>r1b is the most common haplogroup in armenians
>they have zero to none steppe ancestry, even lower than arabs
how come? seems like very few group of EVROPEAN men decided to raid south caucasus and kill most churka men and replaced the paternal line.
The armenoid race is just that strong
which J is 35%?
It's probably R1b from farmers like those Iberian farmers had
>R1b from farmers like those Iberian farmers had
that went extinct in europe after steppe invaders raped the farmers
In Europe but probably not in Armenia
Armenians do have steppe ancestry though
>Armenians do have steppe ancestry though
even Iraqi Arabs have 3,4 times higher steppe ancestry than Armenians.
You can't use G25 to determine that because unlike real tools like qpAdm it doesn't prevent overfitting
German farmers had R1b too and Scandinavian farmers
It's not V88, it's Yamnaya Z2103.
Yeah but they were all wiped out
It's an ancient connection between the Armenoid phenotype (Yamnaya) and r1b. R1b is not originally European so it wasn't European men like you say.
A striking signal of steppe migration into the Southern Arc is evident in Armenia and northwest Iran where admixture with Yamnaya patrilineal descendants occurred, coinciding with their 3rd millennium BCE displacement from the steppe itself. This ancestry, pervasive across numerous sites of Armenia of ~2000-600 BCE, was diluted during the ensuing centuries to only a third of its peak value, making no further western inroads from there into any part of Anatolia, including the geographically adjacent Lake Van center of the Iron Age Kingdom of Urartu.
>evident in Armenia
>and northwest Iran
Can you compare syrians, lebanese, and iraqis?
Nice does this work for nafris and egyptians too?
surprised the egyptians have so much chg and lack iberomaurusian
They don't, it's just that his models are shit. Better to look at some real studies.
your pointless crying makes you look retarded
Egyptians having 0 Iberomarusian is pretty retarded
Iberomaurusians never lived near Egypt
IBM never reached egypt
They lived only in the maghreb
Useless overfitted """""models"""""
Yes and yes. It's about ancient samples.
>was diluted during the ensuing centuries to only a third of its peak value
Look up Khndzoresk village in Armenia
>Surprisingly, most of the villagers have been found to belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup R1b, specifically to a Western European branch of L754 > L389 > P297 > M269 > L23 > L51 > L52 > L151 > P312 > DF27 > Y3267 > Y7365 > Y28672 > Y7363 > Y41095 > Y41710 > Y42667.Closest Europeans from France. As of November 2021 the closest common ancestor of these French and Khndzoresk people lived about 1150 years ago. Origins are being explored in a Y-DNA project with the company FamilyTreeDNA.
Also they were literally living in caves.
>closest common ancestor of these French and Khndzoresk people lived about 1150 years ago.
>about 1150 years ago.
So literally soldiers from Europe came to defend Armenia against Turks and Arabs, but they ended up like this? holy kek
Can't tell if soldiers, or merchants, or maybe even catholic preachers. They could be from Cilicia which had cultural ties with Catholic Europe, so their ancestors fled to "mainland" Armenia after fall of Cillicia and ended up in Syunik.
Syunik have clearly more Steppe admixture than other parts of Armenia tho
But your scenerio makes sense, those invidual or little demogprahic changes are possible, just like that you can find Armenian/Assyrian paternalsides in Western Europe, with the same logic behind it. Armenian/Assyrian preachers, soldiers, merchants etc.
Can you try ethiopians and somalis?
i must say fit value is pretty shitty for this one, i have no idea what should i put for african populations as a source
remove mota add dinka and chg
Why do you use levantPPNB instead of natufian?
natufian is too old, using the samples of the same timeline is better for the most of the time
also changing levant_ppnb to natufian won't change too much
fit value is still 6+ when i add dinka, chg is always there, seems like calculator didn't pick it up
now remove ppnb add natufian and barcin
> Syunik have clearly more Steppe admixture than other parts of Armenia tho
That's because various Scythian tribes settled there.
This is a different thing altogether. They are clearly descendants of some Europeans. Most Armenians have Z2103, not DF27 which is of Iberian Beaker origin.
Armenian and Basque are very related especially in nature names (old rivers, mountains and similar). Even some armenian and basques look alike (especially the bump of the nose which is also common in basques).
I am pretty sure that ancient armenian and people from Caucasus IBERIA are the root for Iberians and especially basques, cantabrians, etc.
This basque with the typical basque nose bump could probably pass as armenian.
And Basques also have the most R1b....could be connection between them
Basque people have large noses because of 'dinarization', that's common among mountain folks. Montenegrins and other southern Balkanites tend to have big noses, too.
I don´t think the mountains play a role in the growing of the nose.
It could be that ancient people (armenians that arrived in ancient times in Iberia) went to live to the mountains because it was more protected from possible attacks. So the relationship is there: ancient Europeans had bumpy noses in mountain areas because they are old stock caucasus people.
>went to live to the mountains because it was more protected from possible attacks
mountain naggers are cowards.
steppes for real men while mountains for cowards.
similarly forests are for ultra cowards while plains are for real men
is it because air in mountains is rarified?
Does it matter? They are mutted up like most people in and around middle east.
What are thoughts on the godly N1G3-2R haplo group