https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/24/wagner-head-warns-of-revolution-after-claiming-20000-fighters-killed-in-bakhmut
PRIGOZHIN THREATENING REVOLUTION
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/24/wagner-head-warns-of-revolution-after-claiming-20000-fighters-killed-in-bakhmut
Come on OP, as funny as I think it would be, threatening to carry out a revolution and just saying one might happen aren't the same.
I'm sure that's exactly how the kremlin interprets it lmfao, it's a veiled threat and everyone knows it
In a dictatorship even mentioning the possibility of resistance is a threat. The whole system relies on people believing that they can't change anything.
The sun is out. The ass is being shaken.
The bear getting waxed. The hair is being removed strip by strip. Soon dills soon*~~))....
The musician, his ass quivering with rage
The pork is sizzling in the cauldron. More butter is needed.
Belgorod, when the panic wasn't
His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
>We will raise our ass, and Ukraine will understand everything
Prighozin, when the flanks collapsed
Putin, standing at the podium
>The ass is being shaken
Oh lawd, they givin them the Rus Shaker.
The cat is (still) laughing
He's right, the poor are dying and the elite sit in comfort, as well as their families, as they send the poor off to die.
I do not think Wagner group is threatening Putin, but moreso reacting to the developing situation with the separatist groups within Russia.
>I do not think Wagner group is threatening Putin, but moreso reacting to the developing situation with the separatist groups within Russia.
Though this may very well be a direct threat to the Kremlin, if interpreted in such a way. The Pirogi eyebrow is raised.
He's right but he's bullshitting. As in, he's part of the very same elite. In fact, I wonder how his own relatives are doing.
Probably living happily in a luxury apartment in Tel Aviv under the name Prigstein or something.
>As in, he's part of the very same elite.
Actually no, well, not exactly.
Prigozhin is actually pretty widely despised in Russian oligarch circles because of his humble (criminal) beginnings. They see him as an upstart, nouveau riche, a sewer rat with a crown.
stop ruining memes by adding the avatarfag watermark to it
absolute cancer that belong on normalfag internet, not LULZ
Nice work asshole now every meme on this board for the next six months will have the same shit
It is not like other oligarchs are from the nobility, so I doubt it. It is not like they are deciding if he is fit to marry their daughter...
>Poor are all dying
>"Ahhh shit uh um everyone is dying and we have no money or ammo out here uh ummm.... We need um uh.... More bodies to die."
No, anon, the Russian government of Putin is in charge, for now.
He could even fire Pierogi, but he is connected to Putin and the Kremlin, and is saying in a veiled way "we could turn around and remove you like the separatists, ending the war and taking control"
Because who is actually fighting the war and taking territories for the Kremlin? It is these human waves, the national forces, and this prison mercenary PMC group.
> He's right, the poor are dying and the elite sit in comfort
Literally every war or you believe the Prince Harry psy ops
more like modern war
even kings themselves used to lead campaigns and personally participate in combat back in the day
>Literally every war
You're a fucking retard.
The first world war practically destroyed the old aristocracy of Britain. Young upper class had the worst death rate by far of any demographic taking part in the war.
It was until ~~*universal democracy*~~ took over that the elite and wealthy stopped risking themselves on the field of battle, because they knew they could get away with it now that the plebs had been tricked into thinking they were in charge.
The thing is Russians are too stupid and disengaged these days to actually give a fuck. They bend over and take it as long as Putin is serving.
He's part of the controlled "opposition".
Think about it: are there any Russian personalities actually calling for an end to the war? No, they all complain that the MoD "isn't going far enough" or that "group X" needs to try harder.
Putin allows this because a) it keeps the lesser factions (MoD, Wagner, FSB, Gazprom, HOMO, etc) fighting with eachother instead of plotting against him, and b) it gets the Russian public worked up in a way that is generally pro-war "we are failing because we aren't raising our eyebrows enough!!"
It is so incredibly rare for Putin himself to ever be named or directly criticized. It's always the underlings who are responsible. Basically how the Czar did things up until the Reds had enough.
>Think about it: are there any Russian personalities actually calling for an end to the war?
Some famous artists did but of course they dont get broadcast anymore.
Dude, it is 15 months into the this war and Putin haven't even declared war yet. It is not 5D chess, it is just retardation and petty infighting.
Russians don't care about other Russians, especially lesser Russians. All theater.
How is that any different from any other war though?
He IS the Russian elite. His kids aren't in Wagner either.
He was a food caterer, or perhaps a gangster connected to the Kremlin.
Now he commands a penal army corporation that could very well co-operate with separatists like anti-Putin RVC and Cossacks, as well as the tsarists and other anti-Putin elements. Includes an ROC monk who denounced Putin in the name of Christ and was defrocked. That kicked off a lot of Cossack activity, protecting that monk from arrest.
Again, he's a billionaire oligarch with personal connections to Putin and his kids are off somewhere shaking their asses.
>his kids are off somewhere shaking their asses
He, however, is not - he's been in and around the fighting at Popasna and Bakhmut and that's an important distinction. The other oligarchs are not involved in the fighting, nor are their kids, or nephews, or anything.
he is just a front for GRU with some political ambitions
but if you have been paying attention everyone in Russia is building private armies and at some point even GRU might go 'well we could keep storming some town in Ukraine and die or we could just take the easier route and shoot some people in the Kremlin and take ALL the power'
most institutions in Russia are being degraded to the point of irrelevance and whoever has the most men with guns is going to come out on top
ARISE, ARISE CONVICTS OF PRIGHOZIN
ARSES SHALL BE SHAKEN
EYEBROWS SHALL BE LIFTED
GOIDA
GOIDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Prighozin riding in front of horde of hobo convicts dressed in faded multicam and screaming GOIDA is a mental picture I didn't know I needed
GOIDDAAAAAAAAA
GOIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Who is Goida?
It's a dutch cheese.
It's what the Tsar's secret police would shout when they killed boyars. Basically "huzzah"
The funniest thing is that it's derived from turkish 'haydi' (let's go) that made it's way into Russia through Ukraine from Crimea.
I'm gonna spponfeed. The ruskies had this gay event in the red square where one of the music artists kept a coked out speech and came up with a hypeword for the war, which is GOIDA. It kinda means "let's go" but more in "let's go kill shit" way
Spasiba Anon
I'll just add that vatnik media added fake crowd cheering sounds because the crowd wasn't even cheering. Turns out that if you control the population by making them apathetic they'll be apathetic to a war you want them to fight.
such a kino russia moment
>I'm gonna spponfeed
Stop doing this you homosexual.
A DBZ character I think
the speech in question
his teeth remind me of pic
?t=53
>dat ecco roll off
that guy is literally dressed like the devil
Goebbels vibes.
Funny shit, they fucking added fake cheers of the crowd
The truth is, the government is a small group of people, and the PMC and fighting forces are protecting them. If the PMC revolts, the rich political class are at he mercy of this convict army and the separatists.
It does not seem he has openly declared war, but is warning the government in power. Yes, he is connected to the elite, but as in Russia, that means they are a threat to each other.
>If the PMC revolts, the rich political class are at the mercy of this convict army and the separatists.
Russia would have to fight a war on two fronts, in Ukraine and on their own soil. You see how this revolt is a response to the war, as these people want to stop the war and have peace.
Excuse me? Who in Russia wants to stop the war, other than the very small group directly affected by it? You'll find that a large majority are as proud of their boys as Americans are when they see their flag in the wind in Whateverstan.
In this case though, Wagner would be exterminating Putin's Oprichnik wannabes.
Not that I think he has the balls to try it.
>REVOLUTION
Lol. No.
Wagner was intentionally ground down in Bakhmut to make sure it can't pose an internal threat to Putin...
>losing 20,000 soldiers
>to take a territory with a total population of 70k
what even
not a bad ratio. russia has 140m people, they can conquer ukraine with just about 11m casualties
I was told they'd stop only at the river rhine or berlin, how many casualties would that take?
Er, considering that we know they've been lying about their population numbers, as confirmed by Poot-Poot himself, we have to assume that the population would be -127,964,002 by the time they hit the Rhine.
>population numbers
what did I miss? Is this a reference to the 9.5M ''''added from registers''''?
>what did I miss?
Maybe the fact that the Soviets have been lying about their demographics since the 60s.
>Tfw you have to go into population debt
>casualties
Dead. Casualties of Bakhmut were 100,000 for Russia.
Okay so 55 million casualties. Not like the wounded can't be patched up and sent back to the front.
>One Soldier gets a left prosthetic leg the other gets the right. When the other soldier dies, the surviving one picks up his leg and keeps fighting.
>former total population of 70k
ftfy
unironically why hasn't prigozhin fallen out of a window yet
all of the windows in bakhmut were destroyed anon
Because he's been in Ukraine for at least the past month.
is he just going to stay in Ukraine forever?
There are no windows to fall out of in bunkers.
He refuses to go any higher than the ground floor.
He is kept alive because he is needed later, as the Designated Fall Guy.
Dubs of truth. Gonna miss that old orc. Gave us good memes.
might be too high profile to kill at the moment, also hes still contributing to the war effort despite all his kvetching
Can't be defenestrated if there are no fenesters to be de'd from
him and what army
>threaten revolution
>get more equiptment/supplies/fighters
>limited victory
>repeat
What's the chef's endgame here?
>get more equiptment/supplies/fighters
From where?
They cant exactly pull that shit out of their ass
Prigozhin may as well be asking some mcdonalds cashier for money
I'm guessing Putin has some stuff in reserve incase of a civil war.
I'm also assuming he's not giving kid named finger too much in terms of equipment to avoid him revolting against the current regime.
By saying he's about to lose UNLESS he gets extra weapons, he can then through the extra men/weapons into the meatgrinder until he overwhelms and "wins".
Defect and have Wagner join the free russian legion in exchange for warcrime immunity
Wow. What makes you think Wagner would be welcome anywhere? The Free Russians would probably get out the sledgehammers and snippers on sight.
The more i look at that pic the worse it gets
>real prisoners taking kremlin in a revolution
That would be a very russian kino.
Does anybody have the KIA to wounded rate for Russia from the leaks? Can we use that to extrapolate total Wagner causalities in Bakhmut?
>More dead in bakhmut than in 10 years of Afghanistan
>Girkin already saying this is an underestimate
Why did it go so wrong?
Everything went correct.
Ukrainian army didn't have enough weapons of mass destruction, if they had been properly provided then those numbers would have been even better.
But you can't be picky I guess.
Kremlin propagandist FIRED for interview with Prigogine.
20,000 killed is like 60,000 wounded, right?
So they lost something like 80,000 soldiers or more.
>20,000 killed is like 60,000 wounded, right?
They don't have functioning plates, they don't have functioning medevac, they don't have functioning field hospitals. If they had 20,000 that died then they probably had 10,000-20,000 wounded.
Whats the name of this warboss again?
> Profesional Ork PMC based on wagner
> WAAAAGner
> Boss with a sledgehammer
> Army split between "fodderboys" and "profesnuls" with big dakka
You just gave me a great idea for a new army theme anon, tnx.
Warboss Cookah The Ammoboy
>A Billionaire, Capitalist Neanderthal who literally bought peoples lives to gain metres is preaching about a class war he is actively engaged in.
Can't wait for Punished Prigozhin's comeback arc
If someone deserves a comeback arc, it's Ruslan Zhinin
It is funny that a lot of z-types on twatter are saying that Prigozhin is lying and making shit up, despite he standing to gain little for that(and potentially losing a lot, if the Shoigu decides to punish him) and giving videographic proof, multiple times, in fact, that Wagner have been losing dozens of contract soldiers as KIA daily in Bakhmut.
Pirogi says a lot of things.
Biber and Dolik linked up, feed it or sneed it?
100,000+ casualties over Bakhmut. wtf
>site of the world's first Communist revolution will now become site of the world's first PMC revolution
Haven't mercenaries killed their former employers (and vice versa) plenty of times throughout history?
I've heard that Prigozhin's bitching vids aren't seen in Russia. Is it due to state censoring or is it because they are made for a western audience?
I remember going to the vatnagger thread on /misc/ just to see their cope but they literally didn't mention any of it, hence I'm wondering if this ugly bald bastard is just doing an opera show for external propaganda. The strangest thing is that I don't even know why the fuck he would do it.
Is wagner still in bakmut after all? From all the vatnagger shill post it seem the wagnaggers are.
tho I must admit, it did give us some kino and good memes
Wagner are still in Bakmuth. They left the immediate frontline as regulars moved in to fill it, but have not left the town. I have a feeling they have not been allowed to.
As for Prig, he does a lot of screaming and shouting but whenever he gets in media to say one thing, the opposite is actually happening.
The hooligans have switched sides. Everything understands everything now.
https://nitter.privacydev.net/NOELreports/status/1661694147210756096#m
>ru forces looking at Wagner mercs leaving bakmuth via the ukranian frontlines
Post yfw after heavy fighting in Moscow between government and rebel forces, this flag flies over the Kremlin:
Tacky ass flag
Jannies?
Something tells me they are seething
how come h/uhg/ies don't understand what theater is? Prigozhin pretends to "btfo putler" all the time because it gets retards like you riled up
Don't think Putin in his wildest dreams expected Prizoghin to be a US asset.
>PRIGOZHIN
>rich people vacation
>poor people die in wars
It has been this way for a very long time. We have many, many examples of this in the US. Guess what? The rich are still there, even getting elected to office by the very people they sent to die.
In all honesty, it's not THAT much compared to what the West has been reporting earlier.
I mean, only 20'000 for a victory in a decisive battle of the war? That's like peanuts for Russia.
In 1943, when they were fighting Nazis on the same territories 80 years ago they've lost around 400'000 to regain control of East Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Dnieper
Siege of Berlin alone took 80'000 Soviet casualties back then. And at that point the war was already won. They just wanted to "get there first", so 80'000 KIA seemed a reasonable price. I wonder what sort of casualties would taking Berlin cause. I'm imagining over 10'000 for sure.
The revolution just flew over my house!!!
Dude is just asking for bag of cash and shiny medal