So how exactly did this happen?

So how exactly did this happen?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    one type of mysoginy exchanged for another kind

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Made up non-word

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Men started to respect women more.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ragheads got one thing right and wised up about weak societies run by whores.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Premodern Arabia, Turkey, Nafrica, Persia
      >run by whores

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aryan influence changed to sandnagger influence

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first is made up by some European.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coomer Orientalists in the 19th Century who have never been to Asia project their fantasies upon the continent.

    Kinda like weeabs who have never been to Japan.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the burqa a berber thing?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      An Eastern thing actually

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    bare midriff Belly Dancers never existed at all. Its just Orientalists mistaking Pajeet culture as Muslim culture.

    This is what an OG Belly Dancer outfit looks like. It still does to this day in the Middle East.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol no. Try watching belly dancers in Egypt.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Lol no. Try watching belly dancers in Egypt.
        Americanized Cairo Dancer girls with Cali accents =/= OG Belly Dancers

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >belly dancers
        those whores are modern creation tho during the the secularization of Egypt at the hand of Muhammad Ali and later on by the British influence
        they never existed back when the Mamluks or pre-Muhammad Ali Ottomans were in charge

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    T. E. Lawrence happened.

    This British glowie basically created the modern Islamic world by handing the govenrments of the Levant over to the most savage and backwards dune coons in the world, motivated mostly by a weird mix or orientalist romanticism and latent sadism.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      cringe + dumb reddit take

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Reddit
        >anti- muslim

        i hate islam so much bros

        They hate anyone who doesn't bow to the black cube of saturn

        Literally open up a history book that is not written by dune coon authors. Neither Seljuks or Ottomans encouraged it. In fact it's not even properly written in the Quran itself, it's arab culture disguising itself as Islam, but Islam in essence is just arab culture itself disguising itself so it goes hand in hand.

        The Ottomans were for the most part more degenerate than most Europeans, they didn't even marry devout Islamic women, but always took christian slave wives.

        >they wanted the white women

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      T.E. Lawrence genuinely believed in the plan to free the Arabian people from the empire, and was horrified and ashamed for the rest of his life that the brits lied to him and just put them into the British empire instead of the ottoman one. That's why he was so outspoken against the nobility and they kept writing hate mail about him long after he died.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the bongs!!!!
      I don't agree with this, but "dune coon" is by far the best thing I've heard in a while

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Iirc the Assyrians started this trend and like many other things it got grandfathered into islam.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Left is a painting with no historical basis. A mere white coomer brain fantasy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nope.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    oriental paintings dont represent reality also when it did happen it was in the privacy of the harem which is between the woman and her husband

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the one on the right has permission to rape me

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    trad wives always wore niqab or burka

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The castle in the background looks kinda western, is this some kind of crusader relic?

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Civilization goes through cycles, morals harden and loses, Roman woman used to wear the burqa at start of their history for example.
    In the late period of the abbasid caliphate a new fashion of woman dressing in boys clothing was all the rage that caused increas in homosexuality, there was one caliph that refused to fuck any woman that didn't dress like a boy, he also was very fond of feminine boys.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Source of abbassid tomboys?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one caliph that refused to fuck any woman that didn't dress like a boy, he also was very fond of feminine boys.
      That was Ummayad prince in Spain, I think.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >left
    a western Orientialist's fantasy
    >right
    reality

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hate islam so much bros

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >left
    infidel cringe
    >right
    based

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, Burqas are an abomination, not because its mean to le women but because its ugly, dystopian and offensive to to creation.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        SIMP

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >not because its mean to le women

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Its ugly, dystopian and offensive to creation.
        Actually, yes.
        Not even anti-muslim.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Orientalist 19th-century European coomer painting

    vs.

    >Actual image of a woman in the Middle East

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit this board is retarded and reddit. Burqas weren't common in the ottoman empire certainly not in metropolitan areas.
    Muh orientalism is cope for muslim incels who got into university through affirmative action.
    No muslim state in history was run by deranged literalists to the point like 20th century glowie larp states.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here is a photo of an ottoman woman. If god exists everybody in this thread who talked about orientalism will get cancer.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Photos deboonk orientalism
        Yeah and the Samurai wore armor in the 1860s.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the most annoying feminists decided it was misogynist to appreciate women's figures and the most annoying Muslim men decided it was unGodly to look at what God created unless it's the ass of the man you're prostrating behind.

    Some people just want to control others and they appreciate the dehumanizing effect of covering the face. They also understand that covering the face makes reading emotion and non-verbal cues more difficult.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want an honest answer, some of it can be traced to Salafism(Wahhabism) in Saudi-Arabia, Sayyid Qutb through the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Ahmad Fardid in Iran. All of these three people/schools of thought were some kind of religious reaction to modernism and colonialism. The arguments always boiled down to that Arabs/Muslims must forge a new path away from both Western materialism and Soviet statism, neither of these systems "fit" the Arab mindset or the religion of Islam.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      good answer

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good one, hardcore Islam LARP is just a reaction out of fear of losing identity.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most existed at the same time moron

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Puritan Anglo-Saxons in Saudi Arabia created modern Islam. Look up “Salafism”.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first one is largely a meme.
    Outside of harems, where it's perfectly fine to be scantily clad with one's own concubines, the former was never a mainstream occurrence in wider society outside of fringe individuals and events.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Left is a literal slave

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So?

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    IIRC Islam was pretty degenerate under Ottomans, just look up the sultanate of women.

    Modern day Islam is just wahhabism and salafism DUNC coons, it was handed over to them on a platter, especially since the Turks gave no fuck anymore post Ataturk.

    If the west really cared they'd just kept Islam under the Ottomans/Turkey or someone not as inbred and backwards as salafists. But short term politics goes beyond all, divide and conquer. Loyal inbred dune coon slaves who will hand over all resources in the middle-east is always preferrable over anyone competent who would not allow you to exploit the area.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      except sufi ottomans also enforced niqab

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally open up a history book that is not written by dune coon authors. Neither Seljuks or Ottomans encouraged it. In fact it's not even properly written in the Quran itself, it's arab culture disguising itself as Islam, but Islam in essence is just arab culture itself disguising itself so it goes hand in hand.

        The Ottomans were for the most part more degenerate than most Europeans, they didn't even marry devout Islamic women, but always took christian slave wives.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          no its in hanafi fiqh retard

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It only states to "dress modesty", but in a arabs brain, this translates to "cover yourself" as they are inbred incels who frequently got jealous that they are ugly pieces of shit and their women would easily leave them if they got the chance.

            There is nowhere it states to "cover yourself", and Ottoman history is degenerate and unrelated to modern Islam which is just inbred bedouin dune coon culture, It's even more hilarious when modern day Islamists try to claim anything with Islam of the past, especially Ottomans.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              stop larping, niqab is valid in all 4 schools of sunni islam, even shiism, all hanafis enforced niqab and burka, it was like taliban which are hanafi maturidi, not salafi, everyone in ottoman areas wore the niqab

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >left Turk
    >right Saudi Arabian

    also

    >left orientalist European art
    >right photo

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    European men started to steal arabic women, so The arabs decided to cover up their women, so that the euros wont lust after them as much.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    At any given time in history, different people dress more or less modestly depending upon their personality and social circle.

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So how exactly did this happen?
    Anglos have started supporting fundamentalistic puritans since 19 century since movements with no cultural background were easier to influence

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah let's hear what this nagger has to say about Islam

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