So Reddit is full of 'midwits', average IQ. Hence their professing of knowledge which is actually generic shallow garbage.
Is this what you say? They're all average IQ?
So Reddit is full of 'midwits', average IQ. Hence their professing of knowledge which is actually generic shallow garbage.
Is this what you say? They're all average IQ?
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Half of the people out there have a below-average IQ.
Out there being reddit, or IRL out there?
You are your own centre of gravity, that would seem the case.
Everyone is a midwit except for me.
They have IQ about 110
Seems right to me. Thanks.
There's actual scientists on Reddit
They're the midwit ones of the industry. With their generic mainstream knowledge. They seem slim on cutting edge knowledge, or even disregard it - probably because they're too dumb to comprehend the full scope behind it.
I've seen considerably more in depth and we'll explained answers complete with sources than I've ever seen here. Most people here just expect you to believe them without sources and they're often totally wrong
I trust the occasional post from someone who knows what they're talking about here than anyone posting on reddit. Not even out of muh iq reasons, people have less of a reason to lie here.
I lie here constantly because it's funny. I don't on Reddit because people can see all my comments and I don't want to have to create another account just for shitposting. On reddit you sometimes see researchers or the owners of companies and stuff posting, like vitalik from ethereum for example often posts on Reddit. On this website it's all nobodies
Reddit is better than this anti-science board though, which is becoming a second /x/
>anti-science board
Mad people don't mindless believe in your lead eating idea?
You know you like it
/x/ was the best board
it's boring now
LULZ was unbearably stupid
but what to do, what to do?
Go to reddit if you want decent science discussion
do you have any 'subs' to recommend?
i wasn't sarcastic about the subs, i just put them in quotes so i dont get attacked by others
i dont evan have a reddit account
>anti-science
Being anti-science is a highwit position.
>t. Mathematician.
Midwit doesn't mean average IQ. Midwit means enough wit to be an obedient drone but not enough wit to be a critical thinker. 130 IQ is often midwit. Most of your professors are midwits.
>midwits', average IQ
No. The definition of midwit is slightly higher than average IQ. So like the 110-120 range.
>Is this what you say? They're all average IQ?
No. Half of them are legit 90 IQ normie retards.
With some of the takes they have the average can be no higher than 90 IQ. They're too easily programmed to be conscious thinkers.
The tame shit reddit deams ban-worthy is the primary reason I hate it
the consensus is for the averagely intelligent who are unable to discern truth
This thread is missing the point. The defining characteristic of a typical midwit is a reasonably high verbal IQ (115-140), but low spatial IQ (90-110). They have the ability to create verbose abstractions on any particular topic, but they use it only to rationalize why they believe exactly what they are told. They lack the spatial awareness to evaluate their claims against reality and observe the resulting inconsistencies.
Holy fucking midwit post
Go back to fellating r/science
>high verbal low spatial
So they're israeli?
So what's a high spatial IQ (115-140) and a low verbal IQ (105-110)?
Probably unable to use the internet due to crippling autism. Or they post on LULZ.
A generally based collection of engineers, autismos, some physicists, LULZ, maybe wsb. Big on primary sources and objective data. Much more right-leaning and anti-government than your average redditards.
The smartest subreddit is unironically /wsb/ who pretend to be self-confessed retards. The other subreddits are double digit IQ smug idiots who convinced themselves that watching enough pop science and videos about Dawkins' books is enough to supplement their education.
It is probably the internet community with the highest bachelor degree dropout rates.
And the other side of reddit are fetish or degenerate sex/drug communitities...
Reddit is a conformist, consensus based website. The entire up/downvote mechanism guarantees that the most careful, consensus, mass appeal 100 IQ answer floats to the top. Heavyhanded, biased moderation skews the entire window one way too.
Compare it to LULZ. The most active threads are the most controversial ones, arguments create thread bumps. This place really is the anti-reddit.
The most accurate comment
The average IQ of predditors and all the retards on LULZ is probably about the same. The difference is that predditors are conformists and NPCs, and they enforce that conformity with a voting-system and bans.
>and they enforce that conformity with a voting-system and bans.
Oddly similar to democracies
IQ does not describe the full spectrum of intelligence. really getting sick of IQ. Plenty of High IQ people believe stupid bullshit and follow the herd like lemmings.
I think of IQ as just one facet of the broad topic of human behavioural research.
We don't have a proxy for crystalized intelligence so one for fluid is the best we can do (unless you want brag about muh credentials)
Midwits are people with above average intelligence, but not significantly above average. They are too stupid to know the limits of their own intelligence and there are so many of them that they jerk eachother off and tell eachother how smart they are and form a consensus.
redditors cant think critically
anytime theres a discussion they resort to fallacies and ad hominems
they always argue for the popular opinion with the tandpoints the media tells them to
a popular example is male mental health decline
>they should be able to talk about their problems it would fix EVERYTHING
even though the issue obviously far more complex and a result of societal changes in the past century
On declining population numbers in developed economies:
>cost of living to high durr
disregarding the fact that poorer people have more children as do poorer nations.
That and they put ALL women on a pedestal.
I remember years ago I made an account and was having a discussion about something somewhere and the other redditard failed to produce any argument and he went "Youre wrong, Im a moderator on the science board I know what Im talking about!!!" so I just replied saying "appeal to authority, you have no arguments"
then I got banned
the entire website is a massive brainwashing hub
I occasionally browse to remind myself of how incredibly dumb people are
Midwits are the 100-120 IQ range, not the 90-110 one. Those below 100 IQ are completely disregardable as actors of relevance/importance when it comes to most topics outside such of physical prowess.
But yes, Reddit is such a midwit gathering place because it's the perfect format to reward each other for milquetoast generally-adequately-educated, logical-thinking-shallow with dopamine hits.
Guys how do I know if I am a midwit and cope?
None because I'm heckin based like the LULZners told me to on the interwebs
Sub 100iq then
Reddit has only increased my contempt for humanity. If you told me that Humanity would go extinct within the next hundred years it wouldn't make me happy, but it wouldn't make me sad either. You may as well be talking about a species of ants.
Much as I despise the stupid cunts who infest this board at the least they are honest stupid cunts.
From the person who actually coined the term:
>Midwits are individuals of above average intelligence, yet not too far from average. Essentially people smart enough to think about ideas, reason through them to some degree and feel confident, or more accurately, over confident and then cause damage.
There are higher quality posts on reddit and many of the people have their credentials confirmed, so I know it's coming from someone with a reputation they built over time and not some cheeto crusted LULZ incel who failed high school algebra but still has endless contrarian opinions on hundreds of scientific topics.
Observe how the midwit solely thinks in matters of the exchange of pieces of educational trivia, such as such you learn in a sociology or chemistry course. The midwit cannot conceive of a way how a text can stand on its own feet, without any ties to external authorities (besides the acceptance of the most basic axioms in math and philosophy) -- namely, by making use of logic and inference.
Of course, the midwit also points to social factors playing a role, but that dynamic is a constant among the sub-115 IQ populace.
Knowledge acquisition doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's a social activity. It takes many brains to sift through bullshit to reach the truth, or something close to the truth. This is what scientific theories, such as evolution or quantum mechanics, are. A decades, centuries, millennia sifting of bullshit to reach some glimmer of truth. Your retarded contrarian opinion is literally fucking worthless. I'm sorry if it makes you feel bad.
The issue is that your schema fails once those bright LULZ minds use the tools I mentioned *but* also the data from the sources you respect, and essentially construct a trap -- or let's use more appropriate lingo here -- a noose for you to hang yourself with.
Of course, the big such current contrarian issue is the effectiveness/danger about the mRNA vaxx, where the contrarian cheeto-posters use the data the authoritative side provides, plus logic and refusal to bow to doublethink and group pressure, and arrive at conclusions that are far closer to the truth and far less driven either by managerial/logistical interests (ruling class), profit interests (corporations), or emotional hysteria (the unwashed, bleating masses and their MSM shepherds).
I am not saying the cheeto posters are always right, or the mainstream sources always wrong. That is ridiculous -- it would be ridiculous if you thought of my post in such a simplistic strawman way. But do you see how someone that has literally nothing to lose, no position in a power hierarchy relevant to a topic, no particular social interests or status revolving around the topic, and is in general a low agreeableness, rebellious, cocky, INTx high intelligence type -- do you see how such a person would more readily arrive at the objective truth?
Do you think the though revolutionaries of yesteryear were the most orthodox, inoffensive, well-adjusted maintainers of a "prudent" approach to the current methodologies and dogmas?
You have never worked in a scientific field or worked on a single paper. You're a lazy arrogant piece of human trash who feels like he deserves respect and his opinions matter because you thousands of them. Name (1) fucking thing you've worked on in the real world.
I can smell the chemicals on you through the screen. You reek of piss. Did you mix together some ammonia for your last (in relevance equivalent to a high school project) lab work? Go swirl some beakers, LARPing your entire line of work hasn't become replaced by chemical-mixing machines.
You have never worked in a STEM field and never will. Why do you even come here? It's not like you actually care.
Are ... are you implying working in the STEM field is some badge of honor a lowly cheeto poster could never ever hope to achieve? I literally am a programmer who has studied CS and philosophy. In my country (Switzerland), CS includes complex analysis, so I know I intellectually BTFO you out of the water by that tiny empiric detail alone.
Yes. If you don't work in STEM your opinion is worthless.
>do you see how such a person would more readily arrive at the objective truth?
I would be worried of overconfidence above all. Empirically, I observe that people who think of themselves as rebellious cocky outsiders with high intelligence, these people tend to fall for apophenia, conspiracy theories.
>Do you think the though revolutionaries of yesteryear were the most orthodox, inoffensive, well-adjusted maintainers of a "prudent" approach to the current methodologies and dogmas?
It is interesting to look at previous geniuses, however it is just as wrong to describe them as orthodox and inoffensive, than it is to paint them as fringe outsiders with an attitude and nothing to lose.
People who have made the most progress have almost never been outsiders with low status. They engaged with the community, and they were recognized through their work.
Far from the lone wolf LULZ poster who thinks they alone know the truth, against the mediocrity of academia. Revolutionaries have, in fact, almost always been academics.
You're just a lazy piece of trash who wants to be taken seriously without doing any work.
The problem with this board is that threads are only occasionally moderated and most posts aren't at all. So your "cheeto crusted LULZ incel who failed high school algebra but still has endless contrarian opinions on hundreds of scientific topics" can run amok without restraint, day in and day out..
If someone wanted to argue flat earth in good faith, to make a point about the burden of proof and the tendency of normies to unquestionably accept any science as given fact, then that would be fine imo, there would still be some discussion value concerning the nature of science. But what happens at the moment in such a thread is just outright trolling, baiting and derailment, topped off by a thousand posts of sheer ramblings by mentally ill fuckwits who can not be reasoned with. There is no discussion value, or what discussion value does exist is quickly buried under endless outpouring by schizo who have never better to do. These fucks spread out and infect all threads.
To solve this however would require at least half a dozen impartial and educated jannies patrolling LULZ 24/7. Anyone qualified to do so isn't going to waste their time putting out countless bush fires since banning fuckwits is pointless in the day and age of VPNs and dynamic IPs
As such LULZ must always be considered simply as entertainment value for the most part. I browse it occasionally to see if any outliers have interesting ideas, no matter how fanciful or non-mainstream, but for discussion value you can usually only count on the first few posts, if any at all, before the schizos coming sniffing around and start shitting all over it. Other than that you can just amuse yourself here by mocking the retards who mess this place up, but even that wears thin very quickly.
Probably the greatest value of LULZ lies its value to young learners. Show them this place and they quickly understand that a huge number of people are stupid, insane, and incompetent. Its a good lesson.
I think I need to stop coming here and to LULZ in general. I am so out of touch with the current user base and all the boards I used to enjoy are infected by schizos and non-stem people. There is no value or standards anywhere here anymore. The shitposting was at least ironic previously, now there are actual schizos here that you'd previously only find on Godlikeproductions or the david icke forum.
Wise move, but although I am critical of LULZ, and particularly of LULZ I have two reasons for continuing to visit.
1) As I said before, for exposure to ( rational ) outliers. Rarely, but it does happen. Unless you have specialized in a particular field its very unlikely you would encounter them otherwise. People with extremely unorthodox, yet rational, opinions and viewpoints, who otherwise fly completely under the radar. When someone gets called a crank or is vilified for their ideas I am always interested in what they have to say. I can make my own mind up after I have heard or read what they have to say.
2) The stark uncensored honesty, even at its worse, is sometimes a refreshing change from the claustrophobic correctness of other forums.
I think the trick is to scan this place quickly, occasionally, but not to linger, and certainly not to enter into "debate" with contrarians who seek attention rather than understanding.
And yet, here you are...
To shitpost.
And you're the reason this board is so bad.
But I thought the board wasn't bad?
Frankly, I am intrigued. Obviously, my IQ isn't 149; going 12 points lower is much closer to the truth. This tool mostly estimates richness of expression, complexity of sentence structure, eccentricity/distance from the 100 'IQ' norm. Naturally, the points it gives should be regarded as this, rather than pointing to IQ directly (of course the two are strongly linked, but it's no replacement for a real test).
But I am impressed how accurately this estimator recognized that I love to use colorful, varied language and winding, veering sentence structures.
I've had it go all the way between calling be retarded and scoring me above 150.
I'm sorry, but your opinion does not matter to me because you don't work in STEM.
I'm sorry, but I just can't do it, I can't respect people who don't work in STEM.
The plurality confounding factors would be indicative of a discrepancy of immense magnitude. In order to mitigate such a discrepancy, one would need to first ascertain which factor was the cause of such aberrations. Having established the cause you can employ the relevant methods to control for such a factor.
Yeah this.
I sometimes dumb my language down for the retards on LULZ, or just because I'm too lazy, or you can use High English and boost your "IQ" score on that algorithm by 100 points.
One is low effort, as pertinent with the general intellectual capacity of this ethereal convocation, the other requires a cognitive prerequisite being engaged, most times an enterprise unmerited for its causatum.
>Is this what you say? They're all average IQ?
I don't visit Reddit.
is this even possible?
doesnt 10 iq make you a literal nonfunctional blabbering retard?
>baitcastermaster
>reddit
Even 70 is noticeable mental retardation. It's hard to read and write about complicated topics like microcephaly and fetal alcohol syndrome with 70 IQ.
Flowers for Algernon is a 'fun' read.
LULZ, truly a pinnacle of mental health that never radicalised anyone in any weird cults and also not disgusting and pitiful at all