
I'm not a metalhead because i am not a retarded,as a fan of music, but i enjoy metal a lot, always did, Morbid Angel, Bathory, Celtic Frost, Candlemass, Bolt Thrower, always liked good bands, never said that every NWOBHM singer sounded the same, Judas, Saxon, Diamond Head, Venom, Iron Maiden any of those bands sound the same.
You re exacly the shred guitar, faggy scream NPC metalhead that everybody hates for being so cringe, get out of here, with you bad taste, taling about ozzy the darkness clown and david lee roth, you homosexual.
Trying to read your post gave me a headache, learn how to type
You have shit taste ya ESL retard, only metalheads should talk about metal anyway. Talk about "cringe", nothing is more cringe than non metalheads trying to be part of the club by cherry picking what they deem cool and uncool like hipster appropriators of our music standing on a soap box as self proclaimed experts. Nobody cares what you like.
Whenever I see someone bitch about "shred" I know they're a punk/alternafag too, always the most annoying person in a metal discussion. Like wow, you hate some of the defining features of metal music....you're so....metal? You only like Sabbath because no talent bands like Black Flag ripped them off, that'd be like me trying to claim to be the worlds biggest Dead Kennedys fan just cause Slayer liked them.
What is a good modern metal band?
lol if you were a real sabbath fan you would hve posted about bill ward, not iommi. go cut the tip of your tiny peen off, iommi cunt.
Yes he played the Harmonica in the Wizard and played the synth and compose Who Are You? from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath which is pretty cool
Didn’t he come up the vocal melodies and then geezer wrote the lyrics to it?
he's famous for being a performer and entertainer with remarkable stage presence and great voice.
having an unique, recognizable voice trumps most technique issues
Crazy
but that's how it goes
There is nothing wrong with being a performer.
Yep and he was great at it.
Ozzy has an incredibly unique if not impressive voice. He wasn’t exactly the lyricist that geezer was, but he did come up with lyrics and vocal Melody some times. He plays the harmonica. He is an incredible showman and band leader. Ozzy brings a certain X-factor to the table.
His wife is an incredible manager and business woman whether or not you like her aside-she knows how to make money.
Don’t worry though Ronnie James Dio is super well respected too and he got to eat.
Tony, Geezer, Randy, Bob and Jake wrote all of his stuff. He is an autistic druggie with a smart israeli wife
I do not care at all about Master of Reality.
He's a singer he sang. Who gives a shit if he played the piano in his spare time you fucking nerd