RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
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RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
Falling into your wing while paragliding is called 'gift wrapping' and turns you into a dirt torpedo pic.twitter.com/oQFKsVISkI— Mental Videos (@MentalVids) March 15, 2023
Russian IQ is dropping below zero in real time.
>More 50IQ shill posting.
Why won’t your mother hive help Russia? They’re doomed without it. Surely you can negotiate for the return of outer Manchuria.
>mfw now it's China who will be selling land to Russia
>mfw shills have given up now of supposed chink land claims and colonisation in Siberia
It’s absolutely hilarious listening to shills defend this shit. The cope vodkanaggers come up with is just surreal sometimes, but they’ve gotten a lifetime of practice I suppose
Here's you're (you). I hope a nuclear bomb malfunctions mid-flight and crushes you.
I know you “hope” bro. It was the last thing to escape Pandora’s box for a reason
Cheap anti drone ?
nothing cheap has every been made on water.
Cheap terminator. Front can be penetrated by 12.7mm and the sides by 7.62.
Run it up on high ground, jump out back door with tablet controller, deal death and destruction to everything for 1.5 miles until they score a direct hit to disable naval turret.
No, it's a vodka container.
kekekekekekek absolute ork status
Anyway putin kill them all. The israelite order must perish.
>Kill Slavs to own the israelites
needs more dakka
needs more dakka
cia being sillier lately
Meh, kills piggers just fine. Much better than a technical
Mosins do too right?
military superpower btw
Germans used horses in blitzkrieg, still worked out for them didn't it
Holy shit, Crimea in 2 years! These wunderwaffe wont be bogged down in spring thawing!
>Germans used horses in blitzkrieg, still worked out for them didn't it
Crazy they were able to advance like they did and create mass encirclements with horses and Russia can’t do shit but grind against the same city for 8 months and “regroup”.
Well the the french didn't have trenches or fortifications at their flanks and Poland was Poland. Ukies have 60k in a defensive fortress and are still losing to convicts. How will you cope?
I was talking about operation Barbarossa you silly little fool. Why can’t Russian do large mechanized offensives like they did 80 years ago?
Cause this conflict isn't threatening their homeland? Nafo is too pussy to do anything lmao
Then why is Russia seething about all the weapons NATO is sending?
Because it is annoying to fight more gibs than before? Less shit to destroy=the better
So nato is doing something then
Barely, and even then they disallow any use of their gibs on Russian land. KEKED AHAHAHAHA
That’s some delicious cope. Please do moar for my funny.
Coping about what? That Nafo won't do shit that will directly affect Russia?
Cringe cope but you’re desperate and I get it
> Run it up on high ground, jump out back door with tablet controller, deal death and destruction to everything for 1.5 miles until they score a direct hit to disable naval turret.
Eastern Ukraine is flat as a pancake and if you think the 70 year old cannon can be fired from a tablet you’re dumber than Koko the gorilla
Lost to convicts *~~
Lost what? Not Bakhmut
Nope they don’t. Russian IR is all active, not passive like FLIR
Lost to convicts
>Nope they don’t. Russian IR is all active, not passive like FLIR
All far-IR is passive. Active near-IR hasn't been a thing since the 60s. Fuck, I've a passive near-IR cascade tube from the early 70s. Russians have gen2+ near-IR stuff as their surplus/outdated tubes sold regularly on ebay before this gay shit started.
You can't have active far/thermal IR as shining IR at something defeats the purpose of detecting heat.
But these are russian war trophies, why do they do this?
Without NATO this would already have been over, with Ukraine running out of certain types of vehicles, ammunition and spare parts.
If NATO can keep an infinite flow of equipment going this will truly drag on to the last hohol, but considering they can not provide that equipment they will have to either come to terms with reality and take the L, or send high end equipment to be wasted by untrained crews.
>running through minefield
so anti-personnel mines? Of course these are less dangerous to people in trucks, but I still don't see why a wheeled vehicle would not trigger those.
Speed. If you go fast enough the mines dont trigger mines dont go off.
>by driving at over 100Km/h, the Toyota would not trigger land mines regardless of payload. Un-armoured, the rugged, square box chassis could out manoeuvre their cumbersome quarry – Chadian Hilux losses were few.
You better not be lying to me.
>so the Orks were right all along
Other report is simply that the mines did eventually go off, but at 100kph the truck was clear of the danger radius.
So either the mines dont go off, or they did go off but due to fuse lag, the vehicle was clear of the blast.
Honestly even if you hit a mine it will only blow a tire. With run-flat tires this is only be a minor impediment.
Of course somebody can be injured, say when cornering and hitting a mine with the forward inside wheel, so it detonates under the truck - but anti-personnel mines generally aren't fatal to infantry stepping on it, so the risk of severe injury sitting behind some sheet metal one meter away is pretty damn low.
The mines go off instantly when the truck drives over them or they do not go off at all. And an anti tank mine has way way more explosives than an anti personell mine. It would shred a toyota truck into confetti.
For anti-vehicle mines:
>The small time delay allows the vehicle to continue over the mine before detonating, exposing more of it to the blast.
some are instant, some have a slight delay of a half second
It causes extra Russian casualties.
Prolongs a war whose outcome already is obvious.
Brings many weapons to the black market in Eastern Europe.
>which will become a fun little problem for all of Europe sooner or later
Can't wait to see the first politician assassinated with an NLAW tbh
And finally it costs Russia money to destroy all that shit.
>tfw we didn't even get a Borodino
>or Moscow for the matter
Then again Napoleon didn't really get Moscow either.
>took 6 months for bakhmut
>th- the outcome is obvious!!
It's purely about casualty numbers. Germany also lost WW1 that way.
You may remember we beat Russia and held Belgian and French territory to the very end?
But we ran out of troops and supplies and such.
Russia can fight a LOT harder if it must. Ukraine cannot.
>Russia can fight a LOT harder
the fuck it can. that's absolutely cope. the only thing "harder" you have is literal nukes, and those are off-limits for a damn good reason.
Take a legit look at the losses recorded by Oryx. Even if they're doubling some of their counts, the gear Russia sent in, the teams Russia sent in on day one, were their best.
>Take a legit look at the losses recorded by Oryx
This is an /Uhg/ thread
>nooo, you can't just actually have documents
>you have to believe that the Kremlin is totally honest
the fuck kind of Russian are you?
Sorry I only listen to legit sources like the KYIV INDEPENDENT
Hence my caveat. Even if Oryx was doubling, even making triples on some of the count, the Gear that was and is recovered and imaged is still the best that Russia had. The teams they sent, in multiple events, were their best armies.
You know what, I agree, go down to Donetsk and tell the troops to fight harder, they're not giving enough. Clearly Putin is just going light on these guys.
Yes, only person that counts visually confirmed losses. Sucks to be Russian with all those 10k pictures and video lmao
>10k pictures of random truck axles and rusty tractors marked as t-90s
The only ones more retarded than Oryx are those that shill him as a reliable source
>Russia didn't lose 10k vehicles
>They are pulling out Btr-50, ghetto Mt-lb and T-62M because....BECAUSE THRY JUST WANT OKAY
How do you know what they're pulling? 90% of the Russian army is sitting around in Moscow?
>How do you know what they're pulling?
Because we've seen lost T-62M and Btr-50 on transport vehicles getting transported to Ukraine, also OP pic
>VISUALLY CONFIRMED LOSSES
yes the turk is on the battlefield walking around counting each one by hand
You can keep repeating the lie as much as you want but what would be the point?
Point which Oryx images those match. Those should be labeled so we can check.
>PO-POINT TO THE-
Oryx images tend to have dates on them.
Yours do not, nor have you pointed to which ones are supposedly overcounted with your image.
IPSO, you're full of shit hoping that whoever sees it won't bother to look at how Oryx actually documents.
They're all coded. Which kills are you claiming were duplicated?
>won't bother to look at how Oryx actually documents
He takes images off of Twitter, what the fuck do you mean
this guy quit his online presence after being totally humiliated lmao
it's literally just a pic with a dude photoshopped out for opsec
can you link me to this tweet or to armchair copelords twitter for that matter?
Alright here's an example. The vast majority of the T72-Bs (244) listed on his page don't have any discernable markings to indicate they're Russian, and are fielded by both countries yet were attributed predominantly to the Russian side
oryx also has a link for every single tank they count. Mostly twitter. So here is oryx's first log of a T90S taken out as an example:
The second one:
Third and 4th:
That is it for the T90S entries. If the source they cite is fake then its bad info. You need qualified people to follow each of the twitter links and confirm they are fake or not (or doubling up as claimed above). But in the examples above there is definitely no doubling up going on.
It gets trickier when you look at more common tanks shared by both sides of the conflict. The more rare the tank, the more accurate Oryx seems to be.
Funnily enough, that is a ukie humvee. The armored doors are a dead giveaway.
Which are different shape than humvees but fits Russian Tigr-m?
Nope. Still a humvee. Or will you find me tigr hooks on the bumper?
Hint, its one the older ones with the weirdish roof - http://www.autoconsulting.com.ua/pictures/_upload/1416580604FjP3_h.jpg
Not a thumbnail this time
Uhhh...you understand that photo you've provided has completely different shape of a bumper. The bumper in destroyed photo is twice as long as in one you've provided as humvee reference.
Are you retarded?
Whatever you say buddy, could you show me the tigr hooks on the first picture then?
Notice how the entire body is melted I can find that the Humvee is made of aluminum but there is no mention of aluminum on wikii for the Tigr and I don't think Russia tends to make any vehicles out of aluminum anyway? Also bottom right of the photo those sort of silver lines that's how melted aluminum pools.
BMD-4M which Russia has lost a lot of are aluminium
fair enough though this is clearly a wheeled vehicle, though there is some other vehicles they have with at least some aluminum used apparently including the bmp-3.
I would still think since Russia likes to make everything cheap they would probably stick to steel on a vehicle as low value as a wheeled apc?
>BMD-4M which Russia has lost a lot of are aluminium
The MT-LBu is also aluminium. There are two MT-LB, the smaller one has six wheels and is made of steel, the larger one has a different front and has seven wheels and is made of aluminium. Both are way too light and underarmored to be anywhere near the frontline.
you are retarded
They’re welding 70 year old naval cannons on 70 year old APCs for a reason, same as buying shells from North Korea for a reason
What is the reason?
Oryx is right is the reason. 😉
If only mobliks could be recycled too!
yea it's called recycling actually a smart move and if it works who cares? you don't need to have the latest and greatest smart lgbtq+ nueral network bullshit in your lineup
I'll stand in front of 19th century black ball cannon. It's current year bitch!
>pumps you full of grapeshot, swings down from the rafters and stabs you with triangular bayonet
I don't see how the USA doing all these shitty modifications on M113s or Humvees is any different.
Most of them sucked badly.
if they're APCs or transports and they get troops to their intended point they did their job. new or old they're not tanks
with that said i'm not saying either are great it's just a smart move militarily speaking
It's just a matter of recycling. If you have a ton of some kind of old vehicle making new use of it is a decent idea.
Of course this Russian design is semi-improvised, but if it works?
Probably meant to be parked behind some sort of cover or in woodland, and either shoot drones or people.
Still think a ZSU 34-4 would be better. Should give those bitches another modernization.
How do I always managed to misstype this shit?
Iirc there was a modernisation kit that added a new radar and digital fire controll as well as four igla manpads. The one in your picture looks like an afghan war moddification where they stripped out the radar for more ammo storage so they could use it for direct fire in the mountains, as ordinary tanks often found they could not elevate their guns enough to target Talitards uphill.
because its cheap and "good enough", and they are winning with it as they ramp up production of things like T14. one or two dozen T14 is just like one or two dozen leopards, it isn't going to change outcome, only make your wallet say "ouch" when they are all gone in a week. When you can come with 1,000 Leopards or T14s then things get interdasting. Production lines of latest generation fighters, tanks, etc. are running around the clock in Russia now. Russia is currently winning with the junior varsity as their Military industrial complex gets back up to speed. War is about logistics, NATO has made a horrible mistake. You either start bombing the factories in Russia or things are going to get real ugly, maybe WW3 all over continental Europe. These are globohoimo liberals, they are not wise people.
>the only thing "harder" you have is literal nukes,
Ever notice how NATO shills address anyone who isn't on their side as Russians, even when the flag is a completely different country? Implying that only Russians could have anti-narrative opinions?
yup it's just plain lazy and disingenuous- like NATO
Talking about cope.
>haha russia is winning too slowly!!!
god I really hope some mad Ukrop will assassinate Orbán
I thought it was NATO israelite seething that the Chinese might send some weapons to proxy war testing grounds ?
Why haven’t they? Is it because Putin isn’t yet willing to hand over Vladivostok in exchange? Soon
Aren't they just selling them even more generic artillery? Which is probably ideal for a war were not much ground changes hands.
NATO doesn't really have that much conventional artillery in the first place probably why they haven't sent all that much
Clever to use when your enemy is now 95% foot infantry and relies on low flying aircraft and drones.
why isn't Russia building more Terminator BMP instead of this shit I thought their military industry has no problem keeping up with the attrition rate
Waste not, want not.
Pump our modded BNP by the hundreds or thousands at almost no expense while building up stockpile of hundreds or thousands of terminators.
I don't think war works the way you think it does.
Even this franken weapon is an example of the fact that you are re-awakening the Russian bear and its military industrial complex. They have live fire combat experience against western weapons now and are starting to evolve.
You're going to end up with a battle hardened army, armed with the latest developed weapons in the world rolling off new assembly lines as a result of NATO aggression and publicly stated goal of Russian regime change. NATO has already attacked Russian military and merchant shipping on high seas, defacto war. NATO will be weapons depleted with a public that no longer supports them.
Liberals always claim that something bad is going to happen, then they make it happen. Enjoy your European destruction. You could have left the bear alone, could have minded your own business with respect to sliver of land border dispute between 2 shitholes, instead you have chosen to die for it. You did not chose wisely.
Why aren't they just building more battleproven BMP-2 and BMP-3 then
Have you ever been inside one? BMP-2 and BMP-3 are cramped from the inside and fill a very specific role as an IFV. They have dividing wall inside with seats on both sides, every wall is full of all sorts of equipment, there's a fucking cannon, with its ammo, autoloader, gunner seat etc...
MT-LB on the other hand is a real work horse, and can serve a multitude of different functions. It can be used to carry men and equipment. It can be used to evacuate broken vehicles or wounded people. It can be used as an armored machine gun post. It can be used as a fucking battering ram. 11 passengers can fit on board just like in BMP-2, but you can squeeze in several more if you really try, unlike in BMP-2. There's so much space inside for all sorts of things, making the vehicle very versatile.
It's obvious the ones here are only used in the rear unlike BMP, and these turrets here are most definitely a cheap upgrade to the stock pellet gun at the front, which is completely useless. Most likely to work as a cheap defense against infantry, and an observation deck against drones. It's not like MT-LB is well protected anyways, and literally a 14mm bullet can penetrate its sides or rear. They wouldn't be building these if they didn't have a need for it.
The fact that it is really a full utility vehicle as you say, used as APC, artillery tractor, carrying supplies, ambulance and isn't really suited to being near the front lines that makes me think it can't be intended for much other than AA. for which that 25mm is way more capable than a HMG
Suicide tin cans.
good copypasta. Didn’t read but the effort of whoever typed that up is impressive.
I don't think you know how production and manhours spent actually works.
Terminators are all built on tank chassis. And from. What we've been told basically any line able to work in tanks is being used to repair and refurbish proper tanks, its doubtful many are being used to churn out more new terminators. So expedient refits of other stuff to fill their capabilities does make sense. But throwing naval turrets on MT-LB's is next level ork shit.
Because their industry is non-existant. Stop listening to /misc/s retarded ratniks and look at whats going on
I think the main reason they’re doing this is because they’re running out of the 30mm ammo their BMPs use but have lots of 25mm shit rusting away in naval warehouses
Ratnik means "warrior" you fucking moron. Thanks for the complement though
A weapon to surpass metal gear
if resistance was futile the psyops and outright lies wouldn't be necessary
Zisterbros...I don't feel so good
USA USA USA
that's cool as fuck
do they need to repaint these?
they do they get standard woodland camo IIRC
Yes. Yellow and blue with a Star of David.
they'll be red by the end anyway
Why did no one carpet bomb this?
You need an Air Force to drop bombs
>taliban lol 45
THIS IS NOT TALIBAN YOU ABSOLOT MONKY!
THIS IS IRAQ
AND THIS IS ISIS
THE SAME GUYS YOU CLAIM TO BE "PUPPET OF THE WEST"
OH WAIT; I FORGOTTEN
YOU ARE JUST DOUBLE STANDARD WHO FLIPFLOP SHITS AROUND!
2 MORE WEEKS?
Cry about it piggie
You homosexuals are now trying to shill leapord leapard 1s and Bradley's against 25mm dakka?
thats a lot of equipment on 1 ship
that ship should watch out, there are still many mines around in europe
Was that on a ship or on the dock? In either case that ship isn't going to be sailing alone.
It's a fucking dock you mongrel
For context. Most of this is shit Poland bought from the USA last year. Unless Poland plans to donate a bunch if the Export model M1's they bought.
The US sent a lot too though:
31 M1 Abrams [To be delivered]
45 T-72B tanks (manufactured by Excalibur Army, purchase and upgrade financed by USA) [delivered from December 2022 onwards]
Infantry Fighting Vehicles
109 M2A2 ODS Bradleys [To be delivered]
Armoured Personnel Carriers
300 M113s [Delivered from July 2022 onwards]
100 Armoured Medical Treatment Vehicles [To be delivered]
250 M1117 ASVs [To be delivered]
90 Strykers [To be delivered]
4 Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles [February 2023]
Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles
440 International M1224 MaxxPro [Delivered from July or August 2022 onwards]
37 Cougars [February 2023]
289 Unknown MRAPs [To be delivered. 108 pleadged in January 2023, 181 more pledged in February 2023]
Infantry Mobility Vehicles
1800+ HMMWVs [Delivered from April 2022 onwards]
100+ Light Tactical Vehicles [To be delivered]
44 trucks and 88 trailers to transport heavy equipment
6 armored utility trucks
100 armored medical treatment vehicles
142 155mm M777s [Delivered from April 2022 onwards]
72 105mm Howitzers [To be delivered]
18 155mm M109s [To be delivered] (along with 30 ammunition support vehicles)
Multiple Rocket Launchers
20 227mm HIMARS [June 2022] (further 18 to be delivered)
Surface-To-Air Missile (SAM) Systems
8 NASAMS Batteries [Delivered from November 2022 onwards]
2 MIM-23 Hawk firing units [February 2023]
12 AN/TWQ-1 Avengers [Delivered from December 2022 onwards]
What does [to be delivered] mean ? That Russian weapon is going into combat tomorrow. No long training program, don't have to send maintenance techs to 6 months of school. You can have the wunderwaffen to beat them all, but it ain't worth shit if you can't put it on the battlefield.
>Middle East leavings still modified for insurgent warfare
>they didn’t even repaint them
The Abrams has a 165 degree touch temp garaged, and needs 300 gallons of diesel every 6 hours of stationary operation. These will absolutely GLOW under IR.
This will boost Russian morale once videos of these getting their tops popped off start circulating. This is such a bad move as it will undermine the American military industrial complex from the propaganda of these insurgent/desert equipped tanks being absolutely mogged by a uniformed army known for artillery prowess.
> The Abrams has a 165 degree touch temp garaged, and needs 300 gallons of diesel every 6 hours of stationary operation. These will absolutely GLOW under IR.
Lmao! Russia doesn’t have passive IR because they can’t afford it. And the Abrams burns 400 gallons an hour without the engine even running.
They don’t need it. Give one guy an arty laser with a FLIR camera duct-taped to it and picking these off would be comical.
> FLIR camera
Russia doesn’t have these
Russia is buying shells from North Korean deep storage lmao
>Russia doesn’t have these
they do, they practically invented them. they may not have enough.
I remember when we had fundraising for the 2nd Iraq war. Guys didn't have body armor, boots...
The US talks a bunch of shit about other nations, but we routinely let our shit get outdated.
I think you don't quite understand how these night vision devices work. They actually are really simple. Everybody can do it, including the Chinese.
But the question is
>can they do it well?
There can be no doubt the West has the most advanced ones, and its own system of "generations" to classify them, the highest grades of which Russia cannot build, but they can build the equivalent of 2nd and 3rd generation devices, which is perfectly adequate.
> I think you don't quite understand how these night vision devices work
I do though. Western ones are passive IR that detect the heat emitted from enemy vehicles and troops. Russian garbage is active IR that beams out an infrared light and picks up the reflection. It lights it up like a lighthouse and makes it a perfect target for passive ir
I am speaking of "passive" image intensifier tubes only.
They gave up "active" IR in Soviet times already, but of course some old, unmodernized vehicles may still have the equipment.
Why do you think the modernized tanks don't have the IR floodlight anymore, hm?
>because they don't need it
And in the case of the T-90 those actually are for blinding IR sensors.
Russia doesn't have gallium, or lead, or Arsenide reserves to make the sensors, do they oh wise one ?
Russia produces two domestic types of IR sights for their tank, and the crappiest of them is comparable to a M60 TTS, which was state of the art 30 years ago.
They're literally fitting FLIR to their fucking T-62s. Your lies are worthless, israelite.
Listen guy I saw pics of Russia with trampoline-shaped cages welded to their roofs. I have zero confidence in Russia armor/anti-armor capabilities.
I am not a russiaboo but the fact that the NATO is continously giving this stuff to the ukraininans and they're still in a stalemate doesn't speak well of NATO and ukraine.
They haven’t used any of that shit yet.
Huh? There are humvies burning in fields right now
Javelins and tanks thrown around in the thousands
What are you talking about?
I’m talking about Bradley’s and Western tanks obviously.
>NO THAT WONDERWUFFINE DOESN'T COUNT WHAT COUNTS ARE THESE WONDERFUFFIN, THEY'LL SURELY WIN THE WAR
The entire stat of the war we're shills spamming that tanks are useless now apparently tanks are the game changer
Russian tanks are useless, that’s for sure. Anyway I was just answering the anon but you’re seethe was nice too
>and tanks thrown around in the thousands
Russian tanks, thanks to Javelins. As what he means is that nothing heavy(Stryker, Bradley, Abrams, Leopard, Marder) has arrived yet
How? They're Ukrainians, not Americans. Sandnaggers were sandnaggers, not Americans. You can give third worlders equipment but they're not fighters. Russia and Ukraine are both third world with low morale and 0 significant training.
All of those vehicles and chains didn't load and strap themselves down. I am getting PTSD from looking at that picture.
nice, I can't wait to see my tax payer resources blown up in some shithole by some royshit retards.
God damn the west is retarded.
Ukraine is so corrupt and literally the same as russia.
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War in Ukraine was a big fuck up just because of this. Shit if this was a world war, they'd nuke or bomb that shit but now they can't.
Imagine a tactical nuke in the middle
So uhhh, it's literally just a turret? You are on a raised platform with a turret that protects you from small arms and stuff on the sides and you are higher up so you can see further and shoot further without the main body of the vehicle being exposed?
This looks impressive if you don't understand the scale of the war
>2 or 3 times this number of armored cars
So it's 240-300 fighting vehicles and some support vehicles.
Over 1,000 tanks have been lost, and at this point way more have been lost, by both sides in this conflict.
these guys get it
>you can see further and shoot further without the main body of the vehicle being exposed?
cons is that you well be noticed sooner and part where gunner is siting is exposed to fire,
but aside that someone must be really brave or stupid to drive this castle tower on track in to the battled field, not because is bad constructed per say, But because is flashy as fuck, if there is line of 10 BMP and 1 of this parade float, then +50% enemy of fire will be concentered on this Warp Pipe,
>if there is line of 10 BMP and 1 of this parade float, then +50% enemy of fire will be concentered on this Warp Pipe,
sounds like a pro, not a cons. no idea how expensive these things are, but it must be cheaper than 5 bmps
Something tells me they will either send them as they are and get completely fucked or they will spend months repainting them to get fucked anyways.
It may not look good but it works.
from the other thread
Long tower is long
now put a cuck cage ontop of it
It's all about the woods look now.
>no Vs, and Os for almost a year now
damn I miss those belarussian front guys like you wouldn't believe
Big penis Armoured Personnel Carrier.
pretty sure twin 25mm perform at least as well as single 20mm on Stryker vehicle with similar survivability as far as armor goes.
Russians have literally thousands of those personal carriers and guns sitting around. They were all paid for decades ago. Seems like it might be brilliant, we will have to see how they preform.
Why don’t they have 1000s of normal armored vehicles sitting around, or T-14s?
>Why don’t they have 1000s of normal armored vehicles sitting around
They do, but they didn't maintain them and many cant even move under their own power anymore.
So they’re literally sitting around then?
Maybe because Russia wasn't the threat Biden told you they were. Are you capable of believing your liberal leaders lie to and manipulate you ?
I know. Remember when the CIA was spreading all those lies a year ago about how Russia was going to invade Ukraine and Putin and Lavarov denied it up and down?
He reminds me of the big dog from two stupid dogs, kek.
How many surveillance photos did you see of Ukrainian troops in Donbas when they were showing you the photos of Russian troop build up ? Remember when they told you there were going to be "large scale false flags" of Russians in Ukrainian unforms slaughtering civilians that the Russians would use as an excuse to invade ? Now you know it was really Azov genocide operations they were propaganda covering for.
I know bro. The CIA was lying and Russia never invaded Ukraine at all! Have you even seen any footage of the war at all? There aren’t even any threads about it on the catalog, not even this one!
dats just about perfekt
WHY'S IT NOT PAINTED RED YA GROT?
seems like they put literally every single weapon in existence on the back of this apc, whatever it is its fucking awesome
>seems like they put literally every single weapon in existence on the back of this apc, whatever it is its fucking awesome
Its a pre world war 2 twin 25 mm naval turret.
>Its a pre world war 2 twin 25 mm naval turret.
Any proofs because I've seen some burger claim the turrets are unmanned kek
>>Its a pre world war 2 twin 25 mm naval turret.
>Any proofs because I've seen some burger claim the turrets are unmanned kek
My bad, its actually a weapon designed during world war 2 and accepted into service post war. Its this thing: http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_25mm-79_2m-3.php
25x218 mm cartridge, 3000 fps muzzle velocity. The chingchongs made a copy of this gun mount so they should have 1 billion rounds of 25 mm stored somewhere. I am amazed that they stored these gun mounts somewhere. Next up is probably all the 45 mm guns they had as light autocannon naval AAA during the 50s and 60s.
AI generated tank
Am I supposed to know what this is, or am I supposed to just think "haha looks silly therefore it's dumb"
They are 80 year old turrets they repurposed from the navy and put them on vehicles almost as old.
They will kill. Do you dispute that ? Can you point to an APC that has more powerful guns ?
decent firepower, but the original vehicle was built low and flat for a reason. This things silhouette is horrific and will shorten its battlefield life considerably.
There is a reason modern Russian tanks don't look like the KV2 anymore.
I think the landscape for armor is changing. Patton said "fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man", I think technology is making 40-60 tons of armor obsolete in the same way. The proliferation of anti-tank weapons means if a tank get hit by tank fired anti-tank round, Anti-tank guided missile, air based anti-tank attack, etc., the tank dies. Thick armor was worth it 30 years ago, not today. Today's tanks need to be able to survive small arms, indirect arty hits, 20mm maybe, anything else is overkill because all the weapons that defeat that also defeat the extra armor. Its becoming a pure troop support vehicle, a moving pill box with machine guns that can take on enemy machine gun position, come out around corner and put cannon round into building dull of enemy, etc.
I mean that may be the idea, but it’s obviously just the most effective way to incinerate 4-6 men at once in practice.
You couldn’t pay me enough to sit in a tank in this conflict, but they have to stay optimistic about the support they’re actually getting so everyone feels better and they keep getting more shit.
What Ukraine needs is air support, especially if Russia is putting out AA shit like OP’s pic. Funny we never see planes in any of these generous donations, and no money spent on aircraft by Ukraine.
Imagine one old-ass apache in any particular field setting, Russian infantry would be too busy endlessly shitting themselves at night to get any sleep just hearing one hovering around.
Its more so that if they have a direct counter in place then no amount of armour will save you sure, but on the offensive they still do take a fair few hits to the turret, and apparently almost all hits are to the turret I guess maybe because tanks like to exploit terrain? In any case if you drop the armour to low they will have to worry about some very light weapons and struggle to push into even the most lightly defended and disorganized of enemy areas.
But I would agree that having them be a bit light and not trying to have the most perfect armour is the better choice and that they should try to stick to 40tons and not 60+.
totally different roles, if we assume the MT-LB is some sort of AA weapon which I can't see what else it will be since it was never meant to be at the front of an assault in its original form since it has next to no armour It shouldn't get shot at to much, the kv-2 on the other hand was an assault gun intended for destroying enemy fortifications, so it had no way of avoiding being shot at.
The MT-LB with the naval gun isn't an AA. It's just an all-terrain lightly armored guntruck.
I mean, its essentially the same thing as an MT-LB with a Zu-23-2 mounted on top, just slightly more armored (and thus slightly better). And its going to be used for exactly the same thing.
The naval gun it self was for AA purposes though
>if we assume the MT-LB is some sort of AA weapon
AA against what? That's just silly, there is nothing the air today that that turret could ever hit.
The only use for it is a stopgap infantry support vehicle.
Pentagon is literally developing IVAS system to make tranny soldiers look like hot women, display their "girl name", and force all soldiers to call them "real women". Do you want to fight for that ? If so, Ukraine is the place for you.
>Pentagon is literally developing IVAS system to make tranny soldiers look like hot women
Not even DARPA will make (You) pass homosexual
>They will kill.
They won't. That piece of shit can be penetrated frontally by anything bigger than rifle round, try getting it in range of anything it can damage is death sentence for it
The 25 millimeter has 3,000 yard range. at 600 meters against some ukies across field in a trench or farmhouse with AKs it is the angel of death.
>The 25 millimeter has 3,000 yard range.
Only with good optics, a rangefinder, and a ballistic computer it does.
No need to make it that fucking scary.
>HMG sniper with 3000 yard range
>and night vision
>and 20x optics
>aaand a computer
I wonder why they don't bring back ZSU 23-5 instead.
Against ground targets it should effectively be the same.
Anon, who needs aiming when you have dakka.
Seriously though, those won't be used against vehicles but against drones and infantry, perhaps light vehicles but that's a big PERHAPS.
They would work better as support saturation fire against infantry.
>at 600 meters against some ukies across field in a trench or farmhouse with AKs it is the angel of death.
At 600 range it won't hit broad side of a barn, however it will get turned into swiss cheese by any 30mm or even 14.5
>At 600 range it won't hit broad side of a barn
But those shells explode and get out of those barrels at 250rpm
25mm shoots through concrete houses making sharpnel out of it when it goes.
Realistically they exist to deplete anti-tank rockets.
Their mobliks are doing a great job depleting NATO ammunition stocks by intercepting them with their bodies.
Absolute cope, typical hohol projection for the 16 and 60 year olds they're sending to the front lines
Hey bro, good to see a black man holding down a job even if it’s shilling.
If those pic numbers are true, then this war has been a huge success for Russia. Hell, they could be even multiplied with 10 and it would still be 100% victory.
Most of the casualties were front loaded too from the disastrous rush for Kiev. Everything after that has just been artillery spam that Ukrainians have not been able to fight back against. It's not surprising that it's become such a one sided slaughter when all they can do is wait in their trenches and get shelled, or push through presighted killing fields like I'm Kherson
It’s amazing Russia can’t make progress then
Reminder that Russia is defending their new territories against superior numbers, Ukraine is supposed to be the one pushing.
>Most of the casualties were front loaded too from the disastrous rush for Kiev
In Vuhledar in last month Russia lost 134 vehicles, visually confirmed
I'm sure they were, did the Ghost of Queef assist?
>those image are lies Russia didn't lose 134 vehicles, even if there's multiple videos of them losing dozens of vehicles trying to attack Vuhledar
>Multiple cut up videos of the same attack mean you can add up all the losses
No wonder Ukraine is winning with math like that
>those videos are just multiple cuts of same attack
>even if terrain is different
>vehicles lost are in different composition
>and actually it's easily identifiable as different places around Vuhledar!
>but really guys, Russian losses are overblown, stop looking at videos and photos, they are all CGI anyway
It's gonna be hilarious watching the mental gymnastics of you shills when the war is over and for some unexplainable reason a million Ukrainian men have disappeared off the face of the earth
one billion gorillion dead hohols yeah sure shitskin
I'm already seeing mental gymnastics of shills as for some unexplained reasons tens of thousands of Russian vehicles disappeared of the face of the earth
You realize most of those were pretty rusty anyway? Plus in Russian army doctrine all equipment is meant to be dispoable. That's one reason why it's cheap and plentiful.
So overall it's not too big of a deal. NATO is also losing a proportional amount of equipment, if not more.
They already said it will take many years to rebuild NATO stocks in many areas, and fill the vacancies of tanks sent to Ukraine.
So the weapons are serving their purpose. It is natural they are also used up in the process.
I'm pretty much just quoting from the Russian manual here.
I like that it has round paddles in the rear.
Damn these Philippino shills are out of control.
So true, here's example, Russian artillery shells(in form of Bmp-1) raining down on Hohol infantry(in tanks), Vodyane, circa 2023 colorized
Shouldn't you report to your nearest embassy hohol? They're running out of 60 years old to grab off the street and might have to start repatriating some of you refugees
I know it's the line and everything but I don't actually get what's bad about these
>Has a metal shield around it
So basically they are higher up and can see above a bunch of obstructions, can peek above hills, can hide in depressions with only the gun exposed, and the hull can be kept hidden because it's got a tall turret on top?
So uhhh, what is the actual problem here? Presumably you could go hull-down and only have this naval gun exposed.
>It's a naval gun or something
And this is bad how? Aren't naval guns made for long-range fighting and big boy vehicles already, what does this have to do with anything?
Is this to give the piles of useless MT-LBs a chance at doing something?
>piles of useless MT-LB
They're reactivating 50s BTR-50s because they're running out of MT-LB actually
They are though and Russian milbloggers are seething at the MoD over it
What is this? What am I looking at?
Is it like a machine gun tower or what tf
25mm AA gun off a boat welded to an MT-LB
Oh okay. It’s kinda comical, but they are reusing what they got, not really that bad.
BTR here is nothing more than a movable platform for the AA, so they can relocate them as they move along behind front lines.
Considering that this cost them less than nothing and that it functionally fully covers their needs, it’s really good.
Idk why people perceive this as bad, it’s not high tech american weapon but it will do the job just as fine and any loss of equipment is not a big deal.
The before mentioned mentality is exactly the same as leftist “new is better because it’s new”. So yeah stupid shill thread hope you glowies get fucked.
What’s bad is that they need to do this shit in the first place because they’re running out of BMPs.
If it can shoot drones or whatever they are intending which I think it would need some sort of optics or sensors to do its fine, if it can't really do what its intended to do its stupid.
If it has the sensors to find drones in the first place the awkwardness of the vehicle hardly matters.
> If it has the sensors to find drones in the first place the awkwardness of the vehicle hardly matters.
Does it look like it does bro?
Is it on a charger?
Looks fine to me? Probably meant to be able to fire over low buildings and walls?
It's a far cry from the cope cages of the past.
Also did you see Africa, or Middle Easterners? This on the other hand is real engineering. That shit's welded. An American couldn't do better either without a billion dollar budget lmao
Technicals success came from being light enough to not trigger anti tank mines, and their high mobility, and lower logistics costs. In the 1980s these technicals ran circles around the soviet armor.
The results speak for themselves, and technicals were a significant (if a bit funny looking) part of war ever since. This was 1980s soviet armor being annihilated by brown people with machine guns on trucks.
This new monstrosity Russian has unleashed has none of the strengths (slow, and heavy enough to trigger mines) and all of the weaknesses (easily taken out by the most basic of small arms). Its mechanical reliability is also highly suspect since its weight distribution is fucked. The firepower it puts down isn't that different than any other AA gun bolted to a truck.
>light enough to not trigger anti tank mines
Honestly would not bet my ass on this. Magnetic mines aside it's mainly about ground pressure, and tracked tanks tend to have fairly low ground pressure per area. As such a lighter wheeled vehicle may exert no less pressure on the stuff it rolls over, and the overall pressure required to trigger them generally is less than a ton.
But I admit a tracked vehicle has an overall higher chance to trigger a mine.
Their mine resistance was well documented. Libya relied far too much on anti-tank mines for defence on their bases. The trucks didn't trigger the mines, and the Libyan forces in their retreat ran through their own mine fields inflicting massive losses.
>In March 1987, the main Libyan air base of Ouadi Doum was captured by Chadian forces. Although strongly defended by minefields, 5,000 soldiers, tanks, armoured vehicles, and aircraft, the Libyans' base fell to a smaller Chadian attacking force led by Djamous equipped with trucks mounted with machine guns and antitank weapons. Observers estimated that, in the Chadian victories in the first three months of 1987, more than 3,000 Libyan soldiers had been killed, captured, or deserted. Large numbers of tanks, armoured personnel carriers, artillery, fixed-wing aircraft, and helicopters were captured or destroyed. In some cases, Libya sent its own aircraft to bomb abandoned Libyan equipment to deny its use to the Chadians.
>At Ouadi Doum, panicked Libyans had suffered high casualties running through their own minefields.
Nafotroons picking up the slack they have had the last 2 weeks
mobile SPAAG for anti-drone warfare
How long until they reach Iraqi tier?
you mean ukraine tier?
This thread is starting to smell like /k
Ivan post picture of his $400 PSA shredding targets, all the /k fags lose their shit claiming it isn't a real AR if it is sub $3,000 with at least $2,500 optic. Safe queens vs. the guys that go shooting.
/K/opetards are on damage control now that the actual conflict casualty numbers are starting to come out and it's an absolutely lopsided slaughter in favour of the russians
when the third reich started using naval guns on tanks, they weren't winning.
I've heard it was doubtful if the turret could even move, since the hydraulics of the the thing are in the vessel. Without hydraulics, this'd make it alike to the KV-2
Why didn't they paint them yellow to make them more dakka? Good to know Russia is Syria-tier now.
Did a dalek fuck a boat?
oi get sum mor spikez yer grotz
What am I looking at here?
Dont you fucking tell me you have a genuine pic of the notorious portable chimneys of auswitch!!
>Bakhmut being dominated
>Wagner fags rotate off front lines bitching about being under supplied
>Russians say "go look around in boneyard, take anything you want"
This is what happens
The men doing the fighting are putting together a weapon to win the kinds of fights they have been fighting
I dub this weapon the "sledgehammer". it will rule the trenches and villages going through the poorly trained and led ukies like a hot knife through butter. wasn't it like a week ago we saw a video of some Wagner fags hand firing a dismounted 25mm through a hole in a building wall ? One guy up against the braces and another behind him pushing him forward. These guys like the gun and the results it produces. Now they have twins capable of 300 rpm each mounted on a vehicle that can carry all the ammo they want. Not a good day to be a Ukrainian homosexual.
I know the video you're talking about, by their accents those guys were Chechens. And yeah it was a 25mm pulled off a ZSU
A conventional military would never think using an autocannon like this makes sense, but its probably because they don't think they will ever be fighting this sort of prolonged urban warfare that was basically the norm in places like Syria.
Since you are stuck in a relatively small area skirmishing for long periods of time and provided a few of you can carry a piece of equipment 200m its fairly viable to carry it through all the blown up buildings, bring it into place fire off 50 rounds at enemy positions from basically behind a wall there is a hole punched in and then move again.
By Russian doctrine this is actually an incredibly ordinary design. Many of their vehicles have or had autocannon turrets, including the MT-LB itself.
Recycling cannons in such a manner really isn't too strange either, or recycling hulls by adding a new turret.
Plus this gun actually packs a punch.
I was referring to the video of the 3 or so guys firing a modified auto cannon through a wall where they all had to brace the recoil, the modified MT-LB I dunno what the purpose is still guessing light AA and probably not urban warfare
lul yeah, that is true, but let them have their fun. Definitely not meant to be used indoors like that.
Do you remember the guys in the video seeming to be pleased with the results ? That is what is giving birth to this frankenvehicle, the guys doing the fighting know what they need.
Now you don't need a hole punched in wall, radio "the sledgehammer" it rolls up, and puts 100 rounds into the building you identify, then shift fire to the next one you identify.
Suddenly you aren't stuck in urban skirmish anymore. Cost the regular Russian army nothing. Wagner can have as many of these as they can weld up. Do you think any of the Wagner guys know how to weld ?
I mean it would work provided you have a preferably fairly long line of sight on what you want to shoot at, or have a lot of support where your infantry are actually forward of this thing and you bring it up do the equivalent of a magdump on an occupied building and withdraw.
All the shit I read/watch about gunfighting seems to indicate that clearing buildings occupied by hostiles is the worst most dangerous thing you can do with your time as a soldier. Any device which makes it efficient and easy to shoot those hostiles without going into the building is probably worth its weight in gold. You just have to be okay losing the infrastructure I suppose.
I looked this up before and the US military doesn't actually have very proper manuals or doctrines on doing this sort of city clearing urban warfare. I think the reason being is it would be bad for your career/bad politically to admit the way you clear a city is first its going to be a bit of bloodbath no matter what and your best bet is just to blow up every building block by block as you move in.
It is possible they just try to keep those suppressed for domestic terror purposes, but I would totally believe that we don't have a policy for something so disastrous.
I need to get a stairwell in my house.
>I need to get a stairwell on my house
I never sleep on the first floor of a building, just doesn't feel safe knowing some random nagger or cryptid could step in a first-floor window.
>Actual briars planted in front of every window
>Large concrete "planting boxes" placed in the right position in front of doors to prevent breaching
>An actually decent door that opens outwards
>Take a sheet of plywood and send a bunch of nails through it. Dare them to step on your spiked plywood pieces. These are better when placed in dark areas, around corners, in thin strips (people in bear area will basically do this, bears don't like stepping on nail beds and people don't either)
There is no good tactical way to clear a stairwell. None. The very best way is to go outside, get on the radio, call up an F-18 Super Hornet and drop a 500 lb JDAM on this bitch and level the place, now your stairwell is clear.
For an American example of this and consider how not well armed the Iraqi insurgents would have been relative to even in Syria and the relatively high number of American casualties despite having such an advantage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Fallujah
>take anything you want
this is a very fitting song actually
it’s hilarious you’re saying this is a game changing wunderwaffe
Would be even more hilarious if it turns out to be true.
>the Butcher of Bakhmut
IT IZ A WEAPON PLATFORM TO KRUMP HOHOL GROTZ, NOT TO WUNDER SOME WAFFLES, YA GIT
This 25 mm ork wagon will be excellent defense against ukies in humvees bumrushing on the flanks.
Best 40k faction
And some retards in CIA decided to push the narrative of ''Ruzzia is evil orcs >:C"
what is that, and how heavy is it? looks like a solid chunk of steel.
It's totally futile dude. There is nothing that can stop the Jesus revolution
Do peyote seriously not see the turret is behind the chassis, not on it? From the background it looks life a deposit of some kind
I've gotten curious.
The turret is a
>25 mm/79 (1") 2M-3
Built from 1949 to 1986, 1" caliber, 65-round belts, 470 - 480 rpm, effective range 2400 - 2800 m, total weight 1700kg.
No seriously, is everyone a bot here that doesn't see the turret is not on the chassis, but behind it?
there's another picture of them
Looks like it's on the chassis here
Why would it be a problem to weld on anyway?
>Why would it be a problem to weld on anyway?
because mounting it to the roof of the MT-LB makes it over 12 feet high (slightly taller than a Maus tank, the largest tank ever built at 11.9')
The gunner life span is going to be really short.
Also the open top design is rough in a war famous for drones dropping grenades.
Here it is in action:
No auto loader, so when the 70 round belt is empty the crew of the vehicle have to disembark and climb up on top of the roof to reload it by opening up the side panels of the turret for access.
new KV-2 just dropped
I think pic related pretty much sums it up
>Canadian flag (hohol diaspora)
>"heh, I bet you WILL get angry from THIS gore, stupid vatnik"
how many of these tanks would have turrent stop working half-way throught rotation
would a turrent even malfunction like that?
Why are Russians being such crybabies all of a sudden?
its incredible how ziggers defend this shite, yet brag about muh second army kek
we have now come to the level where russia is supposed to be advanced with this shit
>"wehhh weehhhh gib me (you)"
I SEE NOTHING WRONG
IT CAN STILL TRANSPORT PEOPLE, CROSS RIVERS AND RIP PIGGERS APART
DUMB AMERICANS THINK IT HAS TO LOOK COOL AND COST THE OVERPRICED SUM OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE EFFECTIVE