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Prequelzoomers will defend this scene.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you actually think about it, it is extremely based of George to do this. He isn't just creating a vague 'force', but has created a system in which it makes sense for some to be better at wielding the force than others. It justifies Qui Gon taking an interest in Anakin in the first place.

    Honestly 'super power destiny germs' are pretty cool. But Star Wars, since Empire, has always been a giant ret con.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not based. That's comic book/anime/vidya tier garbage.
      The original force was clearly based on all those oriental concepts of ki, chi or whatever. Prequel force is basically just a mutation, like Jedi are some retarded X-men. It's capeshit tier.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is still Ki, it’s just that the Force spoke through the midi-chlorians, allowing certain beings to use the Force if they were sensitive enough to its powers.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still, this scientific explanation kills the mysticism. But that's generally what the prequels did, killed all the mystery about Star Wars.
          I imagined the Jedi as a secret order of buddhist-like monks coming out of the shadows and helping the good guys when they needed it. Lucas gave me a creepy Jesuit-like order fully involved in the galactic politics.

          I don't like the direction this entire franchise moved. This includes the EU and everything else. I like the stories about spiritualism vs modern technology and the OT was such a story.
          The prequels demystified everything about Star Wars.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Still, this scientific explanation kills the mysticism
            How? It's not biological.
            >I imagined the Jedi as a secret order of buddhist-like monks coming out of the shadows and helping the good guys when they needed it.
            They are, the Jedi Order was not a military organization, they were incorporated into political matters during the war, but that doesn't make the Force or the Jedi any less interesting because they are that different.
            >I like the stories about spiritualism vs modern technology and the OT was such a story.
            They do this anyways. How does one blood sample to quantify what makes someone a Jedi trigger you? It's a high-tech space world.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not OP, but they do not add or accomplish anything. It's a retarded attempt at best to toe the line between scientific and spiritual and to add an empirical aspect to the Force, but in the end it just quantifies one's potential in a fucking adventure story. That symbiosis remark also doesn't go anywhere.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Jedi Order was not a military organization
              Yet all the Jedi are generals when war comes to z republic. To be clear I don't consider them military either, thats earth-thought. Yet the fact remains in spite of my opinion.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because a war will stretch out the Jedi forces and would eventually destroy their code, all according to Palpatines plan really. They were never met to be poltical leaders and it shows.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >science kills mysticism
            Unironically why are atheists like this? Nobody else has an issue with this concept

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >UGHHH NOW THEYRE LIKE A HECKIN REAL LIFE RELIGION AND IM A BRAINWASHED homosexual WHO HATES RELIGION
            don’t care lol. midichlorians don’t make the force not supernatural, they are just a physical marker of the force, it’s a middle man between the physical and metaphysical. george isn’t a midwit who sees the supernatural and empirical as binary opposites and this was his way of showing how they interact and can be quasi measured using biological signifiers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >george isn’t a midwit who sees the supernatural and empirical as binary opposites
              It's how it was portrayed in the original trilogy. No one remembered Jedi and most did not believe in the force. At the end of the movie it turned out that this supernatural power was more powerful than all the technology and allowed Luke to destroy the Death Star.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the empire has been persecuting them and they were in hiding. Imagine if your pineal gland could be analysed to determine your psychic strength. If the government killed most of the psychics, and went around banning any information about training psychic powers and stopped any of the tests which could indicate them, removed it all from history books etc, how long do you think it would take for most people to deny the existence of it all? Luke was strong in the force and had no idea/ couldn’t do shit with it until he was given specific training and instructions. If anyone with the knowledge to train people was killed and the physiological tests called fake all this shit could 100% fall out of common knowledge that quickly

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >retard who thinks buddhists don’t also have an organised religion involved in politics
            Look into burma and what’s happening there.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Brainlet. Real world is irrelevant. Lucas was inspired by East Asian culture when he made Star Wars. There are lots of stories from that region about some martial arts masters living in seclusion. The main character has to find them to learn some secret technique or something.
              That's literally what the original Star Wars was about. Prequel Jedi are completely different from the OT Jedi and I doubt they were supposed to be like that. Most likely Lucas changed his mind about the whole Jedi order and how they should act.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the weird buddhist monks have nothing to do with asians

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it’s your headcanon at play here though. obi wan straight up tells luke how powerful the jedi were, they defended “the republic” for a thousand generations. sounds pretty fucking political to me, especially since the emergent political order started persecuting and killing them, hence why they are the monks in hiding you mention. it’s yet another case of george’s vision of the saga contradicting fanon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. No one remembers them. I don't think even Leia believes in them. She think Obi Wan was just a general during the Clone Wars. Why would she not know who the Jedi were?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because she grew up under a regime that denied they existed, covered up the fact that they existed, and murdered them and people with knowledge about them

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, she grew up among people who allies of the Jedi.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Her father literally fought in the fucking Clone Wars that had Jedi generals and shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And he literally stayed on the DL maintaining his seat on the senate (like a super secret spy anon).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By Senator Organa & wife protecting her, what Leia doesn't know can't hurt her.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would she not know who the Jedi were?
                Why would she have memories of Padme, for that matter?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would she not know who the Jedi were?
                Why would she have memories of Padme, for that matter?

                Jedi knights were set up from the beginning to be Knights Templar in space. A group of mystic warriors who were up to their eyeballs in political intrigue, eventually got burnt by it, and purged.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Real world is irrelevant. Lucas was inspired by East Asian culture when he made Star Wars.
                That's a contradiction anon. Is it relevant or not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > science kills the mysticism.
            Lol why do you think we even have newtonian physics you daft fuck.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              While Newton himself was a mystic, mechanistic explanations did indeed disenchant the world

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I imagined the Jedi as
            EVERY
            TIME
            LOL

            headcanoners, self-inserters and fanfic writers need to be shot on sight to save cinema

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            based

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            with you homosexuals it's always the same stupid RLM arguments that have been rebutted a thousand times

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The RLM arguments are just the arguments people widely made against the prequels after release boiled down in video form. And they are good arguments zoomer.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >prequels bad because pizza roll hooker rape XD
                go back

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed, if there's some biological underpinning then biotech can give mundanes Force powers and then you need some bs as to why that's not done

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not based. That's comic book/anime/vidya tier garbage.
          The original force was clearly based on all those oriental concepts of ki, chi or whatever. Prequel force is basically just a mutation, like Jedi are some retarded X-men. It's capeshit tier.

          midichlorians don't cause the force they are attracted to the force. 101 iq prequel haters strike again. Also the whill of the force is 100% cosmic hippie buddhist monk crap, it's not some hard sci-fi concept. I swear ya'll peak at 104iq, because after that point you can start to appreciate the prequels.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        chinese people thought qi was influenced by your humors

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My arm bone?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's bad because....it's anime!!!

        I always laugh at this argument. Like can you imagine saying "thing thing is bad because...it's a potato!". Like what kind of argument is that? What the fuck does that even mean? Literal buzzwords.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anime is low-tier garbage made for children that's why. It's a fair description

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >low-tier garbage made for children that's why
            and star wars isn't? okay boomer.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So why is Star Wars popular and you aren’t? kek

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lol no u

                nice argument. as expected from sub iq retard. anime is ten times better than your star wars trash for literal children.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s a pretty valid point actually.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >thing is bad because its a potato
          Yeah? Potatoes fucking suck. As does anime, dumbass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are posts like this meta trolling or just autistic weirdos with objectively bad taste?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you are OBJECTIVELY wrong
        >george lucas OBJECTIVELY raped my childhood!
        >JJ abrams OBJECTIVELY should have directed the prequels!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        zoomers are so deep in post-post-post-irony that they can't even tell themselves

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        George is probably on the spectrum and the prequels are his pure unfiltered autism so autistic people relate to it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It could just be their understanding in-universe as far as the science goes; it's still a mystery, and things like blood transfers from force sensitives and cloning midichlorian dense persons/tissue doesn't have the kind of effect one might expect if it was strictly down to these organelles.

      Still, this scientific explanation kills the mysticism. But that's generally what the prequels did, killed all the mystery about Star Wars.
      I imagined the Jedi as a secret order of buddhist-like monks coming out of the shadows and helping the good guys when they needed it. Lucas gave me a creepy Jesuit-like order fully involved in the galactic politics.

      I don't like the direction this entire franchise moved. This includes the EU and everything else. I like the stories about spiritualism vs modern technology and the OT was such a story.
      The prequels demystified everything about Star Wars.

      It's still a mystery. Their science has only demonstrated a tenuous connection correlated to level of force sensitivity, which is still almost entirely random.

      >Kasdan: The Force was available to anyone who could hook into it?
      >Lucas: Yes, everybody can do it.
      >Kasdan: Not just the Jedi?
      >Lucas: It’s just the Jedi who take the time to do it.
      >Marquand: They use it as a technique.
      >Lucas: Like Yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate.
      So measuring midichlorian count is essentially pointless. Jedi can already sense how strong someone is with the Force.

      Life as such is part of the field that the Force is, so it oughtn't be zero unless there's an adaptation to dampen it (like the yslamari lizards) or active attempt to conceal one's self (like Order 66 Jedi on the run)

      The prequels are just capeshit with a Star Wars shine. Every single notable aspect of them is something that capeshit used only a few years later
      >II and III use shitty digital cameras that lack
      >overuse of CGI and blue/greenscreen to create unconvincing digital sets
      >a focus on flash and style over any meaningful substance
      >lame memeable quips so retards like you can pretend they're good simply because you recognise your favourite reddit "joke"
      >characters you recognise from better films/stories appear for forced, misused cameos just so you can clap at them
      Pic very much related

      The CGI was leading edge for the time and holds up with this in mind. LOTR got away with more in things like Helm's Deep with the darkness.

      of CGI and blue/greenscreen to create unconvincing digital sets
      The only objective criticism is bad CGI, and even then, one could argue George Lucas pioneered CGI and AotC was the first film ever shot fully on digital camera.
      Most of the prequels criticism is either factually incorrect, like Jango's head not falling out of the helmet, when George Lucas provided a shot clearly showing where the head went, or it's the sort of criticism, where George Lucas did Star Wars not the way you would have done it, and your headcanon was different from that of Star Wars creator. His style didn't suit your taste, and that's perfectly fine. But so many entitled manchildren just chimped out, because Lucas told a story the way he wanted to tell, as if the movies were objectively shit. It's not like he didn't know people would criticize it. He was aware of kid Anakin possible backlash, AotC romance and so on. Nobody ever asks the question why. He didn't pander to manchildren with le ebin Vader hallway sequence.
      And yes, as you have noted, TCW expanded the prequels, it didn't fix them as some idiots like to think. Everything was already in the movies, and TCW makes them even better. And people tend to forget, that TCW is George Lucas, and they all praise Filoni exclusively. Without Lucas you get Rebels. And now The Mandalorian, painfully mediocre, uncreative, safe show, that is meant to fix Disney's sequels, not expand Star Wars universe and not add anything new.
      People's nostalgia for the OT cost us Star Wars. The sequels were a direct reaction to the supposed objective hate of the Prequels. Studios are not creative, they are reactive.

      >The sequels were a direct reaction to the supposed objective hate of the Prequels
      Yet it never occurred to them that the target audience at the time never objected to them in the way the Gen X Darias did, and was significantly larger than that cohort. The lack of any retrofuturistic aesthetic for the rat sequels in favor of the rehash reboot is their most conspicuous feature.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How else would Qui-Gon know if Anakin was incredibly forced sensitive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By sensing it. He was a Jedi after all.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But then how would that explain Vader not picking up Princess Leia being force sensitive?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do you know he didn't?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I propose these obvious things and get accused of making up nevermind, forgot where I am posting

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bad writing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      'Do your friends consider you lucky? do you ever have dreams that come to pass? I've put something in this box, try to tell me what it is, use your feelings...'

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Anakin was incredibly anus sensitive.
      What did he mean by this

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Midichlorians are a perfectly fine explanation for force sensitivity. Never understood the hate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The hate comes from everybody in the 80s trying to move things with their minds playing with fake lightsabers and self inserting as Luke. Luke was just a farm boy from nowhere and it seemed less genetic in ANH more about the right type of training and accessible to anyone. After ESB it seemed to be more about genetics and after the prequels it was literally point blank measured with an electronic tool and explained as genetic and organisms living within your cells. The original concept was more accessible to everyone and less elitist.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The hate comes from... self inserters
        Pissing off those manchildren is based though, am I supposed to dislike the Prequels because of it?
        Power fantasies are a blight on the medium

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are you retarded? Luke was ALWAYS portrayed as the son of a powerful Jedi.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I never said he wasn’t. But it wasn’t explicitly stated that the ability to use the force was genetic or based on lineage until ESB.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can you even tell me what's wrong with midichlorians?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but they do not add or accomplish anything. It's a retarded attempt at best to toe the line between scientific and spiritual and to add an empirical aspect to the Force, but in the end it just quantifies one's potential in a fucking adventure story. That symbiosis remark also doesn't go anywhere.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >empirical aspect to the Force
        Again, it's not solely caused by the space cells, the force speaks through them. Everyone has these cells, some have more than others:

        >Lucas confirmed that "everyone has the Force", since every single living organism has midi-chlorians inside their cells. The only difference between Jedi that the Jedi are trained

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I know, they're a conduit, not the source.
          What do they add to the story? How do they get explored? How do they even work? As Jedi get more powerful do they grow extra midichlorians or just utilize them at a better rate?
          They also somewhat shit on Yoda's "haha, size matters not, Force is my ally blabla" quote, as it turns out he just got lucky with his midichlorians and his race living for a thousand years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Potential, that’s what it adds, endless possibilities. it’s a hardly reductive, nor does it trivialize anything. It’s a just Sci-fi movie way to measure a non deterministic “power level”, just to say Anakin's naturally gifted, but that doesn’t mean he’s perfect. Far from it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not to mention kidnapping and slave purchasing by Jedi (whats good about that?).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      midi-chlorians

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    iamgine caring about star wars
    theyre fun movies who cares
    oomers are embarrassing

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Chosen One shit was worse than the midichlorians themselves, though neither were a good or even useful story addition.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chosen one is such a stupid concept
      >OH MY GOOOOOOD LUUUUUUUKE RISE TO THE CALL OF ADVENTURE THIS IS YOUR FATHER'S LIGHTSABER HE WAS A GREAT JEDI
      see

      [...]
      midichlorians don't cause the force they are attracted to the force. 101 iq prequel haters strike again. Also the whill of the force is 100% cosmic hippie buddhist monk crap, it's not some hard sci-fi concept. I swear ya'll peak at 104iq, because after that point you can start to appreciate the prequels.

      destiny and fate was always the key central theme in star wars you dumb ass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay. It is different though, and if you can't grok that you're not very bright.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which movie is this from?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Problem Child 2

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars fags will defend anything in their shitty series

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >midichorloians are just attracted to force sensitive people

    i like how this ignores the fact quigon says the exact opposite. midichlorians are what give them connection to the force.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have to say that to shut down the 'Why not give people midichlorians to make them Force sensitive?' question

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have to say that to shut down the 'Why not give people midichlorians to make them Force sensitive?' question

      Because the midichlorians are part of your body.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >midichlorians as a concept predate a new hope
    head canon sisters it's not fair..... I get that star wars is about fate and destiny but why can't I be a jedi master too it's not fair....

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lucasfilm maintains that midi-chlorians were first conceived by George Lucas as early as 1977. However, there is no evidence of this before the publication of The Making of Star Wars in 2007;

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro the whills were in the very first draft

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Kasdan: The Force was available to anyone who could hook into it?
          >Lucas: Yes, everybody can do it.
          >Kasdan: Not just the Jedi?
          >Lucas: It’s just the Jedi who take the time to do it.
          >Marquand: They use it as a technique.
          >Lucas: Like Yoga. If you want to take the time to do it, you can do it; but the ones that really want to do it are the ones who are into that kind of thing. Also like karate.
          So measuring midichlorian count is essentially pointless. Jedi can already sense how strong someone is with the Force.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you laugh but without the mitochondria in your body, you wouldn't be able to do yoga.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Lucas: It’s just the Jedi who take the time to do it
            > anyone can learn to deflect bolts from a training drone with a lightsaber while blindfolded in about 10 minutes, they just don't because reasons

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it takes time okay, not everybody is rich enough to have the privilege of 10 minutes of free time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could move to a far far galaxy and hope the timing is right when you get there

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wow invisible microscopic organisms in your blood decide your destiny before your birth that is an interesting and philosophically deep literary device

    midichlorians raise more questions than they answer and enrich the story. They were always part of the force, they were in the script before a new hope came out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Questions that will never be answered don't enrich stories. They're meaningless filler to sate retards.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    RLMillennials will defund this scene.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Qui Gon, the levelheaded and rational Jedi, is who introduces us to the concept of Midichlorians, representing the Jedi's beliefs in an age of enlightenment
    >After Qui Gon dies, midichlorians stop being mentioned by the Jedi as they become more cultish and insular
    >Only person to bring up midichlorians again is Palpatine, in exactly the same conversation where he talks about the narrow dogma of the Jedi and their incomplete view of the Force
    >Lucas' sequel trilogy would have featured Whills and midichlorians heavily, implying that Luke took the order back on the right path like Qui Gon before him

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What are midichlorians?
    >It's heroin

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one gives a fuck about star wars. Its a dying franchise taking its last breaths. Same with Star Trek.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a dying franchise
      kek
      Dying respectively since 1977 and 1966. Thats a lot of dying, oh wait, maybe its not...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thing isn't dying [proceeds to talk about the 70s]

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Quo-Gon would have saved Anakin, he's more like a father figure. Obi-won didn't have the discipline nor the appropriate knowledge to help Anakin's problems, he's a special needs child.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obiwan never pretented to be a father figure, he was only more of brother towards Anakin

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The implication is that while all living matter is connected to the "force", midichlorians act as a physical embodiment of the will of the force, only present in some people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's pretty clear there is a wide range of mc concentrations. It seems to be more about taking appropriate action with one has, if one wants to (or in the Jedi case, kidnapped and made to if you have been identified as having a specific amount or above).

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Georg Lucas Mentions midichlorians in the 1977 making of star wars documentary

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Luminous beings are we, right hand circularly polarized light of 374.7 Angstroms to be specific

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was always some kind of biological component to Force use given that the original 1977 film hinted that it was hereditary (Luke can use the Force because his father could use the Force). What's the issue?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This scene is based because it shows you the state of the Jedi at the time of the prequels. They were very “modern” and therefore soulless. Read Decline of the West and you’ll understand.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >silicon based organisms cannot have midichlorians and can't wield the Force
    bit racist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's presumptuous, not racist.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mystic Space Knight order that has pretty much totally lost its way are literally reducing thr force to just some numbers.
    It kinda makes sense with the overall story but like everything in the prequels its a chore to actually watch unfold in the film.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force.
    >helped to hunt down
    Because he was the only one who could sense them. Obviously Order 66 wasn't part of the lore when Lucas wrote the first movie.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The backstory Lucas had in mind prior to the prequels involved Anakin as a kind of backstabbing serial killer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >involved Anakin as a kind of backstabbing serial killer.
        I mean..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, yeah, but it was over a span of time and over the course of his missions as a Jedi. Of course with that backstory you run into the "How long should it take before people catch on?" question, as well as the fact it doesn't make for as dramatic a climax to a story centered around Anakin like Lucas chose to do with the prequels. Not hard to see why Lucas changed his mind and went with something else.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this 20 second scene caused the meltdown of an entire generation of neckbeards
    How is Lucas so based?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I cover my eyes and ears during this scene. I don't understand why Lucas did this.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A true fall from grace

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This and "I HATE YOU!" are the only good things in the prequels.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i thoroughly enjoy all the scenes in Episode II and III with Anakin standing around brooding deeply. especially on Mustafar after he has slaughtered the separatist leaders and waits for Obi-Wan. something about a tragic broken figure silently weeping while he contemplates the twisted wreckage his life has become.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Anakin only exists because the Sith tried to use the Force to create an all-powerful evil being but the midichlorians rejected this and impregnated Shmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Skywalker instead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >also it ended up mostly working anyway lol

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Spielberg was preparing Jaws there at that time. On one occasion, Lucas and John Milius visited the studio space after hours where Spielberg showed them the giant mechanical shark undergoing construction. Spielberg grabbed the controls and began excitedly showing them how the mechanical beast worked, opening the enormous jaws which made a loud grinding noise like an oversized bear trap. Lucas climbed a ladder and poked his head inside the open mouth to see how it worked and Spielberg closed the jaws on him. As they laughed at Lucas’ flailing Spielberg realised that the mouth wouldn’t open, a troubling premonition of the mechanical failures on the film to come. Finally the mouth was pried apart and Lucas freed himself
    Why did Spielberg save him and doom cinema bros?

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the left column made me laugh

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When will you guys learn? It's actually fucking genius but like typical entitled retards you guys hate that the artist has autonomy and isn't succumbing to what the fans wanted.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go shill your gay furry Youtuber elsewhere.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, the prequels were too high brow for the Capeshitters.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The prequels directly led to modern capeshit you utter fucking pseud

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Hasn’t watched the prequels
          >Doesn't study film
          Marvel created the capeshit era of film once they found their reddit crowd niche, in fact, when they made the first Iron man movie its build similar, or darker, to Dark Night Trilogy. It wasn’t until later they found a disgusting consumer audience that Art had to be degraded.

          When will you guys learn? It's actually fucking genius but like typical entitled retards you guys hate that the artist has autonomy and isn't succumbing to what the fans wanted.

          Watch this video, maybe you’ll learn something.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The prequels are just capeshit with a Star Wars shine. Every single notable aspect of them is something that capeshit used only a few years later
            >II and III use shitty digital cameras that lack
            >overuse of CGI and blue/greenscreen to create unconvincing digital sets
            >a focus on flash and style over any meaningful substance
            >lame memeable quips so retards like you can pretend they're good simply because you recognise your favourite reddit "joke"
            >characters you recognise from better films/stories appear for forced, misused cameos just so you can clap at them
            Pic very much related

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the bait isn't even fun anymore, this is just sad

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              go back

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >frog poster
                >prequelfag
                i know you people are zoomer newfags, but you guys could try a bit harder at not making yourselves look like fools

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>II and III use shitty digital cameras that lack
              of CGI and blue/greenscreen to create unconvincing digital sets
              Pic related. George Lucas said that most critics don't know much about movies, their history, and the tech behind them, so they can't grasp or give informed opinions. And he is 100% right. Thats why youtube critics always dissect plot, plotholes and the meaning, and symbology of the "plot". Because you dont need to have any knowledge about film to do so. Anyone can dissect a narrative. But to talk about the actual medium you need to know about it.

              This is one of the reasons why Armond White is unironically so pleasant to read. Even with some retarded (aka based) takes you enjoy his encyclopedic knowledge of the history of them medium. You know he knows his shit. He is not quoting tarantino, nolan and shawshank redemption. You might be a film buff, but then White talks about a movie you have never heard off and explains to you why its a landmark of cinema. All of that in a Green Hornet vs Ultron: dawn of infinity godzillas review. I remember some homosexual on youtube complaining about how boring the pod racing was because the camera pans all moved to the right. But thats something you would know if you knew basic film making. In his ignorance, it was some kind of mistake.

              Marvel has destroyed cinema. Marvel is the embodiment of the very thing that George Lucas and Steven Spielberg feared what would happen to cinema as a result of the success of their own films; it would become nothing more than an eye-candy themepark ride spectacle instead of actually looking deep into and sharing the human experience.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lucas is the primary reason why films are so soulless today.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are actually retarded, they aren't even remotely the same. Every single one of those Marvel films is the exact same, with the same formula, the same beats, the same timing of the jokes, the same color pallate, the same fucking everything. You could mix and match any one of the characters and scenarios in each one of those movies and you wouldn't notice. It all has that gross Disney shit-smeared polish of sunshine and happiness and that the heroes are never ever in real danger and are able to wink into the camera that they too are in on the joke that its just a theme park cartoon with over-saturated colors as the actors play in front of a greenscreen. Disney banned theatres from showing other films during the Star Wars sequel shit and it hurt them and theatres in the long run as a result of word of mouth saying how terrible it was. Its just cookie cutter assembly line shit with no substance, no depth, no coherency and are literally forgotten by the time you walk out of the theatre and all that remains lingering in your memory is the post credit scene that ties into the previous shit movie to get you excited for the next coming out in a month. Bland, non-offensive unchallenging garbage for mass consumption and caters to China. Non-stop for damn near 20 fucking years now.

                Disney killed cinema. Disney wipes its ass on art and film as an artform medium. Francis and Scorcese are %150 right in that every one of these movies are interchangable crap that is not distinct from anything else. It can't die fast enough. The next big thing isn't going to come out of Hollywood or Disney no matter how much money they throw at it; make your own kino, guys.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying Lucas didn't pave the way for filmmakers to become much lazier and less creative by relying on CG studios to do 3/4s of the work
                Also 99% of major big-budget films are now shot on digital mainly because of him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >develop new technology
                >somebody else uses technology badly
                >hurr guy who made technology is the cause of this
                smoothbrain logic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                except George Lucas also used the technology badly, hence why his prequels (the second one in particular) aged like fucking milk and there's constant immersion breaking

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >except George Lucas also used the technology badly
                ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes? Attack of the Clones was the first major movie to be shot on digital and Lucas didn't use the CG sparingly. In interviews and behind the scenes he was boasting about creating entire worlds and characters by using CG and how it was going to "innovate the industry". Him and James Cameron heavily pushing that shit in their movies is why we now have so many schlocky CG flicks with hardly any substance.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >is why we now have so many schlocky CG flicks with hardly any substance.
                I wasn't aware Lucas and Cameron are directing those movies

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They certainly contributed to the rise of them. Both the PT and Avatar prioritized "innovation" over good story telling and writing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >guy invents a new hedge trimmer
                >someone buys it and cuts their hedge in a way you don't like
                >blame the guy who made the trimmer
                How can you not see that this is drooling retard logic? Lucas and Cameron have nothing to do with other people making shitty movies. Lazy movies existed before them and will exist after them regardless of the technology.
                And to use the Prequels and Avatar as examples of lazy movies is just laughable, it only shows you care more about plothomosexualry than cinema

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it only shows you care more about plothomosexualry than cinema
                > narrative cinema doesn't need good scripts!!
                when will this meme die?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They have good scripts though? What the fuck is wrong with Avatar's story?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I invent a cheaper way for studios to make films, those studios are going to use that tech regardless if it affects the quality or not. It's the fact that he called it "innovation" when in the long run it's turned out to be about 100 steps back than what we got decades ago.
                >it only shows you care more about plothomosexualry than cinema
                I care about films being believable, engaging, and well made. The PT and Avatar don't have much to offer outside of gawking at their special effects and action scenes. Both of the directors have earlier works that show that they know how to write great stories with believable characters. Meanwhile the PT and Avatar have characters that are either bland and unmemorable, or just archetypes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >those studios are going to use that tech regardless if it affects the quality or not.
                Right, and before CGI took off they were using the cheapest alternative at the time, so what does it have to do with Lucas/Cameron what people do with their tech?

                >It's the fact that he called it "innovation" when in the long run it's turned out to be about 100 steps back
                But it hasn't. Digital filmmaking still has far higher potential than film no matter how much you whine and shit your pants

                >I care about films being believable, engaging, and well made
                You clearly don't if you're whining about the prequels lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so what does it have to do with Lucas/Cameron what people do with their tech?
                They were the ones who heavily pushed it in the industry and made it the norm for big blockbusters to use heavy CG. Neither of them used it sparingly.
                >But it hasn't. Digital filmmaking still has far higher potential than film no matter how much you whine and shit your pants
                It arguably looks much worse, someone posted a miniature that they used for Geonosis but the main reason why it looks "fake" to so many people was because of it being shot on digital. This can apply to most modern flicks, especially capeshit.
                >You clearly don't if you're whining about the prequels lol
                Nothing about the prequel trilogy is believable or engaging. All of the characters behave like aliens.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So why does [...] still look so fake and unconvincing?

                >CGI bad because I said so
                Done with you fags lmao
                If you don't like the movies why are you even here 20 years later crying about them?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I gave you a clear reason why heavy CG makes a world and the overall film much more unbelievable. It's not my fault that your zoomer brain is conditioned to expect it in every flick you watch.
                >If you don't like the movies why are you even here 20 years later crying about them?
                Why do you get so defensive when someone else says they don't like them 20 years later?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                n-word I just don't care. I've yet to hear a compelling argument why Lucas pioneering new special effects in the 70s is le good but doing it in the 2000s is le bad. I also don't see why I'm supposed to care if the effects in a 20 year old movie look dated. It's not like the OT doesn't look old as fuck too.

                CGI isn’t “bad” just like cartoons aren’t “bad”, the problem is that it doesn’t match the original feel if Star Wars. Imagine if someone made a prequel to Citizen Kane and made it filled with CGI and weird physics that don’t make sense. Even if the visuals are beautiful and the plot is interesting it would still just be fucking weird because it doesn’t appear to be the same world as the one taking place in Citizen Kane because in every shot is a smooth cgi sunset and every building looks fake and people look like cartoons. Maybe it could be good as a stand alone thing but if it doesn’t match the original in fundamental ways it’s stylistically incoherent.

                >CGI isn’t “bad” just like cartoons aren’t “bad”, the problem is that it doesn’t match the original feel if Star Wars.
                Weird how only you seem to have that issue

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>>CGI isn’t “bad” just like cartoons aren’t “bad”, the problem is that it doesn’t match the original feel if Star Wars.
                >Weird how only you seem to have that issue
                Prequel fags have now devolved to gaslighting. "Only you thinks the prequels are bad" lmao dude get real.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gaslighting
                go back holy fucking shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > you are the only person who complained about the usage of CGI in Star Wars
                Ok dude.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                neckbeards aren't people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hey fuck you buddy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Every single person who wasn't a young child when those movies came out thought they looked dodgy. Particularly the second two, and particularly the third. The whole damn theater laughed at yoda spinning, myself with them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Weird how only you seem to have that issue
                Prequelteens are sum'n else. Sum'n stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I've yet to hear a compelling argument why Lucas pioneering new special effects in the 70s is le good but doing it in the 2000s is le bad.
                Have already stated why. The way they implemented CG wasn't "innovation", just a cheaper more accessible way for studios and filmmakers to create movies even though it does look worse when it isn't used sparingly.
                >It's not like the OT doesn't look old as fuck too.
                The difference is that the CG in the prequels looked noticably out of place and fake even back then. The effects in the OT, while dated, still look pretty great for their time and won't age as badly as the effects used in the prequels.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >still look pretty great for their time and won't age as badly
                the originals already aged like shit lol, thats why Lucas went back and touched them up with modern CGI
                and now you retarded fucks go back and watch the OT and think 'wow this 70s movie really aged well!', when you're literally watching a movie with modern filmmaking technology

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the originals already aged like shit lol, thats why Lucas went back and touched them up with modern CGI
                You mean the CGI that already looked dated even for late 90's/early 00's standards?
                >and now you retarded fucks go back and watch the OT and think 'wow this 70s movie really aged well!', when you're literally watching a movie with modern filmmaking technology
                Kind of like with the CG in the prequels, the changes Lucas made are out of place and distracting to most people. Pic related is a good example.
                This is why I watch the despecialized editions or 4K77/4K80/4K83.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                listen man it was really important to show audiences the side of an elephant at that moment. don't question it, you aren't the artist so you cant criticize it. it's the thought that counts anyway just stop bullying prequels okay!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because delusional pseudointellectuals like you need to know the truth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                CGI isn’t “bad” just like cartoons aren’t “bad”, the problem is that it doesn’t match the original feel if Star Wars. Imagine if someone made a prequel to Citizen Kane and made it filled with CGI and weird physics that don’t make sense. Even if the visuals are beautiful and the plot is interesting it would still just be fucking weird because it doesn’t appear to be the same world as the one taking place in Citizen Kane because in every shot is a smooth cgi sunset and every building looks fake and people look like cartoons. Maybe it could be good as a stand alone thing but if it doesn’t match the original in fundamental ways it’s stylistically incoherent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >is why we now have so many schlocky CG flicks with hardly any substance.
                I wasn't aware Lucas and Cameron are directing those movies

                Lucas believed he'd be able to change entire scenes, shots, even the narrative using computers alá Running Man! So in his mind nothing he'd done was etched in stone.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really, you're always going to get cheap, pastel trash in comparison to your success as a filmmaker. Lucas initiated his Art the way he wanted to. Don't blame Lucas or Spielberg, blame the low-brow consumers that don't like challenging, cutting-edge work -- put your money where your mouth is. Consumers want painfully mediocre, uncreative, safe mediums. Why even bother creating anything of substance if worthless sneaks want the piece of the cake without the work? CGI can be used well.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those pretty shot are exactly the reason AOTC and ROTS kind of suck. They simply don’t look real. It’s like looking at a cartoon sunset vs a real sunset. When everything looks picture perfect and smooth and crisp in every shot the mind no longer believes what they are seeing. Also, the fighting style became like looney tunes in AOTC, in TPM 99% of it still felt pretty grounded in the physics of the OT. In AOTC and ROTS the physics are unbelievable it’s just watching bugs bunny or road runner. People are flying in helicopters with no windows at break neck speeds and their hair is barely blowing around at all people are flying through the air millions of feet in the sky and look calm as a cucumber yoda is doing Olympic flips sticking to walls like Spider-Man, it just looks weird af. TPM at least felt like a grounded film and used CGI a little bit sensibly.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Compare these fights.

                OT:

                TPM:

                ——it’s at this point on that the fights lose believability and goes into cartoon /looney tunes territory

                AOTC:

                ROTS:

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [log in to view media]

                This is because TPM was actually shot on film and made better use of location shooting and miniatures, in addition to not overusing CGI. It feels more grounded and visceral, something that was key to the success of the OT, and looks infinitely better than the other two prequels, which were shot on digital cameras and mainly on studio sets with bluescreen.
                It's telling that the cinegrid in

                >>II and III use shitty digital cameras that lack
                of CGI and blue/greenscreen to create unconvincing digital sets
                Pic related. George Lucas said that most critics don't know much about movies, their history, and the tech behind them, so they can't grasp or give informed opinions. And he is 100% right. Thats why youtube critics always dissect plot, plotholes and the meaning, and symbology of the "plot". Because you dont need to have any knowledge about film to do so. Anyone can dissect a narrative. But to talk about the actual medium you need to know about it.

                This is one of the reasons why Armond White is unironically so pleasant to read. Even with some retarded (aka based) takes you enjoy his encyclopedic knowledge of the history of them medium. You know he knows his shit. He is not quoting tarantino, nolan and shawshank redemption. You might be a film buff, but then White talks about a movie you have never heard off and explains to you why its a landmark of cinema. All of that in a Green Hornet vs Ultron: dawn of infinity godzillas review. I remember some homosexual on youtube complaining about how boring the pod racing was because the camera pans all moved to the right. But thats something you would know if you knew basic film making. In his ignorance, it was some kind of mistake.

                Marvel has destroyed cinema. Marvel is the embodiment of the very thing that George Lucas and Steven Spielberg feared what would happen to cinema as a result of the success of their own films; it would become nothing more than an eye-candy themepark ride spectacle instead of actually looking deep into and sharing the human experience.

                is comprised mostly of the short Naboo and Tatooine scenes, which were the only ones shot on location. In reality, those scenes take up only like 15-20% of the actual film while the rest of it is shit that looks like this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Geonosis wasn't CGI though lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [log in to view media]

                Of course, what was I thinking, I forgot they put a floor in. Definitely not bluescreen CGI

                Jesus those bluescreens really look terrible. Imagine if they shot this now with the Volume.

                The Volume is also pretty poor, it was alright the first time they used in The Mandalorian but then Disney started overusing it for everything and now it's just a modern version of old school rear projection. The actors have only a small space to work in, and you can tell they're just inside some air conditioned studio the whole time which doesn't exactly work when most of your Star Wars shows are set on a sweltering hot desert planet. It's completely sterile

                >All the Jedi extras flailing around in the background
                Something something soul something kino etc.

                It's also another thing about the prequels, the poor integration of CGI and live action. Most of the time the actors had absolutely no reference for the CGI characters they were meant to be interacting with. Jar Jar in TPM works because they had an actor there with a costume and then pasted the animated character over him, but then they got lazy with the next two films. These guys were literally just told to fight against air

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                n-wordhomosexual

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And uh, the tiny actors are there?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >get btfoed so you deflect
                laffin

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So why does

                [log in to view media]

                This is because TPM was actually shot on film and made better use of location shooting and miniatures, in addition to not overusing CGI. It feels more grounded and visceral, something that was key to the success of the OT, and looks infinitely better than the other two prequels, which were shot on digital cameras and mainly on studio sets with bluescreen.
                It's telling that the cinegrid in [...] is comprised mostly of the short Naboo and Tatooine scenes, which were the only ones shot on location. In reality, those scenes take up only like 15-20% of the actual film while the rest of it is shit that looks like this

                still look so fake and unconvincing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                While the background is real the CGI has an incredibly poor depth of field.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The background actually looks great I. These scenes, it’s the cgi characters galloping around. The physics look cartoonish. The weight distribution or the motion or something is just ridiculous.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not blurred properly and it has no physics rigging at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >These guys were literally just told to fight against air
                Despite all their rage they are still just rats on a soundstage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they really overdid the sabers-deflect-blasters shit in the prequels.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But obviously there's a way to use it right, which they would on a feature film.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus those bluescreens really look terrible. Imagine if they shot this now with the Volume.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >All the Jedi extras flailing around in the background
                Something something soul something kino etc.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You bring a good point. But you are still missing one good piece from uncovering the conspiration.

                Redditlettermedia gaslighted everyone who wasnt there or who was too young to know better. "How?" You might ask, "I have the dvds!"
                Well, you see, while the prequels were shot in digital mostly, they were processed chemically in film and projected in film. The higher contrast, chemical process and grain of film helped to hide the shoddy cgi. This is how it was intended for us to watch them.
                People who watched them in theaters and were old to know better, remember them in all their glory. Your dvd, is the digital version without any of the chemical enhancements. Your dvd version is not the way it was projected in theaters. Your dvd version looks like shit and RLM convinced everyone that this is the real version and the rest is nostalgia.

                This scan looks a bit dark, but you can already see how good it looks most of the times. You can even see the Senator room and it actually looks fine.

                1:24-1:30 This one straight up looks better than modern Marvel Disney.

                Dont get zoomers and r3dditlettermedia tell you otherwise, they looked great, years ahead of anything before.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fans never cared about rlm

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This would be a good post if it weren't for the key fact that pure digital is actually how Lucas intended them to be viewed. The only reason those film-scanned versions even exist is because most cinemas (rightfully) resisted changing to the required projectors
                >Lucas had stated that he wished to film The Phantom Menace on this [digital] format but Sony was unable to build the cameras quickly enough. In 2002, Attack of the Clones became the third film to be released that was shot entirely on a 24p digital camera (preceded by 2001's Jackpot and Vidocq). The cameras record in the 16:9 HDCAM format (1080p), although the image was cropped to a 2.40:1 widescreen ratio. The area above and below the 2.40 extraction area was available for Lucas to reframe the picture as necessary in post-production. Despite Lucas' efforts to persuade movie theaters to switch to digital projectors for viewing of Episode II, few theaters did.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm well aware, Lucas made a bet by wanting the prequels to be set with an innovative tech of its time. People thought PS2 graphics looked like real life for it's time, some are better than others, but I believe it's unfair to cherry-pick a 2 hour-movie that was otherwise shot almost experimentally. You win some parts you lose them, the clone troopers being animated is a remarkable feat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's COMPLETELY fair to criticize these movies for being shot "experimentally" in the first place. No aspect of a director's technical or creative decision making is protected from criticism.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Prequelfags often seem to think that intent matters more than the actual execution and effect

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That does seem to be the way with them. It's the participation-award generation, they think people deserve praise just for trying.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                'execution' in this case just means following mainstream hollywood conventions right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it just means being good

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, you fucking zoomer. Execution means the actual act of DOING IT. Not your intent, but what you ACTUALLY DO.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it just means being good

                Right, but every time one of you fags complains about the 'execution' of something, what you're talking about is just wanting it to be more generic. If these movies were rehashes of shit you'd already seen then you wouldn't be here complaining

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's fine, but that's not the point though. What I can't stand is lazy, uninformed takes by others, I've said many times that the gain and the higher contrast of the projectors helped hide the shoddy parts of the CGI, This is how it was meant to be watched.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What I can't stand is lazy, uninformed takes by others,
                It just looks bad.

                >noo you're not informed
                It looks bad.
                >saying that doesn't take enough effort
                It looks bad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're wrong, but despite what the incoherent meme video defending the special editions might try to goad you into accepting, Lucas's intent doesn't matter either way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                attack of the clones is my least favorite from the prequels so don't watch it often, but man padme riding on that beast looks really dumb

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a complete disaster. The least they could have done is put her on a greenscreen mechanical bull and shaken the shit out of her for effect. But either they were too cheap for even that, too lazy, portman too stuckup, or they really thought this end result looked good. I don't know which possibility is worse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                at some points it really looks like they just pasted a freeze frame of her in a seating position, lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This scene just like most other fight scenes in the prequel look fake but it's not so much because of the effects than it's the fight choreography, or rather, the lack of it. 100% Lucas just gave the CG artists instructions to "I don't know put some jedi and droids in the background fighting, or something" and the artists, not knowing what to do, just had the droids stand there with sticks up their arse and the jedi randomly swirling their sabers in the air for no reason.
                The pattern repeats in every fight scene, nobody is ever trying to take cover or use tactics of any kind. No one has seemingly any training, situational awareness or even basic self-preservation.
                I can't believe in these scenes because I can't believe the geeks casually frolicking around in them are warriors. It's got nothing to do with the CG.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >all these words, refuted by the screencaps you posted which all look like crap

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Capeshit is exactly what everyone wanted Lucas to make though. All the fucking complaints from boomers were the movies being too different from the OT
              Then Abrams shits out TFA and you homosexuals eat it up and beg for more, its pathetic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Then Abrams shits out TFA and you homosexuals eat it up and beg for more, its pathetic
                >implying
                It's entirely possible to dislike both the prequels and sequels, dumbass. It's not one or the other
                The prequels at least had good ideas and imagination which the sequels didn't, so it beats them out there, but as films they're still laregely joyless digital shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I didn't fight to get my freedom in order to do what the studios would do.
                This part always gets me. What is a person supposed to do if they just want to make movies?
                If you go work for a studio they'll tell you to shut the fuck up and churn out capeshit, and anything else you make they'll cut to shit and ruin. Even if you fund your own personal fucking studio, mouthbreathing general audiences will cry about you making YOUR own movies the way YOU want them.

                I don't get it at all. To all the people who hate the Prequels, why are you here? Why do you keep watching these movies if you hate Lucas and you hate Star Wars? There are an infinite amount of movies shat out yearly made exactly to your tastes, so why do you pick out one guy who makes things NOT aimed at you, and demand he change them?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              of CGI and blue/greenscreen to create unconvincing digital sets
              The only objective criticism is bad CGI, and even then, one could argue George Lucas pioneered CGI and AotC was the first film ever shot fully on digital camera.
              Most of the prequels criticism is either factually incorrect, like Jango's head not falling out of the helmet, when George Lucas provided a shot clearly showing where the head went, or it's the sort of criticism, where George Lucas did Star Wars not the way you would have done it, and your headcanon was different from that of Star Wars creator. His style didn't suit your taste, and that's perfectly fine. But so many entitled manchildren just chimped out, because Lucas told a story the way he wanted to tell, as if the movies were objectively shit. It's not like he didn't know people would criticize it. He was aware of kid Anakin possible backlash, AotC romance and so on. Nobody ever asks the question why. He didn't pander to manchildren with le ebin Vader hallway sequence.
              And yes, as you have noted, TCW expanded the prequels, it didn't fix them as some idiots like to think. Everything was already in the movies, and TCW makes them even better. And people tend to forget, that TCW is George Lucas, and they all praise Filoni exclusively. Without Lucas you get Rebels. And now The Mandalorian, painfully mediocre, uncreative, safe show, that is meant to fix Disney's sequels, not expand Star Wars universe and not add anything new.
              People's nostalgia for the OT cost us Star Wars. The sequels were a direct reaction to the supposed objective hate of the Prequels. Studios are not creative, they are reactive.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Capeshit is exactly what everyone wanted Lucas to make though. All the fucking complaints from boomers were the movies being too different from the OT
                Then Abrams shits out TFA and you homosexuals eat it up and beg for more, its pathetic

                The prequels and sequels are both shit, and in a couple regards are shit for similar reasons despite being very different overall. I know reality makes it harder for peanut-brains to grapple with, but it's a false dichotomy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Telling the truth to these people doesn't work.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >posts screencap from 2021
              kek

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they made the first Iron man movie its build similar, or darker, to Dark Night Trilogy
            So this is the power of prequelfag cinematic analysis

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a better duel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cloud City. Death Star 2.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the galaxy is full of futuristic hightech gadgets and tech
    >somehow noone has figured out how the force works
    Ofcourse it makes sense. Its even better, when you realize that the jedi are now extinct and have become this mysterious urban myth.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The midichlorians don't necessarily demystify the Force. I see it the same way some Reddit-types say "Love is just chemicals and electrodes in the brain" and whatnot. Sure, there is scientific truth in that statement, but it would be ridiculous to consider something so immense and powerful as love the same way one might consider passing gas or popping a pimple.
    The Jedi - who, at this point in the story, are considered to be an arm of the Republic and are responsible for upholding peace throughout it's territories - use the midichlorian test to identify potential initiates for the Order. It's not particularly a spiritual or mystic process, but it's necessary for the world they live in. But the Force, like love, is a much higher power. It can unite planets or destroy them; it tells us of the past and future; it is an energy that unities us all. Most importantly, it requires a level of faith that can't simply be measured or inspired with a machine.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Reminder that if you dislike the sequels it's simply because you're too stupid and uncultured to fully understand them, or you're just mad that Disney made the films the way they wanted to make them and didn't adhere to your headcanon

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what I didn't understand is:
    >midichlorians are attracted to the force sensitive
    >jedi, themselves force sensitive, rely on medichlorians to detect other force sensitives

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what doesn't make sense about that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well prior it had been established that they could use the force to sense others strong in the force. why not use that time to develop a human aspect in the film rather than another mechanical one

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why have midiclorians sense the force instead of having humans do it? midiclorians don't make anything simpler, nor do they make the story any richer. why do they even exist? what implications do they have to the story? anything at all? they're utterly pointless, and for that reason, they are bad writing.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's heroin.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >go watch a movie from the 40s
    >complain that the effects are bad and say the director must have been a hack
    heh I am very intelligent

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >go watch a movie from the 40s
      >admire the genuine in-camera stunts, on-set effects, and makeup for their artistry and craft

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's hard to appreciate cgi when it's used in every movie today

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CG effects were not new in 2001 there's no excuse for how shitty AOTC looks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the old rubber suit godzilla movies. The effects are very dated, but (in the good ones) done with soul and are very fun to watch.

      This is soulless:

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      This is because TPM was actually shot on film and made better use of location shooting and miniatures, in addition to not overusing CGI. It feels more grounded and visceral, something that was key to the success of the OT, and looks infinitely better than the other two prequels, which were shot on digital cameras and mainly on studio sets with bluescreen.
      It's telling that the cinegrid in [...] is comprised mostly of the short Naboo and Tatooine scenes, which were the only ones shot on location. In reality, those scenes take up only like 15-20% of the actual film while the rest of it is shit that looks like this

      It's lazy, like godzilla fighting in the wilderness with no scale model builds to smash. Those godzilla movies are shit, I don't like those ones. I like the ones where they have really intricate models of cities and smash them up. It doesn't look real, it's a very dated effect. But it's cool and soulful, not lazy, and that's what really counts. And this is where the prequels fail.

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