Russians have so much land but they don't want to develop it. Why don't they sell it to China or America?
Russians have so much land but they don't want to develop it. Why don't they sell it to China or America?
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>Today, only 38 million people live in Siberia—2 million fewer than 20 years ago, according to Russia's Institute of Demography—even though the region constitutes up to 77 percent of the nation's landmass.
Wtf 37m live in canada
Siberia has more people than canada?
It is unreal how empty Canada is outside of the St. Lawrence corridor, like almost half the people in Canada live there
But why the houses are so expensive? you guys had the population of Mexico City in the second largest country of the planet and still a house in Mexico City is cheaper that one in Canada
there goverment hates them and wont let them build houses inda woods.
Extremely high amount of taxes and regulations.
(+ adding millions of gibs receiving immigrants to an already creaky infrastructure does no one any favors)
37 million is very empty for a place that's twice the size of Europe.
I like it that way
>37 million is very empty for a place that's twice the size of Europe.
What are you talking about?
Alaska has a population of 740k.
Most Canadians (40 mil) live withing an hour from US border.
Commies tried that, multiple times, look where it got them.
They packed Siberia full of resettled people, and without an economy to support them.
Khabarovsk had populatiuon of 20 000 in 1920, 242 000 in 1941, 363 000 in 1962, 553 000 in 1982.
>Alaska has a population of 740k.
>Most Canadians (40 mil) live withing an hour from US border.
These places are not declining in population like Russia.
Alaska only until recently always had an increasing population.
>Commies tried that, multiple times, look where it got them.
>Siberia has shrunk by 2 million over 20 years
That’s nothing you should’ve looked at the demographics during the 90s entire towns in the Arctic circle died a few towns like Dikson have a tiny population of stubborn old people that refuse to leave
Murmansk was a city of a couple million in the 80s and it shrunk significantly
Russia in the 90s and early 2000s tore up rail lines, turned off gas pipelines to towns in the far north and even ended maintenance on the wharves and ports but now that the government has turned around and said they want to redevelop the far northern cities and get people to move there due to the Arctic sea lanes will be open all year long which will create the quickest maritime journey between China and Europe
I’m a bit lazy to find sources but there are portable nuclear power plants in the far north as Russia is developing the mining and oil refineries within the Arctic circle it’s all pretty interesting
>only 38 million people
Umm, that's a lot. More than most European countries.
The truth of it is that Russia's population has been fairly stable the last 30 years and isn't so bad demographically. Ironically Russians dying of alcoholism in their 60s frees up the social safety net.
Siberia has a population of 33.77 million according to Google you're both wrong
So she has an instagram?
Social media, the root cause as usual
There is a massive amount of camgirls from siberia, i used to jack off to that shit when i had a coombrain disease and they did freaky shit for literal pennies
Theres probably not much else to do in siberia. Same reason much of russias aid epidemic is in siberia I guess.
When the tundra thaws the world ends this is what everything on this entire planet for the last 40 years has been about the realization the tundra will that and two hundred trillion tons of methane is released into the atmosphere it's the end of human life
So just don't fart asshole then we won't choke to death on your methane bomb
that soil was thawed at some point and we were fine
The world didn't end the last hundred times it was thawed, it won't this time either.
she should emigrate onto my dick
>is named kill mother
>mother is still alive
Chinese BVLLS will congquer Siberian from weak r*ssian BOIS and inseminate ALL russian girls
>USING DRIED RUSSIAN TIGER PENIS POWDER TO MAKE TINY CHINESE PENIS HARD LIKE DIAMOND!
Still 10,000 more years of our globes current warming cycle, that land will make them bank as Siberia becomes more and more hospitable. Same with all that land Canadians have, which is why we’ll take it when the time comes, but not yet.
has it's hands full at the moment
strange way to spell "more naggers"
They don’t have the capability to develop it.
China has shown it's capable of developing Manchuria while America has developed Alaska to 1st world status.
nah most people in china moved south, every one wants to be in the warm spots.
Here's another example. You can just tell how much the Chinese side is developed compared to the Russian side.
nah it just means despite a few pretty environmentally devastated areas, Russia on average is still green, and is probably better positioned on carbon emissions than just about anywhere else.
Develop it into what? It's not suited to agriculture.
If that's true then why is the Chinese side filled with farms?
Those are mostly small-scale family farms that aren't very valuable economically. That's why northern China is rapidly depopulating.
It's not just Manchuria, it's happening throughout all of China. It's due to the one chine policy and modernization. China will still have hundreds of millions of people in 2100. Russia is a different story.
True yes, but it's the northern places in particular. In both Russia and China people are moving to warmer coastal areas and the metropoles. No one wants to be a subsistence farmer in some frozen steppe.
There’s economies of scale with farms, that’s why farmer cooperatives exist, pooling of resources etc, you’d think the Chinese could manage collective farming but I guess not.
In the longer run though you would probably have to force people at gunpoint to leep living there. Most simply prefer the cities.
Probably, though you could just filter out the homosexuals by letting them leave to the city, eventually you’d be left with comfy rural folk only, like the Hutterites that live in similar areas of the US and Canada and also farm collectively.
>build shoddy subway through shoddy apartment building
>dont even have central air
I know I'm not the norm but I prefer rural living, I was raised on an acreage and the noise and constant happenings in the city just feels unsettling.
It must drive the Chinese nuts to see all that usable empty space not getting worked. I seem to recall Russia doing a program where they brought in chinese or North Koreans to cut down timber.
china has heaps of empty space, but no one wants to live there farmers are super poor, every one wants city work and city life.
Anon, the majority of China is empty and undeveloped. What would they need Siberia for? They already produce most of the world vegetables and fruit locally.
Siberia is so dogshit even China don't want it.
That's why the Vatniks want Ukraine even tho they already have a vast land. Livable area is Russia is probably around double that of Ukraine.
Because they already cut down the timber which Russia with its large forests sells to them from their side.
Those farms are heavily subsidized.
>In June 2021, MARA provided an additional CNY 20 billion (USD 3.2 billion) subsidy to grain farmers in order to offset increasing input costs. The subsidy was incorporated into the programme of Agricultural Production Development (paid per unit of land). At least 25% of the subsidy would be provided by provincial governments; in selected provinces in the centre, western and north-eastern regions, at least 45% of the subsidy would be provided by provincial governments (Ministry of Agriculture, 2021). In March 2022, this policy was extended for another year and thus an additional CNY 20 billion (USD 3.2 billion) subsidy will be allocated in 2022 to grain farmers in order to offset continued rising input costs.
>paid per unit of land
Interesting. Probably very primitive farms which would explain the density.
Why can't Russia do this?
Look, China has 10x population of Russia, its minor populated regions will have 10x the population of Russias minor populated regions.
Here, some math for you, Russian Far East, so east if Siberia and the part bordering China and Pacific has a pop of 8.3 million as of 2010. Russias overall pop is 145 million.
That's 5.7% of its pop there.
Chinas northeast territory (pic rel) has a pop of 110 million out of a pop of 1.5 billion
That's 7.3% of its pop there.
Get it now? You just dont invest that much pop into such far flung areas, they mostly go into your metropole regions.
Of course I forgot the fucking image
>Develop it into what?
Infrastructure, resource extraction, buildings, farms, etc
Right now this place is not being used to its potential
There's 8 months of winter, try to farm retard
These Chinese farms experience the same climate as the Russian side of the border and they are still capable of farming
Then it's retarded attempts. USSR already tried to make farms in this frozen shithole and failed
How is it retarded attempts? Heilongjiang is one of the coldest regions in China while also producing the most food.
sibera is further west,
Siberia is everything past the Ural mountains
ahahaha thats like saying every where in west of the applicahians is California.
Siberia is the penis shaped state thats jizzing into the arctic.
Weather there is actually pretty moderate because of proximity to the sea, especially is parts of the province that actually grow crops.HHVYRH
It's similar to the Russian side of the border. The question is why one side is able to develop the land while the other is barren and undeveloped.
>Russia is drunk and poor and cannot afford to develop itself
Is that what you wanted to hear?
It's not just that specific part, it's all of Siberia
Have you considered that maybe Russia just isn't interested in developing that specific spot of land?
Do you not know what to do with a woman either?
Russia would need a population of at least 2 billion people to fully realize the potential of their land.
Currently they have as many people as Japan, and considering how even Japan has plenty of empty space(Tokyo naggers shut up), I can only imagine how deserted Russia is.
imagine being a model and knowing one day u will look like ur mom. lmfao.
Wildlife deserves spaces, humans don’t need to occupy every square inch of the earth.
We are buyers of any tartar women and their land…will fit right in first nations
Americans are homosexuals who cry when it hits -3 yeah they're going to go to places where its -60 with 4 hours of sunlight lmao
>BLACKROCK WILL BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kill yourself, Americunt
When will Russia give back Chinese rightful clay of Northern Manchuria?
It's important for China and Russia to remain allies for the foreseeable future, so I doubt this will happen. China already has enough disputes with its other neighbors.
You mean Chinese puppet. The Russian government will collapse after the war one way or another. Russia will assert its influence "for the sake of global stability". A Chinese puppet will be put into the presidency. Within a decade Northern Manchuria will be given back to China.
China can't afford that risk. If Russia collapses then there's a high chance a Western puppet is placed in power, then military bases would be put on China's northern border.
I didn't say Russian collapse. I said Russian government collapse. China will put their puppet in charge. Russia is fucking done as a nation for this century.
We should offer Siberia to China if they agree to flip sides
China is the other side. If anything Russia could be flipped.
>China could surely be our ally
Russia does not have to be an enemy. Just give them a seat at the table and make them feel like they are still a real player. The Chinaman wants to dominate all. He cannot be an ally.
China is as untrustworthy as the US is, you'd be making a modern day Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
Im not even shitting you, all the thing from those fairy tales and legends? That shit still lives, and its in areas like Canada and Sibera. You can find fucking librarys worth of encounters in these regions especially out in the woods. Werewolves, skin walkers, big foots, various fae, all that shit, its out in those woods. Check out the Lights in Siberia
Legitimately, this. You get 'em occasionally around here, too, at least in rural areas. The normies think you're joking or crazy, but those cows didn't mutilate themselves.
Why does land need to be developed? Why cant it just to be nature if the peoplle have enough food already? Its a better choice to leave the land empty for future generations of Russians than mindlessly spreading out and building empty hive cities.
>Its a better choice to leave the land empty for future generations of Russians
They have enough land to set aside as massive nature reserves and still develop the rest.
Her parents missed a good chance to name her Marusya
China is a major exporter of food
They are doing something right
Russia should just become a Dutch colony.
Russia doesn't need people all over Siberia just to "claim" it. They should probably try and increase Vladivostok's population though. Maybe the area should have like 10 Million people. There's lots of economic viability there with other major Asian powers in the area. Plus it can help diversify from Europe.
Not only they have a fuckton of land but they want to take more so they can spread more of the same misery in which their own live
Anything spooky in Siberia?
Probably because they don't want a bunch of naggers running all over like we have in the USA.
they should do what america did manifest destiny free land settlement.
you know lots of people would be down for that shit.
Oh fuck. Now have border with USAUSAUSA.
They won’t make that mistake again
They use their land. It's called a "fuck off buffer"
Stump arm, jeezus…model my ass.
That land belongs to the Dyatlov Pass Anomaly and can't be developed.
No way. It's wonderful to know that the largest country in the world preserves Family and whiteness. Go ahead and post people of color from Russia I don't care. We all know rushes a lot more white than Europe or America