Plot twist

Plot twist

  1. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bullshit.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.axios.com/2022/11/23/colorado-club-shooting-suspect-non-binary-attorneys-say?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=social

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >what, you think a mass murder would lie?
        If you think it’s in any way sincere and not coming from the same place of bigotry as the shooting you need to be sterilized for eugenic reasons.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you think theres no way its personal motives?

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Having a functioning brain and not being a drooling retard.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          >You think a man would lie about being trans just to gain an advantage?

          >This right here is the problem with self-ID.
          yeah it works as long as no one is malicious.

          >honor system, bro
          Telling women that they need to trust any schlong is who he says he is, is coming to bite you in the ass.

          Also guarantee some brain-drained right-winger is gonna respond to this with
          >wow you’re misgendering them and not respecting their identity

          Okay here’s the thing I don’t think we need some all encompassing perfect rule to determine who’s trans or not, we can just use a little bit of common sense. Like if someone claims they’re trans only after being arrested with literally 0 previous inclination they were trans we can conclude that no, they’re just faking it for whatever reason(lesser sentence, slandering the trans community, get into woman’s prison.) Trying to come up with some perfect method to determine who is and who isn’t “really” trans in every single situation is an exercise in futility and unnecessary. What I would like to say, although this is absolutely cruel and unusual punishment, is that every fucker who claims they’re trans after a crime to try and scrape some benefit from the identity should be forced to get SRS. I bet that would make all of them drop the ruse real fast.

          This guy is going to spend his entire defense explaining how he discovered Jesus, or in this case, his gender identity while other mentally ill men fight amongst themselves over who is really trans or not. Then he'll be convicted of murder, but no hate crimes, and spend the rest of his life in solitary.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Having a functioning brain and not being a drooling retard.

          Dog the shooter's motive hasn't been identified yet. They very well could have just shot up the club because of a bad breakup or something.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Ok retard, and if it starts raining we won’t have confirmation of the cause until someone physically goes up in a plane to investigate.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              0 IQ analogy. Rain is a repeatable process. Mass murder is not.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                It is if you instigate multiple sleeper agents or leaded water victims

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 days ago
                Ayden

                >Rain is a repeatable process. Mass murder is not.
                Repeat rain pls
                You utter retard

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I mean scientists have created indoor environments that replicate a rain cycle, but you are just being a disingenuous cunt. You know that rain is a process which follows a clear, repeatable pattern, whereas mass murder is not. Mass murder is the result of a faulty individual, each one has unique reasons and motivations.

              • 3 days ago
                Ayden

                >each one has a unique reason
                That's why you can see the same issues pop up with every single one of them?
                >inb4 BUT NOT THIS EXACT SHOOTING
                yes also not that exact rain

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Tell that to Americans

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I am an American. Mass murder is not a simple puzzle nor is it even REMOTELY as well understood as fucking rain.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Tell that to MKULTRA.
                If I were an eccentric billionaire I would bet you nine hundred million dollars right now that if we agreed on a male target between 21-26 that had never worked I could get them to commit a mass causality event before 30 without so much as meeting them in person.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >the government is magic and all powerful
                >the government has had complete control of everyone this whole time

                CIA posters are so funny.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                You’re reading too much into it
                I’m just saying it’s predictable and repeatable in theory, not orchestrated IRL.

          • 3 days ago
            P. Sevenleaf

            >They very well could have just shot up the club because of a bad breakup
            No enby has ever shot up a school or a church or a club because of a bad breakup lol that's something literally only cisgender men do, c'mon man you're being intellectually dishonest here. Good-faith self identification is a thing but we also have to recognize patterns. Spree shooters are men. Full stop.

            And even if his motivation was something personal like a break-up, what does that change exactly? It's still an act of straight cis male violence, and it's an act that upholds straight cis male supremacy even if his motive wasn't explicitly "grr I hate fags".

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              >No enby has ever shot up a school or a church or a club because of a bad breakup lol that's something literally only cisgender men do
              This is the dumbest fucking response yet
              >what does that change exactly?
              It's the difference between a politically motivated hate crime and a personal vendetta out of control. They have very different legal and moral implications, although I believe they should be punished the same (execution).

              >each one has a unique reason
              That's why you can see the same issues pop up with every single one of them?
              >inb4 BUT NOT THIS EXACT SHOOTING
              yes also not that exact rain

              >That's why you can see the same issues pop up with every single one of them?
              Nope! Sometimes there are common themes, but the only way you can claim they all have the "same issues" is to ignore the stories of the shooter entirely and just hamfist them into your own narrative about their motivations.
              >yes also not that exact rain
              No, maybe this is the dumbest response yet.

              You’re reading too much into it
              I’m just saying it’s predictable and repeatable in theory, not orchestrated IRL.

              >I’m just saying it’s predictable and repeatable in theory
              Not to the same degree as rain my friend, which is why the original analogy ya'll keep defending was trash.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                A shooting triggered by a bad break up is a politically motivated hate crime just like all domestic violence committed by cis men.

              • 2 days ago
                Anonymous

                Hard agree.
                Hate crimes based on sex are never prosecuted.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        so can we gaslight and gatekeep again now

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Bullshit
      Stop it right now! Non-binary people are valid. Respect them.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Would be hilarious if true, but it isn’t.

      should have stomped him out more, a corpse can't defend itself

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Would be hilarious if true, but it isn’t.

      should have stomped him out more, a corpse can't defend itself

      No goke no homo

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Coooooope

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      this. Let's bring back the electric chair and fry this bitch into the afterlife

  2. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Would be hilarious if true, but it isn’t.

  3. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    should have stomped him out more, a corpse can't defend itself

  4. 3 days ago
    balls

    attempting to negate the fact this was a hate crime

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      And try to avoid the hate crime charges. Does CO have a death penalty?

      you can be a member of a targeted group and still commit a hate crime against them in america.

  5. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    i believe it

  6. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ah, the Kevin Spacey defense

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      !!!!!!!!
      Ding ding ding!!!!

  7. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    i literally predicted this, rightoids are the most NPC retards on this planet

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      January 6 is a fear mongering bullshit.
      If you try to bring it up you're gonna make me think this attack was bullshit too

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >threats involving explosives which were actually found nearby and officer killed
        >I-its just fear mongering!

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Not as NPC as voluntarily castrating yourself

  8. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    he's obviously just trying to fuck with people lol

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      And try to avoid the hate crime charges. Does CO have a death penalty?

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      *They

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      i literally predicted this, rightoids are the most NPC retards on this planet

      Bullshit.

      [...]
      We know he’s lying
      You know he’s lying
      We know you know he’s lying
      You know we know you know he’s lying
      We know you know we know you know he’s lying
      Shut
      The
      Fuck
      Up

      You are arguing in bad faith since we both know he’s lying
      [...]
      True. Sue him for inciting violence after the next attack then.

      [...]
      Are you genuinely incapable of recognizing trolling. It's rightoid terrorist 101.

      >he's not REALLY non-binary!
      well duh, nobody is really non-binary because it doesn't exist. It's something mentally ill people call themselves because they believe they will get some benefit out of it, whether it's earning special snowflake points or gaining sympathy from a jury.

  9. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    could u imagine being this guys lawyer and actually telling him to say that to negate his sentence

    saul goodman type of shit fr

  10. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    he is a 300 pound groyper what did you expect in his head this is his "gotcha!"

  11. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    This right here is the problem with self-ID.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >This right here is the problem with self-ID.
      yeah it works as long as no one is malicious.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >as long as no one is malicious.
        every knows malicious behavior exists, we don't live in fairy tale fantasy land, kid. what we need is an established order of trained professionals to identify everyone's gender.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          do you not see the issue with this
          you fuckers seriously trust "professional" doctors with absolutely everything no questions because you're appeal to authority retards who think diagnosing people genders will totally work and totally won't turn into a form of conversion therapy

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        No one being malicious isn’t realistic, there will always be someone who exploits self-ID.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      What problem? Some cowards having to literally live as the wrong genders like the people they hate because they want to save their asses just a bit more? He’s never getting out.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Unambiguously believing self-ID is going to let right-wingers off the hook in this instance, since by the left’s own standards this can’t be considered as the obvious hate crime that it is, and don’t act like the perp just changing pronouns to they/them will be in any way difficult for him.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          It is though. To be forced to live as a different identity, using the wrong pronouns, that is a force worse than death. This is proof alone that the shooter is truly non-binary.

  12. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Depraved.

  13. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    one of these days there's gonna be a mass shooter that used the fake ironic pronouns on twitter, and the media is going to take it completely seriously as proof they're trans

  14. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >plot twist
    no, no, it sounds exactly what some kind of ebin "owning the libtards" style rightoid would do

  15. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    the unfortunate high suicide rate amongst the pronouns crowd suggests that a high homocide rate is also likely to exist. misery loves company. pretending to be a cis normie and living your life that way completely is the long term survivor's choice

  16. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Inside job.

  17. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    We need to stop trans terrorism

  18. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Benny Johnson is so hot i want him to cream my boipussy

  19. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >believing this

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Golden filename

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      boomer ass file name

  20. 3 days ago
    Melanie

    This is so obviously just an attempt to hurt us more. Literally no other evidence for it except someone who just shot up an LGBT club saying he’s trans. I don’t even think the right-wingers really believe he is, they just want to hurt us more too so they go along with it. I mean shit dude even with all the hate towards us at least I don’t have seething hate in my heart 24/7. Messed up way to live.

    • 3 days ago
      Melanie

      Also guarantee some brain-drained right-winger is gonna respond to this with
      >wow you’re misgendering them and not respecting their identity

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Of course though.
        When are we allowed to say someone isn't trans?
        What are the rules?
        Is it OK if we don't like them?
        Is Jenner trans?
        I'm a lefty homo, but these rules were never properly defined. Normally we could use science, but that doesn't apply. There's no test that isn't subjective.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          ok what instance of them can you discover of them saying that they are trans? even other times they said they were nonbinary?

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't nb a form of trans identity? That's where I'm forming an argument from. I've been yelled at for questioning if NB is trans. Once again, your definitions are even up for question.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Isn't nb a form of trans identity?
              no

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              It’s not trans, it is queer tho, but that’s beside the point. If there’s evidence t(he)y identified as NB beforehand, than yea we should believe t(he)y’re nb. If not than it’s an obvious cynical move to attempt to dodge hate crime charges and slander actual non-binary people in the process.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Closeted? They need to be out?
                Listen to yourself. You had a shitty ID system many of us pointed out, you spent years condemning us for questioning, and now that the shit hit the fan you're changing rules.
                They're just going to have to call him "they".
                Otherwise, if you try to sue for discrimination a judge can just say "You ain't trans".
                That's bad and not what we want.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Arraignment court-filing is a hell of a forum to come out in.
                They don’t need to have X on their driver’s license, literally just having one person testify that they told them about it, or providing a journal entry, or something like that would prove it just fine. There’s no way a person thought about changing their gender identity without leaving a single trace of it. Enter their search history as evidence for all I care! That would work!

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Irrelevant though. Is it a law that they have to previously state so? No. That's transphobic.
                Why not have trans folks get a driver's license of sort? Or wear a star on their shirts?
                You're advocating for something really bad that will hurt you.
                Since no rules were defined previously he's non-binary because stating you are is all that's required.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          providing literally any evidence at all that predates a hate crime rap

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            So now trans and nb people need to prove they're trans? Uhhh. You're harming trans people with that thinking.

            Okay here’s the thing I don’t think we need some all encompassing perfect rule to determine who’s trans or not, we can just use a little bit of common sense. Like if someone claims they’re trans only after being arrested with literally 0 previous inclination they were trans we can conclude that no, they’re just faking it for whatever reason(lesser sentence, slandering the trans community, get into woman’s prison.) Trying to come up with some perfect method to determine who is and who isn’t “really” trans in every single situation is an exercise in futility and unnecessary. What I would like to say, although this is absolutely cruel and unusual punishment, is that every fucker who claims they’re trans after a crime to try and scrape some benefit from the identity should be forced to get SRS. I bet that would make all of them drop the ruse real fast.

            It all depends on how much trans matters. Does it? Hate crime or not he's never getting out. CO abolished the death penalty so what's an additional hundred years ontop of maybe 125?
            It just means they'll have to refer to him as "they", "xir", whatever in court. Otherwise, do you want it to be OK if courts can decide if someone is trans or not?
            That won't work in your favor.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              >coming out of the closet 30 minutes after a hate crime
              i know you're being a retarded sealion, but i also want you to know that you are personally unattractive as well. elon musk is a better poster than you.

              • 3 days ago
                Melanie

                Drag that fucker GRAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE CONCERN TROLLS

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                How does someone prove trans status other than simply claiming it? One doesn't need to transition to be trans.
                I'm merely playing devil's advocate and doing what the defense would do.
                Hands are tied. He's NB to the court.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Literally doesn't matter. Court of public opinion is not obligated to accept his petulant retardation. As far as the law goes, *they* can enjoy being ass raped in prison like the fat little piggy bitch *they* are for the rest of *their* life.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh boy. A rape joke. I love laughing at raped trans people as well.
                >rolls eyes
                You've failed miserably. Hope you never go to jail and have a judge deny your designated gender.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone knows he isn't really trans. You know we know he's not trans. We know you know he's not trans. Unironically yes. I hope his little piggy butt is raped for eternity. He deserves it, and I would laugh about it.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Uhhh. You're harming trans people with that thinking.
              lmao nagger you do not care about this lolll

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Courts, news outlets, police, and prisons already do this regularly. There is no precedent to be set. It is okay to refuse to use this guy's pronouns

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Courts are different you retard.
                How can you sue for discrimination if a court chooses to deny you're trans?
                Learn to law better.
                They're NB. Deal with it. You allowed designation without requiring proof. Your fault.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                So fucking what? It's meaningless in every way and everyone knows exactly why he's claiming to be NB. It doesn't mean or do anything, there is no real consequence other than a few shitty thread on here.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It's meaningless
                Sweet cope you can drink like the most delicious nectar. Itll shatter the lgbt.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't allow shit. It's also okay to deny and cut off obvious attention seeking cis scum that co-opt non binary identities for clout. Self ID has always been a spook invented by afabs. But you're too retarded and hateful to understand that the whole community doesn't revolve around Tumblr logic.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Demon. You're using this to posture, split hairs, quibble, argue about shit beside the point.

              People were killed.

        • 3 days ago
          Melanie

          Okay here’s the thing I don’t think we need some all encompassing perfect rule to determine who’s trans or not, we can just use a little bit of common sense. Like if someone claims they’re trans only after being arrested with literally 0 previous inclination they were trans we can conclude that no, they’re just faking it for whatever reason(lesser sentence, slandering the trans community, get into woman’s prison.) Trying to come up with some perfect method to determine who is and who isn’t “really” trans in every single situation is an exercise in futility and unnecessary. What I would like to say, although this is absolutely cruel and unusual punishment, is that every fucker who claims they’re trans after a crime to try and scrape some benefit from the identity should be forced to get SRS. I bet that would make all of them drop the ruse real fast.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          We need brain scans yesterday

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up. Seriously? You're going to pearl clutch over these retarded fuckfuck games?

          He committed politically motivated mass murder then coopted the identities of the people who he just killed to mock them further.

          How dare you even ask this repugnant question.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm just laying it out the way a defense attorney would. I don't believe him, but I also think 99% of NB people are lying for attention. Who do we believe when there's no test or way to prove it?
            Your community created this mess by not gate-keeping.

            Demon. You're using this to posture, split hairs, quibble, argue about shit beside the point.

            People were killed.

            Explain when it is ok to misgender or not use pronouns then. Is it ok for courts to? It would be useful to know when assigning trans people to the correct location in prison.

            You're all missing the point.
            If they deny his trans status because they refuse to acknowledge it then IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU!

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm just
              >you are responsible for mass killings waged against you
              are you genuinely evil?

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Transmedicalism aka science says the dividing line is coming out after puberty starts, which wipes out nearly 100% of tttt

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Also guarantee some brain-drained right-winger is gonna respond to this with
      >wow you’re misgendering them and not respecting their identity

      Thank you Mel

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      i think it's more likely this is just an act, but it's certainly possible the shooter is non-binary. we really have no way of knowing at this point. the important thing to remember is that non-binary is a made up thing, and technically everyone who claims such an identity is techincally "faking" it.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        non binary is tumblr rp from a decade ago

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      100% this. It's just insult to injury. Salt in the wounds. One last "I identify as a helicopter" joke for good measure. It's so blatant, and so blatant that it will be used as conprop to say that it's "gay on gay crime".

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Someone should do some retard in retard crime at Fox News in Minecraft

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >self id for me but not for thee

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Unless nb is something different.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Non-binary people don't owe you evidence.

      What happened is a tragedy, but it's no excuse to be a bigot

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        kek at you, a spicy sis, telling a trans woman she is the bigot

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Her dysphoria doesn't grant her immunity to being a bigot

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, lot to unpack here.
      Just because the shooter looks like an ordinary, masculine cis man, doesn't mean they can't be enby, or even a trans woman.
      Enbies don't heckin owe you androgyny.
      The mere act of declaring themselves enby or trans means they're literally as valid, and face literally the same oppression, if not more, as girlmoding trans women on HRT.

      t. Sock

    • 2 days ago
      Anonymous

      Okay here’s the thing I don’t think we need some all encompassing perfect rule to determine who’s trans or not, we can just use a little bit of common sense. Like if someone claims they’re trans only after being arrested with literally 0 previous inclination they were trans we can conclude that no, they’re just faking it for whatever reason(lesser sentence, slandering the trans community, get into woman’s prison.) Trying to come up with some perfect method to determine who is and who isn’t “really” trans in every single situation is an exercise in futility and unnecessary. What I would like to say, although this is absolutely cruel and unusual punishment, is that every fucker who claims they’re trans after a crime to try and scrape some benefit from the identity should be forced to get SRS. I bet that would make all of them drop the ruse real fast.

      Melanie I don't know who you are and I've never interacted with you before but I want you to know you're based and correct and I'm surprised you have the patience to even engage with people this retarded, even if it's only to the benefit of any third person reading the convo.

  21. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    new cheat code to dodge hate crime charges just dropped.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Is it fair to nb people if a court can deny if you're nb? Dangerous precedent to set. That harms NB people in the long run. Claim discrimination? Courts say you're not NB even though you're wearing the latest NB fashions.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        No, self-identification should be everyone’s right, but this is about as legitimate as a nazi shooting up a mosque and than claiming they’re a Muslim after the fact.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Who defines trans legitimacy? Is Chris Chan trans? A lot would say she isn't. Or Contra.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Chris chan publicly identified as trans before committing a crime. I would say that’s important.

            We have to be cynical about information that’s only revealed when someone needs to put together a legal defense.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            how is contra not trans?

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Wanting to detransition because cis women are not willing to sleep with you is peak trender.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Chris chan publicly identified as trans before committing a crime. I would say that’s important.

            We have to be cynical about information that’s only revealed when someone needs to put together a legal defense.

            It's important to note that chris chan was groomed into raping their bother by a kiwifarms stalker.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Still a strong woman. Strong enough to overpower her elderly mother according to charges. Girl power meets retard strength.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              No chris chan wasn't groomed. Chris chan raped his mother of his own choice. Unless you have docs?

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Chris is mentally retarded, extremely gullible, has been stalked for over a decade, and had some crazy chick telling chris to have sex with barb.
                im not gonna give you the docs cause this shit is genuinely vile.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Are you talking about Bella? I think you are wrong. Chris chan mentioned to a member of the teen troop squad a year before he raped barb that he had fantasy about his mother. So I find it much more likely chris did what he did because that is what he wanted.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                this is a dumb argument bc at the end of the day we cant go back and see what chris wouldvd done without bella whispering pervy shit all the time, all we know is what happened and it seems like we cant ignore that people behind the scenes were influencing events for whatever reason

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                What did Bella do anon? Poi t me to where I can find what you are talking about. What I have seen is the call where chris chan admits to what he did to barb and some weird discord shit where she planed gay ops to have chris kil himself? I've yet to see anything where bella was encouraging chris to rape his mother.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Chris Chan is mentally disabled and so are (You)
                He cannot consent

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I like how your framing the mother rapist in such a way that he is the victim of not being able to consent.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Proving my point for me, thanks

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                nagger. Chris could consent to sex. He wanted sex. He was a sex obsessed weirdo. He raped his mom. He is not a victim.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                He was a mentally disabled person that was systematically gangstalked for a decade+ and everyone involved including people super into “following the saga” should be lynched.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                He wasn't gangstalked homosexual. Everything anyone ever knew about Chris Chan was given freely. People followed him because he would do and say funny shit.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                a woman made him do it. Just like a woman raised him to be this way. the most male brained thing you can do is blame a woman for raping someone.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            This should not an argument over trans validity as a whole, you’re begging the question. This can easily be resolved by asking whether or not they identified as nb prior to committing the hate crime, it’s really not that complicated.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              They just came out.
              Been a hard eternal struggle full of self hating.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              The Kiwi Farms stalked later bragged about it, this is well documented.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Show evidence. Are you talking about bella?

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                fuck, this was supposed to be a reply to

                No chris chan wasn't groomed. Chris chan raped his mother of his own choice. Unless you have docs?

                but i somehow managed to click the wrong one.

            • 3 days ago
              Melanie

              Literally. Like there’s no need to argue it in any other situation. If they just came out after committing a crime, they’re not really trans. It’s that simple, anyone arguing against this or for it being some grand definition is getting caught in minutiae.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        I think it’s still a hate crime if it’s targeted on one group of people. If a black person murders black people for being black (or for being like Nigerian or something) that’s still potentially a hate crime. If a Christian burns a church down it’s still potentially a hate crime.

        • 2 days ago
          P. Sevenleaf

          >If a black person murders black people for being black (or for being like Nigerian or something) that’s still potentially a hate crime
          Not sure I agree with that. A black person killing another black person for being the wrong kind of black IS a crime rooted in prejudice and hate, but does it uphold any kind of systemic injustice? Really the phrase "hate crime" needs to actually mean something, and I don't think any variant of quote-unquote "black on black crime" would qualify.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Is it fair to nb people if a court can deny if you're nb? Dangerous precedent to set. That harms NB people in the long run. Claim discrimination? Courts say you're not NB even though you're wearing the latest NB fashions.

      You can be convicted of a hate crime against your own race/sex/sexuality/gender.
      It is -0.5D chess.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Hate crime doesn't matter. There's no death penalty. He's already going away for more than life with 5 dead.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Not having a death or sloth is the stupidest thing.
          Animals like this don’t have to neurology to understand or truly suffer from punishment, and keeping them alive for decades is a waste of money.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            *a death penalty, stupid phone

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Its stupid that i dont have a sloth though

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ikr

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Death penalty is more expensive long term than life in prison. Mostly because with the death penalty you get three guaranteed appeals, which are tremendously expensive for (usually state) governments to litigate. Doesn’t cost much to throw someone in jail forever, feed them the bare minimum, barely let them shower or get medical care, etc. A lot of times you get forced labor too so you pay them .20 cents a day to mow the grass at the state capitol or pick up dead animals on the side of the highway or something.

  22. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    we're allowed to dead name and not use their pronouns in this instance right? I don't think he deserves the grace. Totally making this shit up as they go along. He was mormon, there's no way he was ever going to come out or take it seriously.

  23. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Classic CHUD: “actually I identify as an attack helicopter”.

    His lawyers are doing this to muddy the waters, deflect blame from the right-wing pundits who spread hate propaganda everyday, and potentially avoid hate crime charges.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      His lawyers are public defenders, they’re not the cream of the crop.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Actually wealthy urban counties often have very good public defenders with high standards. The parkland shooter had a good team for his case. Just depends what office your case is assigned to.

        The federal PD bench is also pretty good usually.

  24. 3 days ago
    Melanie

    Here’s how you know this is fucking lies, I have never seen a female convict claim they were a trans man immediately after getting arrested for a violent crime. It is literally only men doing this shit to try and get into woman’s prisons or dodge a sentence. If it was a legit thing you’d expect from both sexes, but nope.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because claiming you’re a man doesn’t benefit your defense in any way. A vid AFAB person wouldn’t want to get sent to a men’s jail

      • 3 days ago
        Melanie

        I know that’s what I’m saying. Like they’re definitely not really trans, they just want to improve their defence.

        Genius move honestly

        Hurts the intended target way more and serves as a defense against the obvious hate crime in an instant

        Most insidious shit possible

        Gettin real tired

        It really is the most harm he could cause.

  25. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Identifying as nb was always a cynic move, this just makes it even more obvious.

  26. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Genius move honestly

    Hurts the intended target way more and serves as a defense against the obvious hate crime in an instant

    Most insidious shit possible

    Gettin real tired

  27. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? Being non-binary doesn’t unkill those other 5 people.

  28. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >be me, nazi
    >shoot up synagogue
    >on trial
    >”actually I’m a convert to judaism”
    Do you get it now?

  29. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not my problem if you refuse to think even one critical thought.

  30. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >be transphobe
    >want to do a mass shooting
    >change pronouns to blame trans people
    Wow.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      It’s that easy apparently. Not one person on the right will be even vaguely suspicious of this claim.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why should they be. The man who attacked Paul Pelosi was

        .A nudist activist
        .Blm supporter
        .Made hemp israeliteelry
        .Drug addicted
        .Illegal alien
        .Cuckold

        Yet the attack was blamed on maga/gamergate by the media. This isn't unique to the right wing.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          above all else he was a schizo.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          People change. He went from a Green Party member to supporting MAGA conspiracies, because ‘hippies’ are prone to buying in to anything that’s “anti-establishment”.

  31. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this is the second trans mass shooter, maybe its cis people that should be locked in asylums.

  32. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    she should have kept stomping so he could identify as a stiletto through the frontal lobe

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically if the veteran had just pistol-whipped him a few more times. Wasn’t satisfied with murdering people, had to try and blame them for their deaths in court.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah for once it’s a shame they lived

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. He is scum and should not be alive while others are dead. I want pictures of his bloody pulp of a face after the beating.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Nah that vet shouldn’t have to live with any more blood on his hands. The endless humiliation and eventual violent rape experienced by this killer kid will catch up with him. Memes aren’t as funny in a cell.

  33. 3 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Poor mom

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder what his mom is thinking right now.

      Would be funny if THIS made his MAGA grandpa disown him, and not the whole mass murder thing.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      > told me to get ready to have the best night ever!
      Actual psychopathy Jesus Christ
      Give it the chair

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >he told me to get ready to have the best night ever!
        holy shit lol

        🙁

    • 3 days ago
      Gargantuhon

      >he told me to get ready to have the best night ever!
      holy shit lol

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus fucking christ
      imagine instead of spending time with your own mother that loves you, you actually ditch her which is humiliating, then go fucking kill people dragging her name in the mud forever.
      fucking christ

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because no one has had parents that refuse to use their chosen pronouns.....

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Basically we won’t know what’s actually going on until the mom says, “yes, my child is non-binary and I refused to recognize their pronouns” or “no, my son has never said anything like that to me in his life.”

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          You are correct we don't know anything. It still does not make her the final say what another person is. This case gets stranger the more its getting sifted over.

          nice try, /misc/

          Not a poltard but now that you mention it I notice /lgbt/ raids them often and should not be mad when they return the favor. This place also forfeits any claim to equality or tolerance after observing behaviors and discords among other venues. The infighting and backstabbing in this 'community' is beyond gross. The ones that actually want to be allies to trans get mogged and denigrated at every turn by people who demand not just blind acceptance but submissive participation in their world view exclusively. No wonder things are as they are.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            >not a poltard but
            >rattles off poltard talking points
            I have bad news

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            >not a /misc/tard but I'm a /misc/tard
            ??

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            >I notice /lgbt/ raids them often and should not be mad when they return the favor.
            No we don’t wtf

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            The poltard cries out in pain as he hits you

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Of course the token salute of anti-semitism one more for that column. You see I have this fun machine that likes counting words and keeping score. It has been entertaining watching some of these boards how they go on and at each other and how easy they stir. /b/ and /LULZ/ are at least honest about their derangement's.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        nice try, /misc/

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't half the fucking retarded tranny posting on this board about men breaking down and crying because someone gendered them a man in public?

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      > told me to get ready to have the best night ever!
      Actual psychopathy Jesus Christ
      Give it the chair

      Jesus fucking christ
      imagine instead of spending time with your own mother that loves you, you actually ditch her which is humiliating, then go fucking kill people dragging her name in the mud forever.
      fucking christ

      The mom reportedly told the son that his dad was dead and told the dad that his son was dead so both the father and son thought the other was dead. So the mom is a psychopath, she doesn't love her son, and she created this monster.

      • 2 days ago
        Anonymous

        I mean yeah that was a given from the bomb threat.
        Children that kill their parents almost universally do it as a reaction to severe abuse.

  34. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >trusting the words of a TPUSA ghoul

  35. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/club-q-shooter-used-anti-gay-slurs-frequently-attack-lgbtq-bar/

    Here’s an interview with a friend of the shooter. Says he was prone to using homophobic slurs and making threats against people.

  36. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Did Mx. Aldritch think they were epicly owning le trannies with this? It changes virtually nothing and just makes them look like a petulant ass lmao
    Have fun in prison bitch

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Rightoids will run with it because they have zero intellectual integrity.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Literally just heard it reported on FN tonight. You can bet Tuckboi will lead with it tomorrow.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty epic that right-wingers have found a foolproof way to shift the blame for any terrorist attacks they commit onto the attacked groups. Honestly have no idea how we can overcome this intense of a divide in our perception of basic facts.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Move somewhere without right wingers, let them destroy their state economies and become vassals of China or Iran-like oppressive racist theocracies.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Literally just heard it reported on FN tonight. You can bet Tuckboi will lead with it tomorrow.

        This shit isn't unique to right stop being homosexuals.

  37. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    This is the worst attempt at a false flag I've ever seen and yet the mainstream will lap it up because they're fucking sheep that have never met a real trans person.

  38. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Me chilling here in my bed playin’ Metroid Dread

  39. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It’s ok anon, I’m not even trans. It’s just plain-old gay for you to think about me in bed.

  40. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nah, this is just a right-wing in joke. The shooter is using his platform to make a mockery of the people he murdered; there’s nothing funnier to him than getting a bunch of liberals to stick up for his alleged gender identity. It’s like an attack helicopter joke on the largest scale imaginable.

  41. 3 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      He used his undiagnosed autism as a shield before.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        So they are trans

  42. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    The sheer evil and cynism of it all astounds me. How can he hold so much hate in him? He really is /misc/'s good little soldier

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Could be anecdotal but every rightie and basher I knew that was prone to violence was repressing their own sexuality hard and wound up in jail or eventually came out and chilled out. It's too bad this little monster is in CO, they should be put down like a rabid animal. I don't care what their pronouns are if they abandon their humanity so violently.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        I hope my brother is the exception and just a hater, because after all his bullshit with me if he tried to come out as a woman I’d probably just give him the option to hang himself or I’d come by and cap him the next morning.

  43. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    lmao i bet you regret disrespecting enbies now

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      No I am even more vindicated actually

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      If anything, we were right, it's totally fake and an attention seeking move.

  44. 3 days ago
    smug_femboy

    >people are trying to deny their gender identity
    lol you have become what you despise, just like when you tried to deny that the man who attempted to stab Dave Chapple had anything to do with the trans comments either.

  45. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Rigt wingers really think we are stupid?

  46. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Shut the fuck up retard

    Shut up. Seriously? You're going to pearl clutch over these retarded fuckfuck games?

    He committed politically motivated mass murder then coopted the identities of the people who he just killed to mock them further.

    How dare you even ask this repugnant question.

    Seriously the people pussyfooting about it are as bad as the fake belief of the neonazis.
    His lawyer needs to be disbarred. They aren’t allowed to outright lie, especially when it will materially lead to further attacks.

  47. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    smfd back to r/the_donald you're not fucking funny or creative

  48. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    With the way the trans community throws non-binary people under the bus, I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually an enby

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      I will bet anyone everything I own and my life that he isn’t.
      It’s a fucking groyper

  49. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    How can you be so low in both IQ and EQ that you think anyone thinks you believe this bullshit?

  50. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Non-binaries don’t say “xir”. You will never be funny

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why to transmedicalists feel like they can impose themselves on non-binary people?

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        I never mentioned anything about transmedicalalism I just think you’re unfunny

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Different poster, retard

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        why do non-binaries feel entitled to kill transmedicalists?

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Go back, chud

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            but i’m from here, i’m just sick of you cissoids pretending you’re trans and playing the victim. literally a trans woman was killed in this shooting and you’re in a thread abt the shooting pretending like she was your oppressor.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              The whole push for "enbies don't owe you androgyny" is so absurd that now cis people (cis women usually, but this time a cis man) can claim to be more oppressed than "binary trans women".

              Cis enbies' (gender conforming or not) pronouns are seen as more important than actually transitioning people.

  51. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We know he’s lying
    You know he’s lying
    We know you know he’s lying
    You know we know you know he’s lying
    We know you know we know you know he’s lying
    Shut
    The
    Fuck
    Up

  52. 3 days ago
    Anonymous
  53. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Everyone here knows you don't actually believe this anon

  54. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    lmao the amount of cope in this thread

  55. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    lmao the amount of cope in this thread

    Dunno chief, /misc/ calls out false flags all the damn time, yet it is somehow unreasonable to suspect one in this case? I mean "glowie psyop" is also still on the table.

  56. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    This is the consequence of pushing the "trans doesn't imply HRT, non-binary doesn't imply androgyny" line of thought.
    It makes these words lose all their meaning, and leaves us with nothing to advocate our rights.

    We already see this with gender-conforming cis women acting as if they belong to, or can speak for, the trans community.
    And it's going to get even worse when masculine cis men start doing the same.

  57. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    And this is why gatekeeping is 100% necessary and this "anyone can be anything at anytime without question" bullshit was bound to backfire.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      how do you plan to gatekeep. how do you plan to keep ppl off of hrt. how do you plan to decide ppls genders

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        It has to be codified in law. A medical professional would have to designate identity. Like they do with disabled people, diabetics, and retards.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Do you really think doctors know how to sort out a real tranny from a fake tranny?

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Real tranny: wants to go on HRT.
            Fake tranny: does not want HRT.

            Real enby: is at least reasonably androgynous
            Fake enby: cis girl (more rarely man) who looks like your typical cis person of their AGAB.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              what about non-trans people who are on hormones
              see you're doing the thing again where you're steering into anti-GNC territory

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            A psychologist can. At first the psychologist would rule out anxiety, depression, or some attention seeking behavior to rule out if that's the reason.
            Anyone can still call themselves NB or whatever, but for it to be officially recognized some form of gatekeeping would need to be done otherwise defendants can turn any courtroom into their own circus which the trans community assured us would never happen. So is he NB or not?

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, I know several people who have clear underlying causes (sexually assaulted as a child) that are several years into their transition.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Bullshit, a psychologist will just judge you based on sexist tradwife stereotypes.
              "Is this person on HRT" (or wants to be) is all it should take to determine if someone is trans or not.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Don't gatekeep HRT. Gatekeep trans identity based on being/wanting to be on HRT instead.

        Why the hell is trans the only minority that is NOT defined on a descriptive basis?

        Say "gay men are men who are attracted to other men", nobody bats an eyes.

        Say "trans people are people who take HRT to transition into the other sex/gender", and everybody loses their minds.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          that's prescriptive, not descriptive

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Descriptive: "That person takes feminizing HRT" => "that person is transfem"
            Identity based: "That person is trans because she says so"

            With gay and black people, it's descriptive ("is attracted to men", "has black skin color")

            For trans people, it unfortunately became "progressive" to say "because they just say so".
            F1nn5ter is way more trans than all the non-transitioning theyfabs combined.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      It was obvious that people would exploit this eventually. Like male prisoners claiming they're trans and getting put into female prisons.

  58. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Lawyer needs to be disbarred for knowingly lying to a judge in a way that incites violence.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Client's orders. You want your lawyer misgendering you out of fear of being disbarred?

      This is interesting. You here only advocate for what you feel benefits you at the current time in the current moment.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        You are arguing in bad faith since we both know he’s lying

        It’s really hard to get disbarred in most states.

        True. Sue him for inciting violence after the next attack then.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      It’s really hard to get disbarred in most states.

  59. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    cool
    let’s execute them

  60. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    At the very least, the minimum amount of gatekeeping should be proving that you were whatever you're claiming to be BEFORE being incarcerated. You shouldn't be allowed to claim you're a tranny or enby when the cuffs come on.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      What about people who were not aware they were trans at the time of the crime?

      And people who were unable or unwilling to come out previously, due to social pressure or work conditions?

      Should there be a maximum severity level of crimes which you are allowed to come out as trans afterwards?

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >What about people who were not aware they were trans at the time of the crime?
        Yeah bro, you weren't aware you were a tranny until the handcuffs came on. Shut the fuck up, no one is buying it.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it so unthinkable?

          How long do you think the minimum amount of time should be after arrest until you're allowed to come out as trans?

          What about when someone is wrongly arrested and their gender identity is important to the case in question, for example through witness testimony, but they were not previously out?

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      What about people who were not aware they were trans at the time of the crime?

      And people who were unable or unwilling to come out previously, due to social pressure or work conditions?

      Should there be a maximum severity level of crimes which you are allowed to come out as trans afterwards?

      it's because of people like you that many transwomen are currently suffering in men's prisons.

  61. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    His manifesto was literally an incel rant about homosexuals not wanting to have sex with him.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      that sounds like hsts though??

  62. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    WHY DOES IT MATTER
    just don't change the judgement or allow this fact in defense and they can use whatever fucking (real us english) pronouns they want

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      I think we hit the event horizon of people thinking you can only play for “your side”

      If they are nb truly it doesn’t even matter, they killed and they were motivated by hate guaranteed. Maybe it’ll come out that they were anti drag or whatever later

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >you can only play for “your side
        this is so fucking stupid I hate this I hate people I hate "teams" and these pathetic fucking grown adults trying to be cheerleaders while parading around their discriminatory crimes as the moral high ground god just FUCK peopel

  63. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    so do we know for a fact that this guy is anti LGBT terrorist, and do we know for a fact that he isn't enby

    like did he follow chuds r us on Facebook or something or what

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      He has a history of being a mega homophobe and bigot according to his neighbor. He's also a misogynist and would attack people on encyclopediadramatica.
      Never believe a word out of a rightoids mouth. Remember the Satre quote

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      They have Blaire Racist vouching for them

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      There is a long history of him hating gays with multiple acquaintances coming forward to talk about it. His grandfather is also a maga politician.

      But i know the point of posts like this is just to confuse discourse and that you don't actually care what reality is.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you putting members of the community down for internalized homophobia

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          kys

  64. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    The funny thing is, right wingers have so little critical thinking, they might be honest when they think this isn't a ploy.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm just saying if this is a ploy then he's remarkably committed to the bit. even Tarrant sobered up when it was time to go to trial

      He has a history of being a mega homophobe and bigot according to his neighbor. He's also a misogynist and would attack people on encyclopediadramatica.
      Never believe a word out of a rightoids mouth. Remember the Satre quote

      what sartre quote

      There is a long history of him hating gays with multiple acquaintances coming forward to talk about it. His grandfather is also a maga politician.

      But i know the point of posts like this is just to confuse discourse and that you don't actually care what reality is.

      >But i know the point of posts like this is just to confuse discourse and that you don't actually care what reality is.
      I do though, don't be mean

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >even Tarrant sobered up when it was time to go to trial
        He didn't think he could get his charges reduced with a "bit" though

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          what's the difference between getting convicted for 5 murders and 18 attempted murders, and 5 murders 18 attempted murders and 23 hate crimes, in Colorado?
          my first guess is that you would be in prison for the rest of your life either way

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Former you might get house arrest for a bit in your 80s
            Latter you’re in max security for life
            Don’t understand why none of the charges are terrorism.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >what sartre quote

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          that's cool and all but who brought up israelites

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          >This cucks face when he lost the debate with a based Nazi

          Lol this bitch got trolled hard

  65. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    They’re doing this to try to avoid hate crime charges to get a lighter sentence. Joke’s on them though, because I’m pretty sure you can commit a hate crime even if you are a member of the targeted community. In other words, all the prosecution has to prove is that the shooter targeted “their” victims for being lgbt. The shooter’s gender identity is irrelevant.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The shooter’s gender identity is irrelevant.
      Seriously?

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        nta yes entirely what the fuck does it matter

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          "Gender" identity is literally the entire basis of transgender, how can you say it doesn't matter?

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm asking you to explain how it does materially matter what the killer's identity was

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      as it fucking should be. people are hateful against their own kind all the time. also LGBT isn't all the same, it could be framed as a fag hating "tranny" shooting up the place.

  66. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Plot twist
    This is about as surprising as eating a turd and smelling like shit afterwards. Of course the rightoid schizo is gonna fall on the "I'm gay/trans!" defense, it's a political act, he's conducting political theatre. Plus it helps from a prosecution angle.

    I bet my left nut this fucker isn't actually an enby.

  67. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Are you genuinely incapable of recognizing trolling. It's rightoid terrorist 101.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >rightoid terrorist 101.
      is it? I dunno if I've seen this before

  68. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    I instantly thought it was just some fag/tranny that got pissed some twink didnt wanna fuck them when I heard about the shooting. Didn't once think hate crime.
    Tbf I think most shootings are cuz somebody was pissed off they're not getting laid and use political radicalization as cope

  69. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    how could you be one of said attorneys, say this, and not immediately self-terminate out of shame

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because you’re a public defender and you have seen way worse than this, and also you have to do what your client wants which isn’t necessarily what you want, and that’s just the nature of law.

  70. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    You know what? Fine. I hope he ends up in the "alternative sexuality" cell block with all the gays, drag queens, and trans people. They can beat him to a pulp daily for the duration of his 5 consecutive life sentences.

    • 2 days ago
      Anonymous

      The good ending

  71. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you thought the "AGAB-conforming cis female enbies" demographic was bad enough, wait 'til you see the nascent "AGAB-conforming cis male enbies" one (such as the shooter).

    Cis people with no transition or androgyny experience (not even desire to transition) claim to be us, and claim to speak on our behalf.
    They even put themselves above us in terms of oppression (against the evil "binary trans women").

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      the theyfab who said that is objectively correct and i feel like every tranny inherently agrees except insane trupooners (minority of a minority of a minority)

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        "Feminine AFAB who experiences the world as a cis woman" == "Cis woman"
        "Masculine AMAB shooter who experiences the world as a cis man == "Cis male shooter"

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Cis people with no transition or androgyny experience (not even desire to transition) claim to be us, and claim to speak on our behalf.
      >They even put themselves above us in terms of oppression (against the evil "binary trans women").

      Imagine being a fag like me and seeing bishit women in relationships with men doing this the past decade with absolute impunity. Im glad trannies are experiencing it now tbh

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        this, every leftwing white woman calls herself "bisexual" now because she needs the oppression points to get higher on the progressive stack.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >that pic
      >they actually like being AFAB
      What a fucking faker. As an *actual* enby, I fucking HATE being AMAB. If I was AFAB, 90% of the issues I have with my body would be fixed. I am too fucking tall, too fucking wide, my shoulders fucking suck, my natural scent is so GROSS, I just can't fucking stand it! I hate it! If I was AFAB instead then 90% of my issues would be solved immediately.

      What sort of "enby" doesn't have crippling gender dysphoria?

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >What sort of "enby" doesn't have crippling gender dysphoria?
        The majority of them?

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Most of them are (often gender conforming) cis people of their AGAB.
          How they managed to self-elevate as the most oppressed trans minority is baffling.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        Gender Dysphoria changes in severity depending on when the person with it is feeling like begging for sympathy

  72. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >https://news.sky.com/story/colorado-gay-club-shooting-suspect-identifies-as-non-binary-lawyers-say-12753647
    So according to this article the shooter was arrested last year after his mom called the cops on him after he threatened her with a bomb and she claimed he was "possessed". It looks like he had a complicated childhood too because he was at one point being raised by his grandparents and he changed his name at the age of 15, supposedly to protect him from his criminal father.

    Part of me suspects the non-binary thing is a ruse but another part of me thinks the guy was probably a nutcase and maybe he really did identify as enby. Not that it really matters in the end of the day. He still killed 5 people. In a perfect world it wouldn't matter if it was a "hate crime" or not. He was caught red handed gunning down innocent people. He should have been shot twice in the back of the head the moment the cops showed up but that's not the world we live in.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the guy was probably a nutcase
      but you see, this is the problem.
      It's why defamation is a thing. If you accuse one person of being a child molester most people would just be suspicious or avoid him, but there's going to be some nutcase who decides to do something about it.
      Accusing a whole group of being child molesters has the same effect, on an even larger scale.
      It's why all civilized nations except usa have laws against hate speech.

  73. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    About to get memory holed in 321 that's like this other tranny shooter everyone else said was a right wing Nazi until fucking picture it started coming out of her

    When will the trannies stop shooting up places? This is the second one this year

  74. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Belive <clap_emoji> All <clap_emoji> Enbies.

  75. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    they don't even try to pretend to be acting in good faith.

    pretending to be trans by changing their pronouns is one of the cheapest gotchas the conservatives have been pulling

  76. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Here's his dad
    https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1595519454900805649
    Reminder GOP fascists are ontologically evil etc. etc.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      This man has brain damage and is on meth. Doesn’t even react to hearing news of his kid killing five people.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      I cannot imagine this state of consciousness, life, or existence. I don't really understand how he functions.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      this is so fucked up you can hear the trauma and abuse in that family through this man's deranged mutterings over the homoseckschuals

  77. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    We're in a cold war, act like it already- don't wait for it to be announced because not announcing an official state of ideological conflict is one of the weapons fascists use to control the state of play to win that same ideological conflict. We need to have been forming a resistance for the past few years already, stop complaining and get into action or every one of you forfeits the right to complain about the trajectory of society. If you have the opportunity to learn how to handle a gun, take it- Even if you don't want to own one, it's good to know how to handle one if one were put in your hands in an emergency. If you don't have that opportunity, you can still hand out DIY info like that linked at hrt.today to your local support groups, trans events, etc., find your local tranny anarchist/antifa org and help network the community to better know what numbers and resources we have available to pool together and organise what to do next e.g. organise programs of martial arts classes for trans people. The world we and our parents grew up in is dead & has morphed into something else, a new present and a new future. The longer we lag behind on realising that the stronger the upper hand the people who want to exterminate us gain. Get to work.

  78. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    how is everybody so retarded about this?
    >"they definitely only claimed to be enby after a convo with their lawyer to make it less likely to classify as a hate-crime.
    correct.
    >"this is why self id is bs"
    yes. you're very smart. literally this one radical person negates all of the social good and benefit 90% of this board gets from self id.
    >"people are saying they're not enby? i thought all identities were valid according to gender ideology radicals??"
    youre too immature to partake in any discourse if you see this as a genuine own. you also know that this person is lying.
    >"so the media was lying when they claimed it was a hate crime / religiously motivated / right wing / maga radical etc."
    all of these things can still be true. an enby can still commit a hate crime against queer people even if its mostly antithetical. again, i still dont believe the shooter's identity, but still.
    >"oh, and people said that nobody would ever identify as trans to get an advantage."
    because it shouldnt yield an advantage (theres evidence suggesting they're lying) in this case just as it hasnt in literally every other place.

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