>Russia is on its knees begging for every last scrap of positive spin
Where are you getting this from? They have repelled the counter offensive for 3 months
Armata is too OP. This wunderwaffe would break Ukraine apart if we use it.
>russia is really strong!! >it’s just holding back!!
A year and a half in and russia is still fighting one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe. Took the US a week to topple Iraq’s government which boasted the 4th largest army at the time. Idk how you shills can reconcile this.
"Lost"?
Or left? Americans just don't give a shit enough to continue a war they were tired of over a decade ago.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lost.
Bled out.
Defeated.
Driven away.
Fled.
Whatever choice of words, you aint getting a refund on those wasted resources. But the point is, you cant compare Arabs to Slavs, especially not Iraq that was backstabbed by France.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"Lost"? >Or left? Americans just don't give a shit enough to continue a war they were tired of over a decade ago.
Yes you "left" all your equipment and thousands of american civilians and soliders when you "rapidly 360 moonwalked" out of the country. Many of your people had to escapenon foot through central asia and down into Pakistan.
The equivalent of medieval soldier throwing his sword and armor off so he can desert and run away faster.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is that what they were saying on weibo?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lmao what? Americans were allevacuated . If anything afghani collaborators were mostly abandoned or had to be exfilled via Pakistan
But if you didn’t watch Talibans harass and kill Iranian border guards you probably won’t get why America left them all those weapons lmao. Same with their raids into Pakistan.
Afghanistan is now a live grenade that’s harassing everyone of the US’s competitors in the area.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Americans were allevacuated
Oh so you are just lying now.
>But if you didn’t watch Talibans harass and kill Iranian border guards you probably won’t get why America left them all those weapons lmao. Same with their raids into Pakistan.
1,000,0000,0000,0000,0,00,00D chess
Yeah, le ebig pic has already been liberated
You do realise Ukrainians are already past the first line of defense yes?
White line from right to Down is the first line of defense and it’s already breached on one side. Mostly by grey zone but still breached
>Yeah, le ebig pic has already been liberated >You do realise Ukrainians are already past the first line of defense yes?
Lmao its been months retard, "we have reached the first line of defense". In months.
If they had any chance they would be in Mariupol you fucking Psake Posting retard. I know youre a fat, burger eating, glow in the dark, CIA homosexual posting either via VPN, or since youre too dumb for those, living in Italy on one of your occupational bases. In that case I really hope you get herpes from your Albanian whore.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>lost
Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy
The US lost the War in Afghanistan, that is the fact that the entire world save dedicated zogbots can see.
Cope how you want, that it wasn't the military and just the commander in chief of the military, but it was still a loss
First gulf war showed the world that Russian equipment and doctrine were worthless.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This war is showing that the western equipment and doctrine are worthless too. No surprises there given that nobody has done a proper war since the 50s.
Wow who could have known that doctrine from 80 years ago isn't working anymore.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wow who could have known that doctrine from 80 years ago isn't working anymore
just spitballin' here... but could answer be, i maen just possibly?''''
israeliteS!!???!
>russia and China weren’t supplying iraq and Afghanistan
Kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Two migs and two drunk ruskies to train them lmfao >american fragility
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes we didn't, you absolute dumbfuck
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>americans try to rationalize loss in Iraq and Afghan
Classic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
We barrel fucked both.
I was against both wars by the way, but your characterization is the actual cope.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>veni, vidi, fugi
Another American victory!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The best way for America to "win" is to find some diplomatic soltution, while Ukraine still has an ability to threaten Russian forces.
There is no "victory" for anyone if this stupid shit keeps grinding up good men on both sides.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>your characterization is the actual cope.
My characterization? Your wars are considered losses, period. But going ahead as claiming China and Russia was there hence why you lost is a definition of a cope
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wars are political.
Unless civilization collapses back to the dark ages, we will never again have another war where you see one nation overrun another, kill all the men, salt the Earth, and/or move settlers in to take the land.
So if I come to your house, kick your ass, rape your wife, and your dogs, and then sit around doing that for 20 years until I decide to leave, is that a victory for you?
You can beat your chest all you want, and call yourself the victor, but if I attained my politica goals, I don't care.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Mutt doesn't know RU actively assisted the west in the WOT due to Chechnya
>russia is really strong!! >it’s just holding back!! >A year and a half in and russia is still fighting one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe. Took the US a week to topple Iraq’s government which boasted the 4th largest army at the time. Idk how you shills can reconcile this.
I like how you pretend they arent fighting YOU and beating YOU with their 90s equipment.
>russia is fighting all of nato!!
Holy cope, chang
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I mean... yeah... they are. I find it hard to deny that Russia is in a proxy war with the US and its vassals.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Russia is in Maine and making his way down the coasts already. It’s just an info operations to distract from the real offensyv taking place on your soils
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They're using nato vehicles, missiles, artillery, air defence, guns and bullets >They have thousands of "volunteers" from nato countries >Nato officers are training their soldiers >Nato generals help plan their strategy >YOU THINK NATO IS INVOLVED TEEHEE LOL XD
nafo poofs are the funniest
Didn’t they say Kherson was officially russia and then they lost it? So exactly how much of Ukraine is the territory they want? And don’t say it’s what they currently occupy cause up until a week ago that included Robotnyk
I guess russians aren’t big fans of sanic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not so much about wanting the territory per se as vying for control over the border through any means. With ukie government being kinda antagonistic and confrontational taking over their land remains the only option.
As of now no one here really knows what to make of it and which territories to consider Russia and which not to. Should one paint Kherson red or not? Local mapmakers have no idea, nowhere in the laws or constitution is anything like that specified, the government leaves itself plenty of wiggle room for when/if it shits the bed.
>makes fun of repairable bradleys >puts tires on bombers to protect them from drone attacks
Lmao
Yes, it was my idea, you caught me. Guilty as charged. I just wanted to add another layer to the game, originally the plan was to paint the tires different colours, and use chalks to write the rules on the tarmac so that they could be seen from above - how many points one earns for dropping a grenade in this or that tire. But we ran out of money and could only afford the tires so it looks stupid. I'm sorry.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>mama why did papa die? >to make some wiggle room on a map so that the government next door isn’t too unfriendly
As for the tires I got no complaints, think about it, you put tires on plane, drone pilot sees them and thinks about cheerios, GETS HUNGRY, eats cheerios, but oh no, can’t pilot drone and eat cheerios at the same time. Cheerios and milk spill on console, console is kaput, Soviet Union is restored
Big success
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>mama why did papa die? >you see, some of the soldiers who get to guest in our country (for our protection of course!) decided to fool around and impress his friends by flying a plane past a cable car your daddy and two dozen other civilians were in. On the upside, he didn't die alone, their paste got all mixed into a nice ragu much like that barilla you're eating
>Took the US a week to topple Iraq’s government which boasted the 4th largest army at the time
We had complete air superiority and bombed the shit out of them for weeks first. All of our equipment was decades newer than what Iraq had outside of their elite guards units, and most of their troops were shittily trained conscripts, compared to our all-volunteer military which at that point was devoted to intense, realistic training. It wasn’t anything like a peer opponent.
Literally this. 1 armada on each front and those bad boys gonna stack up some real numbers
Initially, generals surovikin wanted to use them, hence his nickname “Armageddon”, because those portable nukes would wreak real Armageddon on ukrainians
Literally this. 1 armada on each front and those bad boys gonna stack up some real numbers
Initially, generals surovikin wanted to use them, hence his nickname “Armageddon”, because those portable nukes would wreak real Armageddon on ukrainians
>hydraulic hatch gets stuck when the t14 bumps a rock >30 dollar cardboard rpg drone flies in the back igniting ammo >blyaaaaaat.wmv >whole crew tries to leave burning tank but hatch stuck >mfw
hatch gets stuck when the t14 bumps a rock
Well I haven't heard of T-14 being used for anything other than training or propaganda, but this is kinda what happened in that bradley video where the door jams and the entire crew is briefly stuck in a smoke-filled metal box until they remember there's a smaller hatch made just for occasions like that (bradley rear door is known to be prone to jamming but no one but the grunts who get to ride it will talk about it). Quite a memorable video, one of the guys who spills out of the bradley is the guy who got to briefly cosplay Cotton Hill - until he bled out, that is.
>Quite a memorable video
Yeah, I guess it's weird for a russian who is used to the "just blow up everyone if we get hit" ones.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's more about being surprised as to how driving over a mine in an IFV can result in someone losing their feet when even a Tigr would fare better there.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's more about being surprised
First war you are following?
Its not cope you pea brained retatd. Why would you use a tank in static defense? Thats last stand tier shit. You're just going to get btfo by artillery.
What does a tank have? Armor, mobiliy and firepower. If your not using the mobility there is no point in using them over any old at gun or atgm. Have a squad dig down with an atgm and they have the same firepower as a tank while also having more "armor" and being easier to hide. And its cheaper.
Atgm does both of that and they are in no risk of being rolled over if they are behind a minefields, ditches and concrete hedges.
> easier to hide
The tank can still reposition out of its scrape once it has revealed its position or been recon'd.
There are drones everywhere, they dont need to fire to be revealed.
Its just smarter to keep your armor out of range from artillery and ready to plug any gap if the ukranians break through and make manouver warfare a reality again.
> they dont need to fire to be revealed.
Nice diversion. You were arguing about tanks not having any distinct advantages to fortified artillery positions. But nvm, don't bother to respond, I already discerned you as yet another /k/tard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You were arguing about tanks not having any distinct advantages to fortified artillery positions.
Because they barely do, not when you factor in the cost anyway. An at gun with an old shitty mtlb that tow it away is a fraction of the cost but almost as effective.
You're a retarded german autist that cant do a cost benefit analysis. Thats why you guys made dumb shit like king tiger and maus.
Atgm squad >has slower RoF >worse optics >less amunition >Is not protected against autocannon and shrapnel >has much worse mobility
ATGM squad will do if there is one or two IFVs. If enemy is coming in force , you want tank. Just as you want tank if your defensive positions were bombed to shit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Atgm squad >>has slower RoF
optics >>less amunition >>Is not protected against autocannon and shrapnel >>has much worse mobility
Yes, but you get lots of atgm squads for the cost of one tank. You want the tanks hidden behind the front, ready to counter attack if there is a break through/risk of one.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Yes, but you get lots of atgm squads for the cost of one tank.
And you get a lot of tank shells per the cost of one ATGM. And the tank will have more firepower per 3 men.
Its a matter of cost balancing, with tanks having an edge on flat plains and against concentrated enemy forces.
>puccia destroyed 6 Bradley’s >ITS OVER FOR THE WEST >le nato has fallen
Next shipment incoming
well,
the Russians, nay, any nation with technogy,
i think knows when the weapons are bought, how and where they go
what where it goes and to. tech is do amazing how can such shipments be hiidden? anons?
yes, but they know right where they are in UKRAINE.
they would sink on till it gets there because the seem to have some semblance of understanding international and wartime law
That's not necessarily true.
I remember in the early stages of the war, they would follow the shipments to their end destinations and then hit them with cruise missiles.
But you're right. There are no secrets with these shipments. But logistics are expensive.
Who said anything about a navy. Just send a few missiles and blame Ukraine saying they're trying to false flag because they know they're losing and desperate.
This may shock you but nobody believes russia's easily proven lies.
They've been repeated caught in bald faced lies and retarded vatniks just keep memoryholing it.
Kek. Shush now USA. Let's not try deflection here, this isn't Tumblr, it doesn't go over well mkay? Now have your last word and off you pop eh champ? Good boy.
Motherfucker you're in thailand. You're either pedophile tourist or a shitskin third worlder.
The fact that you're allowed to use the internet and pretend you have a valid opinion should be a warcrime.
Why would Russia lie just to draw attention to the obvious fact that Ukraine has no chance?
[...]
Can you remind us of a few of these lies, please?
>Can you remind us of a few of these lies, please?
Moskova returned to port under its own power
8 bradleys destroyed before any were shipped
No panic in kharkiv
No panic in Kherson
Kyiv was a good will gesture
Kyiv was actually a treaty with ukraine that they totally broke
And the classic, "get rid of your nukes and we promise we won't ever invade you"
That's off the top of my head. Im sure there are tons more.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>kyiv >treaty with ukraine that they totally broke >it was real in my mind
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Damn wouldn't it suck if this shit was extremely easy to find?
Oh yeah I almost forgot I included the phrase "easily proven lies"
>easily proven >continues to post without any merit to his claims >just believe me >kyiv
Show me the moscova in port.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
OH yeah, peace talks. Fuck i totally forgot https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/12/13/merkels-confession-could-be-a-pretext-for-an-international-tribunal/
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>instantly abandons his position and retreats to whataboutism
Lmao the russian nature really shines through.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Ad-hominem >whataboutism >laughingfaces.wav >muh ebil russkies >muh good goy ukies
Zersetzer gehören aufgehängt. Abschaum.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Still waiting for that picture of moskova in port, Ivan.
>easily proven lies >bald faced lies
Its like reading disinfo in realtime. They are not even trying to be subtle anymore, its actually kinda sad. Your kike masters atleast tried to be subtle back then but forgot to change the filenames and hebrew gibberish stuck out like a sore thump
Motherfucker you're in thailand. You're either pedophile tourist or a shitskin third worlder.
The fact that you're allowed to use the internet and pretend you have a valid opinion should be a warcrime.
[...] >Can you remind us of a few of these lies, please?
Moskova returned to port under its own power
8 bradleys destroyed before any were shipped
No panic in kharkiv
No panic in Kherson
Kyiv was a good will gesture
Kyiv was actually a treaty with ukraine that they totally broke
And the classic, "get rid of your nukes and we promise we won't ever invade you"
That's off the top of my head. Im sure there are tons more.
>"NOOO RUSSIA NEVER LIES" The retard said, lying.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>easily proven >continues to post without any merit to his claims >just believe me >kyiv
Just because you live in a different informational sphere doesn't mean the opposite doesn't exist in a comparable manner.
It's all about exposure, you filthy naggers.
J, you see RS's latest.
Bus
These fancy schmancy tanks are the sportcars he's referring to. Thrown under the Russkie bus.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/427876959/#q427878163
Nah I was thinking once it makes land maybe, I'm assuming there's a limit to how far the escort can go once it hits Ukraine and I'm assuming Russia is going to know exactly where these tanks are and be following them.
Why would Russia lie just to draw attention to the obvious fact that Ukraine has no chance?
This may shock you but nobody believes russia's easily proven lies.
They've been repeated caught in bald faced lies and retarded vatniks just keep memoryholing it.
>Oh no, that invincible Russian navy. Whatever will the USA do to cross the Atlantic now?
Russia can just wait until all American ship captains are Shaniquas, who cant even navigate in ports.
>Russia is on its knees begging for every last scrap of positive spin
Where are you getting this from? They have repelled the counter offensive for 3 months
Laying an infinite amount of mines rendering any territory you have completely useless ain’t repelling shit. CO is moving slowly but considering it’s not covered by air support, it’s having to slug through infinity mines and its constantly harassed by russians who do have air superiority id say advancing at all is an achievement, let alone conquering towns and moving through defensive lines
>CO is moving slowly but considering it’s not covered by air support, it’s having to slug through infinity mines and its constantly harassed by russians who do have air superiority id say advancing at all is an achievement
Have you considered that maybe trying to bruteforce way through such defensive lines might be a waste of munitions, armour and manpower?
They’re not really sending people to die one per mine are they, it’s sluggish because they’re having to Bangalore torpedo or cluster ammo thorough lines across the minefields. If they were simply running tanks into minefields I doubt they’d get anywhere at all. If there was any waste they would have been defeated plain and simple.
If anything they’re pushing through without air superiority which in and of itself is an incredibly admirable achievement
So you're saying Ukraine is winning because mines don't count?
What the fuck does that even mean? Nobody’s winning at the moment you fuck faced retard. Ukraine is advancing through infinity mines under constant harassment by artillery and with no air cover and its still managing to kick russians out. Taking a bunch of territory isn’t winning, winning is done at the end you fucking asiatic. They’re advancing. Advancing is what Ukraine needs to do to regain control of their territory. Plain and simple so a retard like you gets it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What the fuck does that even mean?
You were implying that they would have great success if it simply wasn't for the minefields
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, they would, were coming up to the 1 year anniversary of Kharkiv and Kherson counteroffensives and those were achieved with fucking humvees and cars alongside old soviet tanks and a bunch of APCs, again without air superiority, again under artillery fire, but without the minefields.
Minefields are a time saver, that’s it. No army that was successful ever relied solely on inert unmoving pieces of explosives
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you're so smart and omniscient on the state of the battlefield, then tell us for how long the conflict will last and how it will end
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You ask interesting questions but you ask them like a retard. I can tell you’re not a complete idiot but to me we’re gonna need at least 2 more years if not more.
It’s gonna be interesting watching russian troops react to the supposed disbanding of Wagner seeing as even Wagnerites often said they were better motivated than russian troops.
If Putin mobilises again then we might see a longer timeline but honestly the real effects of prygos death will be seen within the next months and it’s a big question mark.
>This post was written by LULZGPT automatic response system
Mh…
>Is known by whom?
By people with IQ over 80.
>Lmao most Bradley’s that have been knocked out have been repaired or can be repaired.
Open a workshop in the minefield, or send a recovery vehicle into a minefield?
[...] >Ukraines army could have invaded and destroyed Canada, very easily. Simp.
There is nothing worth having in Canada, but I would welcome the fire.
[...] >russia is fighting all of nato!! >Holy cope, chang
That is exactly what is happening. Exactly. You ate just too vaginal to do it openly, so you hide behind a paper of Ukraine. Half your soldiers are in Ukraine on 'vacation', that is why you have a manpower shortage at home, and you have depleted the warehouses of all missiles, shells and ammo for Ukraine.
Once an area is liberated demining the routes to recover hardware isnt hard at all
>empirically established Ukrainians are more powerful
Ukraine is on life support by NATO in every aspect.
Lend lease isn’t a guarantee for shit if the troops aren’t motivated and have a modicum of cohesion or inventiveness.
Most western military strategists gave Ukraine a bunch of months to live that’s it. Aide only arrived once the west saw the Ukrainians were capable of fighting and didn’t just fold a-la Afghan government
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Once an area is liberated demining the routes to recover hardware isnt hard at all
Once
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, le ebig pic has already been liberated
You do realise Ukrainians are already past the first line of defense yes?
White line from right to Down is the first line of defense and it’s already breached on one side. Mostly by grey zone but still breached
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is this info straight from the ghost of queef xirself?
>Is this info straight from the ghost of queef xirself?
Wtf is its name, Janine Syrillo? Anyway, nice "reverse encirclement" the classic Ukrainian pincer move, which is capturing 1000 square meters of land.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
stop typing and lurk more
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is this info straight from the ghost of queef xirself?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>we’re gonna need >we
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ukraine has already suffered around 70,000 casualties during this "counteroffensive", without making any significant progress. Russians can just chill and lean back as wave after wave of fresh Ukrainian conscript meat walks into the designated kill zones and gets blown apart without ever having seen a Russian soldier. It's a turkey shoot.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If there was any waste they would have been defeated plain and simple
nagger what the fuck are you on about. Hohols are literally trying to zerg the Russians out regardless of "waste", hence all of the retarded begging, conscription, and human wave tactics. These homosexuals have literally been dragging off hohols off the streets non-stop since the start of the war. They don't give a fuck how much "waste" there is. Why do you think they never mention hohol casualties whenever they talk about Russian casualties? As long as they can impress the west to keep the gib money flowing they don't give a fuck, it's not like they're the ones doing the dying. Shit, this entire war I can only recall once where ukraine decided to retreat and that was early on in severodonetsk. After that zelenskike said fuck all of that, no more retreating IDGAF how wasteful it is which led to the retardation at bakhmut. Dumbass shitalian homosexual kys
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Finally someone with common sense in this godforsaken thread, jesus tapdancin' christ. Its either baitposting or geniune retardation on this board nowadays. Man, back when we had sleepover gaza threads and now look at this board, pic related: oc made during gaza threads back in 09
Can’t counter argue but brings the vax into the convo.
Out of curiosity what’s your stance on sinovax and sputnik? Just checking if you’re consistent or if you stick to party rhetoric like a good bot
>Laying an infinite amount of mines rendering any territory you have completely useless ain’t repelling shit
If that territory is rendered useless, what's the point for Ukraine to get it back? And why are you happy about them getting any inch of it back?
True but nothing will stop the horde of unarmed Russian orcs from overwhelming any defense, a massive blunder overall for them but Russians live and breathe copium for treating others like shit
Yeah Putin has been all over the world and every channel known to man begging for money and weapons.
He even said >thank you'd are not tanks
Hes super desperate and on cocaine
This but unironically
And not Putin but his cronies. Shoigu to South Korea, horseface to the desert naggers. With friends like theZe!!!!
Also Contrary to Zelensky if Putin takes a step outside of Russia he fucking dies. Even if he goes to an allied country like South Africa lmao
Is known by whom? Lmao most Bradley’s that have been knocked out have been repaired or can be repaired. Even le ebig pic of le dead brooodleys that all of russia jacks off to is now Ukrainian territory and those vehicles that could be salvaged were
Italy is on its knees sucking African cocks. Ask meloni.
Now shut up and kiss me
Everyone of the people in the country you live in wants you dead, doesn’t matter how hard you say you’re one of the good russians. They know you’re just a fucking snitch rat and you’ll get what you deserve
Very cool, let’s see Paul Allen’s photo now, or reports of them all having been taken to Poland for repair
Ukraine has already suffered around 70,000 casualties during this "counteroffensive", without making any significant progress. Russians can just chill and lean back as wave after wave of fresh Ukrainian conscript meat walks into the designated kill zones and gets blown apart without ever having seen a Russian soldier. It's a turkey shoot.
Ah yes, those deaths in the 6-8 figures at every counter offensive. I read this exact same shit last year for the Kherson CO, everyone was dead, CO was too slow, allies were gonna pull the plug. Fucking repetitive
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>reports of them all having been taken to Poland for repair
no shit brain those hulls are done. No repairing them by euroshits with their tiny brains. shitalian doesn't know about composite hulls
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>chimpout
Hulls are mostly intact lmao, no matter your “how do magnets work” shit for brains chimpout. It’s already been confirmed that those alongside many other items are being repaired.
I guess nothing short of putting tires on top of planes to protect them from missile strikes can compute to your chink brain
That multipolar world is coming along so well
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't seem to understand anything about this war. Please stop talking.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am sorry that the Ukrainian wave tactics are boring you. You could tell them to stop they might listen to you.
>Lmao most Bradley’s that have been knocked out have been repaired or can be repaired.
Open a workshop in the minefield, or send a recovery vehicle into a minefield?
Ukraines army could have invaded and destroyed Canada, very easily. Simp.
>Ukraines army could have invaded and destroyed Canada, very easily. Simp.
There is nothing worth having in Canada, but I would welcome the fire.
>russia is fighting all of nato!!
Holy cope, chang
>russia is fighting all of nato!! >Holy cope, chang
That is exactly what is happening. Exactly. You ate just too vaginal to do it openly, so you hide behind a paper of Ukraine. Half your soldiers are in Ukraine on 'vacation', that is why you have a manpower shortage at home, and you have depleted the warehouses of all missiles, shells and ammo for Ukraine.
>posting random memes will make you look like you belong here
case in point
[...] >Is this info straight from the ghost of queef xirself?
Wtf is its name, Janine Syrillo? Anyway, nice "reverse encirclement" the classic Ukrainian pincer move, which is capturing 1000 square meters of land.
>Americans were allevacuated
Oh so you are just lying now.
>But if you didn’t watch Talibans harass and kill Iranian border guards you probably won’t get why America left them all those weapons lmao. Same with their raids into Pakistan.
1,000,0000,0000,0000,0,00,00D chess
[...] >Yeah, le ebig pic has already been liberated >You do realise Ukrainians are already past the first line of defense yes?
Lmao its been months retard, "we have reached the first line of defense". In months.
If they had any chance they would be in Mariupol you fucking Psake Posting retard. I know youre a fat, burger eating, glow in the dark, CIA homosexual posting either via VPN, or since youre too dumb for those, living in Italy on one of your occupational bases. In that case I really hope you get herpes from your Albanian whore.
I'm just going to assume it's because they didn't want to spread their formation out over a huge minefield, even if they had a mineclearer it would be destroyed by AT rockets and artillery, tanks are pretty dogshit in modern warfare, it's not like WW2 where they could only be destroyed by unguided munitions or other tanks.
It's deeply symbolical. My interpretation is that the lone tank represents a lone Russia moving on, enduring, and prevailing against the tyrannical west. They didn't need to do a lavish parade. They've been doing those for decades. It would've been a juicy target for a terror attack.
Not that /misc/ would understand. This place is infested with tranny zoomers who unironically consume TikToks on a hourly basis.
Remember when the US finally agreed to send Ukraine depleted uranium ammo? Like a week ago?
That ammo was 25mm AP for the Bradley main gun. Meaning that we knowingly sent the Ukrainians into combat armed only with 25mm HE which is ineffective against armor.
Based and tbh Bradleys have faced off against soviet tanks for more than 2 decades now so I’d say they’re up for the challenge.
But I think modern NATO doctrine doesn’t like to pit IFVs against Tanks even if in the past they’ve gambled as such. I think it’s more up to infantry with portable anti tank guns and armor on armor warfare
brad is a troop transport, not a tank destroyer or an MBT.
even if it's carrying mechanized who can dismount with AT weapons, they'd be engaged before they got within 10% of max range of handheld AT weapons
they've got what, 8 ATGMs? but they need 10 seconds on target to land a shot and in the meantime they get snapped by a glancing blow from a T72 AP round
> US army base poster
Do you realise there are autistics tracking every single unique image/video, doing 'purely confirmed' destroyed armor and casualties, and even they have the heavy armor losses of the counter offensive in the hundreds. Light armor / military vehicles is in the thousands.
Which again doesnt confirm that it engaged another armour. Most of the vehicles that get wrecked are through artillery, atgms, drones and mines. You hardly ever see tank vs tank engagements.
Oh, my bad. You're specifically saying tank vs tank. Yeah that's not happening. Russians are fully focused on stand off combat, forcing Ukrainians to plow through mine fields.
On the artillery duels, that's starting to look grim. I haven't seen any commentators noticing this, but the artillery losses according to Russian MOD and even confirmed by image/video is increasing, while Ukraine is at their lowest levels to date. Russia is clearly focusing on destroying artillery, radars, and anti-air as a priority.
It was up to 5 a day for a very long time. For the last two weeks it's been 12-15 per day being destroyed. Won't even matter if shells can be shipped in adequate numbers if they don't have the guns to fire them.
The only evidence I have seen is when they first tried to send some Bradleys forward without support. They stopped after they got pasted. At least that's what they said, who knows what desperation may cause.
However, the Russians are playing defense right now, relying on their mine fields and dug in postitions, which is the smart move on their part.
I hate Ukraine
I hate Russia
But most of all I think I'm starting to hate Poland more than both combined with their warmongering trying to drag America into WWIII. Poland is like that short guy always starting fights hoping his friends will back him up.
I wonder how russian identity is changing now that we’ve empirically established Ukrainians are more powerful than you.
I bet you always saw them as your retarded cousins and now they’re mass killing you.
I remember my russian flat mate in the Uk showed me a movie about a russian kid in america and the bad guys were the Ukrainian mafia. Lmao you people always hated them, brotherly people my ass
you do realize every time one gets hit somebody dies right?
how many more men can ukraine send to the slaughter before they run out of men hmm?
they are already resorting to kidnapping people off the street and their women are sucking german cock as we speak
Enough with the fakes you ruzzian shill. No bradleys were destroyed. Any bradley that received so much as a chipped paint damage has been towed across the border into Poland and repaired there. In fact, Poles are so good at repairing bradleys that they built 6 extra ones out of the spare parts, in yet another military miracle.
even worse they are shipping them out of NTC, worn out garbage
>chimpout
Hulls are mostly intact lmao, no matter your “how do magnets work” shit for brains chimpout. It’s already been confirmed that those alongside many other items are being repaired.
I guess nothing short of putting tires on top of planes to protect them from missile strikes can compute to your chink brain
That multipolar world is coming along so well
fuck the nafo trannie is an expert bradley mechanic now.
I don't know why you're happy about this.The outcome should be obvious. Without air superiority and a means to clear mine fields, these are just going to get scrapped.
And whomever controls the battlefield last gets all the trophies. Each one of those is worth tens of thousands of dollars as raw metal. Russia is just going to drag them of the field, melt them down, and remake new tanks. They wouldn't be making money from it, but it certainly does subsidise their costs. They're going to get some of the richest farm and resource land in the world eventually though. And a few million new people who are culturally compatible.
Meanwhile, nothing is ever going to flow back towards the American or EU taxpayers.
>And whomever controls the battlefield last gets all the trophies. Each one of those is worth tens of thousands of dollars as raw metal
Based and supreme commanderpilled
He took the time to change the file name to "IMG_1881.jpg" in order to pretend he was the one snapping that pic. These teenage Eglin propagandists need to go wash some rocks.
If you lost all of those, or lose some at a sustained pace, say if the war was to go hot and you had to directly engage in conventional warfare; how long would it take to replace them? Do you even make them anymore?
It's easy to see why Russian posts are so pathetic when you remember that the Russian mind is very similar to that of the negroid races, simply not evolved for complex though or understanding. Their ork hordes call for their ancient leader (the israelite) but in this unusual situation the israelite is divided between their love of cheap oil and their desire to eliminate Syria as a potential threat. The israelite is uncertain which side to support and waffles, causing the orks to hurt themselves in their confusion. Ukraine, being israeli itself is able to muster itself, as Zelenskyy is capable of coherent human expression he can guide his ork hordes. Meanwhile in Russia Putin and his part Asian friends are able to use the small amounts of intelligence bred into the Russian by the mongol hordes to understand that attack is good. How this will end I couldn't tell you, but it's reassuring to know that at the very least the Slavic population of the world will be thankfully reduced, greatly improving the general smell of Eurasia.
You do realize all across the front they ain't getting any video footage right now. Fucking hundreds of these things that we sent could be getting destroyed
shit, looks like the west is funding a war of attrition against Russia at this stage. Same reason Russia won ww2 with USA supplying and funding Russia's war machine. Except Russia is in an even weaker standing today than Nazi Germany was because more coordinated globalism. Good job israelitetin you fucking tool
I think at this point Russia would love to just grind it out. That's why they built all of those defensive works.
Ukraine is in the worst postion, because they are the grist for that grinding mill, and they are likely to lose that kind of war.
Ukraine is completely fucked unless they BTFO the Russians quickly, not just in a worse position. For a couple of reasons:
1) They can't afford to lose many more people and the longer this goes on, the more people they'll lose.
2) They depend 100% on USA funding their government, at some point USA might backstab them and once they do it's over.
So they need to win before they run out of people or USA backstabs them. Both will happen eventually and I wouldn't put my money on "Russia has 2 weeks until total economic collapse" happening before it.
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israelites draining the us taxpayer even more.
they israelite of the synagogue of satan love to see gear like this get rekt so they can sell the goys some more.
So just blow up the shipment while it's helpless at sea
>meanwhile we are still waiting on those armatas…
Don’t forget the wooden su 57 releasing in 2 more weeks
Why would they need those even? Your military hardware is a joke
>russia is really strong!!
>it’s just holding back!!
A year and a half in and russia is still fighting one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe. Took the US a week to topple Iraq’s government which boasted the 4th largest army at the time. Idk how you shills can reconcile this.
>Took the US a week to topple Iraq
>B..but what about our war against Zulus!
In the end, you lost your wars against ragheads.
>lost
Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy
"Lost"?
Or left? Americans just don't give a shit enough to continue a war they were tired of over a decade ago.
Lost.
Bled out.
Defeated.
Driven away.
Fled.
Whatever choice of words, you aint getting a refund on those wasted resources. But the point is, you cant compare Arabs to Slavs, especially not Iraq that was backstabbed by France.
>"Lost"?
>Or left? Americans just don't give a shit enough to continue a war they were tired of over a decade ago.
Yes you "left" all your equipment and thousands of american civilians and soliders when you "rapidly 360 moonwalked" out of the country. Many of your people had to escapenon foot through central asia and down into Pakistan.
The equivalent of medieval soldier throwing his sword and armor off so he can desert and run away faster.
Is that what they were saying on weibo?
Lmao what? Americans were allevacuated . If anything afghani collaborators were mostly abandoned or had to be exfilled via Pakistan
But if you didn’t watch Talibans harass and kill Iranian border guards you probably won’t get why America left them all those weapons lmao. Same with their raids into Pakistan.
Afghanistan is now a live grenade that’s harassing everyone of the US’s competitors in the area.
>Americans were allevacuated
Oh so you are just lying now.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/americans-left-behind-in-afghanistan-despite-psaki-claim-it-was-irresponsible-to-say-some-are-stranded
>But if you didn’t watch Talibans harass and kill Iranian border guards you probably won’t get why America left them all those weapons lmao. Same with their raids into Pakistan.
1,000,0000,0000,0000,0,00,00D chess
>Yeah, le ebig pic has already been liberated
>You do realise Ukrainians are already past the first line of defense yes?
Lmao its been months retard, "we have reached the first line of defense". In months.
If they had any chance they would be in Mariupol you fucking Psake Posting retard. I know youre a fat, burger eating, glow in the dark, CIA homosexual posting either via VPN, or since youre too dumb for those, living in Italy on one of your occupational bases. In that case I really hope you get herpes from your Albanian whore.
The US lost the War in Afghanistan, that is the fact that the entire world save dedicated zogbots can see.
Cope how you want, that it wasn't the military and just the commander in chief of the military, but it was still a loss
And now imagine how long you would've taken if the ruskies sent Iraq half their weapon stockpile
It wouldn't have mattered.
First gulf war showed the world that Russian equipment and doctrine were worthless.
This war is showing that the western equipment and doctrine are worthless too. No surprises there given that nobody has done a proper war since the 50s.
Wow who could have known that doctrine from 80 years ago isn't working anymore.
>Wow who could have known that doctrine from 80 years ago isn't working anymore
just spitballin' here... but could answer be, i maen just possibly?''''
israeliteS!!???!
>russia and China weren’t supplying iraq and Afghanistan
Kek
Two migs and two drunk ruskies to train them lmfao
>american fragility
Yes we didn't, you absolute dumbfuck
>americans try to rationalize loss in Iraq and Afghan
Classic
We barrel fucked both.
I was against both wars by the way, but your characterization is the actual cope.
>veni, vidi, fugi
Another American victory!
The best way for America to "win" is to find some diplomatic soltution, while Ukraine still has an ability to threaten Russian forces.
There is no "victory" for anyone if this stupid shit keeps grinding up good men on both sides.
>your characterization is the actual cope.
My characterization? Your wars are considered losses, period. But going ahead as claiming China and Russia was there hence why you lost is a definition of a cope
Wars are political.
Unless civilization collapses back to the dark ages, we will never again have another war where you see one nation overrun another, kill all the men, salt the Earth, and/or move settlers in to take the land.
So if I come to your house, kick your ass, rape your wife, and your dogs, and then sit around doing that for 20 years until I decide to leave, is that a victory for you?
You can beat your chest all you want, and call yourself the victor, but if I attained my politica goals, I don't care.
>Mutt doesn't know RU actively assisted the west in the WOT due to Chechnya
>russia is really strong!!
>it’s just holding back!!
>A year and a half in and russia is still fighting one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe. Took the US a week to topple Iraq’s government which boasted the 4th largest army at the time. Idk how you shills can reconcile this.
I like how you pretend they arent fighting YOU and beating YOU with their 90s equipment.
You have run out of artillery shells fat.
Second biggest army in NATO, dummy. Right behind the US.
Ukraines army could have invaded and destroyed Canada, very easily. Simp.
Oh my bad you were attacking the other moron. My apologies
>russia is fighting all of nato!!
Holy cope, chang
I mean... yeah... they are. I find it hard to deny that Russia is in a proxy war with the US and its vassals.
Russia is in Maine and making his way down the coasts already. It’s just an info operations to distract from the real offensyv taking place on your soils
>They're using nato vehicles, missiles, artillery, air defence, guns and bullets
>They have thousands of "volunteers" from nato countries
>Nato officers are training their soldiers
>Nato generals help plan their strategy
>YOU THINK NATO IS INVOLVED TEEHEE LOL XD
nafo poofs are the funniest
Russia has the territory it wants, why invade the rest?
Didn’t they say Kherson was officially russia and then they lost it? So exactly how much of Ukraine is the territory they want? And don’t say it’s what they currently occupy cause up until a week ago that included Robotnyk
I guess russians aren’t big fans of sanic
It's not so much about wanting the territory per se as vying for control over the border through any means. With ukie government being kinda antagonistic and confrontational taking over their land remains the only option.
As of now no one here really knows what to make of it and which territories to consider Russia and which not to. Should one paint Kherson red or not? Local mapmakers have no idea, nowhere in the laws or constitution is anything like that specified, the government leaves itself plenty of wiggle room for when/if it shits the bed.
Yes, it was my idea, you caught me. Guilty as charged. I just wanted to add another layer to the game, originally the plan was to paint the tires different colours, and use chalks to write the rules on the tarmac so that they could be seen from above - how many points one earns for dropping a grenade in this or that tire. But we ran out of money and could only afford the tires so it looks stupid. I'm sorry.
>mama why did papa die?
>to make some wiggle room on a map so that the government next door isn’t too unfriendly
As for the tires I got no complaints, think about it, you put tires on plane, drone pilot sees them and thinks about cheerios, GETS HUNGRY, eats cheerios, but oh no, can’t pilot drone and eat cheerios at the same time. Cheerios and milk spill on console, console is kaput, Soviet Union is restored
Big success
>mama why did papa die?
>you see, some of the soldiers who get to guest in our country (for our protection of course!) decided to fool around and impress his friends by flying a plane past a cable car your daddy and two dozen other civilians were in. On the upside, he didn't die alone, their paste got all mixed into a nice ragu much like that barilla you're eating
>Took the US a week to topple Iraq’s government which boasted the 4th largest army at the time
We had complete air superiority and bombed the shit out of them for weeks first. All of our equipment was decades newer than what Iraq had outside of their elite guards units, and most of their troops were shittily trained conscripts, compared to our all-volunteer military which at that point was devoted to intense, realistic training. It wasn’t anything like a peer opponent.
>Armata was not needed anyway
Kek'd, ziggers are on full copium overdose mode now
>Why would they need those even? Your military hardware is a joke
this
Armata is too OP. This wunderwaffe would break Ukraine apart if we use it.
Literally this. 1 armada on each front and those bad boys gonna stack up some real numbers
Initially, generals surovikin wanted to use them, hence his nickname “Armageddon”, because those portable nukes would wreak real Armageddon on ukrainians
>hydraulic hatch gets stuck when the t14 bumps a rock
>30 dollar cardboard rpg drone flies in the back igniting ammo
>blyaaaaaat.wmv
>whole crew tries to leave burning tank but hatch stuck
>mfw
hatch gets stuck when the t14 bumps a rock
Well I haven't heard of T-14 being used for anything other than training or propaganda, but this is kinda what happened in that bradley video where the door jams and the entire crew is briefly stuck in a smoke-filled metal box until they remember there's a smaller hatch made just for occasions like that (bradley rear door is known to be prone to jamming but no one but the grunts who get to ride it will talk about it). Quite a memorable video, one of the guys who spills out of the bradley is the guy who got to briefly cosplay Cotton Hill - until he bled out, that is.
>Quite a memorable video
Yeah, I guess it's weird for a russian who is used to the "just blow up everyone if we get hit" ones.
It's more about being surprised as to how driving over a mine in an IFV can result in someone losing their feet when even a Tigr would fare better there.
>It's more about being surprised
First war you are following?
There is no war.
>buddy puts his fingers right in the gap the massive metal door leaves
lololololol
i've seen video's of one single t90 destroying entire ukranian collumns. Why even break out the armata?
link?
Why would you use tanks in a static defensive battle?
We’ve reached best cope
>why would you need tanks in a war lmao?
Its not cope you pea brained retatd. Why would you use a tank in static defense? Thats last stand tier shit. You're just going to get btfo by artillery.
What does a tank have? Armor, mobiliy and firepower. If your not using the mobility there is no point in using them over any old at gun or atgm. Have a squad dig down with an atgm and they have the same firepower as a tank while also having more "armor" and being easier to hide. And its cheaper.
> easier to hide
The tank can still reposition out of its scrape once it has revealed its position or been recon'd.
To provide direct fire at up to 4km range? To quickly and efficiently destroy enemy armour?
Atgm does both of that and they are in no risk of being rolled over if they are behind a minefields, ditches and concrete hedges.
There are drones everywhere, they dont need to fire to be revealed.
Its just smarter to keep your armor out of range from artillery and ready to plug any gap if the ukranians break through and make manouver warfare a reality again.
> they dont need to fire to be revealed.
Nice diversion. You were arguing about tanks not having any distinct advantages to fortified artillery positions. But nvm, don't bother to respond, I already discerned you as yet another /k/tard
>You were arguing about tanks not having any distinct advantages to fortified artillery positions.
Because they barely do, not when you factor in the cost anyway. An at gun with an old shitty mtlb that tow it away is a fraction of the cost but almost as effective.
You're a retarded german autist that cant do a cost benefit analysis. Thats why you guys made dumb shit like king tiger and maus.
Atgm squad
>has slower RoF
>worse optics
>less amunition
>Is not protected against autocannon and shrapnel
>has much worse mobility
ATGM squad will do if there is one or two IFVs. If enemy is coming in force , you want tank. Just as you want tank if your defensive positions were bombed to shit.
>Atgm squad
>>has slower RoF
optics
>>less amunition
>>Is not protected against autocannon and shrapnel
>>has much worse mobility
Yes, but you get lots of atgm squads for the cost of one tank. You want the tanks hidden behind the front, ready to counter attack if there is a break through/risk of one.
>Yes, but you get lots of atgm squads for the cost of one tank.
And you get a lot of tank shells per the cost of one ATGM. And the tank will have more firepower per 3 men.
Its a matter of cost balancing, with tanks having an edge on flat plains and against concentrated enemy forces.
Still waiting for the XM1202, XM1206, and the Ground Combat Vehicle.
>meanwhile in fort bragg
"woha Jackson's cock really is big."
haven't saw anything newest from you either
well,
the Russians, nay, any nation with technogy,
i think knows when the weapons are bought, how and where they go
what where it goes and to. tech is do amazing how can such shipments be hiidden? anons?
They don't hide the shipments
The russians have no balls to sink one
yes, but they know right where they are in UKRAINE.
they would sink on till it gets there because the seem to have some semblance of understanding international and wartime law
That's not necessarily true.
I remember in the early stages of the war, they would follow the shipments to their end destinations and then hit them with cruise missiles.
But you're right. There are no secrets with these shipments. But logistics are expensive.
You mean blow up a NATO ship in NATO waters?
I’m noticing the intelligence level on this board has dropped somewhat since around February of last year. Must be my imagination
good thing Moor opinions don't matter.
now that you're done will you kindly kill yourself and free your land from the Burden of having you walk it's ground everyday.
Oh no, that invincible Russian navy. Whatever will the USA do to cross the Atlantic now?
Who said anything about a navy. Just send a few missiles and blame Ukraine saying they're trying to false flag because they know they're losing and desperate.
This may shock you but nobody believes russia's easily proven lies.
They've been repeated caught in bald faced lies and retarded vatniks just keep memoryholing it.
Kek. Shush now USA. Let's not try deflection here, this isn't Tumblr, it doesn't go over well mkay? Now have your last word and off you pop eh champ? Good boy.
Motherfucker you're in thailand. You're either pedophile tourist or a shitskin third worlder.
The fact that you're allowed to use the internet and pretend you have a valid opinion should be a warcrime.
>Can you remind us of a few of these lies, please?
Moskova returned to port under its own power
8 bradleys destroyed before any were shipped
No panic in kharkiv
No panic in Kherson
Kyiv was a good will gesture
Kyiv was actually a treaty with ukraine that they totally broke
And the classic, "get rid of your nukes and we promise we won't ever invade you"
That's off the top of my head. Im sure there are tons more.
>kyiv
>treaty with ukraine that they totally broke
>it was real in my mind
Damn wouldn't it suck if this shit was extremely easy to find?
Oh yeah I almost forgot I included the phrase "easily proven lies"
Show me the moscova in port.
OH yeah, peace talks. Fuck i totally forgot https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/12/13/merkels-confession-could-be-a-pretext-for-an-international-tribunal/
>instantly abandons his position and retreats to whataboutism
Lmao the russian nature really shines through.
>Ad-hominem
>whataboutism
>laughingfaces.wav
>muh ebil russkies
>muh good goy ukies
Zersetzer gehören aufgehängt. Abschaum.
Still waiting for that picture of moskova in port, Ivan.
>retreats from the thread
Fuckin russians, man.
It's as real as the NATO promise to never expand.
>easily proven lies
>bald faced lies
Its like reading disinfo in realtime. They are not even trying to be subtle anymore, its actually kinda sad. Your kike masters atleast tried to be subtle back then but forgot to change the filenames and hebrew gibberish stuck out like a sore thump
see
>"NOOO RUSSIA NEVER LIES" The retard said, lying.
>easily proven
>continues to post without any merit to his claims >just believe me
>kyiv
who lies more, the american big tech with billions in lies management technology and printed gibs by FED to prop them up
or sanctioned russia?
Russia.
By a wide margin.
Just because you live in a different informational sphere doesn't mean the opposite doesn't exist in a comparable manner.
It's all about exposure, you filthy naggers.
J, you see RS's latest.
Bus
These fancy schmancy tanks are the sportcars he's referring to. Thrown under the Russkie bus.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/427876959/#q427878163
Russia will fire off a few missiles through NATO air space into the Atlantic ocean?
Nah I was thinking once it makes land maybe, I'm assuming there's a limit to how far the escort can go once it hits Ukraine and I'm assuming Russia is going to know exactly where these tanks are and be following them.
Why would Russia lie just to draw attention to the obvious fact that Ukraine has no chance?
Can you remind us of a few of these lies, please?
>Oh no, that invincible Russian navy. Whatever will the USA do to cross the Atlantic now?
Russia can just wait until all American ship captains are Shaniquas, who cant even navigate in ports.
Russia won't attack the US and vice versa. Russia is still part of the alliance in the "War on Terror"
I wonder if that action have ever escalated a war.
YOU'RE
SO
FUCKING STUPID MAN
naggers
>first post most retarded post
>its made by some 3rd world thai tranny
>yet another subhuman shitskin is pro zigger
surprise surprise
I actually wouldn't shed a tear if the entire transport was blown the fuck out
You supid nagger
theres more than 6 in this pic alone lmao
>le ebig pic
You people are fucking pathetic
Russia is on its knees begging for every last scrap of positive spin
>Russia is on its knees begging for every last scrap of positive spin
Where are you getting this from? They have repelled the counter offensive for 3 months
Laying an infinite amount of mines rendering any territory you have completely useless ain’t repelling shit. CO is moving slowly but considering it’s not covered by air support, it’s having to slug through infinity mines and its constantly harassed by russians who do have air superiority id say advancing at all is an achievement, let alone conquering towns and moving through defensive lines
>CO is moving slowly but considering it’s not covered by air support, it’s having to slug through infinity mines and its constantly harassed by russians who do have air superiority id say advancing at all is an achievement
Have you considered that maybe trying to bruteforce way through such defensive lines might be a waste of munitions, armour and manpower?
They’re not really sending people to die one per mine are they, it’s sluggish because they’re having to Bangalore torpedo or cluster ammo thorough lines across the minefields. If they were simply running tanks into minefields I doubt they’d get anywhere at all. If there was any waste they would have been defeated plain and simple.
If anything they’re pushing through without air superiority which in and of itself is an incredibly admirable achievement
What the fuck does that even mean? Nobody’s winning at the moment you fuck faced retard. Ukraine is advancing through infinity mines under constant harassment by artillery and with no air cover and its still managing to kick russians out. Taking a bunch of territory isn’t winning, winning is done at the end you fucking asiatic. They’re advancing. Advancing is what Ukraine needs to do to regain control of their territory. Plain and simple so a retard like you gets it
>What the fuck does that even mean?
You were implying that they would have great success if it simply wasn't for the minefields
Yes, they would, were coming up to the 1 year anniversary of Kharkiv and Kherson counteroffensives and those were achieved with fucking humvees and cars alongside old soviet tanks and a bunch of APCs, again without air superiority, again under artillery fire, but without the minefields.
Minefields are a time saver, that’s it. No army that was successful ever relied solely on inert unmoving pieces of explosives
If you're so smart and omniscient on the state of the battlefield, then tell us for how long the conflict will last and how it will end
You ask interesting questions but you ask them like a retard. I can tell you’re not a complete idiot but to me we’re gonna need at least 2 more years if not more.
It’s gonna be interesting watching russian troops react to the supposed disbanding of Wagner seeing as even Wagnerites often said they were better motivated than russian troops.
If Putin mobilises again then we might see a longer timeline but honestly the real effects of prygos death will be seen within the next months and it’s a big question mark.
Mh…
Once an area is liberated demining the routes to recover hardware isnt hard at all
Lend lease isn’t a guarantee for shit if the troops aren’t motivated and have a modicum of cohesion or inventiveness.
Most western military strategists gave Ukraine a bunch of months to live that’s it. Aide only arrived once the west saw the Ukrainians were capable of fighting and didn’t just fold a-la Afghan government
>Once an area is liberated demining the routes to recover hardware isnt hard at all
Once
Yeah, le ebig pic has already been liberated
You do realise Ukrainians are already past the first line of defense yes?
White line from right to Down is the first line of defense and it’s already breached on one side. Mostly by grey zone but still breached
>Is this info straight from the ghost of queef xirself?
Wtf is its name, Janine Syrillo? Anyway, nice "reverse encirclement" the classic Ukrainian pincer move, which is capturing 1000 square meters of land.
stop typing and lurk more
Is this info straight from the ghost of queef xirself?
>we’re gonna need
>we
Ukraine has already suffered around 70,000 casualties during this "counteroffensive", without making any significant progress. Russians can just chill and lean back as wave after wave of fresh Ukrainian conscript meat walks into the designated kill zones and gets blown apart without ever having seen a Russian soldier. It's a turkey shoot.
>If there was any waste they would have been defeated plain and simple
nagger what the fuck are you on about. Hohols are literally trying to zerg the Russians out regardless of "waste", hence all of the retarded begging, conscription, and human wave tactics. These homosexuals have literally been dragging off hohols off the streets non-stop since the start of the war. They don't give a fuck how much "waste" there is. Why do you think they never mention hohol casualties whenever they talk about Russian casualties? As long as they can impress the west to keep the gib money flowing they don't give a fuck, it's not like they're the ones doing the dying. Shit, this entire war I can only recall once where ukraine decided to retreat and that was early on in severodonetsk. After that zelenskike said fuck all of that, no more retreating IDGAF how wasteful it is which led to the retardation at bakhmut. Dumbass shitalian homosexual kys
Finally someone with common sense in this godforsaken thread, jesus tapdancin' christ. Its either baitposting or geniune retardation on this board nowadays. Man, back when we had sleepover gaza threads and now look at this board, pic related: oc made during gaza threads back in 09
So you're saying Ukraine is winning because mines don't count?
what town did they conquer lmao
they still havent even reached the first line btw
>mines don't count
You're as pathetic as vaxxies trying to defend the jab.
Can’t counter argue but brings the vax into the convo.
Out of curiosity what’s your stance on sinovax and sputnik? Just checking if you’re consistent or if you stick to party rhetoric like a good bot
>Laying an infinite amount of mines rendering any territory you have completely useless ain’t repelling shit
If that territory is rendered useless, what's the point for Ukraine to get it back? And why are you happy about them getting any inch of it back?
True but nothing will stop the horde of unarmed Russian orcs from overwhelming any defense, a massive blunder overall for them but Russians live and breathe copium for treating others like shit
Luckily even drunk hordes of naggers can be stopped by a machine gun as the British so valiantly showed in Zulu land
Yeah Putin has been all over the world and every channel known to man begging for money and weapons.
He even said
>thank you'd are not tanks
Hes super desperate and on cocaine
This but unironically
And not Putin but his cronies. Shoigu to South Korea, horseface to the desert naggers. With friends like theZe!!!!
Also Contrary to Zelensky if Putin takes a step outside of Russia he fucking dies. Even if he goes to an allied country like South Africa lmao
Theyve destroyed 50 though, this is known. Ukraine received 50, and now theyre begging for more. That means 50 are gone.
and approaching 300 billion dollars???
l!!
Is known by whom? Lmao most Bradley’s that have been knocked out have been repaired or can be repaired. Even le ebig pic of le dead brooodleys that all of russia jacks off to is now Ukrainian territory and those vehicles that could be salvaged were
Everyone of the people in the country you live in wants you dead, doesn’t matter how hard you say you’re one of the good russians. They know you’re just a fucking snitch rat and you’ll get what you deserve
>have been repaired or can be repaired
Picrel is the same spot
, before ZSU tried to "recover and repair" the bradleys.
Very cool, let’s see Paul Allen’s photo now, or reports of them all having been taken to Poland for repair
Ah yes, those deaths in the 6-8 figures at every counter offensive. I read this exact same shit last year for the Kherson CO, everyone was dead, CO was too slow, allies were gonna pull the plug. Fucking repetitive
>reports of them all having been taken to Poland for repair
no shit brain those hulls are done. No repairing them by euroshits with their tiny brains. shitalian doesn't know about composite hulls
>chimpout
Hulls are mostly intact lmao, no matter your “how do magnets work” shit for brains chimpout. It’s already been confirmed that those alongside many other items are being repaired.
I guess nothing short of putting tires on top of planes to protect them from missile strikes can compute to your chink brain
That multipolar world is coming along so well
You don't seem to understand anything about this war. Please stop talking.
I am sorry that the Ukrainian wave tactics are boring you. You could tell them to stop they might listen to you.
>Is known by whom?
By people with IQ over 80.
>Lmao most Bradley’s that have been knocked out have been repaired or can be repaired.
Open a workshop in the minefield, or send a recovery vehicle into a minefield?
>Ukraines army could have invaded and destroyed Canada, very easily. Simp.
There is nothing worth having in Canada, but I would welcome the fire.
>russia is fighting all of nato!!
>Holy cope, chang
That is exactly what is happening. Exactly. You ate just too vaginal to do it openly, so you hide behind a paper of Ukraine. Half your soldiers are in Ukraine on 'vacation', that is why you have a manpower shortage at home, and you have depleted the warehouses of all missiles, shells and ammo for Ukraine.
No, 6 have been destroyed. Some of those were simply disabled and are being repaired.
Do you think posting random memes will make you look like you belong here?
HELLO FELLOW KIDS
>posting random memes will make you look like you belong here
case in point
Whatever, leaf. (Day of the Rake, when?)
Italy is on its knees sucking African cocks. Ask meloni.
Now shut up and kiss me
I get off knowing the fact they're are no more blonde white people in Italy, just shitskins and Moors.
Are you a fucking Muslim immigrant that's scared that white people are going to fucking throw you out of their country when the Russians come through
I agree Russia is fucking pathetic ho
>vatnagger are still sharing the same 8 weeks old picture
Those are Russian Bradleys.
Anon knows. Russians lost numerous Bradleys and Leopards in israelitecraine.
>puts all your armor 2 feet from each other
>gets destroyed
How did the low IQ ukrainians decide to shove their help into tiny bottle necks
NATO ordered them to
I'm just going to assume it's because they didn't want to spread their formation out over a huge minefield, even if they had a mineclearer it would be destroyed by AT rockets and artillery, tanks are pretty dogshit in modern warfare, it's not like WW2 where they could only be destroyed by unguided munitions or other tanks.
Surely Russia will run out of mines at this rate.
Looks like somebody’s been playing Command and Conquer!
>feature creep
This is happening with regular cars too. Too many features in the name of "luxury".
a fckng nggr?
those are 50. They will be spread out all across the front; two or three here, a couple there, etc.
Then, we'll see 20 webms where they all get destroyed.
Where is actually cool tech, mutt? I want to see Lazer tanks and prisma cannons.
Avengers will deliver latest Stark Eternises technology
They rekt something in the range of 40-60% of Bradleys, Leos and M777s officially delivered.
For someone winning Putin looks really desperate here, even Kim is like "why the fuck this nigga looking at me with fucky eyes"
>I talk like a nagger because I think it makes me look cool.
Opinion discarded.
God bless America. Hope all this vehicles will kill many russians.
where are your tanks, churkas?
On the battlefield, duh
t34 can penetrate three bradlies in line you filthy goim
here is your grandparents though
>he fell for it
It's deeply symbolical. My interpretation is that the lone tank represents a lone Russia moving on, enduring, and prevailing against the tyrannical west. They didn't need to do a lavish parade. They've been doing those for decades. It would've been a juicy target for a terror attack.
Not that /misc/ would understand. This place is infested with tranny zoomers who unironically consume TikToks on a hourly basis.
Former Bradley anon here.
Remember when the US finally agreed to send Ukraine depleted uranium ammo? Like a week ago?
That ammo was 25mm AP for the Bradley main gun. Meaning that we knowingly sent the Ukrainians into combat armed only with 25mm HE which is ineffective against armor.
Why the fuck would you use Bradley’s against armor?
Like yeah maybe a bunch of bradleys can take on a tank but it’s not what they’re used for
25mm AP will punch right through tank armor. I engaged Iraqi tanks with it during the invasion.
However, you are correct that a Bradley is not suited for direct engament of with tank. Especially when using only HE.
Based and tbh Bradleys have faced off against soviet tanks for more than 2 decades now so I’d say they’re up for the challenge.
But I think modern NATO doctrine doesn’t like to pit IFVs against Tanks even if in the past they’ve gambled as such. I think it’s more up to infantry with portable anti tank guns and armor on armor warfare
Cool
brad is a troop transport, not a tank destroyer or an MBT.
even if it's carrying mechanized who can dismount with AT weapons, they'd be engaged before they got within 10% of max range of handheld AT weapons
they've got what, 8 ATGMs? but they need 10 seconds on target to land a shot and in the meantime they get snapped by a glancing blow from a T72 AP round
>25mm AP will punch right through tank armor.
Assuming the tank is a T-72M1 or worse, then yes
Bradley is combat taxi
this is the only way how it can be used in real war
it cant enither hit nor pierce anything and it is too big and too slow for combat
it has too small gun for its size, so it is lirerally useless (except role of taxi)
ukraine lost >50 of this vehicles already, they did not have any impact at all
current wunderwaffe is unknown
challenger 2 was debunked few day ago, shills were on vacations and did not create new one yet
>it cant enither hit nor pierce anything and it is too big and too slow for combat
You should have seen them in Iraq. Against the T-72s 🙂
i think i understood the joke abiut muh gulf war..
it is same as "british made tank"
event took place 100 years ago against arabs, they just standed around and did not shoot
>it is same as "british made tank"
the bradley is not british nor a tank.
bradley is same as british made tank
battle taxi
with one way ticket
Ukies aren’t taking out modern Russian mbts with a bushmaster, maybe with the tows but realistically they’ll end up driving them into minefields.
Good for shooting up APC and AFVs.
You do realise that theres rarely any armour engagements in Ukraine? Except for that super kino lone tank 1v8 a hohol column.
> US army base poster
Do you realise there are autistics tracking every single unique image/video, doing 'purely confirmed' destroyed armor and casualties, and even they have the heavy armor losses of the counter offensive in the hundreds. Light armor / military vehicles is in the thousands.
Which again doesnt confirm that it engaged another armour. Most of the vehicles that get wrecked are through artillery, atgms, drones and mines. You hardly ever see tank vs tank engagements.
Oh, my bad. You're specifically saying tank vs tank. Yeah that's not happening. Russians are fully focused on stand off combat, forcing Ukrainians to plow through mine fields.
On the artillery duels, that's starting to look grim. I haven't seen any commentators noticing this, but the artillery losses according to Russian MOD and even confirmed by image/video is increasing, while Ukraine is at their lowest levels to date. Russia is clearly focusing on destroying artillery, radars, and anti-air as a priority.
It was up to 5 a day for a very long time. For the last two weeks it's been 12-15 per day being destroyed. Won't even matter if shells can be shipped in adequate numbers if they don't have the guns to fire them.
>but the artillery losses according to Russian MOD and even confirmed by image/video is increasing
it's over 30 a day without air superiority. insane.
>US poster
>using the cuck "u"
cmon nagger
They were shipped depleted uranium shells earlier this year. Russia blew them up.
Then you should know about "combined arms," and you should know that they aren't just using Bradleys alone, but with tanks, and artillery support.
But they arent, we have videos of them not doing it.
The only evidence I have seen is when they first tried to send some Bradleys forward without support. They stopped after they got pasted. At least that's what they said, who knows what desperation may cause.
However, the Russians are playing defense right now, relying on their mine fields and dug in postitions, which is the smart move on their part.
So it seems to me that tanks have sown themselves as a very bad option in this war. Absolute death traps. Why do people keep using them?
Wrong.
Tanks are essential to this time of warfare.
>oh, look they are blowing up tanks
Yeah, and?
No one ever said that tanks are invulnerable.
I hate Ukraine
I hate Russia
But most of all I think I'm starting to hate Poland more than both combined with their warmongering trying to drag America into WWIII. Poland is like that short guy always starting fights hoping his friends will back him up.
now give them all your F-16's
aren't the germans paying because they faked a genocide where real genocides are hidden
there no way in hell you're getting your shit back
>Next shipment incoming
Well at least your military industrial base is primarily within your borders
>right?
i don't get the tank fetish you are fighting someone with air strikes and proper anti tank weapons
Two more wunderwaffen shipments and Schweiner counter offensive will succeed.
Its cockholes, not hohols!
I wonder how russian identity is changing now that we’ve empirically established Ukrainians are more powerful than you.
I bet you always saw them as your retarded cousins and now they’re mass killing you.
I remember my russian flat mate in the Uk showed me a movie about a russian kid in america and the bad guys were the Ukrainian mafia. Lmao you people always hated them, brotherly people my ass
>This post was written by LULZGPT automatic response system
>empirically established Ukrainians are more powerful
Ukraine is on life support by NATO in every aspect.
nagger
UKRAINE IS RUSSIA!!!
They are going to shut down this thread soon, /misc/ owning them too hard.
Luckily archive will show it.
The offensyv is making its way to maritimes currently columns of heavy meats is taking up the road.
bradleys or not, they do not have the man power to do shit. they need more men for an offensive.
russia also needs more men to finish this. they tried with a quick offensive, fail. they need multiple millions and then will steamroll
you do realize every time one gets hit somebody dies right?
how many more men can ukraine send to the slaughter before they run out of men hmm?
they are already resorting to kidnapping people off the street and their women are sucking german cock as we speak
Enough with the fakes you ruzzian shill. No bradleys were destroyed. Any bradley that received so much as a chipped paint damage has been towed across the border into Poland and repaired there. In fact, Poles are so good at repairing bradleys that they built 6 extra ones out of the spare parts, in yet another military miracle.
>makes fun of repairable bradleys
>puts tires on bombers to protect them from drone attacks
Lmao
With that kind of supply they might manage to retake TWO villages.
>Next shipment incoming
80% are deadlined, they barely managed to haul them to the ship.
even worse they are shipping them out of NTC, worn out garbage
fuck the nafo trannie is an expert bradley mechanic now.
Go back to r/weapons, retarded troons
I don't get it. Where the fuck is the duct tape?
Apparently the upside-down cross was supposed to be "duct taped", according to that op, but an actual /k/ommando proved him wrong.
I don't know why you're happy about this.The outcome should be obvious. Without air superiority and a means to clear mine fields, these are just going to get scrapped.
And whomever controls the battlefield last gets all the trophies. Each one of those is worth tens of thousands of dollars as raw metal. Russia is just going to drag them of the field, melt them down, and remake new tanks. They wouldn't be making money from it, but it certainly does subsidise their costs. They're going to get some of the richest farm and resource land in the world eventually though. And a few million new people who are culturally compatible.
Meanwhile, nothing is ever going to flow back towards the American or EU taxpayers.
>And whomever controls the battlefield last gets all the trophies. Each one of those is worth tens of thousands of dollars as raw metal
Based and supreme commanderpilled
So more Ukrainians will die in the name of LGTB empire.
Grotesque.
Don't worry, Zelensky is going to replace them with Africans and has already said so
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-looking-4-5-million-100541722.html
Look at this neat photo from 1991, that'll definitely own Russia
yea these shits went to korea
https://breakingdefense.com/2016/03/us-army-plans-stockpiles-in-vietnam-cambodia-hello-china/
He took the time to change the file name to "IMG_1881.jpg" in order to pretend he was the one snapping that pic. These teenage Eglin propagandists need to go wash some rocks.
>change the file name to "IMG_1881.jpg"
they started doing that shit about 7-8 months
What is that on the pic, is it a troop carrier? Or a tank-killer? A tank in its own right? AA? Or a recon vehicle?
If you lost all of those, or lose some at a sustained pace, say if the war was to go hot and you had to directly engage in conventional warfare; how long would it take to replace them? Do you even make them anymore?
The US just commissioned 600 nukes. There’s no direct conflict happening. Especially not with tanks.
Putin: "don't worry comrades, we have more men than the west has bullets! They'll eventually run out of bullets surely?"
and you still couldn't beat a few cavemen with AKs.
whatever just dont give them to hohols they will wreck them
You made this nigga a lot of money.
Keep going.
no bakhmut? counteroffensyiv sissies where we at?
Reminder that russia STILL hasn’t taken Bakhmut
have some (you)'s
Russia is going to win tho
2 more weeks and the gloves are off!
190 bradleys delivered, around 70 destroyed so far
source: read it in a telegram yesterday
hey um, couldn't we use those Bradleys to patrol our southern border, or something?
Oh wow six tanks, that’s how many tanks Russia has left.
>1pbtid
All hol hol spam is cheap bot work and embarrassing.
Enjoy your 90 IQ non white replies
So is it safe to say that Russia is no longer the #2 army in the world at this point? They've lost over 4000 tanks, etc.
Safe to say they never were.
It's easy to see why Russian posts are so pathetic when you remember that the Russian mind is very similar to that of the negroid races, simply not evolved for complex though or understanding. Their ork hordes call for their ancient leader (the israelite) but in this unusual situation the israelite is divided between their love of cheap oil and their desire to eliminate Syria as a potential threat. The israelite is uncertain which side to support and waffles, causing the orks to hurt themselves in their confusion. Ukraine, being israeli itself is able to muster itself, as Zelenskyy is capable of coherent human expression he can guide his ork hordes. Meanwhile in Russia Putin and his part Asian friends are able to use the small amounts of intelligence bred into the Russian by the mongol hordes to understand that attack is good. How this will end I couldn't tell you, but it's reassuring to know that at the very least the Slavic population of the world will be thankfully reduced, greatly improving the general smell of Eurasia.
You do realize all across the front they ain't getting any video footage right now. Fucking hundreds of these things that we sent could be getting destroyed
shit, looks like the west is funding a war of attrition against Russia at this stage. Same reason Russia won ww2 with USA supplying and funding Russia's war machine. Except Russia is in an even weaker standing today than Nazi Germany was because more coordinated globalism. Good job israelitetin you fucking tool
I think at this point Russia would love to just grind it out. That's why they built all of those defensive works.
Ukraine is in the worst postion, because they are the grist for that grinding mill, and they are likely to lose that kind of war.
Ukraine is completely fucked unless they BTFO the Russians quickly, not just in a worse position. For a couple of reasons:
1) They can't afford to lose many more people and the longer this goes on, the more people they'll lose.
2) They depend 100% on USA funding their government, at some point USA might backstab them and once they do it's over.
So they need to win before they run out of people or USA backstabs them. Both will happen eventually and I wouldn't put my money on "Russia has 2 weeks until total economic collapse" happening before it.
ah, the sweet sound of retribution, enjoy these next few months, pignaggers, because they are very likely to be your last
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no one cares about your tranny army amerimutt
Got a link for this, fren?
Thanks.
Bradley's are obsolete. US send catapults. They work better.
israelites draining the us taxpayer even more.
they israelite of the synagogue of satan love to see gear like this get rekt so they can sell the goys some more.
you sound too emotionally attached to this war
very suspicious
SUS
AMOGUS
WAGNER HAS FALLEN
I WILL MISS
PRIGOZHIN
& HIS SILLY DRUNK POSTING
Russia only needs 500 well placed mines and it will be over for Brad
>6 Bradley's
>We sent 50
Yeah I'm sure maybe 50 the Saudis have 400 they got over 100
Nice render. Which game is it?
>destroyed 6 Bradley’s
The absolute state of /k/opefags and nafo trannies.
>puccia destroyed 6 Bradley’s