Realistically, If you understand pre-algebra order of operations (PEMDAS), decimals/fractions, averages/medians, and percentages, then that covers 99% of all real world applications.
And that's like 8th grade level at best.

You're retarded and you should feel bad for posting such nonsense.

>99% covering
The screen you're using requires more engineering knowledge than this. The walls and structures you're sitting in require mechanics, the pipes from where your water is comming from need fluid dynamics and the HVAC, which is keeping your lazy ass comfy, needs thermodynamics. All need Integrals, Sums, differentials... and so on. Numerical Methods are also needed in most cases, since analytical methods fail.

Even before I attended university and just went for an apprenticeship as an industrial electrician, more than what you described was needed. Trigonometrical functions for the simple explanation and measurement of the current in your power outlet. Exponential functions for capacitors. Hell even your thermometer needs at the very least differential equations to be described correctly.

All higher math is very much needed for every day use, at least if you don't want to walk around blind.

Bro, that shit was all invented 300 years ago, we calculated with ratios, triangles for 2k years, even the addition/multiolikation symbols arens omder than 400 years

The guy you are replying to thinks electricity comes from holes in the wall. He takes it for granted that people who DO know all the shit he takes for granted will continue working for his benefit forever.

Just because it's necessary for certain specialized jobs doesn't mean everyone will use it. The vast majority won't ever need to know high level math. That's my point.

cope, people built sewers, aqueducts, wells, municipal drinking water systems, ships, aircraft, internal and external combustion engines, and HVAC systems long before fluid dynamics could be simulated
human intuition is more than sufficient for designing these things, the math is only required to optimize efficiency

that's because humans have "intuition" which is subconsciously understanding patterns communicated via the symbolic layer of existence. fractals are a visualization of this underlying divine order. look into sacred geometry to understand more.

If you actually worked in any of those fields you'd realize nobody actually does that math, they either stick it in a program and get values out or send it off to a firm that sticks it in a program with preset values to test. If anything it's the handful of programmers building these programs who actually use that math. Nobody does integrals, derivatives, fluid dynamics or various strength tests by hand outside their 4 years of adult daycare. Hell, electronics are built with nothing more complex than basic algebra.

numbers are schizo crap in general. there is a tribe of people in the south american jungle somewhere who don't understand numbers and only have words in their language for vague amounts like few, more, a lot...
they also have the same word for hand as for arm because math is for schizos.
needless to say they never evolved past sharpened sticks.

>needless to say they never evolved past sharpened sticks.
Getting educated in math is getting trapped in someone else's schizo land. Real fun when everyone is walking around believing their version of education is the end all be all and that they gatekeep infinite knowledge with their basic understanding of binary systems they think is cemented as absolute fact because they could pass a calculus 2 test of how can you solve these derivatives lolxd study for the whole year or be locked out of existence.

I have a theory that most post-elementary academic math is basically just a humiliation ritual devised by autistic betas to keep Chad running in circles. Not necessarily overt, but one of the never-ending tools of subversion constantly attempted in the beta hivemind. Math is something you just naturally learn, and all this high level academic non-sense is worthless for anyone outside a few niche careers.

>Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application. At least fractals look pretty.
Procedurally generated video games are wildly successful as a result of that high level math with no possible real world application. You're a retard and I hate that I have to share oxygen with you.

>video games
I get what you’re saying and ultimately agree with you, but you posted the definition of not-real world (video games) as an example of real world applications.
Try industrial equipment such as massive shipping cranes. A lot of physics goes into that.

the money Notch made from Minecraft is very much real world.
Yes, video games are simulations, sure - but they still influence the real world. Procedural generation is EVERYWHERE now because of games like Rogue and Nethack.

>the money Notch made from Minecraft is very much real world.
For one, unless Notch was paid in gold/silver or other similar commodity, that is the definition of fake money, even further to my point.
Secondly, you’re missing the point of the other guy’s claim. Video games are a complete waste of time and money and contribute NOTHING other than it makes other people rich (on paper). That’s not the real world. In the real world you can’t just waste away playing video games because you will starve.
Again, I still agree with you, but not cuz muh video games.

>video games
I get what you’re saying and ultimately agree with you, but you posted the definition of not-real world (video games) as an example of real world applications.
Try industrial equipment such as massive shipping cranes. A lot of physics goes into that.

Have either of you made a videogame or a shipping crane?

>Have either of you made a videogame or a shipping crane?
nah was too busy blowing muslims up for israelites when I should have been learning to do those things.
I'm great with bombs though. Disarming them I mean. Yeah, disarming them.

>wow look at my video games and shipping cranes I'm so glad I have these instead of food and homes, god bless israel and her saints ~~*von neumann, feynman, einstien*~~

Haven’t made a crane. But I’m an engineering student current doing my calc2 homework (Picrel) and I’ve taken 3 programming classes. So I understand the need for high math in industry.
I did work at the Port of Houston for 15 months where I was (obviously) around shipping cranes all the time, so that’s the first thing that came to mind.

>wow look at my video games and shipping cranes I'm so glad I have these instead of food and homes, god bless israel and her saints ~~*von neumann, feynman, einstien*~~

You retarded nagger you wouldn’t have all the fucking food you have without shipping cranes.

Most "higher math" is just memorizing trivial knowledge like what symbols mean and what you are supposed to do with certain symbols and patterns.
It's just one big gate-keep, and most normal people would be able do it if they were allowed to know the "secret code"
That's why retarded savants are so good at math...absolutely no common sense or awareness is required, just shove your brain full of trivial knowledge you can instantly recall without purpose.

>most normal people would be able do
I agree. I don’t think math is very hard. It’s attention to detail and knowledge. But many people don’t take the time to learn. That’s the difference between the lazy and not lazy. >if they were allowed to know the "secret code"
Lmfao you just said normal people would be allowed to do it, but now it’s a secret code?? You can learn calculus on YouTube for absolutely free. But you won’t.
Your post is pure copium.

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Anonymous

Yeah but what's the point?
There are more important things to fill my head with.
Also most teachers, especially "free" ones, are absolutely terrible.

>Most "higher math" is just memorizing trivial knowledge like what symbols mean
Poast some examples of "higher math". >It's just one big gate-keep
This might make sense if the books were kept locked in the Vatican or something, but literally anyone can get books or lectures now on libgen for free. There is no one gatekeeping you from this stuff.

>retarded savants are so good at math
You're talking about arithmetic. Not "higher math". There are virtually no "idiot savants" publishing high level math papers, they're just really good a calculating, like a computer. It used to be an interesting ability until machines made it obsolete.

What you're referring to is called "Formalism", as in "the Formalist school of mathematics." Most undergraduate courses past linear algebra are formalist exercises in symbol shifting, but this has to be done in order to give you the vocabulary necessary for applications. I agree that it can be boring, but trends are shifting. For example, this introduction to ring theory/algebraic geometry is excellent and immediately applicable to robotics, computer vision, and so on:

Trying to discuss these concepts without notions like "radical ideal" and "algebra over a ring" is foolish.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

This guy is an associate professor somewhere. Get a job homie

Let's use this as an example.
There are some symbols I recognize, but have no clue what they mean in context.
What dies thr sigma mean?
Why is infinity over it? Why is n = 1 under it?
Why the letter "n"? Just an identifier for 1?
What do the dots between the numbers on top mean?
Why is the "n" excited?
I assume the long line is a fraction which means division...but it might not since this is super special math.
It's asking to identify "a" subscript "n"
What is it even asking for?
What is the entire point of this equation to begin with?

It's notation for a sum over a pattern depending on the positive integers numbers n = 1, 2, 3, ...
The pattern is determined by a_n which is the fraction you see.
The question looks like it's testing whether you know the basic terminology for this notation, rather than asking you a real mathematical question. In general these are called "infinite series" and people have been reasoning about them for centuries at least. The Greeks understood their existence on some level (with Zeno's paradox) but they had no idea how to come to correct conclusions because they lacked algebra.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Don't just give me a generalized answer, I want details as to what each symbol represents.
So it's a fancy way to add together a pattern of numbers.
Why is the pattern determined by a fraction?
Why?
Why?
WHY?
Why can't mathfags ever explain WHY??

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>Why?
Because that's what their professor wanted to ask them about. If you want to know applications, infinite series are used to approximate things that are otherwise impossible to calculate exactly in physics and engineering. The idea is that you can get "close enough" to the real answer by taking a few terms instead of all infinitely many of them.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>Why can't mathfags ever explain WHY??
I just did here

>What dies thr sigma mean
"The sum of -" >Why is infinity over it? Why is n = 1 under it?
"starting value 1, iterate the function by single integers until infinty" >What do the dots between the numbers on top mean?
means multiply >Why is the "n" excited?
fucking kek, it's a factorial. For example 5! = (5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1). In this case, whatever value you input for n, you do the thing I just described >I assume the long line is a fraction which means division
You assume correctly >What is it even asking for? >What is the entire point of this equation to begin with?
The whole thing made into words is "What is the sum of all real integers n, where n is starting from 1 to infinity, of the function f(x), where f(x) is the function of all iterations of all positive integers times nine each iteration, then that number times 9 times the number of iterations divided by the number of iterations."
This would have real application in physics/engineering. The reason it's important is to make reliable machines which must operate sufficiently in many different environments/conditions. Say if this equation represented the amount of stress/weight a steel beam could handle (it's not, but just hear me out) where n represented the amount of kg on it which may be n meters away from its axis, then you know you would need to make a steel beam stronger than what the function represents.

Look, being able to do the sort of problem I just showed you simply proves that you're able to do what would be asked of you as an engineer. No project is going to need you to calculate the stress on a steel beam at infinite weight, but you will be asked to create structures that can handle massive weight. Knowing how to place steel and concrete in a way that holds up this weight force AND uses the least amount of materials is what you'll be asked for. Not to mention temperature, weather, etc. All of these things are physics.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

He doesn't knows there is a gayme going down in the denominator.

>What dies thr sigma mean
"The sum of -" >Why is infinity over it? Why is n = 1 under it?
"starting value 1, iterate the function by single integers until infinty" >What do the dots between the numbers on top mean?
means multiply >Why is the "n" excited?
fucking kek, it's a factorial. For example 5! = (5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1). In this case, whatever value you input for n, you do the thing I just described >I assume the long line is a fraction which means division
You assume correctly >What is it even asking for? >What is the entire point of this equation to begin with?
The whole thing made into words is "What is the sum of all real integers n, where n is starting from 1 to infinity, of the function f(x), where f(x) is the function of all iterations of all positive integers times nine each iteration, then that number times 9 times the number of iterations divided by the number of iterations."
This would have real application in physics/engineering. The reason it's important is to make reliable machines which must operate sufficiently in many different environments/conditions. Say if this equation represented the amount of stress/weight a steel beam could handle (it's not, but just hear me out) where n represented the amount of kg on it which may be n meters away from its axis, then you know you would need to make a steel beam stronger than what the function represents.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Thanks, that's nice and detailed.
How can there be an answer if we are working with infinity though?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

What happens if you walk halfway towards the wall over and over?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

A singularity towards the absolute middle of the room?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

He's saying if you walked halfway across a room, then half the remaining distance, then half, the remaining, distance, then half the remaining distance. If you did this infinity times, you still would not reach the other side of the room. But if you're moving infinity times, shouldn't you reach the other side of the room?
Lets say the distance from me to you is one meter. I move 1/2 meters toward you. I then move 1/4 meters closer. How many meters is that? 1/2 + 1/4 = 3/4 meters. I then move 1/8 meter closer to you, half the currently remaining distance. I have moved 7/8 of a meter to you, but there's still space. If I do this forever, I will be forever moving but never reaching your position.
This is represented by the sum of all real integers "n" from 1 to infinity of the function f(n) = n/n^2, This function will never be zero, but it will get really, really, close.
Does it make sense now?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Yeah that's a good explanation.
Do you think in reality it would really be infinite or would it eventually reach a singularity stopping point at the subatomic scale?
Or is that unanswerable with our current knowledge of reality?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

You're not really asking the right question. I know it's confusing.
First off, you have to have an understand of what a vector is. Let's take north, south, east, and west. If I'm walking 45 degrees to the north-east, I am walking north at the same rate as I am walking east. If I am walking perfectly north (say my "walking direction" is "infinitely north" because it is perfect) then I am walking "zero" east. You can't really measure infinity or zero in reality, because infinity cannot be measured and zero does not exist, literally by definition. Now if I walked at a near-perfect north, so to speak, such that every time I traveled 10,000 meters, it was really 9,999 meters north and one meter east, then we could measure my "easterly travel" vs my "northerly travel", then we could get a vector.
When we talk about infinity, we're talking about dimensions, not real numbers/measurement.
These sorts of concepts can be applied to, say, autopilot on a plane. It must know exactly how to triangulate itself form towers and satellites, then adjust speed/direction accordingly.
With me so far?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Congratulations, pleb, you now understand discrete quantization innately. Of course you reach a stopping point because reality is a step function with countable numbers of atoms as a notion of distance. Floor function!

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>atoms as a spatial axiom
I don't see why not, but I'm sure some physicist nerd will kvetch about how that's wrong.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Those naggers can’t even measure subatomic lengths without uncertainty. My ruler is stable. Theirs fucks up if someone even looks at it!

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>Theirs fucks up if someone even looks at it!
kek physicist israelite btfo. Someone get LULZ and LULZ naggers in here. I wanna see them write and kvetch

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

There is reason to believe that movement smaller than the so-called "planck length" is not physically meaningful. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Planck_length

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

This points to “good ‘nuff” as a legitimate mathematical concept, generally the math speak for this is >for some epsilon greater than zero from the real numbers…

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Lmao exactly what I meant by [...]
I don't think you're wrong, but I couldn't mathematically/scientifically explain why I believe you're right. Just logically, which is good enough for me, but that entirely refutes the point of believing the Planck length is not sufficient to stop searching for more. What a paradox.

A more comprehensible example is the so called Gabriel's Horn. It has infinite surface area but finite volume. Sometimes it's presented as a paradox where you could fill it with a finite amount of paint, which would then have somehow painted infinite area. The solution is the physical reality of paint being made of a finite number of discrete molecules that cannot be "stretch" indefinitely over a surface. Calculus describes continuous idealizations that might not accurately correspond to the facts of the world. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel%27s_horn

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

This is the first I've heard of this. If I'm extrapolating your point correctly, you're saying this thought exercise demonstrates that it is sufficient/acceptable to believe atoms are a plausible spatial axiom?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

It's basically a well established research program known as loop quantum gravity. >As a theory, LQG postulates that the structure of space and time is composed of finite loops woven into an extremely fine fabric or network. These networks of loops are called spin networks. The evolution of a spin network, or spin foam, has a scale above the order of a Planck length, approximately 10−35 meters, and smaller scales are meaningless. Consequently, not just matter, but space itself, prefers an atomic structure. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_quantum_gravity
It's probably more mathematically coherent than string theory but ultimately both theories are too difficult to make concrete predictions with. It's simply too hard to make progress barring some kind of breakthrough.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>barring some kind of breakthrough
That's what I was thinking while reading this. Interesting, thanks!

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Lmao exactly what I meant by

>atoms as a spatial axiom
I don't see why not, but I'm sure some physicist nerd will kvetch about how that's wrong.

I don't think you're wrong, but I couldn't mathematically/scientifically explain why I believe you're right. Just logically, which is good enough for me, but that entirely refutes the point of believing the Planck length is not sufficient to stop searching for more. What a paradox.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Admit it, you only studied this because of Gojo's cursed technique

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Don't even know who you're talking about, anon.
I'm just in uni for engineering and I'm currently taking a break to shitpost.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

In thr manga/anime Jujutsu Kaisen, Gojo's special power is literally what you are describing...his opponents can never touch him because of that infinity concept.
It's completely busted OP

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

The word on the street among physicist niggas is that there is a possibility that space at one point cannot be divided and shortest possible motion that can be done is Planck lenght.
Which may also suggest digital nature of he universe.
I denounce the talmud.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Don't know enough about physics to speculate on that. I do know it doesn't make sense. Just cut it in half lmao

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

They be dilating over time don't believe their bitchass its fucking retarded.

So you admit to shitting in public? How long does it take for the unwiped anus to start itching? How bad do the chairs smell at your call center?

I don't need to wipe buttboy sharty my turd never reaches maximum tolerance limit unlike your micropoo enriched bbc turd.

syntropy is ordo ab chao written into biomimetic mathematical law though! chaotic/nonlinear systems produce order- negentropy cf Ilya Prigogine- islands of stable growth.

similarly, the coming collapse will produce a variety of islands of stability. we will make our own network. personally i draw inspiration from solarpunk visions of the future. how about you?

>Solarpunk
Why not 100 years war?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>How can there be an answer if we are working with infinity though?
So there are things in physics which can realistically work with infinity. Take trigonometry for example. Sine and Cosine of any number will never be more than 1 or less than -1. Sine of 0 = 0, cosine of 0 = 1. And sine/cosine of all real numbers in between negative infinity and infinity will never break this bound. Therefore, if you have anything at all which uses the functions sine or cosine in it's engineering, knowing how infinity or negative infinity applies to your project is important because it sets bounds.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Bu why they be ignoring curvature of earf in prablems related to height, distance and shadows?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

higher math explains why jeets won't poo in the loo

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Atleast my head ain't obsolete spheroid like a muttbaby

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>T. aerodynamically torpedo-headed Chadjeet

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

So you admit to shitting in public? How long does it take for the unwiped anus to start itching? How bad do the chairs smell at your call center?

>Does not know that fractals are on the forefront of applied science
It's even used in economics. Look at stock market, it's a fractal. A fractal measure (called Hurst exponent) can determine if signal is predictable and in case it is you can make bets and make money by buying and selling. But I don't mean (You), cause you're a retarded homosexual

>It's even used in economics. Look at stock market, it's a fractal. A fractal measure (called Hurst exponent) can determine if signal is predictable and in case it is you can make bets and make money by buying and selling. But I don't mean (You), cause you're a retarded homosexual
High Frequency Trading algos

Let me give you the real schizo fractal redpill. First check out the chaos game: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_game >http://www.shodor.org/interactivate/activities/TheChaosGame/
The idea is that there's a way to build fractal patterns with simple random activities like rolling dice. Now check out the double slit experiment: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
A quantum (random) process builds up a well defined pattern over time.

syntropy is ordo ab chao written into biomimetic mathematical law though! chaotic/nonlinear systems produce order- negentropy cf Ilya Prigogine- islands of stable growth.

similarly, the coming collapse will produce a variety of islands of stability. we will make our own network. personally i draw inspiration from solarpunk visions of the future. how about you?

>Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application. At least fractals look pretty.
this
most math past differential equations is make believe bull shit

nagger it's the art work of the creator himself manifesting in this world. Fractals are infinite, God is infinite, you are a piece of him living in his creation suspended between infinity.

They prove a creator. We didn’t invent fractals Or Mandelbrot Set. We only discovered them when we had a computer fast enough to plot and graph the equations.

>They prove a creator.
Lol. Lmao, even >We didn’t invent fractals Or Mandelbrot Set.
But we DID invent the base 10 number system, functions fractions, complex numbers and the logic they follow (which led to fractals), then we invented computers powerful enough to visualize said logic (in the form of the julia and mandelbrot sets)
Just stick to the incompleteness theorems if you want to push your imaginary friend, this is pathetic

I’m very experienced with LSD, was doing it before the Mandelbox and Mandelbulb were discovered, and had already seen those genres of shapes many times in open eye hallucination.

Pro tip: day trip. Why do acid at night when you’re tired and can’t see anything? Do it during the day and when you start to come down shift to beers

Ehh. Have done. Don’t like. Made me feel like I was made of yucky meat. Visuals were too slippery to get a handle on. I didn’t feel like me, and my stomach hurt and I felt like I was in danger of having a bowel issue.

On acid you’re just you, but high, and the world is doing crazy shit, some of it clearly real and not normally perceptually visible, some of it clearly unreal. It’s great.

As for fractals- been looking at those since FRACTINT on my 386 - it’s clear nature is made of them. Look at a topographical map of mountains, look at rivers, lightning, blood vessels in the lungs, clouds, etc

>As for fractals- been looking at those since FRACTINT on my 386
my man
those were the days, letting mandelbrot run overnight to see in the AM
life's simple pleasures

heh reminds me of when i microdosed for.an entire ski season in vail and one day i walked into the skishop i was part time worming in and they changed their carpet over the past two days i was gone on a trip to jackson hole and when i walked through the door 2 hits deep i just kinda stood there for a second. i couldnt looknat anyone all day. just looking past, throigh them at the carpet. people would.keep turning around to see what i was looking at. good times. the acid was so good.in vail
its bullshit where i live now.
as an alcolohic it pissed me off how poorly my beer interacted with my acid
COCAINE HOW EVER
..
THAT WAS THE SHIT

>They prove that the universe is crazy and beyond human understanding
We are the universe, the universe is us. As above, so below. Turtles all the way down.

>this. fractals are really weird because they're just applied mathematical functions that hold real poetic truth

>the money Notch made from Minecraft is very much real world.
For one, unless Notch was paid in gold/silver or other similar commodity, that is the definition of fake money, even further to my point.
Secondly, you’re missing the point of the other guy’s claim. Video games are a complete waste of time and money and contribute NOTHING other than it makes other people rich (on paper). That’s not the real world. In the real world you can’t just waste away playing video games because you will starve.
Again, I still agree with you, but not cuz muh video games.

>For one, unless Notch was paid in gold/silver or other similar commodity, that is the definition of fake money, even further to my point.
Notch is /oneofus/
You think the man doesn't have stacks of au, ag, pd, pt and ir set back? Or guns?
he's got fuck-you money and helped blow a hole in the wall of the woke left back when it was still dangerous as fuck to do so, so the rest of us could rush in.

Okay, but the video game PRODUCED nothing. He got fake many and you can speculate that he bought some PMs, yeah. But he ultimately contributed nothing and got filthy rich off it. That’s a net negative. Do you see my point?

You’re the one who’s mad here. Just making a simple observation that, while you’re ultimately right, your video gaym argument kind of lends itself toward the initial claim that high level math is useless.
I’m just saying video games are useless and a waste of time, energy, resources, and money. There is no need to be upset. Iike I said here

Haven’t made a crane. But I’m an engineering student current doing my calc2 homework (Picrel) and I’ve taken 3 programming classes. So I understand the need for high math in industry.
I did work at the Port of Houston for 15 months where I was (obviously) around shipping cranes all the time, so that’s the first thing that came to mind. [...]
You retarded nagger you wouldn’t have all the fucking food you have without shipping cranes.

I’m an engineering student, so I’m going to be contributing in a real way in real industry very soon. I worked at the Port of Houston for over a year, arguably more productive than 90% of Americans. And before then I was a ZOGBOT in the marine corps, because of which I know you’re gonna kvetch. So I haven’t done nothing.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>worked a basic bitch blue collar job for a year >soldiered for 4
lmao. You're about to be replaced by robots, created with high level math, on both fronts.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Lmao now you’re calling actual producers “blue collar bitches”? Do you care about production or no?
Kek you’re a malding, ineffectual pseud.
Get a real job nagger

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Everybody gangsta until concepts become thangs

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>I’m just saying video games are useless
Do you understand that virtually every single technology deployed in videogames can be deployed elsewhere and that some of the most powerful algorithms and methods have originated in videogame development have been adopted by other industries since?
If you meant to say that excessive consumption of videogames (especially modern ones) is a waste of time, sure. I don't think anyone could disagree with that. But the development and moderate consumption? Nah.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>can be deployed elsewhere >elsewhere
So, NOT video games??? Lmao thanks for proving my point. The only purpose for video games is to get young men (and a negligible amount of young women) to waste their time and potential, and ultimately their lives. And other people get rich along the way.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>So, NOT video games???
Being obnoxiously reductive to "win an argument", great. Let me guess, you are going to tell me that guns are to blame for what and by who they are being used, and that we should discard tools because merchants manage to exploit them for their botched eugenics and social misengineering. Do you own a hammer? Better throw it away. You wouldn't want to risk that someone builds a school with it. Better yet, raze every school to the ground because some merchant may enter and preach globohomo doctrine.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

I have a gun on me with one in the chamber in public right now. The gun is not registered because it doesn’t have to be in my state and I do not have a carry license because I don’t need one in my state.
Can you say the same? Haha sure fucking can’t eurofag

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>one in the chamber >pointed at artery
Why risk killing yourself on draw?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

It’s called a trigger guard anon. Glocks are famously reliable. I am genuinely not worried about it going off for no reason. Have been carrying it this way for five years now.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Dial down the bioluminescence, no matter if professional or vigilante -- it's a disgraceful.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>I wasn't able to accurately psychoanalyze anon >does this mean I'm not as smart as I think I am? >no, anon must be a glownagger
kek cope nogunz homosexual

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

>psychoanalyze
Marvelous feat of passive aggressive turbohomosexualry -- why didn't you reply to me previously?

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

cuz ur mum gay

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

That's a kind of shitposting I thought had gone extinct.

3 weeks ago

Anonymous

Glock butchers everywhere. Never touch sandpaper again.

>planar fractal antennas are sometimes used in consumer electronics
fractals are everywhere
from trees, to roads, to icicles, to galaxies, to fucking broccoli. Nature loves those little niggas.

“Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops. And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image.”

>That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image >despite the fact that we live in and can experience reality
So Buddha really was a pseud huh?

My french mom used to cook snail soup when we were kids. I never even dared to eat it. Doesn't it feel like slurping boogers? I hated kids who ate their boogers.

ever since i was a child i've been preoccupied with the vanishing point ie the point at the middle of the spiral or the end of the mirror tunnel but it was only once i got to be an adult that i realized it's because those are fractals which show hyperdimensional physics and the vanishing point is the doorway to other dimensions

>the vanishing point is the doorway to other dimensions
I once took a picture with my phone screen facing me with my back against a mirror. You get that infinity effect. It's a baffling experience to gaze into infinity. Makes you aware that there is something more that we don't understand.

This. White man saw the little people yet to be normal people and instead of culturing the environment to encourage said little people to grow in an environment where they strengthen themselves, they kill it and have others kill it.

Fractals are only one step away from chaos theory. Chaos theory is used for modelling complex "machines" such as heartbeats and how things like zebras stripes and fingerprints are formed. I think the best you could get from a game out of these branches of math is just some kind of procedural generation.

literally how the universe orders matter in time and space. when you see them its like in the matrix when you are looking at the green numbers on the screen.

Our universe is governed and shaped by plasma. Even the shapes of mountain ranges and ocean ridges are guided by the same principles. This is why you see similar shapes in dissimilar things.

Satellite images, as well as pictures taken by astronauts in orbit, seem to indicate that the Grand Canyon is an enormous Lichtenberg figure, in other words, a gigantic lightning scar. As the Electric Universe hypothesis suggests, electric discharge machining (EDM) might account for the Canyon's appearance: steep walls, thousands of layers, brachiated side canyons at practically every scale, and periodic, hemispherical "nips" cut into each rim.

Our universe is governed and shaped by plasma. Even the shapes of mountain ranges and ocean ridges are guided by the same principles. This is why you see similar shapes in dissimilar things.

I'm fascinated by formations in pic-related. They're all over the world but they only form in a particular way which is identical regardless of which part of the world they are.

Self-referential iterative natural processes are abundant in nature and lead to fractals, although external chaos (wind, water, etc) ruins the perfection of the designs.

Not really
They have some niche applications to certain subjects and are useful when you're trying to understand the properties of certain materials but that's about it

they're good at representing phase changes in systems. eg: that moment when an artery gets just enough buildup on it that it doesn't take long for it to close off completely. eg: the buildup can take a long time, but there's a critical moment when there's not enough room for material to pass through quickly and everything that was passing through now becomes stuck and causes more stuff behind it to get stuck.

A fractal is something where any piece of the pattern contains more of the entire pattern. Cut a branch off a tree and hold it upright. Looks just like the whole tree but smaller. I'm still not convinced that planets and stars aren't particles like electrons and protons spinning around as part of a larger form of matter so large we can't even detect it.

A fractal is something where any piece of the pattern contains more of the entire pattern. Cut a branch off a tree and hold it upright. Looks just like the whole tree but smaller. I'm still not convinced that planets and stars aren't particles like electrons and protons spinning around as part of a larger form of matter so large we can't even detect it.

It cannot be wholly represented. It goes on forever, and it has every combination of numbers possible in it. Just think of someone smacking random numbers on a keypad for 20 years straight. The number they type out will be in pi somewhere.

Meh, fractional dimensions have uses in edge detection. Something like measuring the edge area of a leaf, or the length of a coast. Some new data structures also have fractional dimensions that can help with compression. Some biological applications as well in cutting edge stuff trying to model pharmacokineticks, but not actually all that great use. They didn't really enable any real world applications quite yet, and just by their nature you wouldn't expect them to ever be more convenient than straight empirical methods.

i like the non repeating fractal. cant remember what theyre called. discovered in the last 100 yrs if i recall correctly yet theyre featured in 1000 yr old islamic geometric art. pretty cool regardless

Look at your smartphone. What do you see? A black mirror, anymore? You see yourself. Now turn it on. What do you see and how does it work? Millions of little lights flickering on and off, creating the illusion of as many worlds as you care to visit with your black mirror. Now, turn off your smartphone again. What do you see? The same black mirror and your face. Look up. What do you see? An illusion, created by an infinite sea of eyes, blinking and shifting focus in simultanousely in discord and perfect unison. Who or what do these eyes belong to? To you, it's you, all around you. The words you read right now, the words I typed just then. You are experiencing yourself and are completely oblivious of it.

the universe is the fractal reflection meditation of the mind of God. essentially the world is the expression of mathematics, a kind of poetic music created by the Lord.
the question arises; is human math equivalent to divine math? perhaps.

black holes. the star collapses to infinite density. although spherical the surface is perhaps flat at all points. the matter is crushed and aligned in perhaps in perfect symmetry. a star that has become a perfect fractal entity. what lies at its center? perhaps the singularity like a spherical needle punchers the void at zero dimensionality. the hole is then inverted at this point of infinite density and like a perfect fractal this zero dimenionality perhaps once inverted becomes infinite dimensionality, the birth of a new universe.
this thing exists in our world. every part of the black hole is perfectly flat, crushed to a point and then reflected into its own internal void space.

this is the real black sun. an illogical object that the human mind can not grasp. it defies logic completely, it should not exist. it is a magical object, but it exists perhaps to assist mankind as something to contemplate. there is no beginning or end to the fractal, it just is. now how can any intelligent person deny God, you would be a fool to do so.

i never said it did. im suggesting it creates dimension in a space perhaps not connected to the one that exists outside of it. the picture i attached shows in someway what i mean.

if you look at the picture, the material appears to to fall towards its center from the top of the image. but with a real black hole this action is happening along the entire surface of the star at all points within the event horizon. the star, due to infinite density past the EH begins to act perhaps like a single entity. the material is crushed and fused together, becoming more like a liquid (its probably some new kind of matter or not even matter at all).
the bottom of the image visualizes the reflection into internal void space. internalized dimensionality at this point of singularity. there is no way nor where for this material to ever escape to except into a self created dimension.
our own universe is probably inside such an object, and like a fractal the universe that preceded it is much the same, on and on. fractals all the way down. turtles.

there are other singularities as well. like when a person dies.

Picrel is an accessible book that will show you some basics about dynamical systems and how they sometimes lead to beautiful patterns. I read it in high school. It says that prereqs are calculus and introductory physics, but don't let that turn you away.

come with me and escape this place in which you have imprisoned yourself. you live within the black sun of your own making. you require gnosis, release your mind body and soul. sophia will help you escape and reunite you with the Lord. it is your duty to serve, ashen one.

i've seen that symbol in my dreams
you know the parable of the pearl?

This sort of journey is described in similar terms in other religious traditions. In the Acts of the Apostle Thomas of Gnostic origin, the allegorical Hymn of the Pearl parallels the Sheikh’s story. Thomas narrates the story of an otherworldly Prince who descends from the kingdom of his Father (the heavenly realm) in search of the Pearl. He descends into Egypt, a common metaphor for the material world, and despite his precautions falls into the stupor of those living in the material world. “I forgot that I was a king’s son and served their king. I forgot the Pearl for which my parents had sent me. Through the heaviness of their nourishment I sank into deep slumber” (Jonas 114), the Prince says mournfully. But his heavenly parents sent a message to the bewildered Prince, reminding the Prince of his true nature and of his mission. “I remembered that I was a song of kings, and that my freeborn soul desired its own kind” (114). This parallels the awakening of the spiritual seeker, the Sufi realizing that within him is a Pearl – or the awakening of the archetypal folk hero.
https://avolara.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/393/

He reclaims the pearl and retraces his steps to the heavenly kingdom, exchanging his “filthy and impure garment” for the “robe of glory” (115), his true inheritance. After this journey and struggle, the Prince realizes his true nature: “As I now beheld, it seemed to me suddenly to become a mirror-image of myself… And the image of the King of kings was depicted all over it” (115)

This would be great if it existed but ideas don’t exist therefore body language and voice.
It’s always the wrong choice with whites because it’s a choice instead of actually thinking it through despite wasting time thinking about it.

1 doesn’t turn into 2. Even dissecting a thing renders it a thing which gravity still turns it into a thing.
Why do you struggle with the idea of gravity? Hydraulics and etc already exist in nature, having a substance like metal just lets you make smaller things, in practical application it’s been forcing air into a sludge to make foam paste or kill people.

All of which still relies on Earth’s gravity because it’s just a smaller version of a process that already existed on a large scale.
It’s not a bridging or traveling of things because it’s just a failure, it dies to quick, no stable environment, no self perpetuating process besides the “process that relies on gravity”. Basically an idea, because ideas are free.

i will not be imprisoned. i will vanquish all lesser lights and free all human spirits from bondage. i will return them to their rightful place at the feet of the Lord. i will hold the Lance of Longinus high above me and pierce the heart of Satan with a smile on my face. prepare your anus demons for when i die i am coming. IM GONNA CUM

If you want to make delicate little beautiful thing that can’t survive, then don’t complain when it dies very quickly.
It’s emotional abuse with threat of killing, which people aren’t recognizing. That’s the only problem still, but this Gaza conflict will change that. israelites being white after all.

A point isn’t buddy. There is no finality as long as you’re alive, you hold everybody back in some way or another by “thinking”. Im just trying to correct you.

The mathematics of the mysterious behavior of subatomic particles finds mysterious symmetry with what the visualizations of fractals.

It probably has something to do with the fact that life evolves to create the universe again when it gets old again, and so therefore the mandelbrot set zoom is a kind of microcosm expression of how the universe creates itself.

Math that eats itself like making two mirrors face eachother, creates shapes that feel like microcosm's of life creating the universe which creates life which creates the universe.

Photons bouncing between two mirrors. Mandelbrot set of complex numbers expresses this bounce in infinite variation by saying: "Make me an object of finite size with a hull of infinite length and zero repeats.

Btw this guys work goes into the fallen angel/ blue blood bloodlines of these elites and shows how their Nephilim DNA can't attain bliss like ours can so they have to attain it from blood.

Behind our world is an infinite fractal. When you die you will be stuck flying through one for all eternity.
This world is just a repeating pattern with small variations, patterns within patterns

my body is ready!!!!! i want to enter the titty-verse, the dimension of never ending tits and ass as far as the eye can see forever and ever. TAKE ME THERE IMMEDIATELY!!!

Mandelbrot made fractals relevant with his work in the mid 80s. Today they revolutionized things like cell phone antennas, material science, and modeling software of all kinds. In some more wild areas with the right fractal based math you can literally predict the forest from looking at one tree.
The important take aways from fractals aren't that they're super cool looking or a yet to be fully applied theoretical field. It's that nature mimics self similarity in behavior and outcomes, much like the fractal sets you see do. Basically an ever evolving self similar chain, similar to the last piece of data but slightly different, forever. >If you want to understand nature, understand math first

Just from the way you type, using turbo exponentialozed quadratic harmonic notation derived to linearize parity with the values based on varying undulations of vernacular, your name is either john, tyler, or d

>Do they do anything other than look cool
They are doing....literally everything. Everything is fractal, every DOING is fractal, all of it is just a fractal. There isn't a single concept that exists outside of it, it's all fractal, whatever you can think of is fractal because that's what thinking is, a fractal is what thoughts are.

Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application. At least fractals look pretty.

Ngmi

>retard who barely can add and multiply

lel

https://arxiv.org/list/math.GR/recent

Ngmi

This. Anything above addition and subtraction is schizo crap

Realistically, If you understand pre-algebra order of operations (PEMDAS), decimals/fractions, averages/medians, and percentages, then that covers 99% of all real world applications.

And that's like 8th grade level at best.

You're retarded and you should feel bad for posting such nonsense.

>99% covering

The screen you're using requires more engineering knowledge than this. The walls and structures you're sitting in require mechanics, the pipes from where your water is comming from need fluid dynamics and the HVAC, which is keeping your lazy ass comfy, needs thermodynamics. All need Integrals, Sums, differentials... and so on. Numerical Methods are also needed in most cases, since analytical methods fail.

Even before I attended university and just went for an apprenticeship as an industrial electrician, more than what you described was needed. Trigonometrical functions for the simple explanation and measurement of the current in your power outlet. Exponential functions for capacitors. Hell even your thermometer needs at the very least differential equations to be described correctly.

All higher math is very much needed for every day use, at least if you don't want to walk around blind.

That is higher math, but it's not high math. It's babby-tier math that's probably 300-500 yrs old.

Bro, that shit was all invented 300 years ago, we calculated with ratios, triangles for 2k years, even the addition/multiolikation symbols arens omder than 400 years

The guy you are replying to thinks electricity comes from holes in the wall. He takes it for granted that people who DO know all the shit he takes for granted will continue working for his benefit forever.

Just because it's necessary for certain specialized jobs doesn't mean everyone will use it. The vast majority won't ever need to know high level math. That's my point.

cope, people built sewers, aqueducts, wells, municipal drinking water systems, ships, aircraft, internal and external combustion engines, and HVAC systems long before fluid dynamics could be simulated

human intuition is more than sufficient for designing these things, the math is only required to optimize efficiency

that's because humans have "intuition" which is subconsciously understanding patterns communicated via the symbolic layer of existence. fractals are a visualization of this underlying divine order. look into sacred geometry to understand more.

Germans are so egotistically stupid lmao.

If you actually worked in any of those fields you'd realize nobody actually does that math, they either stick it in a program and get values out or send it off to a firm that sticks it in a program with preset values to test. If anything it's the handful of programmers building these programs who actually use that math. Nobody does integrals, derivatives, fluid dynamics or various strength tests by hand outside their 4 years of adult daycare. Hell, electronics are built with nothing more complex than basic algebra.

Lol. No one does flyid dynamic tests, etc. Mechanics do that shit daily, especially in the hydraulics and oil/gas industries.

This is bullshit.

>integral

>exponential

You are saying these big words but I guarantee you can't explain what they mean, because nobody can.

I use Calculus and Diff Eq all the time.

Matrices and growth/decay functions as well.

Mocking what one doesn’t understand is childish behavior.

All they be asking iz, how high is yo meth, but dey neva be askin how quick is yo meth

Look at this mathlet still believing that subtraction and division are real things

If you don't think calculus is extremely important for civilization to function then you're a retard

We don’t need calculus, it’s math 90 percent of people never use in their lives

Pythagorus has helped me in 2D and 3D in my trade.

No shit does some romanian gipsy like you not find any use for it.

The simplest fractal is the Golden Line.

Do what you will with this information.

>Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application.

fpbp

First post, best post.

I can't tell who the schizos are in this thread anymore

Base and stop doing math pilled

numbers are schizo crap in general. there is a tribe of people in the south american jungle somewhere who don't understand numbers and only have words in their language for vague amounts like few, more, a lot...

they also have the same word for hand as for arm because math is for schizos.

needless to say they never evolved past sharpened sticks.

>needless to say they never evolved past sharpened sticks.

Getting educated in math is getting trapped in someone else's schizo land. Real fun when everyone is walking around believing their version of education is the end all be all and that they gatekeep infinite knowledge with their basic understanding of binary systems they think is cemented as absolute fact because they could pass a calculus 2 test of how can you solve these derivatives lolxd study for the whole year or be locked out of existence.

I have a theory that most post-elementary academic math is basically just a humiliation ritual devised by autistic betas to keep Chad running in circles. Not necessarily overt, but one of the never-ending tools of subversion constantly attempted in the beta hivemind. Math is something you just naturally learn, and all this high level academic non-sense is worthless for anyone outside a few niche careers.

reality itself is inherently schizo so yea

You’re mistaking all the shit people say for all the things that are real.

Holy based, anons

Blacks feel the same way about calculus. israelites feel the same way about morality.

found the midwits

>Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application. At least fractals look pretty.

Procedurally generated video games are wildly successful as a result of that high level math with no possible real world application. You're a retard and I hate that I have to share oxygen with you.

>video games

I get what you’re saying and ultimately agree with you, but you posted the definition of not-real world (video games) as an example of real world applications.

Try industrial equipment such as massive shipping cranes. A lot of physics goes into that.

the money Notch made from Minecraft is very much real world.

Yes, video games are simulations, sure - but they still influence the real world. Procedural generation is EVERYWHERE now because of games like Rogue and Nethack.

>the money Notch made from Minecraft is very much real world.

For one, unless Notch was paid in gold/silver or other similar commodity, that is the definition of fake money, even further to my point.

Secondly, you’re missing the point of the other guy’s claim. Video games are a complete waste of time and money and contribute NOTHING other than it makes other people rich (on paper). That’s not the real world. In the real world you can’t just waste away playing video games because you will starve.

Again, I still agree with you, but not cuz muh video games.

Have either of you made a videogame or a shipping crane?

>Have either of you made a videogame or a shipping crane?

nah was too busy blowing muslims up for israelites when I should have been learning to do those things.

I'm great with bombs though. Disarming them I mean. Yeah, disarming them.

>wow look at my video games and shipping cranes I'm so glad I have these instead of food and homes, god bless israel and her saints ~~*von neumann, feynman, einstien*~~

>I'm so glad I have these instead of food and homes

Have you built a home or grown your own food before?

Poast garden. Poast cabin.

Feynman was one of the good ones.

Haven’t made a crane. But I’m an engineering student current doing my calc2 homework (Picrel) and I’ve taken 3 programming classes. So I understand the need for high math in industry.

I did work at the Port of Houston for 15 months where I was (obviously) around shipping cranes all the time, so that’s the first thing that came to mind.

You retarded nagger you wouldn’t have all the fucking food you have without shipping cranes.

Most "higher math" is just memorizing trivial knowledge like what symbols mean and what you are supposed to do with certain symbols and patterns.

It's just one big gate-keep, and most normal people would be able do it if they were allowed to know the "secret code"

That's why retarded savants are so good at math...absolutely no common sense or awareness is required, just shove your brain full of trivial knowledge you can instantly recall without purpose.

>most normal people would be able do

I agree. I don’t think math is very hard. It’s attention to detail and knowledge. But many people don’t take the time to learn. That’s the difference between the lazy and not lazy.

>if they were allowed to know the "secret code"

Lmfao you just said normal people would be allowed to do it, but now it’s a secret code?? You can learn calculus on YouTube for absolutely free. But you won’t.

Your post is pure copium.

Yeah but what's the point?

There are more important things to fill my head with.

Also most teachers, especially "free" ones, are absolutely terrible.

>Most "higher math" is just memorizing trivial knowledge like what symbols mean

Poast some examples of "higher math".

>It's just one big gate-keep

This might make sense if the books were kept locked in the Vatican or something, but literally anyone can get books or lectures now on libgen for free. There is no one gatekeeping you from this stuff.

>retarded savants are so good at math

You're talking about arithmetic. Not "higher math". There are virtually no "idiot savants" publishing high level math papers, they're just really good a calculating, like a computer. It used to be an interesting ability until machines made it obsolete.

What you're referring to is called "Formalism", as in "the Formalist school of mathematics." Most undergraduate courses past linear algebra are formalist exercises in symbol shifting, but this has to be done in order to give you the vocabulary necessary for applications. I agree that it can be boring, but trends are shifting. For example, this introduction to ring theory/algebraic geometry is excellent and immediately applicable to robotics, computer vision, and so on:

Trying to discuss these concepts without notions like "radical ideal" and "algebra over a ring" is foolish.

This guy is an associate professor somewhere. Get a job homie

If you wanna know why higher meth is retarded af look at any homogeneous society.

Let's use this as an example.

There are some symbols I recognize, but have no clue what they mean in context.

What dies thr sigma mean?

Why is infinity over it? Why is n = 1 under it?

Why the letter "n"? Just an identifier for 1?

What do the dots between the numbers on top mean?

Why is the "n" excited?

I assume the long line is a fraction which means division...but it might not since this is super special math.

It's asking to identify "a" subscript "n"

What is it even asking for?

What is the entire point of this equation to begin with?

It's notation for a sum over a pattern depending on the positive integers numbers n = 1, 2, 3, ...

The pattern is determined by a_n which is the fraction you see.

The question looks like it's testing whether you know the basic terminology for this notation, rather than asking you a real mathematical question. In general these are called "infinite series" and people have been reasoning about them for centuries at least. The Greeks understood their existence on some level (with Zeno's paradox) but they had no idea how to come to correct conclusions because they lacked algebra.

Don't just give me a generalized answer, I want details as to what each symbol represents.

So it's a fancy way to add together a pattern of numbers.

Why is the pattern determined by a fraction?

Why?

Why?

WHY?

Why can't mathfags ever explain WHY??

>Why?

Because that's what their professor wanted to ask them about. If you want to know applications, infinite series are used to approximate things that are otherwise impossible to calculate exactly in physics and engineering. The idea is that you can get "close enough" to the real answer by taking a few terms instead of all infinitely many of them.

>Why can't mathfags ever explain WHY??

I just did here

Look, being able to do the sort of problem I just showed you simply proves that you're able to do what would be asked of you as an engineer. No project is going to need you to calculate the stress on a steel beam at infinite weight, but you will be asked to create structures that can handle massive weight. Knowing how to place steel and concrete in a way that holds up this weight force AND uses the least amount of materials is what you'll be asked for. Not to mention temperature, weather, etc. All of these things are physics.

He doesn't knows there is a gayme going down in the denominator.

>What dies thr sigma mean

"The sum of -"

>Why is infinity over it? Why is n = 1 under it?

"starting value 1, iterate the function by single integers until infinty"

>What do the dots between the numbers on top mean?

means multiply

>Why is the "n" excited?

fucking kek, it's a factorial. For example 5! = (5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1). In this case, whatever value you input for n, you do the thing I just described

>I assume the long line is a fraction which means division

You assume correctly

>What is it even asking for?

>What is the entire point of this equation to begin with?

The whole thing made into words is "What is the sum of all real integers n, where n is starting from 1 to infinity, of the function f(x), where f(x) is the function of all iterations of all positive integers times nine each iteration, then that number times 9 times the number of iterations divided by the number of iterations."

This would have real application in physics/engineering. The reason it's important is to make reliable machines which must operate sufficiently in many different environments/conditions. Say if this equation represented the amount of stress/weight a steel beam could handle (it's not, but just hear me out) where n represented the amount of kg on it which may be n meters away from its axis, then you know you would need to make a steel beam stronger than what the function represents.

Thanks, that's nice and detailed.

How can there be an answer if we are working with infinity though?

What happens if you walk halfway towards the wall over and over?

A singularity towards the absolute middle of the room?

He's saying if you walked halfway across a room, then half the remaining distance, then half, the remaining, distance, then half the remaining distance. If you did this infinity times, you still would not reach the other side of the room. But if you're moving infinity times, shouldn't you reach the other side of the room?

Lets say the distance from me to you is one meter. I move 1/2 meters toward you. I then move 1/4 meters closer. How many meters is that? 1/2 + 1/4 = 3/4 meters. I then move 1/8 meter closer to you, half the currently remaining distance. I have moved 7/8 of a meter to you, but there's still space. If I do this forever, I will be forever moving but never reaching your position.

This is represented by the sum of all real integers "n" from 1 to infinity of the function f(n) = n/n^2, This function will never be zero, but it will get really, really, close.

Does it make sense now?

Yeah that's a good explanation.

Do you think in reality it would really be infinite or would it eventually reach a singularity stopping point at the subatomic scale?

Or is that unanswerable with our current knowledge of reality?

You're not really asking the right question. I know it's confusing.

First off, you have to have an understand of what a vector is. Let's take north, south, east, and west. If I'm walking 45 degrees to the north-east, I am walking north at the same rate as I am walking east. If I am walking perfectly north (say my "walking direction" is "infinitely north" because it is perfect) then I am walking "zero" east. You can't really measure infinity or zero in reality, because infinity cannot be measured and zero does not exist, literally by definition. Now if I walked at a near-perfect north, so to speak, such that every time I traveled 10,000 meters, it was really 9,999 meters north and one meter east, then we could measure my "easterly travel" vs my "northerly travel", then we could get a vector.

When we talk about infinity, we're talking about dimensions, not real numbers/measurement.

These sorts of concepts can be applied to, say, autopilot on a plane. It must know exactly how to triangulate itself form towers and satellites, then adjust speed/direction accordingly.

With me so far?

Congratulations, pleb, you now understand discrete quantization innately. Of course you reach a stopping point because reality is a step function with countable numbers of atoms as a notion of distance. Floor function!

>atoms as a spatial axiom

I don't see why not, but I'm sure some physicist nerd will kvetch about how that's wrong.

Those naggers can’t even measure subatomic lengths without uncertainty. My ruler is stable. Theirs fucks up if someone even looks at it!

>Theirs fucks up if someone even looks at it!

kek physicist israelite btfo. Someone get LULZ and LULZ naggers in here. I wanna see them write and kvetch

There is reason to believe that movement smaller than the so-called "planck length" is not physically meaningful.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Planck_length

This points to “good ‘nuff” as a legitimate mathematical concept, generally the math speak for this is

>for some epsilon greater than zero from the real numbers…

A more comprehensible example is the so called Gabriel's Horn. It has infinite surface area but finite volume. Sometimes it's presented as a paradox where you could fill it with a finite amount of paint, which would then have somehow painted infinite area. The solution is the physical reality of paint being made of a finite number of discrete molecules that cannot be "stretch" indefinitely over a surface. Calculus describes continuous idealizations that might not accurately correspond to the facts of the world.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel%27s_horn

This is the first I've heard of this. If I'm extrapolating your point correctly, you're saying this thought exercise demonstrates that it is sufficient/acceptable to believe atoms are a plausible spatial axiom?

It's basically a well established research program known as loop quantum gravity.

>As a theory, LQG postulates that the structure of space and time is composed of finite loops woven into an extremely fine fabric or network. These networks of loops are called spin networks. The evolution of a spin network, or spin foam, has a scale above the order of a Planck length, approximately 10−35 meters, and smaller scales are meaningless. Consequently, not just matter, but space itself, prefers an atomic structure.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_quantum_gravity

It's probably more mathematically coherent than string theory but ultimately both theories are too difficult to make concrete predictions with. It's simply too hard to make progress barring some kind of breakthrough.

>barring some kind of breakthrough

That's what I was thinking while reading this. Interesting, thanks!

Lmao exactly what I meant by

I don't think you're wrong, but I couldn't mathematically/scientifically explain why I believe you're right. Just logically, which is good enough for me, but that entirely refutes the point of believing the Planck length is not sufficient to stop searching for more. What a paradox.

Admit it, you only studied this because of Gojo's cursed technique

Don't even know who you're talking about, anon.

I'm just in uni for engineering and I'm currently taking a break to shitpost.

In thr manga/anime Jujutsu Kaisen, Gojo's special power is literally what you are describing...his opponents can never touch him because of that infinity concept.

It's completely busted OP

The word on the street among physicist niggas is that there is a possibility that space at one point cannot be divided and shortest possible motion that can be done is Planck lenght.

Which may also suggest digital nature of he universe.

I denounce the talmud.

Don't know enough about physics to speculate on that. I do know it doesn't make sense. Just cut it in half lmao

They be dilating over time don't believe their bitchass its fucking retarded.

I don't need to wipe buttboy sharty my turd never reaches maximum tolerance limit unlike your micropoo enriched bbc turd.

>Solarpunk

Why not 100 years war?

>How can there be an answer if we are working with infinity though?

So there are things in physics which can realistically work with infinity. Take trigonometry for example. Sine and Cosine of any number will never be more than 1 or less than -1. Sine of 0 = 0, cosine of 0 = 1. And sine/cosine of all real numbers in between negative infinity and infinity will never break this bound. Therefore, if you have anything at all which uses the functions sine or cosine in it's engineering, knowing how infinity or negative infinity applies to your project is important because it sets bounds.

Bu why they be ignoring curvature of earf in prablems related to height, distance and shadows?

higher math explains why jeets won't poo in the loo

Atleast my head ain't obsolete spheroid like a muttbaby

>T. aerodynamically torpedo-headed Chadjeet

So you admit to shitting in public? How long does it take for the unwiped anus to start itching? How bad do the chairs smell at your call center?

Shieeettt nigga globetards eternally btfo

>cat shaped sticky note on hand

kill yourself tranny homosexual

>identify a nagger

>(9 naggerS)! OVER naggerS!

Not surprised a gypsy would say something this retarded.

>just schizo nonsense

no

>with no possible real world application

often this is the case

>Does not know that fractals are on the forefront of applied science

It's even used in economics. Look at stock market, it's a fractal. A fractal measure (called Hurst exponent) can determine if signal is predictable and in case it is you can make bets and make money by buying and selling. But I don't mean (You), cause you're a retarded homosexual

>It's even used in economics. Look at stock market, it's a fractal. A fractal measure (called Hurst exponent) can determine if signal is predictable and in case it is you can make bets and make money by buying and selling. But I don't mean (You), cause you're a retarded homosexual

High Frequency Trading algos

>High Frequency Trading algos

AI controls the economy

Facts. Hurt their retard souls. I do shit that they say is impossible often.

Let me give you the real schizo fractal redpill. First check out the chaos game:

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_game

>http://www.shodor.org/interactivate/activities/TheChaosGame/

The idea is that there's a way to build fractal patterns with simple random activities like rolling dice. Now check out the double slit experiment:

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

A quantum (random) process builds up a well defined pattern over time.

nothing is random in this reality

Entropy is not bussin

on god, no cap

syntropy is tho

syntropy buss hard on God

Hell naw

Ordo ab chao deadass

syntropy is ordo ab chao written into biomimetic mathematical law though! chaotic/nonlinear systems produce order- negentropy cf Ilya Prigogine- islands of stable growth.

similarly, the coming collapse will produce a variety of islands of stability. we will make our own network. personally i draw inspiration from solarpunk visions of the future. how about you?

>source: some retarded cigan said so

Correct

>Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application. At least fractals look pretty.

this

most math past differential equations is make believe bull shit

I'm a mathematician and while I enjoy this schizo bullshit, that's all it is. At best it's a good workout for the old noggin

it's a substitute for rendering and resolution

Ted K said at the higher levels Mathematics is art rather than science.

naggers

niggrt

Literally looks like soap foam floating over water, it creates the same patterns

If the pattern is just big bubble by smaller bubble by smaller bubble sure

nagger it's the art work of the creator himself manifesting in this world. Fractals are infinite, God is infinite, you are a piece of him living in his creation suspended between infinity.

>in

2 mirrors facing each other

Underrated get

Yes, iterated functions are everywhere in nature

>iterated functions

This is how DNA stores information, for instance. It's all a recursive fractal that we barely understand.

They prove a creator. We didn’t invent fractals Or Mandelbrot Set. We only discovered them when we had a computer fast enough to plot and graph the equations.

>They prove a creator.

Lol. Lmao, even

>We didn’t invent fractals Or Mandelbrot Set.

But we DID invent the base 10 number system, functions fractions, complex numbers and the logic they follow (which led to fractals), then we invented computers powerful enough to visualize said logic (in the form of the julia and mandelbrot sets)

Just stick to the incompleteness theorems if you want to push your imaginary friend, this is pathetic

>dumbass homosexual

we also invented the fractals that are witnessed on psychedelics that can be replicated on a computer with a mathematical equation.

>we invented fingers to count on

Does NOT prove a"creator". Fuckin israelite zombie.

How does it prove a creator, anon?

take LSD and then look at them

I’m very experienced with LSD, was doing it before the Mandelbox and Mandelbulb were discovered, and had already seen those genres of shapes many times in open eye hallucination.

Pro tip: day trip. Why do acid at night when you’re tired and can’t see anything? Do it during the day and when you start to come down shift to beers

How familiar are you with mushrooms?

Ehh. Have done. Don’t like. Made me feel like I was made of yucky meat. Visuals were too slippery to get a handle on. I didn’t feel like me, and my stomach hurt and I felt like I was in danger of having a bowel issue.

On acid you’re just you, but high, and the world is doing crazy shit, some of it clearly real and not normally perceptually visible, some of it clearly unreal. It’s great.

As for fractals- been looking at those since FRACTINT on my 386 - it’s clear nature is made of them. Look at a topographical map of mountains, look at rivers, lightning, blood vessels in the lungs, clouds, etc

I love to buy one of these and then drop some LSD and just stare at it for hours.

Perhaps with a powerful enough 3D printer you can!

>As for fractals- been looking at those since FRACTINT on my 386

my man

those were the days, letting mandelbrot run overnight to see in the AM

life's simple pleasures

If you're that old: Did you also watch 2001: space odyssey a couple of times for the ending scene effects? Maybe together with LSD?

heh reminds me of when i microdosed for.an entire ski season in vail and one day i walked into the skishop i was part time worming in and they changed their carpet over the past two days i was gone on a trip to jackson hole and when i walked through the door 2 hits deep i just kinda stood there for a second. i couldnt looknat anyone all day. just looking past, throigh them at the carpet. people would.keep turning around to see what i was looking at. good times. the acid was so good.in vail

its bullshit where i live now.

as an alcolohic it pissed me off how poorly my beer interacted with my acid

COCAINE HOW EVER

..

THAT WAS THE SHIT

self sustaining pillars of existence that have no beginning or end so. yes they're useful.

They prove that the universe is crazy and beyond human understanding.

>They prove that the universe is crazy and beyond human understanding

We are the universe, the universe is us. As above, so below. Turtles all the way down.

Your world is a fractal

"What holds true at small, holds true at large."

>"What holds true at small, holds true at large."

as above, so below.

Kybalion

I imagine, drown beyond the lines of reason

Push the envelope, watch it bend

this. fractals are really weird because they're just applied mathematical functions that hold real poetic truth

>this. fractals are really weird because they're just applied mathematical functions that hold real poetic truth

>For one, unless Notch was paid in gold/silver or other similar commodity, that is the definition of fake money, even further to my point.

Notch is /oneofus/

You think the man doesn't have stacks of au, ag, pd, pt and ir set back? Or guns?

he's got fuck-you money and helped blow a hole in the wall of the woke left back when it was still dangerous as fuck to do so, so the rest of us could rush in.

Okay, but the video game PRODUCED nothing. He got fake many and you can speculate that he bought some PMs, yeah. But he ultimately contributed nothing and got filthy rich off it. That’s a net negative. Do you see my point?

nagger what have YOU contributed since your asshole is twisted up in knots so tight over this?

Go ahead, post your contributions.

You’re the one who’s mad here. Just making a simple observation that, while you’re ultimately right, your video gaym argument kind of lends itself toward the initial claim that high level math is useless.

I’m just saying video games are useless and a waste of time, energy, resources, and money. There is no need to be upset. Iike I said here

I’m an engineering student, so I’m going to be contributing in a real way in real industry very soon. I worked at the Port of Houston for over a year, arguably more productive than 90% of Americans. And before then I was a ZOGBOT in the marine corps, because of which I know you’re gonna kvetch. So I haven’t done nothing.

>worked a basic bitch blue collar job for a year

>soldiered for 4

lmao. You're about to be replaced by robots, created with high level math, on both fronts.

Lmao now you’re calling actual producers “blue collar bitches”? Do you care about production or no?

Kek you’re a malding, ineffectual pseud.

Get a real job nagger

Everybody gangsta until concepts become thangs

>I’m just saying video games are useless

Do you understand that virtually every single technology deployed in videogames can be deployed elsewhere and that some of the most powerful algorithms and methods have originated in videogame development have been adopted by other industries since?

If you meant to say that excessive consumption of videogames (especially modern ones) is a waste of time, sure. I don't think anyone could disagree with that. But the development and moderate consumption? Nah.

>can be deployed elsewhere

>elsewhere

So, NOT video games??? Lmao thanks for proving my point. The only purpose for video games is to get young men (and a negligible amount of young women) to waste their time and potential, and ultimately their lives. And other people get rich along the way.

>So, NOT video games???

Being obnoxiously reductive to "win an argument", great. Let me guess, you are going to tell me that guns are to blame for what and by who they are being used, and that we should discard tools because merchants manage to exploit them for their botched eugenics and social misengineering. Do you own a hammer? Better throw it away. You wouldn't want to risk that someone builds a school with it. Better yet, raze every school to the ground because some merchant may enter and preach globohomo doctrine.

I have a gun on me with one in the chamber in public right now. The gun is not registered because it doesn’t have to be in my state and I do not have a carry license because I don’t need one in my state.

Can you say the same? Haha sure fucking can’t eurofag

>one in the chamber

>pointed at artery

Why risk killing yourself on draw?

It’s called a trigger guard anon. Glocks are famously reliable. I am genuinely not worried about it going off for no reason. Have been carrying it this way for five years now.

Dial down the bioluminescence, no matter if professional or vigilante -- it's a disgraceful.

>I wasn't able to accurately psychoanalyze anon

>does this mean I'm not as smart as I think I am?

>no, anon must be a glownagger

kek cope nogunz homosexual

>psychoanalyze

Marvelous feat of passive aggressive turbohomosexualry -- why didn't you reply to me previously?

cuz ur mum gay

That's a kind of shitposting I thought had gone extinct.

Glock butchers everywhere. Never touch sandpaper again.

As above, so below. Noob

The universe is fractal, you can make your own internal universes and then learn how better to serve and be served by this universe's good/god

Wtf? Schlomo schizo?

planar fractal antennas are sometimes used in consumer electronics

>planar fractal antennas are sometimes used in consumer electronics

fractals are everywhere

from trees, to roads, to icicles, to galaxies, to fucking broccoli. Nature loves those little niggas.

They glimpse into the hidden world.

“Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops. And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image.”

That's beautiful. Thanks for the quote.

Indra's Net

>That is the Buddhist conception of the universe in an image

>despite the fact that we live in and can experience reality

So Buddha really was a pseud huh?

Based Alan Watts enjoyer.

shut up, racist

Snails are pretty cute if I'm being honest with you guys.

And tasty.

My french mom used to cook snail soup when we were kids. I never even dared to eat it. Doesn't it feel like slurping boogers? I hated kids who ate their boogers.

I agree. These ones look like cartoon dogs to me.

Get a snail. They're easy to keep.

They're free at your local pond, too.

ever since i was a child i've been preoccupied with the vanishing point ie the point at the middle of the spiral or the end of the mirror tunnel but it was only once i got to be an adult that i realized it's because those are fractals which show hyperdimensional physics and the vanishing point is the doorway to other dimensions

also, cute snails, ty for pic

>the vanishing point is the doorway to other dimensions

I once took a picture with my phone screen facing me with my back against a mirror. You get that infinity effect. It's a baffling experience to gaze into infinity. Makes you aware that there is something more that we don't understand.

This. White man saw the little people yet to be normal people and instead of culturing the environment to encourage said little people to grow in an environment where they strengthen themselves, they kill it and have others kill it.

they illustrate the infinite complexity of generative mathematical equations/functions and reflect what reality must somewhat be like

Self similar relating patterns: memes.

Fractals are only one step away from chaos theory. Chaos theory is used for modelling complex "machines" such as heartbeats and how things like zebras stripes and fingerprints are formed. I think the best you could get from a game out of these branches of math is just some kind of procedural generation.

literally how the universe orders matter in time and space. when you see them its like in the matrix when you are looking at the green numbers on the screen.

tornado debris vs tonga

Our universe is governed and shaped by plasma. Even the shapes of mountain ranges and ocean ridges are guided by the same principles. This is why you see similar shapes in dissimilar things.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080929grandcanyon.htm

Satellite images, as well as pictures taken by astronauts in orbit, seem to indicate that the Grand Canyon is an enormous Lichtenberg figure, in other words, a gigantic lightning scar. As the Electric Universe hypothesis suggests, electric discharge machining (EDM) might account for the Canyon's appearance: steep walls, thousands of layers, brachiated side canyons at practically every scale, and periodic, hemispherical "nips" cut into each rim.

Energy/Information pathway.

>Edm

Why not underwater plasma machining? Edm requires strong dielectric.

I'm fascinated by formations in pic-related. They're all over the world but they only form in a particular way which is identical regardless of which part of the world they are.

Self-referential iterative natural processes are abundant in nature and lead to fractals, although external chaos (wind, water, etc) ruins the perfection of the designs.

shit threadstart

fixed

>Most high level math is just schizo nonsense with no possible real world application.

With the singular exception of

uhhhhh

y'know

WWIII

Fractals is the only way to understand the universe and your place in it. It is humbling.

ask "/x/ - Gay Bullshit"

This is "/misc/ - Political shill threads"

Nature is very cool

they are sentient information vectors

anything analog has fractalic nature

The fundamental structure of reality is fractal

>tfw it's been over 10 years since I last took lsd

damn I really need to trip again

3*1 = 3

3*2 = 6

3*3 = 9

3*4 = 12 = 1+2 = 3

3*5 = 15 = 1+5 = 6

3*6 = 18 = 1+8 = 9

3*7 = 21 = 2+1 = 3

3*8 = 24 = 2+4 = 6

3*9 = 27 = 2+7 = 9

3*10 = 30 = 3+0 = 3

6*1 = 6

6*2 = 12 = 1+2 = 3

6*3 = 18 = 1+8 = 9

6*4 = 24 = 2+4 = 6

6*5 = 30 = 3+0 = 3

6*6 = 36 = 3+6 = 9

6*7 = 42 = 4+2 = 6

6*8 = 48 = 4+8 = 12 = 1+2 = 3

6*9 = 54 = 5+4 = 9

6*10 = 60 = 6+0 = 6

9*1 = 9

9*2 = 18 = 1+8 = 9

9*3 = 27 = 2+7 = 9

9*4 = 36 = 3+6 = 9

9*5 = 45 = 4+5 = 9

9*6 = 54 = 5+4 = 9

9*7 = 63 = 6+3 = 9

9*8 = 72 = 7+2 = 9

9*9 = 81 = 8+1 = 9

9*10 = 90 = 9+0 = 9

Spooky

3 = Trinity

3

Trinity of what?

>3-6-9

>damn you fine

>sock it to me one more time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set

Not really

They have some niche applications to certain subjects and are useful when you're trying to understand the properties of certain materials but that's about it

they're good at representing phase changes in systems. eg: that moment when an artery gets just enough buildup on it that it doesn't take long for it to close off completely. eg: the buildup can take a long time, but there's a critical moment when there's not enough room for material to pass through quickly and everything that was passing through now becomes stuck and causes more stuff behind it to get stuck.

Arterial implants are based on similar concept.

Universe is not uniform.

Neither is any matter we can detect from out perspective.

I have observed onion tissue cells and they were uniform.

A fractal is something where any piece of the pattern contains more of the entire pattern. Cut a branch off a tree and hold it upright. Looks just like the whole tree but smaller. I'm still not convinced that planets and stars aren't particles like electrons and protons spinning around as part of a larger form of matter so large we can't even detect it.

Pi is an irrational fractal

Care to elaborate?

It cannot be wholly represented. It goes on forever, and it has every combination of numbers possible in it. Just think of someone smacking random numbers on a keypad for 20 years straight. The number they type out will be in pi somewhere.

You're livin in one mate

It is a useful measurement of self-similarity are various scales.

E.g. The length of England's shoreline depends on the length of your ruler.

https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

beautiful. Marko Rodin explained that to me and vortex mathematics is all that matters and we have bairley even touched on it yet

Isn't this a simplified toroid? Do you see the toroid in your gif?

it is the math that makes it

beautiful.

That's the enneagram. All of mankind's personalities are contained within it.

Meh, fractional dimensions have uses in edge detection. Something like measuring the edge area of a leaf, or the length of a coast. Some new data structures also have fractional dimensions that can help with compression. Some biological applications as well in cutting edge stuff trying to model pharmacokineticks, but not actually all that great use. They didn't really enable any real world applications quite yet, and just by their nature you wouldn't expect them to ever be more convenient than straight empirical methods.

i like the non repeating fractal. cant remember what theyre called. discovered in the last 100 yrs if i recall correctly yet theyre featured in 1000 yr old islamic geometric art. pretty cool regardless

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_beyond_the_Standard_Model

take a peek at all the types of math that we've just barely touched on enough to experimentally verify but not enough to truly understand

it's really amazing how far our understanding goes and how rarely normal people are exposed to any of this level of thought

most people have no idea that we have this type of understanding...that we are laying bare some of the mysteries of the universe

yeah, you can use them to describe and simulate what we observe in nature a lot.

https://www.treehugger.com/amazing-fractals-found-in-nature-4868776

Look at your smartphone. What do you see? A black mirror, anymore? You see yourself. Now turn it on. What do you see and how does it work? Millions of little lights flickering on and off, creating the illusion of as many worlds as you care to visit with your black mirror. Now, turn off your smartphone again. What do you see? The same black mirror and your face. Look up. What do you see? An illusion, created by an infinite sea of eyes, blinking and shifting focus in simultanousely in discord and perfect unison. Who or what do these eyes belong to? To you, it's you, all around you. The words you read right now, the words I typed just then. You are experiencing yourself and are completely oblivious of it.

the universe is the fractal reflection meditation of the mind of God. essentially the world is the expression of mathematics, a kind of poetic music created by the Lord.

the question arises; is human math equivalent to divine math? perhaps.

black holes. the star collapses to infinite density. although spherical the surface is perhaps flat at all points. the matter is crushed and aligned in perhaps in perfect symmetry. a star that has become a perfect fractal entity. what lies at its center? perhaps the singularity like a spherical needle punchers the void at zero dimensionality. the hole is then inverted at this point of infinite density and like a perfect fractal this zero dimenionality perhaps once inverted becomes infinite dimensionality, the birth of a new universe.

this thing exists in our world. every part of the black hole is perfectly flat, crushed to a point and then reflected into its own internal void space.

this is the real black sun. an illogical object that the human mind can not grasp. it defies logic completely, it should not exist. it is a magical object, but it exists perhaps to assist mankind as something to contemplate. there is no beginning or end to the fractal, it just is. now how can any intelligent person deny God, you would be a fool to do so.

you're just talking gobbledeasiatic

a black hole doesn't erase dimensions. you can read about real math describing this stuff, and effort to understand it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_beyond_the_Standard_Model

i never said it did. im suggesting it creates dimension in a space perhaps not connected to the one that exists outside of it. the picture i attached shows in someway what i mean.

if you look at the picture, the material appears to to fall towards its center from the top of the image. but with a real black hole this action is happening along the entire surface of the star at all points within the event horizon. the star, due to infinite density past the EH begins to act perhaps like a single entity. the material is crushed and fused together, becoming more like a liquid (its probably some new kind of matter or not even matter at all).

the bottom of the image visualizes the reflection into internal void space. internalized dimensionality at this point of singularity. there is no way nor where for this material to ever escape to except into a self created dimension.

our own universe is probably inside such an object, and like a fractal the universe that preceded it is much the same, on and on. fractals all the way down. turtles.

there are other singularities as well. like when a person dies.

>tfw no voidspace gf

why even exist

https://www.amazon.com/Nonlinear-Dynamics-Chaos-Applications-Nonlinearity/dp/0738204536

Picrel is an accessible book that will show you some basics about dynamical systems and how they sometimes lead to beautiful patterns. I read it in high school. It says that prereqs are calculus and introductory physics, but don't let that turn you away.

come with me and escape this place in which you have imprisoned yourself. you live within the black sun of your own making. you require gnosis, release your mind body and soul. sophia will help you escape and reunite you with the Lord. it is your duty to serve, ashen one.

i've seen that symbol in my dreams

you know the parable of the pearl?

This sort of journey is described in similar terms in other religious traditions. In the Acts of the Apostle Thomas of Gnostic origin, the allegorical Hymn of the Pearl parallels the Sheikh’s story. Thomas narrates the story of an otherworldly Prince who descends from the kingdom of his Father (the heavenly realm) in search of the Pearl. He descends into Egypt, a common metaphor for the material world, and despite his precautions falls into the stupor of those living in the material world. “I forgot that I was a king’s son and served their king. I forgot the Pearl for which my parents had sent me. Through the heaviness of their nourishment I sank into deep slumber” (Jonas 114), the Prince says mournfully. But his heavenly parents sent a message to the bewildered Prince, reminding the Prince of his true nature and of his mission. “I remembered that I was a song of kings, and that my freeborn soul desired its own kind” (114). This parallels the awakening of the spiritual seeker, the Sufi realizing that within him is a Pearl – or the awakening of the archetypal folk hero.

https://avolara.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/393/

He reclaims the pearl and retraces his steps to the heavenly kingdom, exchanging his “filthy and impure garment” for the “robe of glory” (115), his true inheritance. After this journey and struggle, the Prince realizes his true nature: “As I now beheld, it seemed to me suddenly to become a mirror-image of myself… And the image of the King of kings was depicted all over it” (115)

perhaps i know. The Hylmn of The Pearl. I like that.

that pic is trypophobia

Aren't fractals basic outcomes of set theory ecuations?

they dont think it be like it is but it do

i am that i am.

nothing that is, is not of me. eat of my flesh

This would be great if it existed but ideas don’t exist therefore body language and voice.

It’s always the wrong choice with whites because it’s a choice instead of actually thinking it through despite wasting time thinking about it.

what if light itself is like a thought within the mind of the Lord.

in the beginning was the word.

what is super-position and how can i use it to make anime real?

when you are ready, you wont have to.

1 doesn’t turn into 2. Even dissecting a thing renders it a thing which gravity still turns it into a thing.

Why do you struggle with the idea of gravity? Hydraulics and etc already exist in nature, having a substance like metal just lets you make smaller things, in practical application it’s been forcing air into a sludge to make foam paste or kill people.

All of which still relies on Earth’s gravity because it’s just a smaller version of a process that already existed on a large scale.

It’s not a bridging or traveling of things because it’s just a failure, it dies to quick, no stable environment, no self perpetuating process besides the “process that relies on gravity”. Basically an idea, because ideas are free.

where were you when you realized you are an electrical storm cloud that exists with the alchemical fabric of the alchemists crucible.

i will not be imprisoned. i will vanquish all lesser lights and free all human spirits from bondage. i will return them to their rightful place at the feet of the Lord. i will hold the Lance of Longinus high above me and pierce the heart of Satan with a smile on my face. prepare your anus demons for when i die i am coming. IM GONNA CUM

Again. It’s an idea.

To fully outline its emotional abuse of a human in order to survive.

reveal yourself.

If you want to make delicate little beautiful thing that can’t survive, then don’t complain when it dies very quickly.

It’s emotional abuse with threat of killing, which people aren’t recognizing. That’s the only problem still, but this Gaza conflict will change that. israelites being white after all.

what point are you trying to get across exactly? you converse like a bot.

A point isn’t buddy. There is no finality as long as you’re alive, you hold everybody back in some way or another by “thinking”. Im just trying to correct you.

what did i say that upset you? teach then if you have something to teach. show me

I think you should patiently wait around you die or just outright kill yourself. The world has no need for people who don’t listen to it.

thats harsh and you assume i dont listen or have not at least tried to listen? i tried my best. you make great assumptions about me

are you a demon?

The mathematics of the mysterious behavior of subatomic particles finds mysterious symmetry with what the visualizations of fractals.

It probably has something to do with the fact that life evolves to create the universe again when it gets old again, and so therefore the mandelbrot set zoom is a kind of microcosm expression of how the universe creates itself.

Math that eats itself like making two mirrors face eachother, creates shapes that feel like microcosm's of life creating the universe which creates life which creates the universe.

Photons bouncing between two mirrors. Mandelbrot set of complex numbers expresses this bounce in infinite variation by saying: "Make me an object of finite size with a hull of infinite length and zero repeats.

Oh so it’s mirrors that drove you insane.

“It’s like water but it’s not”

This is what that picture meant to convey huh, the natives and pilgrims.

It’s because Light is the Sun Kachina hopis tried visually showing everybody.

See Dan Winters work at GoldenMean.info on self-similar growth, ie fractals.

https://goldenmean.info/

Btw this guys work goes into the fallen angel/ blue blood bloodlines of these elites and shows how their Nephilim DNA can't attain bliss like ours can so they have to attain it from blood.

>>>/x/

Fractal is that homosexual who posts daily "HAPPENING! HAPPENING!" with the webm of autistic Natalie Portman, but in reality it's nothing.

Its turtles all the way down man.

This is a certified glownagger. You heard it here first.

Behind our world is an infinite fractal. When you die you will be stuck flying through one for all eternity.

This world is just a repeating pattern with small variations, patterns within patterns

None of you are correct

control

lel I've been in this thread doing completely innocuous shit, and you come in here spamming about muh matrix muh flat erf

Yes nagger quasi crystals and other applications

No

The loki series was actually pretty good.

they fill space

Building blocks of dimensional stability in geometric construction.

it's just how the world is rendered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-similarity

>hurrrr durrrr it looks cool

Ummmm it’s the very formula for life

my body is ready!!!!! i want to enter the titty-verse, the dimension of never ending tits and ass as far as the eye can see forever and ever. TAKE ME THERE IMMEDIATELY!!!

>he doesn't know

>he has not been to the place that is seen without eyes, and heard without ears

yes he has! take me to the titty-verse where the jugs are heavy and the butts are pretty!

titty-verse titty-verse titty-verse !!

>what it feels like to wake up in the titty verse

ye

Mandelbrot made fractals relevant with his work in the mid 80s. Today they revolutionized things like cell phone antennas, material science, and modeling software of all kinds. In some more wild areas with the right fractal based math you can literally predict the forest from looking at one tree.

The important take aways from fractals aren't that they're super cool looking or a yet to be fully applied theoretical field. It's that nature mimics self similarity in behavior and outcomes, much like the fractal sets you see do. Basically an ever evolving self similar chain, similar to the last piece of data but slightly different, forever.

>If you want to understand nature, understand math first

Just from the way you type, using turbo exponentialozed quadratic harmonic notation derived to linearize parity with the values based on varying undulations of vernacular, your name is either john, tyler, or d

That's an odd and terribly inaccurate thing to say.

tyler confirmed

>Do they do anything other than look cool

They are doing....literally everything. Everything is fractal, every DOING is fractal, all of it is just a fractal. There isn't a single concept that exists outside of it, it's all fractal, whatever you can think of is fractal because that's what thinking is, a fractal is what thoughts are.

we have the technology to recreate you like a clone using fractal informatic lensing simply by taking a photo of your chocolate starfish

Dialectics

https://hegel-system.de/de/#tri3

>when you accidentally start to synthesize research chemicals endogenously

good phone antennas