rolfe

>look up rolfes' ffs results because i hear he's supposedly top notch
>see fricking this
they probably spent tens of thousands and barely look any different, wtf?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the first one does look more fem
    the second one is ngmi

  2. 10 months ago
    alcoholiday

    the first is a subtle yet v significant chance imo but wtf actually took place in the second???

  3. 10 months ago
    Kylie

    both are botched and the second didn't even get laser lmao

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    okay why that b***h get ffs before laser ??

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe I'm tripping but I think this is a bit misleading. If you have good results and pass better why would you ever give permission to permanently leave your face associated with a surgeon?
    If all of the FFS results I knew where from what they publish I'd be so blackpilled on FFS, but I've seen a lot of results both here and on reddit, where people post and then delete or post in niche communities or threads. I'd do the same and never give permission and be super private about it, especially if it was good.
    Idk why hons give permission tho, but they usually don't make the brightet choices anyway lmao (second picrel is a great example)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean if you had bad results why would they even want to showcase you? it doesn't help them at all and it costs them a few hundred dollars.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah anonette, but you know that a lot of us have very high standards. Most hons get visible changes if you look at their before and afters, they just don't pass. Which is not enough for a lot of us. And even if we do, we're usually super BDD about it and still have problems and dissatisfaction. I think most late transitioning hons end up pretty happy about their results.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lis went there, went from a cute twink to a resting b***hface stacy

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    rolfes does good and safe work. the sad reality is that some people can't get there even with ffs. if you are a severe case and you want your surgeon to go aggressive you will have to go outside the US

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because people only have one procedure done

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yall have eay too high expectations for ffs and need to treat your bdd first. You will never get a good result or the chances you do are slim to none. Ffs is demasculinization, not feminization. It brings you to a more andro or fem leaning state. It will not make you feminine. Any doctor who claims they can do that are risky butchers that may fricking kill you or maim you. If youd rather have a pretty face thats half numb over a andro face with full feeling you have major fricking bdd and need major therapy before getting on the table.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just seems like that you should get some noticeable improvement if you’re pouring tens of thousands of dollars into it, i guess.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lol. Do you understand how difficult it is to literally shape bone in a way that wont kill someone or maim them? Think about all the botched jobs with people who fricking died or cant feel half their face. Its chance and you really push your luck the more work and more drastic the changes. There is a firm limit to what can be done safely.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is pretty much always noticeable improvement assuming they actually do type iii and whatever else that is needed. It's just that people like you expect to look like an entirely different person

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          sure, if "entirely different person" means "not still a gigahon"

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >gigahon
            Basically a code word now for "i am a severely bdd teenager"

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah so true the people in picrel aren't still hopelessly masculine post-ffs they totally pass gurrrrrl!!!!

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            How old are you?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’m 21, and the Hons in picrel are still hons. You’re delusional if you think they’re even remotely passing or androgynous. They’re unmistakably hons.
            Are you a coping hon by any chance? Post your mug

    • 10 months ago
      normaIize not voicetraining

      +1

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Second had major eye changes. Probably includes blesph. But look their eyes are no longer hooded and much less “Hunter”

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This luckshit had an extremely good starting point, if , she probably had relatively minor procedures done.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          nevermind then, the changes were just more visible in side profile. makes me wonder if it's also the case for the 2 hons.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        why would you expect to be good looking after FFS if you were ugly before?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's not about good looking / ugly, it's about looking approximately like a woman. as to why, because it's the entire point of the surgery, to make someone with masculine face structure look feminine, and it's heralded as an important step.

  12. 10 months ago
    rei eri ai

    lol maybe the surgeon is just scamming the hons who nvr put in effort anywaysss

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rolfes is really really nice and a true ally. He wouldnt do that.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    second one looks like they're not even on hrt

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      HRT is pretty weak if you’re an oldshit but yeah he could be getting Hondosed

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        judging by the beard shadow I'd sooner assume they're speedrunning the transition and are like 2 months in
        but it doesn't help showcase the ffs cuz they just went from man to poonman

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This pretty much happened to me. I got FFS very early in transition, and still looked like a dude albeit a much younger one.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    he's a decent surgeon if you're a middle-classhit with anthem bcbs insurance. those B/A's are outdated, he will do a revision if you don't like your original results because he is conservative unless you specify what you want. they're better options out there if you're going the insurance route ie:tommy liu.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What if I'm going the cash route?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean if Rolfes has it figured out with BCBS wouldn't it just be cheaper to get BCBS and then go to him rather than paying full cash?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah my gf paid like 1000 for her surgury with rolfes, she got the works too.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah my gf paid like 1000 for her surgury with rolfes, she got the works too.
            Awesome! What all did she have to do to get the insurance to cover it? Like letters?
            How long did that process take?

            BCBS is like $400 a month for me if I switch to it during open enrollment. So for a year of it would be about $5000. Still way cheaper than out of pocket FFS but if it's difficult to get them to cover it then idk

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can deal with looking at great jaw work after being mutilated by Dr bard (rest in pieces butthole) my fricking chin got cutted and whole lower face is now shaggy, lower lip disappeared

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Giwtwm

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I went to Rolfes and I went from permanent unpassing mannish monstrosity to ugly passable woman. I'm pretty satisfied with my results because I had low expectations to begin with. If you want to end up a gigastacy it's probably not gonna happen. I had at least an entire inch of jawbone shaved clean off my jaw and almost an entire inch of brow ridge completely erased. My upper lip was basically alpha male gorilla tier and now it's passably androgynous. I just don't really post pictures of my face.

  16. 10 months ago
    dannie

    Go to keojampa

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >from his site
      >We believe in the utmost privacy for our transgender patients and do NOT publish identifying patient pictures online. Before and after photos can be viewed during the in-office consultation only.
      This is really sus to me. is there anyplace online where i can view unofficial results or something? i don't buy that he's hiding stuff out of concern for patients exclusively.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        are you moronic
        if you want to see real results you go to reddit or realself or something where they're uploaded by patients

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >realself

          Do not trust this site. Surgeons can pay to have reviews/photos removed.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            There was a review I saw for DB saying he’s a hack and it showed bad pictures so I actually trust that site although patients like to take photos that make themselves look better l.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao imagine paying like 100k and still ending up a hon
            was her starting point ogre level or what

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They do look more fem, just not particularly attractive. I think you guys get the two mixed up a lot. Ideally you want both imo but maybe these two people didn’t want to change too much?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither of these people look like they are on hrt, hair is a huge factor in passing, so is shaving, skincare, ect

    Both of these people are very ugly and quite masculine before hand anyone, it can't work miracles. This seems to be a problem with older trans women

    Take good care of your skin, grow your hair out, get laser and shave, most of us are young and on hrt so our ffs results will almost definitely be better and probably make us pass/nearly pass

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