Should we even be using computers when more and more vulnerabilities are being found?
Why should I trust this device with my private information, like my online banking password? There must be exploits we don't know about, which could install a keylogger and steal all my passwords. Maybe it's just not worth it?
>https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/09/with-0-days-hitting-chrome-ios-and-dozens-more-this-month-is-no-software-safe/
i think you should definitely not be using computers, no
Seriously though, they may well discover exploits, but there are likely exploits that are only known to criminals at the moment, and not to tech companies yet.
The WannaCry ransomware used an exploit that had been known to the NSA for years before the attack. The NSA could have (and perhaps should have) informed Microsoft about the bug, but they didn't, because the NSA wanted to use it for their own spying purposes, lol.
So why should I trust computers when flaws definitely exist? Maybe I should do all my banking at a physical bank instead?
>is no software safe?
Yes.
>Maybe I should do all my banking at a physical bank instead?
I unironically do not use my computer for banking. Mostly because I don't do much banking, I just receive money every week, and then I spend it with my card. I don't know what you would actually need a computer for in that process.
Likely both.
I can understand chrome (not because of the browser but because retards use electron everywhere), but who the fuck use windows in 2023?
>who the fuck use windows in 2023
Approximately 69.27% of the desktop market, followed by OS X at 20.19%, unknown at 4.02%, Chrome OS at 3.32%, then Linux at 3.19%, and FreeBSD at 0.01%.
when will you linux cultists finally shut up? linux sucks balls on an atomic level, it is a failure on an astronomical level. Linux had all the chances to do a usable, not broken, not incompatible, not retarded OS. all it had to do was make an easy to use mirror copy of Windows with all the privacy bonuses. but all it achieved was the creation of a seething, neckbeard mouthbreather cult of loud minions with a broken nervous system.
millions, billions would have installed Linux but Linux is pure dogshit for masochists and eternal virgins and not an OS
>millions, billions would have installed Linux but Linux is pure dogshit
Billions do use Linux. Android is Linux. And many of the world's websites run on Linux.
Billions of devices run Java
billions of devices also fail miserably and idiotically
Yeah, because employed people prefer java over M$'s half-assed knock-off.
you don't have a job, sir
Java has also been successful
Okay sure, it's practically impossible to be sure there's no vulnerabilities, but it just sucks to think that there's always a possibility that someone could hack into my online banking, somehow. The risk might be small but probably still exists.
This is actually a reason why I'm attracted to Windows and Chrome. Because if you use both of those, with all updates installed, and your money is STILL stolen, then I reckon the chances of you getting compensation are higher than if you're using completely free open source stuff, like a community-developed Linux distro.
Especially if you have a genuine Windows licence for your computer, you can say "I've paid for this software, I expect it to work without me losing money". And Microsoft needs to appear reliable to keep making money, so maybe they'll compensate you. But if you use some community-made Linux distro they'll just say "lol this isn't our problem, this distro is free, there's no warranty, we make this in our spare time, we don't care if you've been hacked, sucks to be you".
>you getting compensation
lol
lmao even
It's possible. If a number of people lost some money from their online banking accounts, and they were following all the recommended best practices (latest Windows updates, updated Chrome, etc.) then someone, whether it's Microsoft or your bank, might take steps to compensate you in some way. If they don't then people would lose trust in their products and they'd lose money.
But if you use something like Linux, or an esoteric web browser that nobody uses, then your bank might just say "your fault for using software we don't officially support", and your Linux distro might say "you get this software for free, it comes with no warranty, we make no promises regarding the security of this software, it's not our problem".
People literally died over forced win10 updates, when rescuers were unable to help in time because their servers went down. No refunds or compensations.
When?
More people use windows.
Desktops use Windows, smart fridges use linux and java
Windows is literally the least popular of major OS.
Android isn’t a major OS, phone poster.
>mint
linux keeps winning
>There must be exploits we don't know about
there are hundreds of exploits currently living in even the most secured, patched out build of linux, you see some random article spotlighting one out of dozens and freak out about knowing it.
It's something I've been thinking about for a while, and these recent vulnerabilities just confirm what I was thinking.
But even if you write your own OS from scratch, you can't be certain it has no vulnerabilities.
>you can't be certain it has no vulnerabilities
that's not how software engineering works. The goal is not to be "certain" for "0 vulnerabilities", rather something that is better than previous, less holes than before. Now tenacity on the real problem, that is, build a system and make sure it doesn't have known security problems, and so the problems are as novel as possible (not easy to get into).
>what is fuzzing
>what is formal verification
>what are SAT solvers
>what are unit tests
>what is defensive approach to programming
>what is bug bounty program with proper rewards
>what are type safe languages
>what are 3rd party security audits (trailofbits for example)
kill yourself
>what are language server directives
>what are pre-compilation checks
>what are strict programming rules
>what are static code analyzers
>what are containers
its funny how no matter the technology and what it can do, retards like you always refuse to blame programmers for their 115 IQ intelligence, again, kill yourself
security by obscurity
I think that only takes you so far though. E.g. say that there's a big wealthy house near the centre of a city. Everyone knows it, but it has good security.
Then say there's a small house on the outskirts of town, not an area where many people visit, but it has its front door left wide open for days.
The latter house still probably has a higher chance of being burgled, despite its obscurity, because its security is much worse.
Terry Davis is a disciple of jesus because his programs were a work of effort of course, but he preached writing your own environments to free yourself of the claws of homosexual OSes (which all of them are, if I can't fucking run a game on them)
I have 2FA
Use rust
Just like with everything in life, control where you put yourself, what you share and have safety checks. But if you must venture into the unknown, be prepared to shoulder whatever comes your way.
Monitor everything.
No, go live in the forest
Vulnerabilities have been routinely found since the early days of computer adoption.
It's nothing new, and has arguably gotten better over time as better security practices are followed.
Just don't do stupid shit. If you don't have a target on your back, it's very unlikely you'll be affected. Would be a waste of a valuable exploit.
Is that because they're becoming more common or is it because detection of them has improved?
it's always a nothingburger. who's getting hacked? people get hacked by downloading viruses files and phishing
literally not my problem
t. posted from my firefox on ganooh plus loonix
Apparently it's a problem with libwebp, and I'm pretty sure Firefox shows WebPs, so I would assume they've had to patch this as well
it definitely is your problem and you need to update firefox
yeah i'm sure the recent media hype of 0-days and the amount amassed this year alone is pure coincidence and they're not hyping the masses up for a huge cyber hack psyop meant to crack down even further on our freedoms
i'm sure we're all going to be hacked in ((2 more weeks)).
https://www.weforum.org/videos/a-cyber-attack-with-covid-like-characteristics
>it's a webp vulnerability
and some of you fuckers are still asking for webp support
Yeah I was thinking that, good thing LULZ doesn't support WebP because some cunt would definitely upload a malicious image here
Although LULZ does modify images that are uploaded, like stripping EXIF, so maybe it wouldn't affect users anyway, I dunno
Nothing is safe from 1000's of exploits. Internet security is like protecting a house in da hood during an economical collapse. You can lock your doors and get small/bulletproof windows, but robbers will still get in. It just depends on how much of a target you are. Automated attacks even with AI will only go so far, but a skilled and motivated hacker can do more.