Salvation

Is salvation achieved through faith alone, or does it include works?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Psalm 50:
    > “Consider this, you who forget God, or I will tear you to pieces, with no one to rescue you:
    >23 Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me, and to the blameless I will show my salvation.”

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all it takes is a bit of luck

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    inb4 worker

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *Ahem*

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.." -John 3:16

    "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." -John 3:36

    "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." -John 6:40

    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life." -John 6:47

    "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" -John 11:25-26

    "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, And whose sins are covered." -Romans 4:5-7

    "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." -Romans 5:1

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." -Romans 6:23

    "And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
    -Acts 16:30-31

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." -Ephesians 2:8-9

    "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." -Galatians 2:16

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began." -2 Timothy 1:9

      "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." -Titus 3:5-7

      "As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us." -Psalm 103:12

      "If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand? But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared." -Psalm 130:3-4

      "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." -John 1:12-13

      "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." -John 5:24

      "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." -John 20:31

      "Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls." -1 Peter 1:9

      "For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." -Philippians 3:3

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
      Sirs how do I get redeemd?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok now prove any of that using the Old Testament.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Worker

    Clearest example in Scripture. You go to heaven even if you don't work. Faith is what saves, because that is how we receive Christ's righteousness:
    >But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
    Romans 4:5

    So, not of works, or it wouldn't be grace:
    >And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
    Romans 11:6

    So, not by works, but by faith in Christ. In fact, it goes on to say that no one will be justified by works:
    >Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
    Galatians 2:16

    Again, not of works:
    >8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    Ephesians 2:8-9

    Not by our works, again:
    >Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    Titus 3:5

    Not of the law of works:
    >Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
    Romans 3:27

    Etcetera etcetera... I could go on and on, but you get the point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Were the sheep in Matthew 25:31–46 saved by their faith or works?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Were the sheep in Matthew 25:31–46 saved by their faith or works?

      Also this,

      Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested him, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"
      He said to him, "What is written in the law? How do you read it?"
      He answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself."
      He said to him, "You have answered correctly. Do this, and you will live."

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does it mean to be saved?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Worker
    >hates works

    What did he mean by this?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sola gratia, sola scriptura, sola fide, solus christus
    Only by HIS grace, by faith in Jesus and the rules and precedent in the bible. That is the Lutheran view, at least.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no "salvation." Heaven was made up by scared little shaved apes who can't accept their own mortality.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isaiah 6:5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

    6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7 With it he touched my mouth and said, “See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for.”

    If the blood of Jesus is the only way to find forgiveness of Sin then how did God forgive Isaiah's sin using a coal?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is not the only way. It is the way the original sin gets absolved from all. God can of course forgive single people.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It is the way the original sin gets absolved from all
        I thought that was baptism

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And how did Elijah's original sin get forgiven for him to be taken to heaven alive without paying the price of sin which is death?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to tell. Do you know anyone saved?

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