Prehistoric women hunted as much as men

New study just dropped. Opinions?

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abd0310

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >science.org

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anthropological 'databases' are not prehistoric

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tools left in burials are not indicative of them using them in their life. Especially the fact 2 infants also where buried with hunting tools in upward sun which to be fair is all the way in Alaska so very possible their hunting and burial traditions have no barring on this.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New study finds men invented the couch b4 the spear, females were travelling the dimensions but the patriarchy hides this fact

    Don't mind me I just like straw feminism

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Need prehistoric tomboy cavewife

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are still hunter-gatherer peoples in the world today, you know.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Facts time
    >the weakest 10% of men are as strong as the strongest 10% of women
    >this is biological

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Weren't they often heavily pregnant?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I could imagine Neanderthal women being strong enough to hunt but not Sapiens
    Human women are just too physically weak except for the very rare exceptions

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are human females this fucking weak? Animals can shit out litters and walk it off almost instantly, female women turn into helpless babies. How the fuck did evolution make such mistakes? Or are we actually in fact a hybrid species, which would explain why females suffer so hard - they're literally nature's mistake of sorts.

    >muh giant baby heads
    Why aren't women adapting to this? Surely sooner or later evolution will give rise to women that are actually suited to give birth unlike our current conundrum?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are human females this fucking weak?
      because God has a good sense of humor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are human females this fucking weak? Animals can shit out litters and walk it off almost instantly, female women turn into helpless babies.
      The fertility rate of Medieval Europe was around 5 to 8 babies on average per a woman.
      Feodor Vassilyev had 69 children (16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of triplets, and 4 sets of quadruplets); 67 of them survived infancy with the loss of one set of twins: the record for most children born to a single woman.

      In modern HG societies women hunt. They usually hunt smaller animals, are trackers or whatever. They often do it with children.

      Apes are the same. HGs were nomads, they moved often with entire tribes, including women and children.

      >In modern HG societies women hunt.
      Which is why they are still Hunter Gather societies. The superior HG societies had men doing everything which is why they actually progressed.

      I believe it, woman hunting was one of the few somewhat tolerated ways Woman were allowed to have weapons, such as Artimas' cult of female hunters. They were not men and did not hunt like men, but they did exist.

      It is just another example for how ancient socities are more flexible and less oriental and brittle than modern socities. It is in the modern west feminism triuphed, where such roles were supressed, not in the past where woman had odd roles like this but the Men clearly were in charge

      >I believe it, woman hunting was one of the few somewhat tolerated ways Woman were allowed to have weapons, such as Artimas' cult of female hunters. They were not men and did not hunt like men, but they did exist.
      Well no, that is a religious figure. Not a real person which is why it is a religious figure.

      I believe it, woman hunting was one of the few somewhat tolerated ways Woman were allowed to have weapons, such as Artimas' cult of female hunters. They were not men and did not hunt like men, but they did exist.

      It is just another example for how ancient socities are more flexible and less oriental and brittle than modern socities. It is in the modern west feminism triuphed, where such roles were supressed, not in the past where woman had odd roles like this but the Men clearly were in charge

      >It is just another example for how ancient socities are more flexible and less oriental and brittle than modern socities.
      You're failed analysis is a good example of confusing religious mythology with reality.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Well no, that is a religious figure. Not a real person which is why it is a religious figure.
        But she did have a cult of real flesh-and-blood worshippers.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But she did have a cult of real flesh-and-blood worshippers.
          And that changes absolutely nothing?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he superior HG societies had men doing everything which is why they actually progressed.
        The fuck does this mean? They progressed because they stopped being hunter gatherers. Most likely because of women, which is why those early agriculturalists seem to worship female Earth goddess.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The fuck does this mean? They progressed because they stopped being hunter gatherers.
          Well no, The first towns, temples and metal use all predate the transition to Agriculture in the Middle East and Europe. Göbekli Tepe is a famous example.
          Basically men were better hunters that were able to create a surplus of food and create the first civilizations, improve technology and diversify to Farming over time.

          >Most likely because of women
          Nope..

          >which is why those early agriculturalists seem to worship female Earth goddess.
          Well no. And you always get Goddesses appearing simply because women produce babies. Artemis is an example of this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >well no
            The Mother Goddess is most likely of Anatolian origin. It's why she was so important in the early Middle Eastern civilizations (Inanna, Ishtar, Isis).
            Anatolian farmers and all those other early cultures clearly worshipped females. Pre-Pottery Neolithic buried females and their children, men were clearly less important than that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The Mother Goddess is most likely of Anatolian origin
              >It's why she was so important in the early Middle Eastern civilizations (Inanna, Ishtar, Isis).
              Well no, almost everyone had one or more male
              and female gods...
              >Anatolian farmers and all those other early cultures clearly worshipped females
              Not in particular.
              >Pre-Pottery Neolithic buried females and their children
              Why wouldn't you lol.
              >men were clearly less important than that.
              That doesn't follow at all lol wtf...

              This is where female gods In Europe came from.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf
              Basically sex and reproduction from the male point of view.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they worshipped females because they could create life, and because if they were mostly being cared by women as children it would be a kind of unconscious way to worship the women who raised them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Random mutations in the XX chromosome for lower muscle density for an unexplained reason

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Strong women can resist rape, fast women can run away from rape.
        NTA

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Strong women can resist rape, fast women can run away from rape.
          Which is why women always complain about a rape epidemic by crying out to the government for protection. All whilst advocating for the importation of rapefugees.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            rape is the rarest form of violence, official stats have it between 800-3000 convictions per year, including statutory (not forced), for reference USA has an average homicide rate of 25,000 per year.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              should not society care about homicide more then?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Rape is incredibly hard to prove unless the victim was a literal prepubescent child.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >rape is the rarest form of violence, official stats have it between 800-3000 convictions per year
              "there were 139,380 rapes reported to law enforcement in 2018"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes and 80% of them are thots that had consensual sex and regretted it afterward, often dropping the case because they knew it was bunkum

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God i hate women and their attention whoring so much

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yes and 80% of them are thots that had consensual sex and regretted it afterward, often dropping the case because they knew it was bunkum
                Whilst I would agree with you outright, this excuse is used in Sweden to hide Islamic rapes of locals...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does the difference in crime rates still remain when you factor in things like socioeconomic status?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Being raped isn't necessarily genetically maladaptive, if it leads to getting pregnant. Evolution doesn't care about human well-being, only about how many children we have.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like all primates human form complex groups in which roles played by both sexes can differ. Did some early human tribes have female hunting? It's possible, but most of the hunting and all dangerous activities were done by males. From a biological perspective
    males are stronger, faster, have a better hand to eye coordination so it makes sense for them to hunt if you want to get some meat. Another argument for male to go hunting is the fact human pregnancy is long and dangerous for the woman, even after giving birth the baby must be cared for and woman have nine months of bonding with the baby and they also can breastfeed the baby.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In modern HG societies women hunt. They usually hunt smaller animals, are trackers or whatever. They often do it with children.

      Apes are the same. HGs were nomads, they moved often with entire tribes, including women and children.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Prehistoric women haunted as much as men

    Fixed

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just as much? isn't that a bit mysoginistic? I think they hunted most of the time, albeit they received a smaller proportion of meat, so called meat-gap

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would be interesting if it were true, but I will not ever again consider a study on a topic woke NPCs have a strong opinion on potentially non-contaminated.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for the hunting gap to drop.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I believe it, woman hunting was one of the few somewhat tolerated ways Woman were allowed to have weapons, such as Artimas' cult of female hunters. They were not men and did not hunt like men, but they did exist.

    It is just another example for how ancient socities are more flexible and less oriental and brittle than modern socities. It is in the modern west feminism triuphed, where such roles were supressed, not in the past where woman had odd roles like this but the Men clearly were in charge

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now tell us about the femboy huntresses

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The what?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The stacking and topological integrity of the artifact cluster indicate that the artifacts were likely interred as an integrated toolkit in a perishable container such as a leather bag. The kit includes a full suite of big-game procurement and processing tools including a flaked stone component that is notably similar to the mobile toolkit theorized by Kuhn from basic geometric principles (30). The stone projectile points would have been used to dispatch big game (31), the backed knife and lithic flakes to field dress harvested game, the large scrapers/choppers to extract bone marrow or process hides, the small scrapers for detailed hide work, and the cobbles and ocher to tan hides. In addition to the toolkit artifacts, isolated artifacts were found on the burial pit floor including a complete 1B-style projectile point, projectile point midsection, projectile point tip, and retouched laminar flake.
    Looks to me like she was in the business of making arrowheads, had some that were finished and some in progress, and her tools for making them. Unless it makes more sense that she went out hunting with a bag of arrowheads and sat down to make the arrows when she saw the mammoth, what do I know?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems gay and bullshit. NEXT.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Debunking a debunking
    A CRITIQUE OF ANDERSON ET AL.’S (2023) PLOS ONE PAPER ON WOMEN’S HUNTING
    http://www.vivekvenkataraman.com/blog

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Women were epic huntresses for hundreds of thousands of years then just happened to to stop hunting in nearly every contemporary hunter gatherer society that exists even places like North Sentinel Island

    Let me guess, white people are somehow responsible?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's up with the israelite-tier persecution complex these poltroons lug around every thread

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is bullshit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not. The gathering stuff is bullshit. Old HGs were mostly hunters, not gatherers. Women probably participated in hunts, but I doubt they hunted big game individually. Maybe on rare occasions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Probably not. The gathering stuff is bullshit. Old HGs were mostly hunters, not gatherers
        Well no, all possible food sources are generally utilized and because you don't have agriculture everything is extremely seasonal and you need to migrate to follow your food sources.

        >Women probably participated in hunts, but I doubt they hunted big game individually. Maybe on rare occasions.
        Even young children can catch fish and throw rocks at pigeons. Not very well, but they can.
        Calling everything "hunting" is pretty disingenuous.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that the cavewoman professor Sada from Pokemon Scarlet and Violet?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, sure, men developed thicker eyebrow muscles and the skull is thicker in those parts to protect men's eyes while they hunted, I don't see that in women

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that probably evolved to protect men when they fought each other.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that probably evolved to protect men when they fought each other.
        Because humans never hunted aurochs that were larger than the Spanish bull that gorges out peoples eyes and rips mouths open?
        Because bears and lions don't swipe people in the face?
        Because hunters aren't gored to death by Elk?
        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oregon-bow-hunter-killed-elk-a9701966.html

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still they skirmish to and fro, men my mess-mates on the snow when we headed off the aurochs turn-for-turn.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stongman Butty Sugrue wrestling with King Puck on the mountain side, 1953

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nice.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Spanish Bullfighter Julio Aparicio Gets Gored.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                quin brau més basat, puta espanya

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’d bet a dollar on it
        Can’t CPR away brain damage after all

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          actually getting hit in the face in general

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > as much as men
    >Middle Holocene females and males at the Indian Knoll site in Kentucky were buried with atlatls in a respective ratio of 17:63, suggesting that big-game hunting was a male-biased activity at that time (21). Thirty percent of bifaces, including projectile points, are associated with females in a sample of 44 Late Holocene burials from seven sites in southern California (52).
    That's not what your article says, women did not hunt as often as men, only in this particular instance do we find women buried with what seem to be hunting tools as often as men and this does not necessarily mean even this society had perfect equality.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So even cited article is stating the contrary?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Women certainly could be hunters, about a quarter were at the Indian Knoll site and it may well have risen to around 50% if the environment necessitated it, however for obvious reasons women were at a disadvantage. Women could hunt, but if game was scarce and hunters had to track their quarry for days then carry the kill back to the camp it would probably be the men doing this.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Women certainly could be hunters, about a quarter were at the Indian Knoll site and it may well have risen to around 50%
          Stop samefagging yourself Rando feminist OP.
          You have made stupid threads like this before where you repeatedly speculate with creative interpretations and make completely erroneous claims like this -

          >he superior HG societies had men doing everything which is why they actually progressed.
          The fuck does this mean? They progressed because they stopped being hunter gatherers. Most likely because of women, which is why those early agriculturalists seem to worship female Earth goddess.

          >They progressed because they stopped being hunter gatherers
          Because you keep on forgetting about Göbekli Tepe.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Furthermore, peak proficiency in atlatl use can be achieved at a young age, potentially before females reach reproductive age, obviating a sex-biased technological constraint that would later intensify with bow-and-arrow technology
    ????

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only women in the presence of man and men who never talked to women can read this article and not immediately start laughing. This bs is enough to make honest man a Kazakhstani

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is the god of hunting female THOUGH?

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be female
    >push a feminist theory

    Pick one, and you'll do great in modern academia. Pure decay.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FUCKING WOMEN FUCKING LYING AGAIN GOD I HATE WOMEN I HATE THEM SO FUCKING MUCH GOD PLEASW GET RID OF THEM MY BLOOD IS LITERALLY BOILING DOWN

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Without women there'd be no men either.

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