What are the pros and cons of something like a Yukon vs a Pacifica? Pacifica was the best minivan to drive and most luxury oriented and spacious. Sienna felt like a cramped shitbox and the Odyssey has weird transmission issues. So I'd probably go with the Pacifica if I went minivan.
The main thing that I don't like about minivans is the low ground clearance and only occasional AWD offerings.
Wrong board for those types of car
Dilate
Tell me you're a bitter khhv incel without telling me
those minivans have more than enough ground clearance for any task you'd want to use a people hauler for, and awd is a meme, if you have winters awd won't help if your tires are shit.
minivans are way more practical. you don't appreciate their interior space and low loading floor until you switch to a suv.
also better fuel efficiency.
the only bad thing about minivans is that they dry pussies out, but if you need a fancy people mover you already have wife and kids so it doesn't matter.
>and awd is a meme, if you have winters awd won't help if your tires are shit.
its actually night and day in terms of getting stuck or not.
>and awd is a meme, if you have winters awd won't help if your tires are shit.
Man I live in NE Ohio. I have literally be snowed into my house before to the point where you couldn't even actually leave the house. This is complete and utter bullshit. AWD is amazing for winter.
body on frame if you need big tow capacity
Current Gen BOF GMs are IRS, really no different than the minivan except you can get better engine options.
Go with the Yukon
>bigger interior
>body in frame
>better resale value
>not Stellantis product
>4WD instead of asymmetrical AWD
Better resale value because it’s double the price. And the Yukon interior is smaller.
>Sienna felt like a cramped shitbox
At this point I don't even get what you guys call cramped. Are your children 8' tall and 4' wide?
>Are your children 8' tall and 4' wide?
Probably 200kg each one
Just 4’ wide, short, and brown.
I love my 15 sierra, but be aware there are some transmission issues. You'll see videos on youtube about 100k chevys and gmc with dead transmissions.
My transmission the 6L80, is known for a oring being the clutch basket that leaks and cause rough as hell up shifts. I have to be careful when I want to floor it from the get because I have had the entire driveline freeze because the transmission didnt want to shift up.
2008 Yukon Denali here, I am having a 2-3 shift issue where it will hesitate/slip. 224k on the trans. Did a fluid swap about 11k miles ago. I think I might have to buy a new trans soon.
I would recommend you to test drive a Mazda CX-9.
Really the only questions that need to be asked are
>do you need to tow anything beyond a small trailer?
>do you care about pay $80k instead of $40k for your family vehicle?
>do you need to fit the vehicle in your garage?
If you occasionally need to tow and you’re well off, get a Suburban. Also note that the Suburban won’t fit in a normal garage.
If you don’t tow and don’t have $80k to blow on a family hauler, get a Pacifica AWD
The only SUV that has space comparable to a Minivan is the Suburban / Yukon XL. If you can afford it, go for it, but everything else is a big size sacrifice.
Suburban 144
Odyssey 158
Minivans aren't gay. I need one because I cream pied my wife with my high sperm count too frequently. What have you done?
You'll never see the ridgelines talked about but they got a facelift in 2021 and they are a body on frame UTE/crossover/midsize. The chasis should be based on the Odyssey along with how the interior feels but the brunt of it takes on the Pilot's parts and then finally they do reinforce it further and the AWD system is pretty solid for handling terrains versus actual 4x4 scaling.
I know you may not want a bed but Honda did really nerd out the ergonomics on it, you don't need a cover if you don't want since its really the crossover design that could still attract people that didn't want a truck in the first place.
But the appeal of their bed is this massive storage trunk.
If you need to haul more than 4 people around though obviously disregard
>ridgelines talked about but they got a facelift in 2021 and they are a body on frame
No they’re not
Yep went dummy and flipped it. Never mind op
For a second there, I got really excited because I thought you were talking about a body on frame mini-van. Ugh, maybe someday..
Get the Sienna if you want something reliable
You listed your constraints, but not enough of them to get a real answer.
If you are buying new and have the cash in hand? Yukon. Pacifica is not well built.
If you are buying used? Pacifica, the price is dropped heavily, and chances are someone has put the work into fixing the early milage problems, leaving you with an impeding head gasket issue around 60-80k miles, and rear wheel bearings to do.
Real world answer? If you need space, ground clearance, towing capacity, and simple utility, get a ford transit AWD. After owning a minivan and SUV, both are just half ass compromises towards a commercial vehicle's capability. Modern cars are about selling indians wooden beads for gold. You are the Indian. Don't be dazzled by bullshit amenities you can pay to add in as you want on the aftermarket, for significantly cheaper.
The tiny bump in gas cost, and cost of commercial tiers VASTLY outweighs having to ever rent a truck, or any other bullshit.
Buy a station wagon.