Reality check, it's not possible to date without dating apps in the modern world. Tinder is real life, if you can't land a date on Tinder, it's over for you.
Reality check, it's not possible to date without dating apps in the modern world. Tinder is real life, if you can't land a date on Tinder, it's over for you.
Yeah, I've been encouraged to try to meet women by getting hobbies and this is pretty much my experience. Thought maybe I just had very male-brained interests.
I love Tinder. My
wife met her BULL on that app
Damn your BULL is hot! He makes your wife happy.
This person is part of the problem, because they believe that "third spaces" were the answer.
The real issue is the elimination of the workplace as the "second space". A simply GIGANTIC number of relationships used to arise in the workplace. Even in eras that are thought of as having low female employment, a large number of women entered the workforce BRIEFLY in their youths, and met their spouse there.
The people who used to meet their spouse in the workplace were not and are not equipped, socially or psychologically, to meet romantic partners elsewhere. Destroying the social aspect of the workplace didn't drive those people to "third spaces" because those people never had any intention of going to "third spaces" to monkey dance for mates, and when you took the workplace away from them they just opted out entirely.
Asking women at work out is not feasible anymore because the consequences can be pretty bad
Right. That was my point.
And whose fault is that? Whose doing is that?
Women are. This is the arrangement of the world the way women wanted. Starve high earning high IQ ugly short men for affection while having endless wild turdsex scat ass licking dickcheese chewing sex with tall handsome abusechad when love and sex matter in the teens and early 20s, and then if you can't lock down aforementioned tall hadnsome abusechad you eventually easily get one of these suicidally starved for affection ugly short high earning guys as a consolation marriage later in life. Simple as.
Dude women are just totally heckin SICK of being raped and beaten by scrotes, I mean that's why we are forced to shit test beta men when first meeting because we are so scared and creeped out and need to make sure you won't kill or rape us. Its actually unbelievable how many death threats I got from my last bf just cuz I was seeing someone else behind his back. This is also why we women have to hide some things from you violent scrotal sacks, be better men!
>just cuz I was seeing someone else behind his back
lmao this has to be bait
I know right? My incel ex boyfriend abused me just because I lightly punched him for enslaving me and making me take the laundry out of the washer and put it in the dryer and vacuum while he goes to work.
Reality check.
Touch grass.
Go outside.
Talk to women.
Consent is implied.
>It is beginning. The final battle.
This. Our parents all met on tinder, trust me. Tinder has almost a million users.
Maybe if there were actually places to go ad everything wasn't a strip mall or a parking lot...
>be low IQ
>only know about parking lots
Beautiful. So glad that certain types of people arent having any kids.
retards are still having plenty of kids you smug retarded homosexual
Lol no they arent. We have millions of high tech GPS maps out there and these retards only learned about parking lots so far. They have no clue how to meet women or how to have sex
lol no chud there are plenty of places to go like a nightclub where everyone is drunk/high and the music is so loud you cant even speak to the person next to you
>mfw someone actually thinks its hard to talk to people in nightclubs
Its OVER. Society was right about sexless buffoons.
I have been to nightclubs and it is hard to talk to people in them.
It's hard to talk to the people you CAME with, let alone the other people there.
Maybe if you stand right in front of the speakers. Is it autism? How do you think people order drinks in a club, boss?
>health conscious white knight
Oof!
>How do you think people order drinks in a club, boss?
When I have had to order a drink in a nightclub, it has involved shouting at the bartender when he's three feet away from me.
No bro, we are on autism time now, you cant speak to anyone in a club. There is music.
>No bro, we are on autism time now, you cant speak to anyone in a club. There is music.
My interaction with the bartender can't really be called a "conversation".
Being able to get him to understand "Ketel One and tonic with lime" when I shout it - twice - does not imply that it's possible to have a conversation in a nightclub.
Thats nice. Maybe a sewage pipe is more your speed, bud.
You are strangely overinvested in this "People routinely stage the Lincoln-Douglas debates and Richard III in loud nightclubs, bro" line of argument you've adopted.
Bet!
Anyway are you somehow still single?
>Anyway are you somehow still single?
No. But I didn't meet my partner in a nightclub, because in order to meet her it was necessary for me to talk to her.
bet! fr shinugle my bugle fo sho hugungle my nigga fungle.
Nobody is buying your shtick retard.
And thats a good thing. If there are people who somehow dont know where to meet women, they almost certainly deserve to be loveless.
>If there are people who somehow dont know where to meet women, they almost certainly deserve to be loveless.
The only thing that worked was sitting on a dating app for several months until I could convince a girl to meet up for a date. I got less than 20 matches.
I tried most of the normie advice.
>volunteering
I volunteered as a tutor for 2 years
>college
graduated college a khv
>work
not really possible these days
Where are we supposed to meet women?
You can meet women anywhere. They love to meet men at work, at the gym, in a dark alley, or at a funeral. Of course I am using the woman speak meaning of man which really just means "Chad". Men go where women are and women go where Chad is, so if women find you at all sexually attractive, they will appear where you are.
This has nothing to do with places but everything to do with your physical appearance.
This. If it wasnt about physical appearance then our dads would have never been sexually attractive to women.
blah blah blah tries to step around the fact he's been assblasted and literally had his face shitted and farted for being a retard.
keep coping moron. you've already been called out. there's no saving face for you.
There is literally someone in the OP that thinks its hard to find a girlfriend.
In 2023. How do you even defend someone so clueless?
bro please stop,you arent chad because your fat roastie GF gives you pity sex once a month,stop coming here to feel better about yourself its not healthy
>normalfags think being on a shouting match with someone hearing 1 of every 10 words they say is a conversation
If your voice is somehow upwards of 120 decibels good for you but the rest of us speak normally
I actually kind of envy guys who do this solo. I can't imagine going to a meet up event on my own. I'm mid 30s too.
Same. I wish I could just muster up the courage to find fellow lonely male friends. Everyone leaves online
These people arent genuinely interested in anything. They simply have a lifestyle that rewards screen time. He wrote an essay on Reddit and even talked about dating apps. These are the people my parents warned me about when I was growing up, and they are the same people everyone makes fun of in the real world. Yeah maybe its a large number of them, but they are still shit and its a good thing somebody brainwashed them all to leave us alone. You might as well write an essay on how jobs dont exist or that food is running out in the western world. Our parents had their own gardens!!!
He's right, still. If he wrote an essay about how there are no jobs, it would be objectively false but him saying OLD is the only way is actually quite accurate because the stats concord with that
The stats say only 2% of single men meet a woman directly from a dating app. The Stanford survey (done online) misleadingly states that 40% of recent couples met online but if you read rosenbergs publications almost all of those 40% are either gay or talking about social networks/group chats. OLD is only popular with LGBT, which is arguably a big population now. Fortunately, I can prove you wrong ten thousand times every day by just going outside where people hang out. Maybe unfortunately for some people, they will never learn.
>The Stanford survey (done online) misleadingly states that 40% of recent couples met online but if you read rosenbergs publications almost all of those 40% are either gay or talking about social networks/group chats.
You can't simply recategorize the Stanford results because you think another work implies that they "must" have secretly arisen from another source.
It also doesn't say "recent" couples. It says couples. That means that trailing data from middle-aged people is included in the data, skewing it away from current results.
>I dont know how to read or understand surveys
Thats alright, because real world experience can show you what you need to know.
>You can't simply recategorize the Stanford results
NTA, you are truly retarded arent you? Figures since we are on LULZ after all.
Here let me try to explain it in retard terms.
>Be you
>Goto a Black populated Area
>Survey them about Black rights
>Survey states majority of people are for Black rights
>Be you
>Goto Redneck Hillbilly MAGA Area
>Survey them about Black rights
>Survey states majority of people are for not for Black rights
See how easy it is these studies are skewed? Use some critical thinking retard. I swear everytime an IQ thread pops up and everyone claims 130 i laugh because majority of the idiots ive argued with here seems 80-90 range.
You fucking drooling retard, you might want to stay on the sidelines here because you have absolutely no idea what's even being discussed.
That other anon referred to a well-known and somewhat notorious study that purported to show that 40% of couples met online.
He then tried to argue that study didn't mean what it purported to mean because he had seen in a DIFFERENT paper the claim that "meeting online" could take different forms, so he grabbed from THAT paper a number (2%) that he might as well have pulled from his ass.
At no point in the process did the question of sample composition, survey method, or question bias arise. So your little display of gibberish had nothing to do with the topic under discussion.
Please just shut your fucking retard mouth.
>different paper
Not a different paper. Rosenberg clarified in subsequent papers but its the exact same survey. His survey showed only 2% of single heterosexual men are meeting a woman online. This number is also repeated in that big British survey.
>survey method
I said it was an online survey, which is biased for people who would participate in online surveys. Let alone the over sampling of gay people who predominantly and disproportionately benefit from OLD. Now its funny that we went from 100% to even meme 40% and you are still saying OLD matters to people, but thats alright. None of you will ever admit to how few DAU are on tinder by country or okcupid, because none of you understand statistics or technology. Youre going to still believe the 50% divorce number ten years from now.
Fucking christ I hate you midwits. You think you're so much smarter than you actually are. It's painful to read this shit when you are actually knowledgeable.
>by just going outside
And you call him retarded about studies. Literally as a bad the NPC study.
1. That was not English, what are you trying to say
2. Citing an online survey that claims it overrepresented gay and lesbian respondents in its sample, might say something about you, but it wont help you understand social dynamics. The people who post the Stanford chart or the GSS charts are the same brand of idiocy as the people who believe in PUA and self help gurus
1. Sorry mistyped
2. Didn't read because the point of bringing up going outside to prove a statical point is not even midwit levels of stupid. You don't get to be retarded if the other guy is as well.
Now post more shit so I can not read it and continue insulting you.
The Redditor isn't making any even remotely unusual claims. Every statement in his essay is firmly in the mainstream of current US sociology. Most academic sociologists would have considered the statement "All public spaces in the US for adults have collapsed and social group membership is at an all-time low" to be too trivially obvious to be worth discussing DECADES ago at this point.
>lonely morons desperately try to prove to the world that they absolutely need to spend all day in front of a screen because there are no better options of interacting with people
>bro its just obvious and not worth discussing
Friend. I used to be just like you when I was 15. Funny you mention sociology because there is a lot of research on how people form habits and biases. There is literally nothing that will save you other than going out by force.
>bro bro bro
Man I'm suprised how low quality bait has gotten these days. Yet fuckers still fall for it.
Remember, this is the board that has people claiming to NEVER have sex. Its the dumbest of the dumb.
That's called abstinence. You know that sex isn't vital like water or air right?
>deflects the entire post
>talks about different subjecy
most people aren't interested in a hobby that builds a social circle for them retard.
regardless lots of hobbies are useless in that regard. i can't think of a hobby that actively builds a mixed gender friend group that isn't music or drugs.
Literally any normal hobby. Even if you golf with the boys you are normally getting brunch with the mixed group right afterwards.
None of that is normal advice. Trust me, society does not want you to learn where to find women. This is old money trying to get new money type shit.
>Literally any normal hobby. Even if you golf with the boys you are normally getting brunch with the mixed group right afterwards.
I dont give a fuck about other guys ive had enough guy friends
Typical roastie deflection and appeal to emotion
>sub-average men should use dating apps
This woman is so fucking oblivious to the world around her. She probably tried Tinder once and got 100 matches in a day, and she thinks that's what it's like for everyone. lmao
It's a he. He's not saying OLD is viable per se but he's saying getting extremely lucky there is your only option
>Tinder is real life
90:10 male to female ratio
>not possible to date
try not being a loser? go outside make friends(which u probably have none of) they will introduce u to girls and etc.
lol u incels are so pathetic
Why would you say 90:10 instead of 9:1? Are you mentally retarded or something?
Le fairer sex am I right? They literally wont go to social events simply because there are no Chads, I have never left a social event because it lacked a Stacy. Women are beyond the definition of a shallow human being, i cant even at this complete absence of looking at humans beyond their mask. Holy fucking shit I hate these subhuman vagina apes so much god why the fuck did I have to be straight.
You can always go gay anon. Women are not worth it and men are sexy
That's not what "fairer sex" means, you mongoloid.
what evens have you guys tried to go to?
Women are low-brain driven emotionally selfish creatures and they will be responsible for the complete break-down of the society that they value so much. It's going to be hilarious when there are tremendous social issues just because women genuinely hate men that aren't physically attractive.
Men are no better, men can rarely just be around women and be sexually neutral. Guys are always making some kind of subtle or active attempt to bang a girl that they're around. They genuinely don't know how to just be attracted to a woman and not make them feel that way.
Honestly I don't care, this species is fucking disgusting and doesn't deserve to be alive. Humans really just want to do whatever they want and show little regard for any surrounding life-forms so long as there're no repercussions
Women are garbage, men are trash.
Human beings are refuse
Male only clubs were the norm for most of history its only recently did we start letting these vagina monkeys hang with us, and because of the simp human cancer the vagina monkeys have destroyed all of our clubs except the ones by rich men. Ive noticed whenever a woman joins a male group they begin putting every fucking male into some sort of gina tingles caste system in their brain then treat each male according to their position in that pyramid, its fucking unsettling seeing this happen in no time.
>begin putting every fucking male into some sort of gina tingles caste system
I've noticed this too, it's pretty fucking fascinating.
If men were able to rise above their animal nature to solely have sex and their cultural conditioning to base their self-worth off of attractiveness to women...
It would be possible for society to function in a proper way.
Also women could just stop being whores but that's not a cultural thing, that's a biological thing.
Male self-esteem should be based on how capable you are at completing tasks, and protecting yourself and others.
The fact that many capable men feel they are worthless just because a woman doesn't want to hold their hand (suck their dick or fuck them but I'm putting it in my terms of intimacy), is a travesty.
But again
Human beings are a disgusting and destructive species. It's too engrained in society at this point to separate from. There needs to be some kind of reset.
WW3, immense terrestrial disaster, or maybe asteroid bombardment. Whatever it is, something should happen that is drastic enough to reset the ethos from what it is, to one that has a more equitable relationship with the natural world.
Humans are just animals. The fact that you expected more to begin with is the real travesty
LULZ and reddit are one in the same in 2023
But we dont treat women like they are animals, we treat them like they are people even though they really arent.
If that was true then there wouldn't be any single men. It's never been easier to find women, some guys just prefer to treat them like animals or meat.
>It's never been easier to find women
It's literally never been harder
>some guys just prefer to treat them like animals or meat.
The ones who do this are the ones who get women
This is bait a literal toddler could concoct. How are you falling for it?
>harder
For who? Retards?
Its only easy to find women if you are sexually attractive TO WOMEN.
>some guys just prefer to treat them like animals or meat
Those sorts of men reproduce the most
You don't have to be sexually attractive at all. I've even seen asian men have a girlfriend recently.
>Getting a gf means you are are sexually attractive to women
Listen you stupid fucking normie we mean ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN as in YOU FUCKING ATTRACT THEM WHILE DOING NOTHING AT ALL
I said you don't have to be attractive, learn to read. Anyone can date these days.
>Humans are just animals
>humans are the same as other animals
The neocortex, our ability to think meta-cognitively, and our ability to exhibit empathy for other living things (via our high-mirror neuron count) SHOULD put is in a category of animal that is beyond the general extant animal populations.
But hey, some people don't have a brain size that is within certain threshold, and some people don't have the same kind of brain structure as others.
That's why society is shit nowadays. A lot of people possess the forebrain, but it is not as large in relativity to the other parts of their brain.
Nice try though that was almost an argument that wasn't steeped in stupididty
>How men work
Man sees Stacy>MUH DIK IMPULSE>AMYDALA>LOVE EMOTION>MUH SOULMATE>FRONTAL LOBE>"HUH WAIT SHES NOT ALL THAT"
>How women work
>Foid sees Chad>MUH PUSSY IMPULSE>AMYDALA>MUH LUST EMOTION>HES THE PERFECT MATE FOR ME>FRONTAL LOBE>"HES THE PERFECT MATE FOR ME"
As you can see women are literally subhuman because their base impulse is not halted by the frontal lobe that is why it is impossible to reason with women because women have no reason they are machines controlled absolutely by their animal instincts
Yeah I talked about that here
>Also women could just stop being whores but that's not a cultural thing, that's a biological thing.
This is literally why AI is nothing special. We already have AI, it's called female autists.
Also I don't know if you've ever actually paid attention to body language but most men don't have much self-control around women they are sexually attracted to and are constantly making physiological advances towards women
i should find these events and go, just to find some cool niggas to ball with. i dont even want pussy, i just want some friends. once i have some cool guys i know i can start looking for pussy
Honestly these places sound great for finding friends. If you play your cards right, you'll be throwing parties with 30 guy friends and young pussy spawning in.
i just said i don't want pussy though. i want to find 3 or 4 guys to rope into airsoft and talk about my job with
>If you play your cards right, you'll be throwing parties with 30 guy friends and young pussy spawning in.
Making 30 guy friends will let you "spawn in" pussy to a party if 10 (or some other number) of those guys know young single women.
If you meet 30 guys who are so lonely and isolated that they are desperately dragging themselves to Meetups, they aren't spawning anybody in. The entire reason you met them is because they don't have any other friends and don't know any young single women.
>went to a tennis meetup for a year
>there were only a few regulars only one of who was female and married to a guy there and used to tag along
>we get close and hang out often
>few months later another girl from another country joins and becomes a regular
>everyone starts orbiting her and drama starts
Kek, it's only fun if they are 100% guaranteed to be male only tbh
Many men are indeed socially maladapted losers with nothing to offer anyone. Plus there's all the ones who make no effort except figuring out how to pretend they aren't such, without actually becoming someone better, just a better liar. The bar for men is on the fucking floor but so many still refuse to rise to meet it
>The bar for men is on the fucking floor but so many still refuse to rise to meet it
i'll bite the bait. this isn't true and you know it, anon.
Being a social loser would not be an insult if most normal men were social losers you dumbass. Let me explain it to you, women are disgusting horrible pieces of shit. They look for the lowest tier non Chads then use their traits to rationalize their hatred of non Chads. The fucking fembots here say they hate men then use us to say why they hate men instead of you know the normie men who have sex on the weekends. Why the fuck did they not think of those men? Because women are evil thats why they want to shit on non Chads in general and will not hesitate to use one loser to call 1000 normal guys losers as well. Its just more typical disgusting female behavior and nothing more.
woaaaaah based opinion alert:
[reddit spacing]
i dont care.
This explains precisely why millions of prime age men have left the work force, and why male post-primary education (which includes apprenticeships, trade schools, and other certifications) have plummeted, and why military recruitment is down to alarming levels. Men have learned that they have ZERO path to anything remotely resembling a decent life.
As a wise German philosopher once posited:
"NO PUSSY, NO WORK"
Kind of a good thing, honestly. People are finally starting to wake up to the reality of why immigration is needed.
The fact that the redditor in picrel is overanalyzing these social interactions is where the problem is, not the social events themselves. Normal people would not overthink this. They definitely wouldn't stay lingering about this long enough to write a text wall about it. Normalfags show up to the event, have fun, and go home. This is too ironic.
The cause of incels
Woman sees non Chad>MUH PUSSY IMPULSE>AMYDALA>LUST EMOTION>"HEs the PERFECT MATE FOR ME">FRONTAL LOBE>ANALYSIS OF PHYSICAL APPEARANCE>AMYDALA>DISGUST EMOTION>"EW DIE YOU SCUM!">FRONTAL LOBE>ANALYSIS OF PHYSICAL APPEARANCE>AMYDALA>DISGUST EMOTION...
Whenever a foid sees a non Chad her brain will create an infinite loop of disgust, the foid then associates the non Chad with this disgust and thus hates him irrationally though her frontal lobe will conjure up horseshit to rationalize it afterwards. Notice how the initial neural pathway was positive but once the brain analyzed the non Chads appearance it reordered the neural pathway which triggered the disgust reaction. In other words foids hate non chads because we dont cause instant tingles which is
Foid sees Chad>MUH PUSSY IMPULSE>AMYDALA>MUH LUST EMOTION>HES THE PERFECT MATE FOR ME>FRONTAL LOBE>"HES THE PERFECT MATE FOR ME"
This neural pathway
This. Incels are just dumbasses that never go outside.
You cannot read, it doesnt matter what an incel does if their very existence causes a disgust loop in the female brain.
How does it not matter if they chose to spend time alone? It just makes sense that they become incels eventually.
They spend time alone because they notice women hate them within seconds
But you're just agreeing with me. Years are longer than seconds.
being a KHHV robot neet is less pathetic than being a normalslime undesirable male who goes to fucking meetup events like dinners or whatever the fuck its sadder than speed dating even, feel proud boys that you've never crammed into a room with 37 other men who are normies yet still can't get pussy for a sit down dinner event where the two women in attendance fled almost immediately upon arrival
>a strong racial overrepresentation
kek he means indians I'll bet
Would it honestly kill you to post the link?
I know if I found you I'd kill you for not posting it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/13ol154/meetups_are_becoming_lonely_male_spaces_that/
Shame too on the rest of you that commented on this thread with out the source. Don't you care about what youre looking at, are you just here to make noise.
>50% of young men go to bars at least once a week
>less than 20% of men have an active online dating profile, and the gender ratio is even worse than any real world hobby
>bro, online dating is for average guys and not complete morons!
Lol it gets better every time when you see this shit. Who actually believes in this?
The idea of going to a meetup like this makes me want to put a bullet in my head. It sounds like the most pitiful, degrading shit.
But it's life fuel to hear about it, because it makes me glad that I'm an anti-social recluse who hates everybody, and is very happy to keep his distance from people. It sounds a hell of a lot more dignified than going to a fucking meetup for desperately lonely losers.
Most people I know just date coworkers. It's not taboo anymore. I know two people that ended up married who work at the same place. This girl at my job even moved in with her supervisor last week.
I date my friend's friends. Or just date around from people I meet in my dance crew or nightclubs. Have never used Tinder, I see no need for it.
I may at some point read all of that shit (in 5 minutes).