>the faith points to developing a relationship with God
Wrong denomination, wrong/false god
Bible Protestants worship best friend Jesus, boyfriend Jesus, career Jesus, etc
I'm not a Protestant. But what I do know, is that they adhere to the Bible. You still have much to learn, my friend. If you search deep enough, you will find flaws in all denominations.
Though I don't agree on some of their interpretation, I don't really know much about them other than what I've come across on this board. I don't care to learn about denominations, because that's not what the faith is about.
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>I don't care to learn about denominations, because that's not what the faith is about.
Yea, I don't agree with that either. But again, if you really want, you can find flaws in all denominations.
>if you really want, you can find flaws in all denominations
If there is no church teaching a correct Jesus then Jesus lied and his mission failed lol
2 years ago
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>If there is no church teaching a correct Jesus then Jesus lied and his mission failed lol
Yes. Look at the world right now and tell me Jesus didn't fail.
2 years ago
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“You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.”
- Jesus of Nazareth, speaking to his disciples
Protestants twist and turn whatever is in the Bible to suit their own worldly desires. Best example is all the gay friendly prot churches in America.
2 years ago
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Yea, I don't agree with that either. But again, if you really want, you can find flaws in all denominations.
2 years ago
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There are plenty of "catholic" gay pushers to, dumbass, do you really think any of those people are actually of the faith? No, they're grifters preying on children while their young, convince them that homosexualry and other assorted ills are fine before they grow up so the church deteriorates more and more. They're not going to convince adults so they target the next generation.
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Not much different than Catholics who only use the bible when it suits them.
>they adhere to the Bible
Oh yes because the Bible is a living authority right, and not a literal book, literal markings on a page that people twist in 1000 directions according to their own sinful passions. That’s so wise anon
2 years ago
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The Bible is legitimate, I'm sorry you didn't get anything out of it.
2 years ago
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I’m not saying it’s not legitimately from God. But it’s not a living authority, it’s not God Himself, it’s merely God’s book
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It is a roadmap to find God.
>I don't care to learn about denominations, because that's not what the faith is about.
[...] >if you really want, you can find flaws in all denominations
If there is no church teaching a correct Jesus then Jesus lied and his mission failed lol
All it does is point out the flaw in humanity, that corruption reigns deep within man. Jesus touched on spiritual matters that I don't think you understand, but given that you are trolling I don't think it's something that you even care to discuss in the first place, so I'll end our discussion here.
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>It is a roadmap to find God
It’s a roadmap to find the Church, which contains the orthodox teaching of the scriptures (through the guidance of Christ and the Spirit), and which the Bible speaks of over and over again in its pages > I'll end our discussion here
Yea sure bud
2 years ago
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It goes beyond well beyond that, again. I'm sorry you didn't get the main point of what it meant to relay. But then again, it's not for everyone to understand, and Jesus made that clear.
2 years ago
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>I'm sorry you didn't get the main point of what it meant to relay
It’s meant to relay something other than the remembrance of Jesus Christ (the full revelation of God)? What would that be anon?
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Yes, it is meant to relay something more. Pearls before swine.
2 years ago
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I guarantee you that there is no revelation greater than the person of Jesus Christ in this epoch. What would that even be?
2 years ago
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> circular reasoning > extreme arrogance
pic related is catholicism in a nutshell
2 years ago
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Checked. Wait, am I talking to a Catholic? I genuinely had no idea.
2 years ago
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Checked. Wait, am I talking to a Catholic? I genuinely had no idea.
No youre not. he is coping
2 years ago
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What's the alternative then? Letting a clergy tell you how to think instead like Catholics?
2 years ago
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No one says you can’t think for yourself. Think for yourself as to whether it’s a good idea to submit to Jesus Christ or not via the apostles sent by Him into the world. No one is forcing you to do anything
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Not currently, yeah, but for most of history, Catholics DID force people to submit to them. Literally gave them a "join the Church or die" ultimatum. Sometimes even killed other loyal Catholics like the cartoon supervillains they are.
>it’s merely God’s book
…Meaning (I should explain more) if you “adhere” to it you can get whatever the frick you want out of it, because you’re not actually adhering to God (Jesus) himself, Who is the Word and the living authority on faith
It's more than just reading, it's about putting to action what you learn. This is something that is explained in the scriptures. True understanding is a gift from God. Sure, anyone can read from it and come up with their own understanding, but there does exist a objective understanding of what it is meant to relay, and again; scripture touches on this.
I don't adhere to a Church, I follow Jesus Christ.
2 years ago
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>I follow Jesus Christ
Mormons say the same. Means nothing to say
2 years ago
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I'm sure they do. So does the kid at the catholic church who will go home and watch pornhub on his ipad, play fortnite after and say a bunch of degenerate stuff online and forget everything the priest said at mass. It's not about the denomination, I hope you people realize that one day.
2 years ago
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>It's not about the denomination
WHAT’S not about denomination? Who receives a positive judgment? That is well known. There will be many surprises on the last day. Doesn’t mean Jesus didn’t leave behind a church guided by the Spirit to teach scripture authoritatively. It says so in the Bible
2 years ago
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You are free to believe whatever you want. I really see no reason to stay in this thread and continue this discussion, it seems fruitless to me. Have a good day.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What exactly do you disagree with in the post you just quoted? What exactly are you saying “is not about denomination at the end of the day”? Be specific.
2 years ago
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Hahaha. Look up the Donation of Constantine.
2 years ago
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The Roman bishop is pure evil that’s well known LOL
Not currently, yeah, but for most of history, Catholics DID force people to submit to them. Literally gave them a "join the Church or die" ultimatum. Sometimes even killed other loyal Catholics like the cartoon supervillains they are.
I’m talking about inner submission, what you think inside your head and whether you believe Christ. That you are always free to do whether or not competing religious practices are proscribed or not. (The Christian claim is that submission to Christ is good btw)
2 years ago
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You said "No one says you can’t think for yourself," which is incorrect. Catholics say you can't think for yourself, it is the entire crux of their belief. Also, believing in Christ isn't good enough for Catholics, given how they butchered Protestants, Cathars, Orthodox, and other non-Catholic Christians. And I'm pretty sure "inner submission" is irrelevant when you're fricking dead.
2 years ago
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Even if a member of the Vatican’s Swiss guard forced you you convert at the sword, and you faked conversion and went through the motions just to keep your own life (rather than choosing to become a martyr for some other faith), you would still always maintain the inner choice to
Of course, conversion by sword isn’t from Christ, and thankfully it wasn’t practised in the ORTHODOX parts of the empire (although under some emperors, pagans were ordered to attend church and be baptized, in the spirit of uniting the realm under the faith, and israelites and Samaritans were barred from receiving dowries or inheritances unless they converted. But they didn’t butcher. Guess what, if there is a Christian society that wants to be Christian, and you don’t want to be, then put on your fedora, and leave!
2 years ago
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>Guess what, if there is a Christian society that wants to be Christian, and you don’t want to be, then put on your fedora, and leave!
Tell that to the Muslims and pagans who had their native lands invaded and conquered. I guess that Muslim child in Jerusalem who got torn out of its mother's belly by a Crusader should've just put on its fedora and left, huh? Also, while Orthodox are definitely the LEAST moronic Christians, they still had their fair share of massacres. The Massacre of the Latins being the most infamous.
2 years ago
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>Also, while Orthodox are definitely the LEAST moronic Christians, they still had their fair share of massacres. The Massacre of the Latins being the most infamous
May the Lord bless and have mercy on the Orthodox people, especially the clergy (who, in orthodoxy, face the steepest uphill on the path to salvation)
not paranormal
This thread reeks of pride, OP. Denominations don't mean anything, the faith points to developing a relationship with God.
Jeremiah says “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord”
Amen. I mean, technically you're quoting Paul, but Paul is referencing Jeremiah.
>the faith points to developing a relationship with God
Wrong denomination, wrong/false god
Bible Protestants worship best friend Jesus, boyfriend Jesus, career Jesus, etc
I'm not a Protestant. But what I do know, is that they adhere to the Bible. You still have much to learn, my friend. If you search deep enough, you will find flaws in all denominations.
Though I don't agree on some of their interpretation, I don't really know much about them other than what I've come across on this board. I don't care to learn about denominations, because that's not what the faith is about.
>I don't care to learn about denominations, because that's not what the faith is about.
>if you really want, you can find flaws in all denominations
If there is no church teaching a correct Jesus then Jesus lied and his mission failed lol
>If there is no church teaching a correct Jesus then Jesus lied and his mission failed lol
Yes. Look at the world right now and tell me Jesus didn't fail.
“You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.”
- Jesus of Nazareth, speaking to his disciples
Protestants twist and turn whatever is in the Bible to suit their own worldly desires. Best example is all the gay friendly prot churches in America.
Yea, I don't agree with that either. But again, if you really want, you can find flaws in all denominations.
There are plenty of "catholic" gay pushers to, dumbass, do you really think any of those people are actually of the faith? No, they're grifters preying on children while their young, convince them that homosexualry and other assorted ills are fine before they grow up so the church deteriorates more and more. They're not going to convince adults so they target the next generation.
Not much different than Catholics who only use the bible when it suits them.
>they adhere to the Bible
Oh yes because the Bible is a living authority right, and not a literal book, literal markings on a page that people twist in 1000 directions according to their own sinful passions. That’s so wise anon
The Bible is legitimate, I'm sorry you didn't get anything out of it.
I’m not saying it’s not legitimately from God. But it’s not a living authority, it’s not God Himself, it’s merely God’s book
It is a roadmap to find God.
All it does is point out the flaw in humanity, that corruption reigns deep within man. Jesus touched on spiritual matters that I don't think you understand, but given that you are trolling I don't think it's something that you even care to discuss in the first place, so I'll end our discussion here.
>It is a roadmap to find God
It’s a roadmap to find the Church, which contains the orthodox teaching of the scriptures (through the guidance of Christ and the Spirit), and which the Bible speaks of over and over again in its pages
> I'll end our discussion here
Yea sure bud
It goes beyond well beyond that, again. I'm sorry you didn't get the main point of what it meant to relay. But then again, it's not for everyone to understand, and Jesus made that clear.
>I'm sorry you didn't get the main point of what it meant to relay
It’s meant to relay something other than the remembrance of Jesus Christ (the full revelation of God)? What would that be anon?
Yes, it is meant to relay something more. Pearls before swine.
I guarantee you that there is no revelation greater than the person of Jesus Christ in this epoch. What would that even be?
> circular reasoning
> extreme arrogance
pic related is catholicism in a nutshell
Checked. Wait, am I talking to a Catholic? I genuinely had no idea.
No youre not. he is coping
What's the alternative then? Letting a clergy tell you how to think instead like Catholics?
No one says you can’t think for yourself. Think for yourself as to whether it’s a good idea to submit to Jesus Christ or not via the apostles sent by Him into the world. No one is forcing you to do anything
Not currently, yeah, but for most of history, Catholics DID force people to submit to them. Literally gave them a "join the Church or die" ultimatum. Sometimes even killed other loyal Catholics like the cartoon supervillains they are.
All of them except mine, that is.
I'm the post that you quoted, but I don't follow a denomination.
I'm just shitposting.
We get it. You're an attention prostitute without original thoughts/a soul.
>it’s merely God’s book
…Meaning (I should explain more) if you “adhere” to it you can get whatever the frick you want out of it, because you’re not actually adhering to God (Jesus) himself, Who is the Word and the living authority on faith
It's more than just reading, it's about putting to action what you learn. This is something that is explained in the scriptures. True understanding is a gift from God. Sure, anyone can read from it and come up with their own understanding, but there does exist a objective understanding of what it is meant to relay, and again; scripture touches on this.
> there does exist a objective understanding of what it is meant to relay
Yes, which is why the astute reader through the Bible finds the church
Pozzed since 1054
I don't adhere to a Church, I follow Jesus Christ.
>I follow Jesus Christ
Mormons say the same. Means nothing to say
I'm sure they do. So does the kid at the catholic church who will go home and watch pornhub on his ipad, play fortnite after and say a bunch of degenerate stuff online and forget everything the priest said at mass. It's not about the denomination, I hope you people realize that one day.
>It's not about the denomination
WHAT’S not about denomination? Who receives a positive judgment? That is well known. There will be many surprises on the last day. Doesn’t mean Jesus didn’t leave behind a church guided by the Spirit to teach scripture authoritatively. It says so in the Bible
You are free to believe whatever you want. I really see no reason to stay in this thread and continue this discussion, it seems fruitless to me. Have a good day.
What exactly do you disagree with in the post you just quoted? What exactly are you saying “is not about denomination at the end of the day”? Be specific.
Hahaha. Look up the Donation of Constantine.
The Roman bishop is pure evil that’s well known LOL
I’m talking about inner submission, what you think inside your head and whether you believe Christ. That you are always free to do whether or not competing religious practices are proscribed or not. (The Christian claim is that submission to Christ is good btw)
You said "No one says you can’t think for yourself," which is incorrect. Catholics say you can't think for yourself, it is the entire crux of their belief. Also, believing in Christ isn't good enough for Catholics, given how they butchered Protestants, Cathars, Orthodox, and other non-Catholic Christians. And I'm pretty sure "inner submission" is irrelevant when you're fricking dead.
Even if a member of the Vatican’s Swiss guard forced you you convert at the sword, and you faked conversion and went through the motions just to keep your own life (rather than choosing to become a martyr for some other faith), you would still always maintain the inner choice to
Of course, conversion by sword isn’t from Christ, and thankfully it wasn’t practised in the ORTHODOX parts of the empire (although under some emperors, pagans were ordered to attend church and be baptized, in the spirit of uniting the realm under the faith, and israelites and Samaritans were barred from receiving dowries or inheritances unless they converted. But they didn’t butcher. Guess what, if there is a Christian society that wants to be Christian, and you don’t want to be, then put on your fedora, and leave!
>Guess what, if there is a Christian society that wants to be Christian, and you don’t want to be, then put on your fedora, and leave!
Tell that to the Muslims and pagans who had their native lands invaded and conquered. I guess that Muslim child in Jerusalem who got torn out of its mother's belly by a Crusader should've just put on its fedora and left, huh? Also, while Orthodox are definitely the LEAST moronic Christians, they still had their fair share of massacres. The Massacre of the Latins being the most infamous.
>Also, while Orthodox are definitely the LEAST moronic Christians, they still had their fair share of massacres. The Massacre of the Latins being the most infamous
May the Lord bless and have mercy on the Orthodox people, especially the clergy (who, in orthodoxy, face the steepest uphill on the path to salvation)
Catholicism isn't even a real religion anymore. It's just a bunch of moronic brown third-worlders praying to cards and coins and shit. Peak idolotry.
Why?
ooga booga boom made up by israelites wandering the desert high on ergot
* to believe what you wanted