>pays $100+ for a device that devs can rug any minute with a firmware update instead of using a $5 USB drive

>pays $100+ for a device that devs can rug any minute with a firmware update instead of using a $5 USB drive

Just lmao

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    what do you put on the usb that replaces the functionality of a ledger

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Literally in the pic

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        but it wipes the data everytime you start it up
        how?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You can create an encrypted persistence volume on the drive and decrypt it with a pass phrase on booting

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >persistence volume
            ngmi newfag. put tails down. u talk like u want security but no you're a moronic homosexual.

            but it wipes the data everytime you start it up
            how?

            use it to create seed. write seed down. never use persistent storage

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Meh fag I mean the luks encryption isn’t really crackable in any reasonable timeframe plus you can always use hidden volumes for plausible deniability. You have to store the seed somewhere physical regardless.

              To your point persistence is the opposite of ephemeral which is the whole point of even using tails in the first place. Overall , it’s a wash. I’d probably use tails as a stand-alone and just have a separate data USB disk that’s encrypted for separation from tails itself. I don’t like writing shit down though and any safe under 30k can be cut into by a Mexican locksmith wiith basic tools

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The encrypted storage is as much a security flaw as the piece of paper you wrote your sneed down on.
              Only characters that rolled high for will and have memorized their sneedphrases are truly safe.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                there are several ways to stop pic related from working.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >use it to create seed. write seed down. never use persistent storage
              You don't need tails to do this. You can do this with literally any is as long as its offline before you create the seed.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >as long as it's offline before you create the seed
                And, in the event of you using a compromised device offline, it should be destroyed before it can ever be brought online again.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that is correct.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              nothing wrong with using an encrypted partition to store bookmarks and password database. it'd be annoying to browse otherwise

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              as an officer said to me once
              "linux encryption is case closed"

              your glowie fud has no power here

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              paper is persistent storage

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You have an airgap between your ears

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    TLDR: state threat model and risk appetite prior to hashing these things out

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >wallet on linux vs hardware wallet thread
    Here comes the opsec midwits.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Hey belingcat incompetent glow nagger slaves

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't matter what OS you use PCs have backdoors anyway, I assume coreboot and libreboot aren't as safe as people think.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Only CPUs built after 2008 were installed with IME firmware. Regardless, it can be removed.
      https://libreboot.org/freedom-status.html#more-about-intel-me-removaldisabling
      Your doomposting makes you glow.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Can you prove that it has completely been removed? Also I'm not a glowie, just trying to get to a point where I'm the weakest link in my network.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You can prove that the IME as we currently understand it has been removed, yes. We can't prove there are no other backdoors present, but on balance of probability if you have a pre-IME CPU running checksum'd open source software you're fine.
          A post-2008 with neutered or removed IME is increasingly less fine the newer the CPU model, as a newer CPU is more likely to be hiding backdoors than older CPUs.
          As other anons have said, the definition of 'fine' hinges entirely on your threat model, but in my subjective opinion librebooting things no newer than 2017 is fine.
          >just trying to get to a point where I'm the weakest link in my network.
          Then get yourself an old IBM thinkpad, keep it offline, coreboot it and run tails for offline wallet generation. That's your cold wallet.
          Do all your trading etc with hotwallets, and ensure your hotwallets never exceed a certain value. Send all excess to the cold wallet. Never move cold wallet funds unless you have to, securely generate a new offline cold wallet whenever you send a transaction from your cold wallet.
          This is the way.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Cheers mate for the info.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >just make your own cpu and code your own programming language

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why do the jpmason slaves not understand how to use greentext?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        If you say so

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Most people who attempt something like this will fuck it up and lose their shit anyway.
    There's a reason easy sells.

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Just use a hot wallet instead of a cold wallet
    why are midwits like this? There is only one superior setup to hardware wallets and that's an old airgapped pc without a network chip.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No. The most secure is a paper wallet rolled with a 100 sided dice. But one needs a secure open source way to make tx a bit more practical. Compromises, but uncompromisable

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      what's hot wallet?
      >wallet that's disconnected from the internet
      I use Trust wallet and always force stop it after using. Problem solved

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >ledger has software backdoor
    >usb keys have NSA/chink hardware backdoor
    Not much better tbh

  9. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    You only need anything other than a pen and paper + a laptop if your crypto portfolio is worth north of 5mm

  10. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: paranoid chuds who think the government is going after their 500 dollars in LINK

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      the problem is really if any nwo coin has some stratospheric gain they will absolutely steal from anyone and everyone they can

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        they can try, but will not succeed

  11. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Replies in this thread glow hard.

    Here's how you use Tails:
    Boot on air gapped computer, with networking disabled (option in Tails)
    Create a multi sig wallet with Electrum as one key and your HWW as another key
    Check all receiver addresses on both wallets
    If you ever need to send out of cold storage (which you shouldn't) then create the transaction in Electrum on an internet connected device, scan the transaction to Tails via QR code to sign in Electrum and your HWW, then scan back via QR code and broadcast

    Yes there is some miniscule risk that glowies have compromised your air gapped computer to connect via a hidden network, compromised Tails or Electrum, AND compromised your HWW firmware, but it's highly unlikely.

  12. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    this is ok for holding when you need to make like one tx every few years.

    Hardware wallets are for using crypto daily. With my trezor I can plug it in and approve a metamask transaction in about 10 seconds. Booting into another OS, signing offline, transferring it back to the online computer, that is a complete pain in the ass.

    Is it as safe as if I never did anything with the seed, of course not, but that's not he point of a hardware wallet. I can plug my trezor into a completely virus ridden computer and not have my seed stolen and can verify all the transactions.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      are you advertising and begging
      >ib4 no
      out

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Begging?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Saying u own X is not advertising, how new are u?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          not technically
          but its basically like a salesman running around and praising some shit because HE owns it
          its advertising and begging, especially the second part makes it obviously clear

          also why is nobody of the corpo advertisers shilling this
          https://github.com/cryptoadvance/specter-diy

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, well then by that logic every post on this board is advertising. Educate yourself before putting out ridiculous claims, newfag.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Most are. Some are penny paid homosexuals, a lot by now and some are poor suckers that are trying to sucker others. Especially those with thin air minted tokens of corpo homosexuals, jpmason adjusted scams like eth and its erc-20 bullshit and other proof of israelite buy my token you suckers

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            w/e autist, just replace "trezor" with "hardware wallet" my only point was that booting from a USB stick is technically a hot wallet, and using tails OS just makes it into a sort of imitation air gap set up. Its not what a hardware wallet is.

            Wow so you're ad advertising shill for specter-diy??!

            btw trezor is completely open source too, like your link, except it will have way better integration because a lot more people use it.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              I just saw the link and this is actually advertising, kek. Eating your own words.

              Advertising open source diy?
              the scream of a corpo that realizes his roi will never come

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                What. You’re retarded. Read your own post, shill

                are you advertising and begging
                >ib4 no
                out

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Advertising and begging like in doing grunt work for corpos

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                meds

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Rule 7
                Rule 9
                you are incompetent slave

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You’re on the wrong board, nig.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No I am at exactly at the place I need to be new liberal fascist corpo jpmason slave

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            I just saw the link and this is actually advertising, kek. Eating your own words.

  13. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you get a hardware wallet
    DIY
    only open source can be trusted, if you can read it that is
    https://github.com/cryptoadvance/specter-diy

  14. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    why is javascript not actually disabled in tor browser on "safest" and why is the default home page for tor browser on tails a clearnet link?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >using the internet on your cold storage Tails

      Ngmi

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