>respected by marks smarks and anti-smarks

>respected by marks smarks and anti-smarks
how does he do it?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's the strength of choppa style

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      any other example?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        eddie kingston

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah, he gets plenty hate. I thought about it and the only other guys I can think of are austin and tanahashi.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            don’t ever fucking ‘nah’ me again bro or i swear i’ll open you up hardway bro ong

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Neither of those are choppa though, Austin is the closest in being a brawler, and he's great at it don't get me wrong but he doesn't wrestle choppa.
            Tanahashi also isn't even close to choppa, he's influenced more by old school Japanese and Lucha shit, even though he's a fan of Kobashi as well, he never really took any of that style.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know they arent choppa, I was just thinking guys who mostly get respect, macho man is in that too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ah that makes sense
                I was just saying if you embrace choppa it could help you, though that's only if you refuse to do charisma+workrate route, only reason you should do that is if there's a language barrier. Even with charisma+workrate one side could shit on you for petty reasons.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >even though he's a fan of Kobashi as well, he never really took any of that style
              Based ACE not being a cosplay wrestler. Fattie Kingston should learn a thing or two.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, nothing wrong with taking influence, I just find the jokes of Eddie being a giant homosexual for King's Road caused Ishii to avoid him backstage and find some titty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are absolutely correct

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          THE NUT I STRIVE FOR PAHDNA

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stan Hansen, Terry Gordy, Vader

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RIC FLAIR?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does anyone dislike Ishii?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ishii is a good one, i know some sizequeens that still love him even though hes way smaller than youd think.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lowlife anti smarks dislike him only because hes liked by smarks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >anti smarks
            you mean normal people?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My dad tried to when he waddled out vs Eddie on the AEW pre show but after seeing him in action he got over and now my dad wants to see more of his matches. Ishii is over, choppa style is the ultimate

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I showed one of my friends Shibata vs Ishii to introduce him to NJPW and he thought it was stupid because of the constant back and forth strikes and them allowing the other to just kick them during their tests of strengths. Tried to show him another match but he just wanted to stick to WWE.

          Ishii haters are out there

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how is he a hater?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not saying he himself hates Ishii, I’m saying that if someone dislikes an Ishii match for being an Ishii match to the point it turns them away, there are likely people out there who don’t like Ishii full stop.

              God knows he’s already hated by people who hate manlets in wrestling just for their size.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's called wrestling, nobody wants to see a match saturated with striking and minimal in grappling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does anyone dislike Roddy Strong?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SHITTY LITTLE BOOTS

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he actually looks like a wrestler.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Austrians of a certain sort demand respect. See Hitler.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Austrians of a certain sort demand respect. See Hitler.
      and Arnie

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The power of Österreich

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's got presence and is a great wrestler. He's also got an old school feel that triggers nostalgia.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >anti-smarks
    you mean normal people?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      normal people don't know what a mark or a smark is they just fucking watch wrestling

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s called a mark retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so a mark? there’s only marks and smarks

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's also anti-smarks. They appeared in protest of smarks. You'll find them in places like LULZ and r/scjerk

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anti-smarks are smarks.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anything beyond a mark is just a bigger mark. Being so obsessed you try to co-opt a carnival term to call yourself smart makes you a bigger, stupider mark

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            obese smark headcanon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An anti-smark is a smarks that have shooted themselves into a work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anti smarks are smarks who want to be even more unique by hating themselves and their "community"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        False. Anti-Smarks are wrestling fans who are against woke fat hipster vegan smarks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kek nobody has said "woke" in like 5 years and nobody has cared about hipsters for nearly a decade

          I showed one of my friends Shibata vs Ishii to introduce him to NJPW and he thought it was stupid because of the constant back and forth strikes and them allowing the other to just kick them during their tests of strengths. Tried to show him another match but he just wanted to stick to WWE.

          Ishii haters are out there

          e-drones aren't people

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            true obese tranny e-lite drones are subhuman

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We do not sign our posts here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you’re the most abnormal subset of fans you terminally online retard. go back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        step away from the mirror before it breaks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not totally normal. They're still hardcores, but you know how badly contrary opinions make others seethe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      marks are the normal people, aka NPCs and retards
      smarks are the contrarian dipshits who hate whatever the marks like
      anti-smarks are the refined individuals who disregard popularity and recognize objective quality
      smarter than a mark and more sensible than a smark

      called anti-smarks because they usually end up disgreeing with whatever dumbass shit smarks spout
      90% of this board are bona fide smarks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anti smarks are just contrarian smarks.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just marks, those other things don't exist

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is a smark? Everyone keeps using this term, I know what a mark is but I don’t know what a smark is. Can someone feed me, I brought my own spoon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Smark is a smart that wanders the IWC so much he became as invested as a clueless Mark for one wrestler and/or company success while knowing its all rigged.
      Anti-smarks are just people who hate smarks and so start hate what smarks on their website of choice love and support just for contrarianism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anti-smarks
        you mean normal people?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        smarks are the contrarians to marks and anti-smarks contradict smarks

        anti-smarks tend to be like marks if they had a brain and anti-smarks if they weren't habitual contrarians

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's something marks call themselves as a cope because they use "insider terms" and listen to Dave meltzer so they think they are smart, but still don't know what mark means

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Smark — A combination of the words "smart" and "mark." Used mostly in the wrestling field, but finding its way onto the carnival lot, the term refers to fans who believe they are "in the know" based on a certain amount of inside knowledge, but who are obviously (to those who are really "with it") poseurs much less informed than they think they are.
      https://www.goodmagic.com/carny/car_q-z.htm

      On LULZ, smark means snarky hardcore wrestling fan with a marked tendency to hate everything for silly purist reasonings, amd champion niche elements with typically low or lower mass appeal.
      It's a term you understand the nuances more by observing and analyzing the thoughts and behavior of the people who get labelled as it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m definitely a mark then. I hate the bloodline.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    by not being another cookie cutter long hair and a beard guy from NXT

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of marks think he’s boring but that’s why they’re marks. He’s doing his job and selling tickets

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having the hardest chops in the business is something that everyone can respect. He also has top tier presence, a cool faction with 2 great workers, and lastly he's been booked like a big deal from the literal moment he got into WWE.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's not a mark and takes advice from veterans

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he wrestle good

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vladimir Koslov looks like THAT?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >watching royal rumble with friends a few year back
    >some theme we dont know hits
    >kek this fat guy is named walter
    >hits the ring and starts beating and chopping the shit out of everyone
    >instantly over with us
    >get mad when he gets dumped out
    In an era of flippy shit its refreshing to just see a big dude beating the shit out of people without doing a bunch of retarded shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >has literally never been in the Royal Rumble

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon is from the future, where gunther’s name returns to walter

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GUNTHER! DER RING GENERAL! GUNTHER!

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I respected him before he started to look like he had AIDS just to be Vinces boy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mandrama is a body business. You need insane charisma to get over with this flab.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you describing walter? cus the dude can’t talk for shit. he’s literally a meme wrestler

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not the other guy but he speaks good enough for his role and gimmick, he doesnt need to be giving 10 minute speeches.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is a jobber to the stars look - a good spot but he's already started to look more muscular after cutting weight. He's going to be a monster. As for OP I believe it's the following:
        >A ground and pound heavyweight style that looks like it would hurt
        >6'4, wide frame and giant hands + the serious Austrian man face gives him a dimes look just standing there
        >there hasn't been a serious germanic wrestler in god knows how long. Karl Gotch?
        With his new tan + new physique if he puts on a good amount of muscle he'd be 10/10 rather than the 9/10 he is currently.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is he the best wrestler in the world overall? only his mic work isnt toptier.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In his weight category I'd say so. Ludwig is decent on the mic imo if he's is permenant mouthpiece. (I'd hope so - they're great friends irl and have been working together for years)

            Overall though I think he can get away with shouting some catch phrases in some aggressive Austrian.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only not likable thing about him is that he can’t cut a promo (negligible) and that he looks like a twig (his one flaw). He’s a good wrestler. It’s even more impressive that he’s over with management with those two flaws I listed AND the fact he refused to work in the states during his reign as NXT UK Champion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hes a shawn and paul guy, hes gonna be protected for a long while.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's already a solid worker, but with the recent Sheamus feud, who has 10/10 chemistry with him in the ring, he looks even better.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germanic ingenuity

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Simon Gotch at home.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >removes vinci's smile
    hes not over with me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had a dream that Gunther won the WWE Universal title so he gave the IC belt to Ludwig as a reward for his loyalty and then he won the US title and gave it to Giovanni.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i DON'T RESPECT HIM. hE TURNED HIS BACK ON WXW AND HIS HOME COUNTRY FOR BIG MACS AND BLACKS

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fake news

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's channeling as much Nazi energy as he can without actually being one, his group is the axis powers it's just missing a Japanese guy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No shingo please I didn't know she was Korean just put down the gun!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, no one wants to admit it but it's this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Fourth Reich rises

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His in-ring work is impeccable, so that satisfies the hardcore marks. Meanwhile he has a dimes presence that commands a level of attention and respect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah he’s cringe
      >le skinnyfat man chops xD
      cringe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is what every non-roided wrestler's physique looks like. They are universally pudgy if they aren't chemically enhancing themselves; presumably because they don't bother cutting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fine speech

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is John Cena Irish?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Albanian

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >skinnyfat
        He's clearly in shape, just not the most toned. But very clear muscle definition either requires gear or a bunch of work that's gonna be difficult to maintain on the road and won't actually help you athletically as a pro wrestler.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he looks like shit

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    German excellence.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if HHH doesnt make him world champion at some point, hes retarded.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Needs to get a clue

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has that Dimes Look

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think hes boring and green. I don't watch wrestling for fake tough guys acting out some match a chink had in 1996. Sheamus at least has charisma and he completely carried Gunther to a good match.

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