>plays brainlet pentatonic scales
>everyone praises him as the goat
what gives
>plays brainlet pentatonic scales. >everyone praises him as the goat
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>Good looks
literally
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>brainlet pentatonic scales
knowing how to play phyrigian dominant or sweep a C-shape arpeggio doesn't make you a better guitar player than David Gilmour, buddy
>knowing how to play phyrigian dominant or sweep a C-shape arpeggio doesn't make you a better guitar player than David Gilmour, buddy
You're right. Even playing something extremely basic outside pentatonic scales is enough.
Literally this
Plenty of theorycels out there who know every mode in the book getting mogged by people who just play what they want to hear
which scales should he have played instead anon?
some egyptian shit idk
normies don't like egyptian shit. normies like the pentatonic. there's a reason why literally every guitar player that gets mentioned in the "goat" debates by normies is a pentatonic user.
Pentatonic just makes sense on guitar is why, there's an accessibility to it
Locrian
I sure don't but also MUH COMPLEXITY
This. I hate nu-musicians who only aim for technique and ~~*scales*~~, completely removing the soul and discovery from their music. But this all boils to most of these tonedeaf assholes having shitty ears.
Eric Clapton is better but also uses pentatonics
better at babytossing
I think hes one of the best for being musical instead of beating the guitar to death like an autist.
Also hes not really a "pentatonic" player as he regularly uses 4ths and 7ths.
His input and compositions suit the music very well and he plays very cleanly.
the 4th interval is present in the pentatonic scale
fucking retard
how is he a retard?
Meant
Let me be explicit then.
He uses allscale tones regularly
>Also hes not really a "pentatonic" player as he regularly uses 4ths and 7ths.
both the 4th and the 7th are present in the minor pentatonic
don't pretend to think he was talking about minor when we all know that you know he was talking about major
There is no such thing as a major or minor 4th and he didn't use the major 7th, nobody does in rock or blues.
He barely used major pentatonic or even made good use of the blue notes in the blues scale. Purely boring minor pentatonic with decent phrasing and what not given that, but that's hardly difficult. He is the progenitor of boring blues guys along with Crapton and SRV though even those are arguably better. Garcia was an actual good guitarist, even when he did the pentatonic thing (railroad blues, all right mama) he was better at it. Keith Richards was way better at it.
>nobody does in rock or blues
lol what? Every semi-decent pentatonic player uses the major seventh as a blue note between the b7 and the tonic, including the most memed guitarists like Slash or Zakk Wylde
Idk if it's a blue note, more like a chromatic passing note, which any note can be. If you play it as a bend up from the minor 7 it is commonly used, but usually that bend is used as a step to the octave meaning its really more of a passing note. if you play it by itself or linger on it as if it were a normal scale note, it sounds too major. However you can treat the actual blue notes (tritone minor 7 minor/major 3) more like regular scale degrees and linger on those dissonances.
The common modes of rock and blues, even if it's "major blues" are mixolydian, Dorian, which all have the seventh flatted. And a rock song that features a major 7th in the melody will sound very pop/jazz
not on the melody, on the solos
Pretty sure Time has two Major 7s in it, D and A I believe, maybe Db
he bend big note and make animal noise
you can get into some pretty nice sounds with pentatonics, there's more than just playing a single minor pentatonic over the entire progression. you have a lot of options.
Its such a nagger scale and worse is that they think its pentatonic and gatekeep it with their idiocy
maybe pentatonic is used so much because it's the best one
Is that why so much music fucking sucks
>most accessible
FTFY
Incorrect, because accessibility "makes accessible" and that isn't what the pentatonic scale does. It makes the other scales less accessible, because of the idiocy of its gatekeepers, users of the pentatonic scale who are closed minded in their noodlings.
have you ever read something that's just so wrong, you can't even find a way to reply to it? this is it
>being a great guitarist is about having a brain
>and not about having soul
It's about the emotion.
Millions - millions - of people in the world can play the pentatonic scales.
Of those millions, how many people have made the quality of melodies he does on Money, or Time?
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>BTFOs every peabrained box shape monkey "rock god"
>BTFOs every up down up down scale spamming "metal god"
>BTFOs every 11/8 polyrhythmic atonal free jazz "berklee professor"
It's all in the phrasing and note choice, homosexuals.
>playing is about what you play
wow get got a megabrain here, folks
For me, it's the dueling solos in Victory. Every note is literally perfect and neither Mustaine nor Friedman "know how to play" and "have brains" by technical standards.
>neither Mustaine nor Friedman "know how to play" and "have brains" by technical standards
What the actual fuck? Have you actually listened to Friedman's stuff? Have you heard him talk about playing guitar? Just because he doesn't do le epic 16th note palm-muted runs doesn't mean he isn't technical lol.
>what do quotations marks even mean?
ESL...
Quotation marks are irrelevant. There is NO standard or measurement by which Friedman does not "have brains" or "know how to play". Mustaine? Sure. Friedman? Absolutely not. He knows exactly what he is doing and his soloing is textbook perfect. He was in a band with Jason Becker for fuck's sake, the man who is essentially the american Malmsteen, and there is not a single moment listening to Cacophony where you'd ever think "well you can clearly tell Jason studied more than Marty"
Post your native language. Now.
>There is NO standard or measurement by which Friedman does not "have brains" or "know how to play".
Yes, there is. Music school. He admits to being largely self-taught, numbnuts. Friedman is just really fucking talented.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/marty_friedman_talks_being_self-taught_guitarist__what_he_wants_written_on_his_musical_tombstone.html
>He admits to being largely self-taught, numbnuts.
Self-taught does not mean he doesn't know music theory. All it means is that he taught himself how to play guitar. Mustaine is self-taught and knows jackshit about music theory, Friedman is self taught and does know music theory. Watch his instructional video on youtube. Watch his interviews. He thinks and plans every single note he plays.
Oh fuck off you pedantic retard. That isn't even what the post is saying. The quotation marks means those are someone else's words. You're arguing with a post that agrees with you, essentially.
>He thinks and plans every single note he plays.
>t. knows jack shit about 'by ear' musicians
please, PLEASE, read the original quote again:
>Every note is literally perfect and neither Mustaine nor Friedman "know how to play" and "have brains" by technical standards.
this quote implies that there is a "technical standard" by which some group of people (probably guitar teachers and classically trained musicians) judge guitar implies, and that by the "technical standards" of this group of people, neither Mustaine nor Friedman "know how to plain" or "have brains".
What I am arguing is that by every possible standard that a guitar teacher or a classical musician might have, Friedman knows how to play and does have brains. He thinks his solos just like a jazzfag who's read 100 books on music would teach him to think his solos. His technique is obviously trained and he consciously alternates between playing on the beat following regular note groupings (quarter notes, eight notes, etc) and odd note groupings (5, 6, 7 notes per beat). He chooses his scales and arpeggios on a chord by chord basis and plans the end of every phrase in anticipation of the next chord in the progression, and he consciously chooses more or less dissonant intervals from which he hits the chord tones depending on the mood he wants to impart on the melody.
He is a technical, trained player. Mustaine is a loose cannon who just goes ham on the guitar completely by ear. Friedman is a trained guitar player. His phrasing is unorthodox and rare BY DESIGN, not by nature.
That's what I'm getting at. Marty is not the type of guitarist that guy thinks he is.
Still waiting on you to post your native language.
it's impressive how you're trying to imply that i'm bad at interpretation because english is my second language. but it's also embarassing how you've just completely changed the subject because you have no answer to my post, because you know you were wrong
>it's impressive how you're trying to imply that i'm bad at interpretation because english is my second language.
Stop arguing. Stop getting your pride wounded. You fucked up because you're ESL and you think the thing in quotations was literally being asserted as an opinion by the poster. This site being flooded by non-Americans was a mistake.
No I did not think the thing in quotations was an assertion by the post. But the whole quote implies that some people would describe marty friedman as not knowing how to play or not having brains by "technical standards", and that is what I'm debating. No one has ever described Marty Friedman as an "uneducated' guitarist, or as a guitarist"without brains". Absolutely no one. That anon would ascribe the assertions in quotation marks to some mysterious third party means he is either crazy or has a completely different definition of "technical standards" than everyone else.
How can you be worse than me at reading your own language?
>But the whole quote implies that some people would describe marty friedman as not knowing how to play or not having brains by "technical standards"
Then argue with those people, retard. Why are you ESL fucks so thin-skinned? You fucked up. It's ok. The best thing to do in this situation if you want to be respected by native English-speakers is to own it.
lmao
Just to reiterate, no box monkey is ever going to touch this level of composition
Holy autism this must be why megadeth fans are constantly hated on here. You don't need to write an essay against an anon who's basically saying that Dave and Marty are top tier just because he fucks up on semantics. I was thinking the same thing but unlike you i'm not a sperg so I didn't bother saying anything.
>pentatonic
>brainlet
Looks like we got ourselves a "virtuoso"
Yeah, i'm thinking online criticism was a terrible mistake.
The true problem with Gilmour is that damn double bend trick.
Once he found that he put it in every single one of his solos and you CANNOT UNHEAR IT EVER
>hipster uses exotic scale
>you still suck
that's why
i can play any jazz chord and in fingerstyle but i suck at these solo scales and will always be bad at them
>i suck at these solo scales and will always be bad at them
start thinking in terms of intervals and chord tones
if you know that a minor chord is 1 b3 5 (optional b7) and a minor scale is 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 then you know where is dissonance and where is consonance, where is movement and where "rest". get acquainted with the types of intervals in the scales you're learned.
all the rest of it is just making up melodies (practice playing along one single string, then practice making melodies only based on string skipping, then mix it up), stealing licks from other solos, making up your own licks and abusing personal expression through legato, bends and most importantly vibrato.
if you can't do vibrato watch this
getting acquainted with the intervals helps you use legato and bends because then you will KNOW which note you are bending up to or hammering-on to or pulling-off from and doing pre-bends or bends and releases.
the best way to get good at scales is learning scales, and then learning solos from other players, and analysing which scale the player is using in that particular solo and which notes he is hitting and how he is hitting then. Obviously a big part of soloing is just going crazy and playing "from the heart" but the more you think, the better your practice is going to be and the better your improvisation is going to get.
thanks anon ill try
Thanks
brainlet pentatonic scales
still better than any super skilled modern guitar player
his tone and emotional lines you retard
lemme guess you're a big Dream Theatre fan (KEK) sad, very few such cases
they're filthy plebs who should be bowing down to the one true god, Robert Fripp
Remember that this guy diddled kids
that pic is his daughter bro. wtf
Sweet summer child, still full of naive hopes and dreams
Gilmour uses Dorian way more often than minor pentatonic, you fag
He is a great composer, his solos feel like actual parts of the songs and have a very clean sound. He is the kind of guy who knows how to choose the right notes.
He also has a very recognisable style. I remember that one day I was working and I had youtube music on the background. I wasn't paying attention, but at one point I heard a guitar solo and Pink Floyd was the first thing that came to my mind. It was a song from his first solo album.
You could say that statement about every guitar player from the 50s-80s
Also, objectively speaking, scales are just a distance measurement between notes. There's nothing that makes one better than the other and also all other "scales" are just variations of the major or the minor scale.
Plus many cultures play the pentatonic scale from hindu music to nordic folklore and they sound completely different.
Just because you are a brainlet that cant make the pentatonic scale interesting doesnt mean that applies to a god like David Gilmour
>many cultures play the pentatonic scale from hindu music to nordic folklore and they sound completely different.
that's because they're playing different pentatonics. pentatonic means a scale with 5 notes. the western major and minor pentatonics are not the same as the hindu pentatonic scale or the japanese hirajoshi pentatonic scale
Yeah, and gilmour also uses different pentatonic scales. His whole argument is retarded, thinking they are somehow worse than other scales just because they are popular doesnt make any sense.
I like Gilmour AND shredders. Gotta have variety in your life
Uml
favorite gilmour solos?