>pre Socratic texts are lost forever
>pre Socratic texts are lost forever
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>pre Socratic texts are lost forever
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They still exist in the mind of God
The lamb will come down from heaven any day now, two more millenia and we won christbros
Yes and unironically. your type are always so pathetic
Keep waiting bozo
Cope
They hated you because you told the truth. People are wrong and make false predictions of the apocalypse all the time, and the prediction by some guy in the desert 2000 years ago was neither the first nor the last wrong prediction. I’m of the firm belief that that person too will eventually be forgotten someday just as the “prophets” of doom of the late 20th century are
Amen
I really look forward to worshipping God with my LULZ Christian brothers, and also maybe the Lord Christ will explain why we kept coming back here, even though the risk of pornography and stuff is so high here.
Maybe not, There’s a lot of trash heaps which have basically libraries of ancient lit, which are more or less largely ignored/slowly worked on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyrhynchus_Papyri
> The Oxyrhynchus Papyri are a group of manuscripts discovered during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries by papyrologists Bernard Pyne Grenfell and Arthur Surridge Hunt at an ancient rubbish dump near Oxyrhynchus in Egypt
> Only an estimated 10% are literary in nature. Most of the papyri found seem to consist mainly of public and private documents: codes, edicts, registers, official correspondence, census-returns, tax-assessments, petitions, court-records, sales, leases, wills, bills, accounts, inventories, horoscopes, and private letters.[1]
>Although most of the papyri were written in Greek, some texts written in Egyptian (Egyptian hieroglyphics, Hieratic, Demotic, mostly Coptic), Latin and Arabic were also found. Texts in Hebrew, Aramaic, Syriac and Pahlavi have so far represented only a small percentage of the total.[2]
>Since 1898, academics have collated and transcribed over 5,000 documents from what were originally hundreds of boxes of papyrus fragments the size of large cornflakes. This is thought to represent only 1 to 2% of what is estimated to be at least half a million papyri still remaining to be conserved, transcribed, deciphered and catalogued. The most recent published volume was Vol. LXXXVI, released on 30 November 2021.
And there’s other heaps of similar size. There’s just not much incentive/money being poured into searching.
There's also the huge collection of Aristotle Commentaries that are still being translated.
Can amateurs uncover and translate papyri? How do I become an ancient literature discoverer?
Teach yourself ancient Egyptian cursive, Coptic, whatever and start scrabbling in the sand. That or save yourself the effort, join the cool kids club and pay me for a transcription. I’ll cut you a deal: if you provide some sort of security, I’ll give you the first one for free. Terms and conditions may apply
I have found a set of golden tablets that, when viewed inside a top-hat and, with the assistance of a genius/angelic presence, am able to translate and transcribe the works of all the eminent pre-Socratics. What is it worth to you for me to do so?
PS - no, you can not see the tablets
Around two fiddy
I will do literally anything. I have a 50k net worth
>paying 50k to read about how the world is made of water
Ring me up g, tell your friends
+1 two one three 373 four two five three
Don't waste your money on something stupid.
Sorry bud, I need the tablets
It says you should undress, give all your possessions to me, let me beat you and suck my dick.
Oh waits that the Bible
Well, like I said I can’t show them to you but I can transcribe some. If different transcriptions don’t quite match up it’s not the tablets, it’s a different genius/angelic spirit. They work shifts I’ve been told, but the tablets themselves are infallible. They also can’t be photographed: magic emanations and whatnot, you know how it is
I believe you, no need to defend yourself here.
If Plato is anything to go by they were either hopelessly outdated and contained little we don’t know that isn’t connected to the metaphysical world (Anaxagoras), poetic doctrines which preach immoral behavior (lost Homer) or it’s just incomprehensible jargon (Parmenides). It is actually good they are lost.
The Milesians anticipated modern physics by over 2000 years, Pythagoras basically predicted the big bang theory and Heraclit invented Idealism more than 2000 years before Hegel was born.
If we had the presocratics, Greek philosophy would be complete and everything written after Aristotle would immediately be obsolete.
t. delusional fagan, retarded even
>it’s just incomprehensible jargon (Parmenides)
Found the retard
I'm most bummed about the loss of the Neoplatonic schizo stuff. I want to read the devotions to Hecate.
>2/3 of Titus Livus lost forever
its unironically over, we must reset our civilization and start once again.
All the histories written about the Punic wars are lost forever. How to cope with this fact?
>The easier writing materials—papyrus in particular, but also parch- ment—were obviously more perishable than the tablets: we learn more from Niniveh about Babylonian and Assyrian culture than we can from most Greek and Roman sources about Greek culture.11 We cannot even chart precisely the streets of ancient Alexandria nor plot on an archaeologi- cal map the foundations of the library and its subsidiary collection. Papyrus was a great enabler; it made the act of writing easier, with the introduction of a simplified alphabet and, given the grain of papyrus, the ability to vary letter-forms. It was inevitable that a scroll-making industry should develop and the literary arts spread far and wide. But when a palace or library burned down, clay tablets were baked into stone; papyrus and parchment burned, stoking the flames. We possess substantially more textual material from the millennia before the Greeks than from the Greek periods themselves
This actually gives me some hope for the future: in some distant era everything from our time stored in digital format will be irretrievable, and nothing of consequence will have been lost
thoth ruined EVERYTHING
Destruction of knowledge is great. I'm completely Qin Shi Huangpilled. If I ever take over, I will establish an entire ministry whose only job it is to find and destroy old books, while writing, in every language, fifteen different copies of every classical text, each one being inaccurate to the original and coming to different conclusions.
I will see to it that Thrasymachus wins his argument with Socrates in one, and in another, Socrates concludes that the wearer of the Ring of Ganges has a moral responsibility to do evil, so that people fear the unseen. I will see to it that Achilles defects to the Trojans and founds Rome. Caesar died in Parthia. The Emperors of Germany were called the Krassars, after the first Emperor Crassus.
We will genetically engineer a virus that eats paper and parchment, airborne, and release it on every continent. We will create computer viruses that copy, edit, and rename documents in all formats, creating twenty different variations on every record before deleting the original. I will make the Berenstein Bears consistent.
I will commit TOTAL KNOWLEDGE DEATH, and obliterate all history and culture. Every trace of the written word not etched in stone will die. Nobody will remember that it was me, because it will never end, a hundred years after my death people will disagree whether I was a radio TV show host, a character in Game of Thrones or the Devourer of Truth.
Good thing you’re institutionalized, huh?
If they let people in institutions use the internet every asylum would be rangebanned within the hour.
No I'm a free normal man, I just want to save the world.
Well then drop more truths on us oh mad philosopher king.
What about any of that suggested to you that I'm interested in expanding human knowledge? Even an explanation of my motives would contradict them. Suffice to say that I would cut the gordian knot. Merely deleting the canon is insufficient, it might be remembered--to instead render the canon indistinguishable from fanfiction is more cruel and therefore more just.
Well then further expound upon your philosophy, if you would be so kind as to indulge me. I’d lie and say I’d vote for you but I’m not into gay shit.
All of history before the modern era is forgery and lies anyway, and most of the modern stuff is too. Nobody has ever had any incentive to write down the objective truth.
This is the most foolish self defeating lie on this whole board right now. I came into this thread, skipped every other post, just to tell you you are so mistaken. If you don’t take an initiative and figure out how to trust history you will live like a dog, who knows no history, eats his own feces and will be raped by a furry before he is buried in a shallow grave. May the God of grace spare you from your own faulty historical opinions
If they're anything like Socratic text, they aren't worth it.
You should try getting into the library under the Vatican and report back to us.
Read Spengler
>you will never be able to read folktales from defunct societies that had no writing system
I have tablets for that too, but the transcriptions cost a little extra. Well worth it mind you. You can’t put a price tag on culture after all.