What is the purpose of life, in your view?
I suppose this is a philosophical question so LULZ would be the right board for it.
What is the purpose of life, in your view?
I suppose this is a philosophical question so LULZ would be the right board for it.
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to abide by the role and strengths that god gave you, even if you don't like them. And, that role by itself should have a positive contribution to society. So, maybe the real purpose is to contribute something to the society you're living in. However, if you do hate your society, then it's very hard to really contribute to a society you dislike, thus hard to find any purpose in this life, which I believe the majority's feeling nowadays.
Evidence for this "god"?
Self evident: things and life exist. This was enough for every people that ever existed to worship God in the ways they found best. Its part of human nature as breathing and eating.
Only nowadays there are so many people in rebellion against common sense. Brainwashing people to ignore their natural reasoning takes a lot of propaganda. Then turns their brains to irrational mythological thinking, with beliefs like primordial soup and so on.
A straw hut man in the middle of Amazon has more common sense than any atheist.
Everything is for the sake of man. Namely for our sanctification.
Nah, every truth must have evidence, in my view, so nothing is self-evident.
E.g. the evidence for "1 + 1 = 2" is that when you put two things together, there is now a pair of things - it's not like a third thing pops into existence to make 3 things.
>This was enough for every people that ever existed to worship God in the ways they found best. Its part of human nature as breathing and eating.
Nah. Humans used to believe in witchcraft, and the four humours, etc. And also humans used to believe in Zeus, Odin, etc. Do you believe in those? Presumably not. Beliefs get deprecated. And I think Christianity is becoming deprecated.
Literally not an argument. I can just say my position is common sense. It doesn't provide any evidence or reasoning, does it?
>A straw hut man in the middle of Amazon has more common sense than any atheist.
>Nah, every truth must have evidence
I hate it when atheists say this then proceed to eat burgers and suck a guys cock.
> bro pleasure
You had no reason to do that. Muh rationality is not an argument for doing pleasurable things. Atheists think they are somehow free and yet they are the least capable of putting reason over their pleasures.
> Nah. Humans used to believe in witchcraft
Care to elaborate? Probably not. Just a memetic answer made by a botoid that explains nothing.
> humans used to believe in Zeus, Odin, etc.
> here, look how I shit on the presumably wrong beliefs of other people I totally know were wrong
I bet you don't know a thing about pagan theology.
He has less false ideas then you have for sure.
All in all, shit bait. 0/10
You cared enough to answer.
All in all, shit bait, 0/10.
Im not the guy you were arguing with just responded that because feel to sleepy and tired and idk find your post kinda dumb i guess
You got BTFO with no response lmao
>Care to elaborate?
I don't need to. Humans used to believe in witchcraft, but witchcraft is obviously false. Same with religions like Christianity.
>I bet you don't know a thing about pagan theology.
Lmao. I don't need to.
>He has less false ideas then you have for sure.
*fewer, and no that is not correct.
Shit post. No arguments detected. I accept your concession.
He's not the guy that that post was replying to, I am.
See above for how I BTFO the post I'm replying to, and therefore you as well, since you side with it.
Viktor, how is it possible that I come to this site once every 6 months and half the time I see you here regurgitating your old debunked arguments and the word-for-word exact same rhetorics as I did three years ago? It's truly amazing, I see a familiar image, read a familiar leading question, Ctrl+F "I accept your concession" and there you are.
The only thing missing is for you to get so upset you post fecal pictures again like the last time you got banned from this site.
Who the fuck is Viktor?
You can cope and seethe about the post you're replying to but it's correct.
evidence for burger and sex? what are you even talking about
>I hate it when atheists say this then proceed to eat burgers and suck a guys cock.
>Atheists think they are somehow free and yet they are the least capable of putting reason over their pleasures.
im not an abrahamist but this is based
>hate it when atheists say this then proceed to eat burgers and suck a guys cock.
Someone for the love of god tell me what this anon is trying to say lmao
I can’t eat burgers if I don’t believe in god? Is this another nearly homeless schizo on this board making weird salad and non-related associations?
he's saying that atheists present themselves as enlightened and "awaken", followers of reason and evidence, like Spock from StarTrek. But in reality they are unhealthy (i.e. burgers), ugly (i.e. piercings, tattoos, dyed hair, etc), and degenerate (i.e. anti-natalists, homos, trannies, etc). Their worldview does not match reality. Pure reason would lead to progress, beauty, health, stability, and strength, not degeneracy, ugliness, hedonism, disease, and weakness.
Anon I’m going to need you to go outside, touch grass and then start talking to people face to face. No one I know believes in god, they all dress normal, have careers, most of them are healthy and are working on relationships and family.
I drive into the sticks and Christland is absolutely packed with medicated fatsos
Health and evolution/life are some of the centre-pieces of secular morality, but ultimately atheist societies increasingly choose pleasure over either of those. It's a commentary on the divorce between ethics in theory and ethics in action. Though it sounds retarded written like that lmao
He can't actually argue against a point, but he does have a large armory of stock ad hominems that he can use against specific ideologies. Thus, anything that doesn't fit into a specific ideology has to be pigeonholed into one so that he can deploy his stock arguments against that ideology. So, yes, he is actually implying that if you disagree with him, you HAVE to be a vegan and gay, because otherwise he can't use his stock ad hominems against you.
Homosexuals ABSOLUTELY have a drive to reproduce, they just do it memetically. It's why they brag about tricking Elon Musk's kid into being a tranny. It's the same thing as Christians believing that sex is bad, but conversion is good: they're reproducing, it's just memetically.
>Homosexuals ABSOLUTELY have a drive to reproduce, they just do it memetically.
Ok in that case commercials reproduce too, wanna count that?
Correct. The point of a commercial is to spread a meme to new hosts. The fact that the meme is "you will be happy if you buy this product" is irrelevant. The meme has thus reproduced.
Reproduction is making more of something; the fag is making more fags. It does this by taking a normal person and damaging them in a specific manner. This results in a fag. Specifically, they are spreading a meme that, when accepted into a mind, causes a cascade that results in other changes ("sucking dick" results in "speaking in a certain manner (gay-voice)").
By your logic, having sex and making a baby isn't reproduction, as all you're doing is rearranging matter. Genetic reproduction is taking matter, and making a copy. Memetic reproduction is taking matter, and making a copy. The genes are in the new person, the memes are in a new person. If atoms, molecules, proteins, cells, tissues can be the matter, why can't an existing human? Where do you draw the line? Hell, how can you draw the line between a person and genes anyways, given that they're both "just atoms"?
The only real difference is whether you are interested in spreading genes or memes. One might point out that this is actually a memetic difference, and this is true. If you look at the people who are most concerned with spreading memes, they tend to have few to no kids (in fact, given that they actively try to make people have less kids, you could actually say that they have negative fertility). But then, the Jesuits, a celibate order of eunuchs, have done infinitely more to spread the meme of Catholicism than Catholic homesteaders have, even though Catholic homesteaders have 12 kids each.
you haven't reproduced just because you've had a conversation with someone and told him something and he remembers it.
For humans, the only true reproduction is passing on your genes and creating new life through sexual intercourse.
>you haven't reproduced just because you've had a conversation with someone and told him something and he remembers it.
Correct, the memes have. The human didn't, the memes did. This is why homosexuals reproduce, but not individual homosexuals. Percy F. Aggot doesn't reproduce by bumdrilling his nephew, but homosexuality does. See the difference?
>This is why homosexuals reproduce, but not individual homosexuals
i think you mean that homosexuality reproduces rather than the homosexuals themselves. I guess you are technically correct, although I dont think there's much sense in saying that an activity "reproduces". If it's homosexuality that reproduces, then why did you say that it's the homosexuals who reproduce?
i think you're overcomplicating things but i dont know why
>i think you're overcomplicating things but i dont know why
I think he is actually over-simplifying things to the concept of reproduction. He is looking at diverse phenomena and saying "both reproduce". I don't think for instance that religion, as in the case of a celibate monastic order, is driven to a more intense mimetic form of reproduction because of an absence of biological reproduction, or that these two are somehow in relation along an axis of reproduction.
>I have a drive to reproduce but I don't actually want to reproduce, I want people to think the way I think
that's not a drive to reproduce. reproduction means passing on your blood, your genes to your offspring.
Christians aren't reproducing when they convert people. They're increasing the number of christians , but a christian only reproduces when he creates a new human life through sexual intercourse.
Math isn't "real", and I mean that in a very literal sense, it's all shit that exists in your head. There is no physical material reality to the number 2, or the plus sign, or the equals sign, it's all arbritrary
Mathematics is sophist apologetics describing things that don't exist, just like religion - excepting of course the fact that normal people with common sense can observe the physical world around them and immediately and instinctually realize the truth of the number one and the One God
>Math isn't "real"
I think it's real, insofar as it's a real language that humans have invented to describe the universe.
>There is no physical material reality to the number 2
There is a physical reality to pairs of things, though.
>Mathematics is sophist apologetics describing things that don't exist
I don't agree... maths can describe the area of a real circle that is printed on a piece of paper, for example.
I know you love making this post but I still don't think that near death experiences are evidence of an afterlife.
Daily reminder that religion for almost all of human existence was and still often is about people thinking giving gifts to gods would make the gods do favors for them, and the Christian thing where god is like your dad and you need to constantly impress him with your behavior is fringe and not in line with normal human nature.
The nature was that they thought giving presents to a river goddess would heal their infection and they were wrong because they didn’t know any better.
>What is the purpose of life, in your view?
We don't even know if there is an objective purpose in life, let alone knowing what it is.
Argument : there is no proof that there is a purpose.
To understand the meaning of life you first have to understand the context it happens in. And the fastest way to do that is to study NDEs and realize that there actually is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die.
Of course, nothing gets normies and NPCs more uncomfortable than the idea that NDEs are ACTUALLY real, and that there are valid reasons to think that they are and that we should take them seriously.
Here is an extremely persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:
It makes a huge deal about the fact that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and that when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:
>"Statistics collected show that the "deeper" the NDE the greater the percentage of those who come away certain of the existence of the afterlife. Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."
Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. And so would you, me, or anyone, including the most dogmatic atheists and skeptics, because it is VASTLY more self-evidently real than this brief little experience of life on Earth we have now. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.
So read NDE accounts and basically all you can about NDEs. Books, YouTube-videos, articles, everything. They will make you realize that there is an afterlife, that there is meaning to life, and that NDErs say that the primary purpose here is to learn to love everyone and everything, no matter what. That it does not matter so much what kind of things we do, but whether we do them with no strings attached, and summon that kindness, love, and compassion on the inside of our own minds as we do it. So the meaning of life then, according to NDErs, is the small things. Whether it is helping someone with their homework, cooking dinner for our family, cleaning the bathroom, or picking up trash from the ground. Whatever it is, if we do it with love, then that is so huge on the other side, it is amazingly huge. So life is like a game where the goal is to summon as much kindness, love, compassion, and generosity as we possibly can squeeze out of our intentions. Which admittedly is definitely easier said than done!
You are playing life on a higher difficulty anon. We are here to learn to shine with love and kindness _in a world where it is undeniably hard to do so_! So are you up for the challenge? You can do it anon. Show us you can do it.
So sure, suicide shoots you directly to heaven and infinite bliss. But at the same time, you were there when choosing to come here. Suicide is therefore like turning off the Silent Hill video game and going out in the sun and playing with your friends. Which is totally fine! But it's not beating and 100%-ing the game, which is to live until death takes you, and being kind and loving all the time along the way.
So choosing to come here is like choosing to go to Harvard. It is not easy, and you have to be somebody to even get to come here. As NDErs say, everybody on Earth is a star on the other side for having the courage and endurance to come to this nightmare hellhole.
Now you have the answer OP. But can you face it?
the answer remains in you, as long as you live. i call it the inner truth. DMT, LSD etc. simply force you in a state where you cannot lie to yourself and so you get confronted with truth. the only truth there is. your truth. it sounds all spritiual and shit, but it is basically just the art of not lying to yourself. religion is that in its very fundaments. religious people are constantly entangled in self-lies. religion is a "spiritual" prison. you suck "gods" cock and romanticize it. you are your only god. a god who is not almighty. a god who is desperetaly trying to survive in this reality. stop being a hypocrite nigga and accept your inner truth. you are everything there is, who matters.
>demons are real because some people experience sleep paralysis
>no, there's no logical explanation for sleep paralysis, it's definitely demons
I saw nothing in my NDE. I saw the car. Then saw my wife looking at me in a hospital room. I was dead for 15 minutes.
People like you should be killed outright without pause or remorse, seeing as you yourself think there is no purpose to your existence.
Le purpose of life. Sounds like asking what is the purpose of a stone. Nothing, for first, the stone just is.
this is the obvious correct answer people avoid because it is not satisfying enough to them
And? Sounds like you refused to finish your sentence. How is this not satyisfing to you? What purpose would there even be to life? I've watched many animals in my life. Aren't they grateful beings, doing everything they can with the little that they have, cynically indifferent to suffering and death when there's nothing that can be done about it? If you cannot take on such a mindset, as the far more superior species that you are, truly you will forever remain a pathetic cuck.
I did finish my sentence
I did finish and I was agreeing with you and communicated just fine what I was trying to say
tip of advice you are not a mind-reader and it's best for your own sake and everyone else's to take them at their word online, we are not liberal homosexuals here and if I wanted to call you a bitch and say you were wrong I would've said that
leave a better world for our offspring to inherit. or at least not worsen the world.
Your answer assumes teleology. I think that is a trash outdated view so the entire question is nonsensical to me.
The purpose of life is to enjoy it with the people you love and to do what you can to better society, or at least not help make it worse.
There is no purpose. You can do whatever you want with it. It’s crazy how something so self evident is still considered a serious philosophical question.
There is no purpose from the universe outside our heads but our instincts and entire brains certainly prefer us to live a certain way. In groups, accomplishing tasks and bonding, working toward common goals, enjoying our lives having sex, eating good food and growing families.
Usually when people ask these questions they are being dishonest. They are actually wanting to know what the purpose of a HUMAN life is, or more so, what should I do as a human with my life since Christianity and all religion is wrong?
That's a different question than what is the cause of life in general, or to what end life is striving for. Since for example, the purpose of a bear trap is to catch a bear.
Based on what I know, life is a coincidence. It has no purpose.
Human life therefore also has no purpose, but that does not mean you can go around murdering people. The idea humans are inherently evil is a Christian belief, apart of the Christian religious doctrine (original sin), and not an atheistic or a rational belief.
You murdering someone might be a coincidence, but so is the existence of court systems and revenge. If you coincidentally kill someone, then court systems have every right to do what they evolved to do. Punish. Ideally any rational being would understand the benefit of keeping others alive and working with them, because life is not a zero sum game, the division of labor produces more goods the more people there are around.
TLDR; There is no rational argument to be made on why you should kill an innocent person from the belief life has no purpose. It only seems that way because you were raised by original sin and not be economics.
None. It just is.
Searching for some "purpose" behind it is foolish, we can only apply reasoning to human and intelligent animal actions, not natural processes that gave rise to carbon lifeforms.
There is no objective purpose.
I believe the most basic purpose of life is to reproduce and pass on your genetic material. The second purpose in life is to become the best version of yourself (I have idealized version of myself in my head and I work towards bringing that version of me into reality).
It's funny how everyone presupposes that the purpose of life is going to be something positive. That should be enough evidence that the question itself arises out of wishful thinking.
Of course it’s going to be something positive. Your brain is going to punish you if you pick a negative purpose in life unless you’re a genuine psycho
Why would the brain do that?
To motivate you to be a productive social human that cooperates with a group on a near constant basis
Yeah, but what's the purpose of that? Why the survival and cooperation over not?
Because that’s how the human brain is wired. Of course this is a slight generalization because not everyone is neurotypical.
I know, not asking about all cases or absolutes. But why is this the case, I mean this is working, it would've been selected for a reason.
Yeah large cooperative groups of humans facilitate better survival than living like a stray housecat
was right, and the answer is self-continuation?
On a meta level in a way yes, but from each individual persons perspective, that manifests as aiming to enjoy life
But that's the side effect, if nothing else.
No. Not objectively.
It is literally an objective fact that brains, when working properly and all that, compel humans to not kill themselves so they can reproduce.
Good to know you believe homosexuality is a mental disorder.
Now can you address the point?
Never called a sexuality a mental disoreder. They lack drive to reproduce, though. Invalidating your point.
They don't lack the drive to reproduce, they lack the drive to fuck people of different sex. These two are not incompatible.
That is tantamount to reproduction.
Just like living is tantamount to dying? Or that's somehow different.
based. lots of fags want kids and a family. they intuitively understand the value of creating new life and raising your own children. most of them supress this realization and try to ignore it, living a life of total hedonism and then dying peacefully on a hospital bed from super aids.
I have met 4 out of literally thousands that wanted children.
putting your claim that you've met thousands of fags and asked them if they want children aside, i think the number of fags who want children is higher than that. Sure, not many fags understand the value of family, children, and creating new life. But can we blame them? It's not in the interest of the fag to admit to himself that creating a family is important. Admitting that having kids is important means that their faggy lifestyle lacks an important ingredient. It's just easier to buy a few cats and a couple of dogs or adopt another man's kid.
even the ones who "want children" are usually just as happy adopting children and simply want some company rather than having the drive to reproduce and have their own children that actually have their blood.
>They don't lack the drive to reproduce,
yeah they do on average. the fertility of homosexuals is much lower than the fertility of heterosexuals which is evidence of the average homosexual having less of a drive to reproduce than the average heterosexual.
Most human beings don't consciously think to themselves "I feel the drive to multiply my genes" , rather, whether they reproduce and how much is the outcome of several combined behavioural drives , including the drive to have sexual intercourse with the opposite sex.
If an individual lacks the behavioural drive to have sexual intercourse with members of the opposite sex then on average that will result in that individual reproducing much less than if he possessed that behavioural drive.
a minority of homosexuals will want to pass on their genes despite lacking a healthy functioning sex drive for members of the opposite sex, but the vast majority are genetic incels and evolutionary dead-ends
It's hard to say if we or any life has a true purpose, but I think it's correct to say that conscious life forms are essentially the universe observing itself. Perhaps there's some meaning in that.
The question makes no sense. If you’re asking how to live, then I would say: get power
To know God via the beatific vision.
The only purpose that seems inherent to life is to replicate/reproduce itself into different carbon molecules so that that one can keep going, every time increasing the ability to survive under the conditions present through natural selection.
only that, because if it doesn't it is no longer life. It's the function of it. lifes literal purpose is to make more of itself.
Why you ask? That is a completely different question.
There's is no inherent goal to life.
The concept of a goal to life is an illusion created by evolutionary forces and, in the case of humans, desire.
the purpose of life is to survive, procreate, and live, in that order.
To serve the Lord, which means being good to your family and your race and helping bring about their long term survival and thriving.
>childless, eggless woman who can no longer possibly get pregnant pretends that there is any meaning to her "dating"
Another female celebrity chooses trying to have the most famous career possible over having kids and ends up going crazy. Sad and common.
"dating" when you're no longer able to have kids is no different than buying a dog.
It's meaningless. you're just trying to find a warm body for comfort and company.
The only genuine meaning of human sexual relationships is to create a family together, that's why young fertile people are the only people genuinely capable of being in love.
When old people "date" or get married they never really care about the marriage that much, they never really get devastated when they find out their partner has cheated like when they're in their teens, 20s and 30s.
They know that they're just passing time. That there old-erpson marriage relationship has no meaning for the future like when they're continuing their bloodline by having kids.
People who chose not to have kids are barely even alive. They're like the undead. They failed to achieve the purpose of life and now they're in limbo.
Same goes for homosexuals.
People who choose not to reproduce like old celebrities and homosexuals should be put in a meat grinder and used as fertiliser or have their organs harvested for transplants or medical research tbh. Letting such spiritually sick people live in society is going to be a net negative.
This doesn't go for people who want to have kids but became infertile due to disease or injury. Their souls are clean and healthy and are just unlucky.
But the kind of "people" who willingly spend their childbearing years going "woo hoo I don't want to have kids, I can't take the time off my career playing pretend on stage" or "I'm going to rub my genitals against the orifice of someone who's the same sex as me" should probably be put down the way you'd put down a zombie or a rabid animal.
Life has no purpose.
HUMAN life, however, has a purpose that can be nearly universally agreed upon: make life better for those you care about before you die, and pursue any goals that interest you in your limited time on Earth. Anyone who disagrees is either a contrarian or misled.
>Life has no purpose.
>HUMAN life, however, has a purpose that can be nearly universally agreed upon: make life better for those you care about before you d
Talk about a leap of logic.
I wish i could have children but i dont like women :/
I see very little difference between purpose of life and the purpose of rocks or air. It's just the result of the causal nature of the universe, and it's purpose is given and taken many times over as it takes shape many times over, likely tantamount to forever in both directions on any human scale.
A mountain can serve as a landmark just for as long as people care to treat it as such or until it ceases to serve that purpose, but a mountain can be used for a great many things or nothing, all by differing groups or even animals of varied abilities of perception and rational thought.
I think viruses are a good case study for the purpose of life, as their intention and purpose is so apparently clear to our monkey minds- they must find a host and replicate, perhaps their purpose is to make people feel ill, or maybe that's the side effect of their reproduction? But no, the reality is, this and any purpose is something we ascribe to them, as it's pretty apparent that they are just 'chemical dirt' that when caught just right in the proper machine they just so happen to cause chemical reactions that accidentally through no fault of their own create more of the same dirt... because it can, it does, and if from one you can make two or more, it can be prolific. I think the same purpose of life can be said about mountains or the tides or any natural thing; It just kind of happens because other stuff caused it to happen, and in turn will impact other, and so the cycle continues forever or so.
I say, enjoy the time you have while you're in the drivers seat... most parts of you atomic or otherwise have sluffed off your body and used by other things many times over during your short life... set sail theseus, sail and be merry! Let the atoms you control for this moment enjoy their short time in the sun... that can be for pleasures of the flesh or the piety of mind... whatever makes you feel good is your purpose, because the purpose of life itself is what you make of it.
>What is the purpose of life, in your view?
there is no purpose
Is there a word or a concept that describes people tying their brain in knots about philosophy of a meaningful life instead of enjoying life with your friends and girlfriends until you buy a house get married and have kids?
>and have kids?
Good idea having kids in a israeli dominated world. Retard.
I think it's just not understanding what philosophy is or it is supposed to do.
>Just ignore reality bro!
>Just live life blind and naive bro!
>What? Your wife left you and took your three kids?
>What? Your son cut off his balls and says hes a she now?
>What? You couldn't see this happening at all?
Hope it happens to you.
>wahh [current events] wahhh
I am grown, nagger. Walking around acting as if the world isn't on fire is a great way to get burned though, so I hope you enjoy that.
To lift up, teach, and make better more life. To lead those who cannot lead themselves and to set an example for those who come after you.
Unfortunately, we have forgotten all of this, and no one cares anymore.
cancer is life in its purest form