>Merchants ruin everything >Producers CHOOSE to sell to wholesalers who CHOOSE to sell to retailers who CHOOSE to sell to private individuals >bro the producer should be made to sell good directly to every ameboa on Earth directly even to their disadvantage.
As a company selling a product that is routinely scalped, it is in your best interests to figure out a way to get product into your customers hands.
In the short term, yes, your selling out of you product and you might think its great. But what it does long term is push people away from the product. The people like myself, who have impulse control and some dignity, wont buy from resalers and will eventually move on to something else that is available.
PS5 was just an example image. This applies to everything. For instance, lines of people waiting on a Target store to open to buy up all the sports cards. None of them are actually collectors, they are just buying them to flip on ebay. An actual collector who enjoys going to the store and buying packs when they get of work have no chance to do so.
This activity is a symptom of a bad economy. People are doing it to make some extra cash because they need the money (ironically, it's probably to waste it on their own price inflated hobbies)
>he doesn't know it's botters trying to replace their job income
if companies cared, they would just create a secure way to KYC on high demand items on launch. I doubt every scalper would have 50 Drivers licenses or passports ready at a moment's notice.
That’s hilarious now that you point it out. I resell stuff on eBay as a side gig pulling in about $100 a month in profit. Im not super serious about it. I just bought a WW2 knife on eBay for $130 because I think its cool
I have nothing against people buying some shit and selling it. Its the scale and mark up that make it scummy.
There are bot farms that buy up all the major sports card packs released on major retailer sites, like Walmart/Target, within seconds of posting. This is the stuff that sucks because an average collector can't just participate in the hobby. If they want some of those cards they have to pay the enormous markup or wait for years for the bottom to fall out on it.
Look at some of the limited run games. They sell out almost immediately to resellers.
There is a middle man forcing himself into these transaction. This middle man has no skin in the game like the company or the consumer. If the hobby or whatever goes under, they just move on to the next one.
If its a small volume side gig that's respectable it's the people who do this shit for a living that ruin it on a collective scale.
>retarded mutt noises
I'll let you suck my dick, it's all you're good for.
Sorry not into pedo shit.
>retarded mutt noises
It's still alive. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
It's so easy to put thirdworlders in a little npc loop like this. Look how the buck repeats like a broken record after a few token insults that live rent free in it's head now. You come in and shit up the thread with your spellingfag bullshit and owned yourself into a loop lmao. You're brown and you can speak English nice. Now make some money instead of brushing up on your language skills.
it's only a problem when supply is effectively fixed: stadium showings, national parks, etc.
only way to fix it is with a law.
gaymen bullshit like a PS5 is just a matter of waiting for supply to kick in.
>gaymen bullshit like a PS5 is just a matter of waiting for supply to kick in.
Problem is people don't just sit around for +6 months waiting for the day they are finally allowed to buy a system. I went and bought a Series S with gamepass and have been playing the shit out of it. Now I am not even looking to buy a PS5. I would have never bought the xbox if I could have had a reasonable chance at getting a PS5.
There are other hobbies I have wanted to get into, but due to resalers making them nearly inaccessible, I moved on to other things. That's the problem companies have to worry about with resalers. It drives away long term customers.
>Even then what's the point of Xbox
Gaming is not my top priority in life.I dont want to spend the money for a gaming rig nor pay for overpriced GPUs (Once again, fucking resellers). I got Series S during the holidays, brand new, for $200. This plus gamepass is about the best gaming deal in the history of video games. I don't buy every system because I must play le exclusives either. That shit is dumb and is literally only done to create more FOMO and make low impulse control people empty their wallets. How do people even play all the games on 3-4 systems at the same time?
>Even then what's the point of Xbox when you can get exactly the same offerings on PC
Not everyone has a gaming PC, retarded piece of shit. Kill yourself now, mutt.
I hear the newer consoles are getting worse in this regard, but with the last console I owned (ps3) it was a much nicer user experience than PC gaming. Just put the disc in and play. No compatibility problems to check, no having to install 30 internet-required DRM programs to launch a single player game. It just werked.
That's fair and at least PS3 had some decent exclusives. I just don't see the point with the latest consoles other than a network effect with your friends. But even that's basically disappeared with the whole shift towards being able to play the same game simultaneously on different systems.
Bigger nagger, and a third world bullied autist apparently. Imagine going for the same insult twice in one thread you mental midget. Probably a resellerfag too.
>t. Poorfag who can't afford a PC in whatever flip / sea / pajeet shithole you come from.
Thanks for contributing to the thread and letting us all know how poor you areyou shitlipped child.
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>retarded mutt noises
It's still alive. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
7 days ago
Anonymous
You're a retarded piece of shit. I hope you get cancer. 🙂
Resellers like this only exist because the the original producer is mispricing the product. The market price where supply meets demand is higher than what the original retailer is selling for, which naturally results in others taking advantage. So the original retailers should simply start charging more, until being a reseller is no longer viable.
No, shits already too high due to inflation and stagnant wages. Its not that the demand is so high it warrants those prices. Its like the house flipping fad that has jacked up house prices and made such a mess. People get sold some get rich quick bullshit and decide they are going to flip houses like everyone else. Now small communities are having all their homes bought up by flippers who really dont know what there doing. Affordable houses are purchased, then "renovated" with a lot of unnecessary upgrades that drives the cost of the house way up. Now the available pool of affordable houses for younger, lower income, people is almost non existent. A lot of these houses cant sell now because their value has been increased beyond what the land value allows for in an area. This all eventually goes bust, but it drives the price up regardless. People need houses, so they end up buying overpriced houses anyway.
hobbies are a little different, but most people dont have impulse control anymore and cant help but pay these astronomical prices because they have to get what they want, and get it right now. Look at micro transactions in gaming. People generally hate that shit and bitch every time a new way to rape is invented, yet they throw money at it anyway.
You have little understanding of economics. House prices go up because government and central banks pervert the market. They create inflation (defined by expansion of money supply and credit, aka QE and artificially low interest rates) which results in prices going up. People buy homes based on how much of a monthly payment they can afford. When rates are held lower, people can buy higher-priced homes without the monthly payments going up by much if any. Governments pervert the housing market even more by running programs that guarantee lenders get their money paid back regardless of the low credit worthiness of the buyers (increasing demand) and zoning and code compliance laws (restricting supply). You're blaming a free market, which hasn't existed here for a long time, for a problem created by central planners.
Are you retarded? Of course there are other things that effect housing prices. Government is one of many. You sound like one of those mentally challenged people who think unbridled capitalism would be heaven for us all.
There are other factors that affect prices, of course. But you brought up housing, which has its price primarily driven up by government. Resellers or market manipulators have finite resources and can only drive up prices to a limited extent and for a limited time, unless the government is there to keep fuelling the fire.
Also, resellers fuck up what's available to buy at stores and you can't control quality issues with the product as easily. Sucks if you are holding a resellers bags depending on the product you buy. Could be well past warranty date etc. Because resellers don't actually use the shit they are selling there is no testing of products "in the field." Which really sucks for some highly quality dependent goods.
Just don't buy it there? I've seen PS5 at a good price in other local retail stores. Just search more OP.
Or get more money by trading in memecoins (PEEPO) like the rest of the good bizmen and spend it on stupid shit like this, your pick
>Merchants ruin everything
>Producers CHOOSE to sell to wholesalers who CHOOSE to sell to retailers who CHOOSE to sell to private individuals
>bro the producer should be made to sell good directly to every ameboa on Earth directly even to their disadvantage.
Fuck off.
>5k for no gamez
Low effort bait thread, you can go into any best buy and buy a ps5 retail now.
ya i dont get it. i saw one in my local walmart the other day for $650 cdn
As a company selling a product that is routinely scalped, it is in your best interests to figure out a way to get product into your customers hands.
In the short term, yes, your selling out of you product and you might think its great. But what it does long term is push people away from the product. The people like myself, who have impulse control and some dignity, wont buy from resalers and will eventually move on to something else that is available.
PS5 was just an example image. This applies to everything. For instance, lines of people waiting on a Target store to open to buy up all the sports cards. None of them are actually collectors, they are just buying them to flip on ebay. An actual collector who enjoys going to the store and buying packs when they get of work have no chance to do so.
This activity is a symptom of a bad economy. People are doing it to make some extra cash because they need the money (ironically, it's probably to waste it on their own price inflated hobbies)
>he doesn't know it's botters trying to replace their job income
if companies cared, they would just create a secure way to KYC on high demand items on launch. I doubt every scalper would have 50 Drivers licenses or passports ready at a moment's notice.
That’s hilarious now that you point it out. I resell stuff on eBay as a side gig pulling in about $100 a month in profit. Im not super serious about it. I just bought a WW2 knife on eBay for $130 because I think its cool
I have nothing against people buying some shit and selling it. Its the scale and mark up that make it scummy.
There are bot farms that buy up all the major sports card packs released on major retailer sites, like Walmart/Target, within seconds of posting. This is the stuff that sucks because an average collector can't just participate in the hobby. If they want some of those cards they have to pay the enormous markup or wait for years for the bottom to fall out on it.
Look at some of the limited run games. They sell out almost immediately to resellers.
There is a middle man forcing himself into these transaction. This middle man has no skin in the game like the company or the consumer. If the hobby or whatever goes under, they just move on to the next one.
If its a small volume side gig that's respectable it's the people who do this shit for a living that ruin it on a collective scale.
Sorry not into pedo shit.
It's so easy to put thirdworlders in a little npc loop like this. Look how the buck repeats like a broken record after a few token insults that live rent free in it's head now. You come in and shit up the thread with your spellingfag bullshit and owned yourself into a loop lmao. You're brown and you can speak English nice. Now make some money instead of brushing up on your language skills.
>retarded mutt noises
You think I'm reading that? I shit on you and your country.
You gonna respond to this reply twice as well you nagger? So easy.
>retarded mutt noises
You're a retarded piece of shit. I hope you get cancer. 🙂
I think they know man. They (used to/still?) sell consoles at a loss to get the % fee from every game sold on the primary market
resalers are based
consoomers need to be made paypigs for their disgusting behavior
it's only a problem when supply is effectively fixed: stadium showings, national parks, etc.
only way to fix it is with a law.
gaymen bullshit like a PS5 is just a matter of waiting for supply to kick in.
>gaymen bullshit like a PS5 is just a matter of waiting for supply to kick in.
Problem is people don't just sit around for +6 months waiting for the day they are finally allowed to buy a system. I went and bought a Series S with gamepass and have been playing the shit out of it. Now I am not even looking to buy a PS5. I would have never bought the xbox if I could have had a reasonable chance at getting a PS5.
There are other hobbies I have wanted to get into, but due to resalers making them nearly inaccessible, I moved on to other things. That's the problem companies have to worry about with resalers. It drives away long term customers.
Even then what's the point of Xbox when you can get exactly the same offerings on PC. Where are the exclusive games anymore?
>Even then what's the point of Xbox
Gaming is not my top priority in life.I dont want to spend the money for a gaming rig nor pay for overpriced GPUs (Once again, fucking resellers). I got Series S during the holidays, brand new, for $200. This plus gamepass is about the best gaming deal in the history of video games. I don't buy every system because I must play le exclusives either. That shit is dumb and is literally only done to create more FOMO and make low impulse control people empty their wallets. How do people even play all the games on 3-4 systems at the same time?
>Even then what's the point of Xbox when you can get exactly the same offerings on PC
Not everyone has a gaming PC, retarded piece of shit. Kill yourself now, mutt.
I hear the newer consoles are getting worse in this regard, but with the last console I owned (ps3) it was a much nicer user experience than PC gaming. Just put the disc in and play. No compatibility problems to check, no having to install 30 internet-required DRM programs to launch a single player game. It just werked.
That's fair and at least PS3 had some decent exclusives. I just don't see the point with the latest consoles other than a network effect with your friends. But even that's basically disappeared with the whole shift towards being able to play the same game simultaneously on different systems.
>Resalers
Stay in school, retarded amerimutt.
Hi 1pbtid homosexual moron spelling expert. Resellers are indeed sa ign of a terrible economy. You bigger nagger retard.
Kill yourself amerimutt.
Bigger nagger, and a third world bullied autist apparently. Imagine going for the same insult twice in one thread you mental midget. Probably a resellerfag too.
>retarded mutt noises
Why hasn't this thing killed itself yet?
>t. Poorfag who can't afford a PC in whatever flip / sea / pajeet shithole you come from.
Thanks for contributing to the thread and letting us all know how poor you areyou shitlipped child.
>retarded mutt noises
It's still alive. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
You're a retarded piece of shit. I hope you get cancer. 🙂
>retarded mutt noises
I'll let you suck my dick, it's all you're good for.
Companies don't need to fix it, they're ran by billionaires and you're sitting here posting low effort anecdotal threads for free
Resaler, is that the PC way of saying scalper? Or piece of shit?
Resellers like this only exist because the the original producer is mispricing the product. The market price where supply meets demand is higher than what the original retailer is selling for, which naturally results in others taking advantage. So the original retailers should simply start charging more, until being a reseller is no longer viable.
No, shits already too high due to inflation and stagnant wages. Its not that the demand is so high it warrants those prices. Its like the house flipping fad that has jacked up house prices and made such a mess. People get sold some get rich quick bullshit and decide they are going to flip houses like everyone else. Now small communities are having all their homes bought up by flippers who really dont know what there doing. Affordable houses are purchased, then "renovated" with a lot of unnecessary upgrades that drives the cost of the house way up. Now the available pool of affordable houses for younger, lower income, people is almost non existent. A lot of these houses cant sell now because their value has been increased beyond what the land value allows for in an area. This all eventually goes bust, but it drives the price up regardless. People need houses, so they end up buying overpriced houses anyway.
hobbies are a little different, but most people dont have impulse control anymore and cant help but pay these astronomical prices because they have to get what they want, and get it right now. Look at micro transactions in gaming. People generally hate that shit and bitch every time a new way to rape is invented, yet they throw money at it anyway.
You have little understanding of economics. House prices go up because government and central banks pervert the market. They create inflation (defined by expansion of money supply and credit, aka QE and artificially low interest rates) which results in prices going up. People buy homes based on how much of a monthly payment they can afford. When rates are held lower, people can buy higher-priced homes without the monthly payments going up by much if any. Governments pervert the housing market even more by running programs that guarantee lenders get their money paid back regardless of the low credit worthiness of the buyers (increasing demand) and zoning and code compliance laws (restricting supply). You're blaming a free market, which hasn't existed here for a long time, for a problem created by central planners.
Are you retarded? Of course there are other things that effect housing prices. Government is one of many. You sound like one of those mentally challenged people who think unbridled capitalism would be heaven for us all.
There are other factors that affect prices, of course. But you brought up housing, which has its price primarily driven up by government. Resellers or market manipulators have finite resources and can only drive up prices to a limited extent and for a limited time, unless the government is there to keep fuelling the fire.
Scalper Chads exist because Consoomer Cucks will pay it.
Same reason women are whores, because simps chase after them anyway.
Raise retail prices to something that accurately reflects supply and demand.
it is a recursive self replicating problem.
the only solution to middle men
is just more middle men
selling stuff back to each otherp
Also, resellers fuck up what's available to buy at stores and you can't control quality issues with the product as easily. Sucks if you are holding a resellers bags depending on the product you buy. Could be well past warranty date etc. Because resellers don't actually use the shit they are selling there is no testing of products "in the field." Which really sucks for some highly quality dependent goods.
Just don't buy it there? I've seen PS5 at a good price in other local retail stores. Just search more OP.
Or get more money by trading in memecoins (PEEPO) like the rest of the good bizmen and spend it on stupid shit like this, your pick