realistically, what can a 30-year-old man expect going on estrogen and doing nothing else?
no voice training, no makeup, no clothes, just a guy on hrt from 1 year to 5 to 10? what's the timeline?
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realistically, what can a 30-year-old man expect going on estrogen and doing nothing else?
no voice training, no makeup, no clothes, just a guy on hrt from 1 year to 5 to 10? what's the timeline?
>no clothes
Sir you can't do that, you'll get a restraining order
>high estrogen
>enlarged prostate
Makes no sense
what is high estrogen for men isn't high for women and trannies
>Estrogen hormone action in the prostate depends not only on the types of estrogens but most of all, from the type of ER. Specifically, ERα activation is associated with prostate hyperplasia, inflammation, and dysplasia (46). However, the main stimulation of inflammation in BPH by estrogens seem to be mediated by the membrane ER G protein-coupled receptor 30 (GPR30) or G protein-coupled ER (GPER), which are also expressed in prostate stromal cells (47). On the contrary, ERβ inhibits proliferation and its knockout results in prostate hyperplasia (48). The prostatic hyperplasia observed in ERβ knockout mice is attributed to the unopposed action to ERα, suggesting that the ratio ERα/ERβ is an important factor in estrogen-induced proliferation (44).
high E favorizes ERβ, low E favorizes ERα
also estrogen in levels typical for women/trannies promotes fat storage in thighs and hips instead of that hideous male pattern with comically big bellies
also men having high estrogen is usually a result or of comes with other problems that women don't have
Are you at least exercising in this scenario?
no
enlarged prostate? I thought troony prostates shrink on E.
maybe high T high E is different from low T high E.
you can expect very minimal changes, broken dick, no one other than other trooners being willing to frick you, cisoids saying shit like you’re “brave” and “beautiful” and hating the reflection in the mirror even more than you do now. Good luck!
How id=s rhis so accurate?
frick
>estrogen isn't magic
Yeah no shit, you still need luck, hard work, and a few hundy Ks for laser, ffs, etc.
>you just need a shit ton of money to change everything masc about yourself
ok so why are we even taking e then lol
Why do people exercise if diet helps you lose weight?
You don’t exercise to lose weight lol. Do you know how many calories you burn running 1 mile? 100, if you’re lucky. You can drink that back in one sitting. And you obviously aren’t running 5+ miles a day, that’s why Americans are so god damn fat.
Eating less is the only way to lose weight. You exercise to look good, not lose weight. You eat less to lose weight.
The people that lose weight and keep it off exercise as well. Also 1 mile isn't that long. 1 mile is only 5-8 minutes of running.
No I literally just eat 1500 calories per day
Appearance of skin, fat distribution, growth of toobboobs, but most of all just for improved mental wellbeing. Also estrogen can't remove fat already there so weight cycling is mandatory if you're not starting as a twig. The rest is just shaving bone and remodeling genitals.
So it makes your skin nicer but the rest you have to fix with expensive surgery. Also your dick is broke and you can’t have kids. Shit. It’s probably cheaper to buy moisturizer.
If you really need an insurance policy you can spend an additional 1-2k upfront for sperm banking (maintaining samples will be an additional few hundred per year).
And yeah transition is a lot more than just taking le magic pink pills. You should be thinking about if this is something you really want for the rest of your life, and it's probably the biggest and most taxing life project you'll ever take on. So either go all in or resign to a simpler but potentially unfulfilled life repressing.
menopausal women experience shift to android fat distribution and estrogenization shifts back to gynoid fat distribution. and you think they care about weight cycling that will make you shed hair due to telogen effluvium? once you start estrogen, it starts promoting fat storage on hips and thighs and counteracting storage on the abdomen.
Menopausal women are unlikely to have a substantial beer gut and male musculature, both of which can be reversed with weight cycling (+ protein reduction in the latter case, temporary vegan diets helpful here lel). If you aren't overweight to start and don't have developed muscles then these aren't a big deal tho.
Elevated estrogen + male range testosterone =/= female range estrogen + suppressed testosterone
You have to think of estrogen as laying the groundwork for further changes. It's kinda how you have to pull the brakes on your car if you want to go the other direction. Without estrogen and testosterone suppression, anything else won't matter in the grand scheme of things.
The two most important things in transitioning are HRT and hair removal, these apply to pretty much anyone looking to transition and should be the first thing addressed. Take your pills, book laser sessions - you should be doing these first because they're both things that take a minimum amount of time, require overall low effort, and have by far the biggest gainst of anything else.
To answer the 'what would you expect?' part: HRT alone will completely change the texture of your skin (estrogen is actual automatic skincare, women have it easy mode), slowly change fat distribution across your body, very quickly change your body odor entirely, and comparatively lower your libido.
so what you're saying is that HRT will lay the foundation but you still have to put a ton of effort into appearing female, and if you don't do this every single day people will clock you as a weird troony?
Do you even ever leave the house though?
Honestly, just estrogen and hair removal will make you look like a pretty boy provided you're not also overweight. The issue with this approach is the breasts, of course.
If you do NOTHING else, you can end up looking anywhere inbetween a tomboy angel and an oddly soft-skinned dude, it depends on your starting point and stats.
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by 'ton of effort every day'. Most trannies here don't do makeup because they straight up don't have the energy to be doing makeup every day. Estrogen, hair removal and hair & eyebrow styling do the majority of the heavy work in the face department.
If I have blonde hair should I skip laser and go for electrolysis?
Yes, lasers aren't effective against blonde facial hair.
You can expect me to ask you to post boypussy
i don't get this flag. why is it a pineapple?
>low libido
is that somehow a bad thing?
Picrel is pretty accurate for anyone over 21
I'm pre-FFS, started at 31, am 33 now. You can expect softer skin, some booba growth, nothing major. Def get facial hair removed tho.
ive said it before ans ive said it again, please be my wife.
>t. transbian bottom
I've never heard any transbian bottom saying this before, mb they never mentioned being transbians... But, nonya, I'll say it again, find yourself a beautiful gf who lives nearby, preferably in your city, and make her happy. I'm just an old honmoder on the other side of the world.
But thanks <3
I should've transitioned when I was 14 like I wanted to I'm stopping hrt if you're 30 it's over for you goodbye
30 is far too late for any meaningful changes so it should be fine.
lol I kind of assumed this starting at 30, it didn't go that way...
How did it go? PLS explain
breast growth started in the first couple weeks and my figure changed noticeably over the six months or so, which made it hard to stick to the initial plan of trying to keep things hidden while I still lived with my parents