Is anyone else genuinely scared for the future of automotive enthusiasm? Gonna be bit of a blogpost but nothing makes me forget about the world like driving does. The sounds, the sights, the adrenaline rush of pushing yourself to do better, the friends I've made racing.
I fear that the further we fall down the green-washing all consuming black hole that is the modern world ill someday no longer be able to experience this anymore. Cars are getting more expensive, less driver oriented and the few makes that do continue to manufacture sports cars are going further and further up-market and outside the realm of affordability for your average worker and with some countries instituting ICE bans (unless its a hypercar that drives you to your private jet like they do in the UK) I fear that my country of Australia is next.
I dunno bros, I have very few things I enjoy in this world and this is by far the one that makes me feel most alive.
>Is anyone else genuinely scared for the future of automotive enthusiasm?
No. Car "enthusiasts" are the bottom of the barrel of hobbies. Not very many of them can play a musical instrument, which says a lot.
>this is by far the one that makes me feel most alive.
No other hobbies or interests? Build a model car collection, it's cheaper and more rewarding that getting fucked by the cost of vehicle ownership.
I have other hobbies, I spar, play vidya, and already build warhammer models but none of them really make me feel ALIVE like racing down a mountain pass does
Vidya isn't a hobby
Literally go racing with your car. Autocross, drag, whatever. Only one stopping you us yourself
one thing's for sure i don't play the skin flute
lmao zoomers really don't know how much, much worse things can get. Just wait for the mandatory 55mph highway speed limits
it's already on the way out, and honestly i dont care since i still get to enjoy it. the avg car guy is a total pleb who modifies cars and makes them objectively worse and talks at you about 70000 pointless 3m tape aesthetic mods and swaps that will never happen. I know racing is 10 steps downwind of this but most people aren't cut out for it. the tards should just drive a v6 camry and be happy
Cars are going to get much cheaper, because of EVs.
>EVs cheap
That's bullshit and you know it.
For most "regular" people EVs are a money drain. They cost like 7 grand more than regular cars and you need a garage with charger. That's assuming you buy a new one.
It's even worse if you are a poorfag and decide to buy a used car. Your questionable 400 miles of driving of the "long range" model is reduced to 320 due to battery degradation and if you want to drive in winter, you can expect to make a break at a 50 minutes "fast recharge" station every 250 miles.
EVs have their niches (taxi, amazon, etc) , but for a all purpose vehicle it's just inadequate.
Plot a chart spanning the last decade of all your points. Range has gone up, price has gone down, battery longevity has increased, charging speeds have sped up. You think in 2023 all those values are going to flatline suddenly? After the investment rate has skyrocketed recently? Please.
Also, your numbers that you pull out of your ass are wrong. In the real world, nobody drives 8 hours with no breaks. 200 or 300 miles is about 3-5 hours of continuous driving. Nobody drives that long in any vehicle without any sort of break.
A bus might be unironically better for you if you believe what you say. Because your driving times are a complete asspull, unless you go 60mph max on the freeway.
I just look what car manufacturers are writing on their websites and draw my conclusions from it.
I take the Peugot 208 for an example because it's one if the few compact EVs and I am in the market for one.
The 208 cost between 26 to 30 thousand euro for the gasoline versions. The EV version is over 40 grand has 220 miles of range and a 8 year / 100k miles guarantee to maintain at least 70% of it's capacity.
I do 300 miles trips at least monthly for work or vacation and my family lives 700 miles away, which I visit at least twice a year. I can do this trip in a single day, this includes a half hour lunch break and 3 to 4 piss breaks of 10 minutes.
Yeah, either you're ESL or really bad at seeing obvious trends. I said "going to", future tense. EVs are simpler machines, and the only reason they aren't cheap is because we aren't mass producing them as much as ICEVs.
Your 300 mile trips are easy, I can do that in the lowest range tesla today. Just take a 15 minute stop to fill up partway. Oh no, 10 extra minutes on a 2-3 hour trip with TODAYs technology. Oh the humanity!
Same with your 700 mile trips. 5-15% extra time to what you currently do with today's technology, twice a year. I did twice that recently with an electric vehicle, so either your claims of it taking too long are bs, or you're a really huge baby compared to me.
> the tech will fix everything
Even with a yearly improvement of lets say 4% it will take two decades before EVs are remotely usable for anyone making less than 6 figures. This comes with the assumption that we actually have enugh lithium in the eart to produce EVs on the large scale.
Also I was asking for a compact, and you told me to get a luxobarge. Can't park a tesla that easily in the city.
Now hold on just a minute... Are you saying that old thing good and new thing... bad? Wow I need a minute to process this. OP you might be on to something here. You're like the freaking Socrates of the 21st century, my guy is out here coming up with ideas no one else ever thought of before
>Is anyone else genuinely scared for the future of automotive enthusiasm?
No. I used to think like you but I now think it's cringe to want the car industry to stagnate just so you can eternally go vroom vroom in your "driver focused" manual shitbox. You can still do that in the future. Hell you can probably 3D print a brand new neessan skyline or toyota sooopra in your garage and install some 3D printed aftermarket parts and anime stickers on it. Then you can drive around in it while complaining that the youngsters zooming around in their aerospace grade electrified consumer hypercars don't understand real car culture.
i am not worried about electric cars. i hate modern cars as a whole because they have too much technology and have a poor connection to the road. I would buy a 2000 pound electric car with no technology in it if they sold them, but they never will.
>Is anyone else genuinely scared for the future of automotive enthusiasm?
Not really. The only way I really enjoy cars is to hoon them and even a boring car handles it just fine.
toyota sucks and is incapable of being original
Based on the endless SUV and Tesla threads and the seething poorfags who spam McDonald's on Porsches, 86s etc it's already dead