Should I join the US military?


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I've always been told I'm a hard worker but I think otherwise. I believe I need encouragement and nobody I know can teach that so I'm thinking of joining or training for the military. I ran a business and did well but felt nothing from it. I also used to go to the gym, eat healthy, all sorts of shit. Hell I used to even carry a backpack full of rocks up and down a hill for fun but have fallen out of it, all of it. I'm in my early 20s now. Is there anything I should know about the US military? Specifically the Marines. Resources and opinions are both extremely helpful.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well remember, if you're a weaboo you can put Okinawa on your dream list and once your tour is finished you can spend GI bill on English speaking schools with a Sattelite campus in Tokyo
    that's what this guy did. He was a medic in the military

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Okinawa

      Is not real Japan. It's Okinawa. Trust me, you don't want to get stationed there. Mainland or bust.

      t. spent a year in Fukuoka and another 6 months in Okinawa

      https://i.imgur.com/7AMcOLt.jpg

      I've always been told I'm a hard worker but I think otherwise. I believe I need encouragement and nobody I know can teach that so I'm thinking of joining or training for the military. I ran a business and did well but felt nothing from it. I also used to go to the gym, eat healthy, all sorts of shit. Hell I used to even carry a backpack full of rocks up and down a hill for fun but have fallen out of it, all of it. I'm in my early 20s now. Is there anything I should know about the US military? Specifically the Marines. Resources and opinions are both extremely helpful.

      No matter what branch you go into, the military will change you. For better or worse. Most veterans can spot another veteran from a mile away just by how they walk and carry themselves. Former marines in particular stand out.

      Really, what you get out of the military is up to you. What do you actually want? Adventure? A free ride to college and some trade skills? A place to waste your time for a few years till you figure out your life?

      Each branch has its own idiosyncrasies and lifestyle. Where would you want to live for 4-5 years and what kind of routine would you want?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        expanding on this, here's kind of a generalized breakdown of each branch.

        >Army
        Largest branch, jobs are very specific. You are a humvee mechanic, that's all you will do. You will most likely get stationed in some midwest shithole for the entire enlistment and do the same hum drum thing over and over and over again with almost no opportunity for travel. Ranking is pretty easy though because of how large the Army is and how dumb your competition is going to be.

        >Navy
        Unless you do something like Corpsman or Seabee or something to do with Aircraft, you are going to be on a ship for 6 months out of the year. That being said, you will be stationed on the coast somewhere or overseas in Japan or Europe, which is pretty fuckin' nice. Lots of cross training, you'll wear a bunch of different hats and learn other peoples jobs. If you want to travel, join this branch.

        >Air Force
        If you want top tier technical training and to compete against actually intelligent people, join this branch. It's alot like the Army where you'll be stationed at some midwest base for 4 years but the professional development is an order of magnitude better.

        >Marines

        Marines are their own special little creatures. They are fuckin' crazy and you will have some unbelievable stories and adventures. Some good, some not so good. You will also get in the best shape of your life but also run a higher risk of PTSD or alcoholism or both.

        >Coast Guard
        pssh, these niggas straight chillin' all day erry day just rescuing fishermen and drunken boomers on their yachts. maybe catch some cartel drug smugglers. very laid back, low stress, but also the smallest and most desirable branch to join for most people. advancement is hard and even getting in can be difficult.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm in my early 20s now. Is there anything I should know about the US military?
    first, you will be forced to take vaccines as required by US Government. Think about that for a moment.

    >I ran a business and did well but felt nothing from it.
    what makes you think becoming a soldier will make you ~feel~ something? If anything it has taught me- it will turn you more into an empty husk.

    >I also used to go to the gym, eat healthy, all sorts of shit. Hell I used to even carry a backpack full of rocks up and down a hill for fun
    that's one thing you will be sure to have in the US Army- is constant physical exertion and exercise. Lack of sleep, muscle fatigue and soreness, injury. It will push you to your physical and mental limits if that's what you desire. If you cannot or have not pushed yourself to your absolute limits- I do not advise for you to join. You will exercise every day and every morning right after you wake up and you will have annual physical tests to make sure you are within their requirements.

    >but have fallen out of it, all of it.
    discipline is important because here, you cannot just give up. Even being late by a minute to your designating assignment will cost you big. Your freedoms will be limited and if you are so used to being your own boss, be prepared to be pissed-off that now you have to answer to multiple bosses.

    >I believe I need encouragement and nobody I know can teach that so I'm thinking of joining or training for the military.
    I don't suggest you join. Only if you feel strongly patriotic about helping the USA achieve its worldly goals or helping innocents. I feel for me, that's the only real redeeming reason for joining. Otherwise, you can do the same exact things we do here on the civilian-side; but with less headache and frustration. Honestly, its not like what the movies will show you. I did it because I needed to get paid and survive on my own- all the other things are secondary to me.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t go Muhreens unless you are 100% a masochist with daddy issues.

    If you’re joining the military, do something that will set you up in life.

    Go in as an officer if you can, being enlisted is like being in a nightmarish cross between kindergarten and a frat house.

    Go for a job that can get you credentials and skills and experience.

    Don’t fall in love.

    Don’t get married.

    Don’t spend money.

    Don’t have kids.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Go in as an officer if you can,

      No. First, If you already have a degree, there is zero point in joining the military in the first place. Second, being an officer only pays off if you are going to make it a career. Your first contract as a zero is you being the bitch boy for the upper staff circle and working late in the HQ building. Lower enlisted is the way to go if you just want to cop some benefits and get the "experience" because anything below E6 has fuck all for responsibility. I was getting drunk at 1200 on Friday while the O1-O3's were grinding paperwork till 1900.

      >Don’t fall in love.

      >Don’t get married.

      >Don’t spend money.

      >Don’t have kids.

      That's all good advice though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those officers were making double what you make and double the benefits too so.. enjoy the beers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pay is roughly double, but they get the same GI bill and VA benefits that everyone gets. So if you sock money away at the same rate, you're looking at an extra $70k in savings at the end of your first contract. That's a good chunk of change for sure, still not worth it to me to babysit teenage E2's and get hazed by a bunch of senior NCO's. I know what zero's did all day, and it sucked. If I wanted to work 60 hours a week to chase paper I would've gotten a civilian trade job.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Their housing benefits are much larger than yours and count as additional pay.
            Also that sounds like you're describing a pog officer. pog enlisted chase paper too.
            It's all about what you choose to do

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >housing benefits are much larger
              BAH differential between an O3 and an E4/E5 is only a couple hundred bucks. its based more on locality than rank.

              >pog enlisted chase paper too.

              not really, no. anything below E6 and you really don't do shit. thats why E5 is considered the best rank among enlisted because you have enough seniority to cop BAH and not have people bother you with bullshit but you still aren't expected to have any kind of real responsibility. also, if money is really the selling point, why sign in the first place as an officer? you already have a degree and can be making way more money in a civilian corporation. like why get an engineering or management degree to go make sub $100k for 4 years?

              being an officer only really gets good when you hit senior O3 and are up for O4, but thats not until your second contract and by then your pot committed to being a lifer. not saying being an officer isn't a sweet gig, but if all you want to do is one-and-done, then enlisted is a better choice in my opinion.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                O3s make several more thousand a month more than an E4. Especially considering the yearly bonus for both.

                Also the best officer rank is Captain, being a major is nagger tier. Being a major is what you think being an O1 is, but of course you wouldn't know in reality would you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah in base pay, i was talking about BAH. the housing benefits discrepancy isn't that big.

                you keep talking about money so my other point still stands dude, why grind on student loans for a degree only to make a fraction of what you would make in the corporate world?

                doesn't make any fuckin' sense unless you want to make it a career. and if thats what you want, hats off to you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That guy doesn’t know what he’s fucking talking about.

                I joined Army as an E1, currently an E3. I made more as an E1 than most O2-03s. Want to know why? I joined married, and with children. AND I enlisted out of NYC.

                I was making more money than all unmarried Drill Sergeanrs (E6s) during basic training as an E1 thanks to BAH alone.

                DO NOT join Army as an officer for the fucking money. That is fucking retarded. If you want to do just one contract, just enlist. If you are unmarried, you’ll make shit pay. I’m talking $700 every two weeks. But 90% of everything is free. Housing, food. All you gotta worry about is your car & phone. If you are already married, ENLIST. You’ll make officer money, thanks to BAH. Have NO RESPONSIBILITY due to being a lower enlisted. It’s the freakin dream. Sure, days can suck ass - but that’s for everybody

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm U.S. Army active duty and just got to GA after being stationed in Korea for a year.
    Here's what I'll tell you. I joined in my early 20s as well. I was 23. Do it now because if you don't do it now you probably never will. You can still swing it fine as an early twenties but you do NOT want to be just joining in your late 20s or early 30s.
    Well, at least it's better off doing it now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is it like in Korea?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        For me, it was good. In fact I plan to go back after my contract expires. Next year I will be applying to university there and trying to get a student visa.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Would you rather run a Karoake bar or a net cafe?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My brother joined the airforce (not united states) as an engineer. They had issues getting his clearance so they initially only signed him 18 months, but he was supposed to sign the additional 2 1/2 years once clearance went through to make it 4 years total. When it finally went through he just didn't sign the additional time, so he only did 18 months and he's very happy with that decision.

    I don't think it's a bad idea, but just make sure not to sign for too much time. You want to go in for the discipline and the experience, not to spend your life there. After the first couple years you get diminishing returns.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is sort of a throw away post while I collect my thoughts but did want to say I wanted to join the Marines. Sort of the Ooga-Booga cooler-is-better petty thinking. I don't know if I certainly will be homeless but I was looking at the military option so I wouldn't have to worry about immediate housing, food, and healthcare problems, and then tuition when I go to college cuz I don't know how I would manage loans (and then I want to live overseas, etc...)
    Should I still avoid the military if I have a degree but the degree is useless (literally can't get a job with it)? Was deciding between avoiding the military, having an uncertain housing and food situation but then going to college immediately after establishing myself somewhere OR join military, don't worry about those things, and worry about deciding future later? My degree is useless but if I went to a European University it could be used to go to school immediately after service. Am 23 so don't know if I would be too old to pursue my professional career once my contract is over. Aren't first time enlistments only 4yrAD, 4yrIA contracts?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let me tell you man, the GI Bill is fucking sweet. All tuition paid PLUS a generous living stipend. Combine that with my monthly """"""disability""""""" gibs and the *grant/scholarship refunds, and I was netting $40k a year in my pocket to just go to school. I had a sweet little downtown apartment and would go out getting drunk and picking up girls every weekend. It was rad.

      *The GI bill pays your full tuition no matter what, so if you get a scholarship or grant then all that money gets refunded right back to you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is 28 too old to do what you did here?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you're going for a white collar STEM degree or something like that, no, not if you play your cards right.

          >SAVE MONEY
          >Document every ouchie or boo-boo in your medical record so you can get your VA gibs
          >knock out community/online college courses so you have enough GI bill to cover a masters

          do those things and you'll be 36 with a masters, a check for life that will cover most of a mortgage payment, some employable experience, and a nice money ball to get started.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm stuck with bottom of the barrel jobs, disability, and unemployment instead of the military. I'm lucky to even do well in college, because had I not I would have been fucked employment wise. I'm kind of disappointed in the mental health community not understanding that the military makes people have homicidal thoughts. Military gets all preachy about how it doesn't do that. Yeah? Well remove firearms and hand to hand combat training if you truly are against homicide. They got these target practices with people ponting a gun at you. The fuck they were expecting?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anonymous
    >Should I join the US military?
    Yeah if you can get on 100% disability it is.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    College on GI Bill is cush. Assuming you weren’t a complete idiot with your money and lifestyle choices while enlisted you will generally be way better off than most of your classmates. Veterans have better GPAs on average because of the additional discipline. You’ll also be that hot older guy who isn’t living on ramen noodles, and has wild stories for days. Not to mention all the military and veteran programs meant to plug you straight into a decent job when you graduate.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Military is ok, but there's an ever-increasing sentiment that it has become pozzed and will continue down that path. If that's important to you but you still want to join then def look at the marines.
    If you want more in depth discussions about this go to /k/ for their military enlistment general threads, they cover a lot more specific questions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it has become pozzed

      It has. When I was in it was like Lord of the Flies with guns and too much funding. You could get away with all kinds of shit and wild the fuck out. Can’t even give a motherfucker a conex box counseling anymore.

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