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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, 3:06.9
    >2022 Toyota GR86 Premium, 3:11.8
    Ehhhh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >mk7 Fiesta ST, 3:12:1
      and that's without an LSD

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The MK7 is one of the best hot hatches ever made. I'd take one of those over a Focus RS.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it's true, the mass cancels out

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        routine for those calves breh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It’s true, it’s science

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i'm mirin

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >1994 audi s4: 3700 lbs, 2.2 liter turbo making ~230 hp with patented Audisteer(r) engine pendulum technology - 9:05
      >gt86: 2773 lbs, 2.0 liter engine making ~200 hp with muh rwd balance - 9:09
      you can't call it a handling car when an audi with a chassis from the early 80s beats it even with a horrible power to weight disadvantage.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Getting beat by one of THESE is still much much worse.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Power matters a lot on the ring, specially at that low levels, and the turbo engine has torque at way lower rpms.

        this shitbox wouldn't beat my ND except in a straight line

        Cope. The brz/86 beats the nd on every track test I've seen. In straight line, the ND jumps out first due to low weight, but the toyobaru catches up and beats it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >gt86
        you might as well compare the Audi to the 90hp tofu hatchback from the 80s, since both are not in production and unrelated with OPs statement which stays true even in your own example.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The audi is a shit chassis. Its heavy, macpherson front/semi-trailing rear, the iron engine is over 2 feet long and mounted entirely forward of the front axle. Its a luxury boat that had a little extra oomph for its day and has no business being faster around any track tyan a legitimate sports car on a 30+ year newer chassis.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Get fricked in real life on races i go to an automagic gt86 shits on everything not on slicks unless it makes 400+ horses.
        Internet track comparisons dont correlate to real life

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk is $90,000 you absolute moron. You can get so many things that blow an 86 out of the water for cheaper. You’re the same homosexual from the last thread.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      LMAO

      https://i.imgur.com/fM9MZVG.jpg

      *overtakes you on a corner*

      picrel

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      still one of the best options for Europe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sure. I get cars in USA are more powerful overall: 2nd hand Corvette's, cheap muscle cars, high displacement trucks, engine options not available in Europe for Japanese cars, upscale Japanese brands, a lot more 350/370Z around, WRX STI... Then, there's a lot more of long straight roads. I don't think I'd get a brz/86 if I lived there unless I knew I'd be driving on twisty roads often.

        In Europe, the most common car that will overpower a brz/86 is a "premium" car (Mercedes / BMW / Audi and the rare Jaguar or Lexus), and not most of them, since people getting a good engine model are less and less. The trend is getting the base model for looks and status. Nine out of ten premium SUVs I see are 2.0 diesel. These drivers go fast on the highway, where any car can go fast, but not so much on regular roads. Hot hatches aren't really that popular. Most buyers will get a base "premium" car instead of a Civic Type R or Golf R. Young people don't have money for neither. That's why I laugh at anons "challenged" by minivans: That won't fricking happen in Europe lol

        So yeah, pretty good option outside of the USA. It's quite above average there.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          i cant wait til we force mutts to use cuckboxes like we do

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            europoors forcing the US to do anything

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Your favourite American cars are becoming EVs and ofcourse this movement was started in Europe kek

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The tesla is a cool car and challenger/charger from dodge is for Black folk anyway

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's good even in bumper to bumper traffic. That's how you know a car is good. But for sure it shines if you get lost in the hills or drunk drive to work every morning through the snow in the city.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, lmao even.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Conditions were not very good for the gr86's laptime (29°c)

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > sport coupe vs warm hatch
          pass

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Track hawks are fricking beasts though, I got annihilated by one playing traffic light drag race. I was actually impressed at the speed, it was like a ZL1 or a Shelby.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >literally anything
    *Overtakes you immediately after*
    Nothing personnel kid

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, bro.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ... and let's not talk about Europe.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's funny how you can see the 2008 crisis affecting the line.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw my car has the same HP as a car from the early 90s

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *overtakes you on the corners, straights, and hairpins*

    nothing personnel kid

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >not posting the Fat Frick Club version

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no, a 5' tall beaner in their slow car!
      Try not to blow the turbo kid.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I drive a silverado I get gapped by Corollas. My revs sound better tho

  5. 2 years ago
    Giddy

    nope

    • 2 years ago
      Giddy

      frick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >13.6 s

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >one starts at 30k
        >the other at >100k
        moronic comparison

        • 2 years ago
          Giddy

          it what i drive and op made a claim, not sure why he is picking fights out of his league.

  6. 2 years ago
    Giddy
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >gt86
      you might as well compare the Audi to the 90hp tofu hatchback from the 80s, since both are not in production and unrelated with OPs statement which stays true even in your own example.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why did I agree to a race on a skid pad?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *laps you without even trying*

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is it surprising to people that a kit car made for the track outperforms a sporty street car?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not if the 'sporty' street car is a BRZ

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    this shitbox wouldn't beat my ND except in a straight line

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    lol good luck

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao this guy has falkens. Get a load of this poorgay. Everyone, let's point and laugh at this anon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        let me guess, you think nankangs are crap too because you brandgay?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but:
          Hoosier A7/R7--A052--CR-S--RE71rs--shit --------RT660
          .t RT660 owner full of regret.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's not like 660s last long, go drive the car and upgrade. i wanted to throw cr-s on my car but they don't make the tire size i need for my fronts, so itll have to wait until i go 255 squared. a052 and hoosiers are wasted on me, although im getting a set of used r7 takeoffs soon. no idea how the bridgestones stack up.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *overtakes you while you are overtaking*

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Tesla MYP
    yeah, if i let you.
    >i let you
    i still make more than you

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    absolutely useless outside of a track and cornering fast in the real world is more about ball size than car

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    absolutely brilliant car to have fun on the street without doing crazy speeds and it will get a smile out of you when taking corners

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lol. Whyats funny about it, and hot hatches in general is even though they're slow, you'll still get pulled over by the police all the time, because, well, look at it.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >NO, WAIT! THE GR SUCKS! IT CAN’T BEAT 50-60k CARS! NO, IT CAN’T POSSIBLY BE LESS THAN 1 SECOND SLOWER THAN SUPRA!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      115.9 and its only like 2.4s off a m2 competition? thats pretty quick.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Do have to ask, was this test with the Z's shit Bridgestone tires or did they switch it out?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Guess Ill have to post it again…
    GT86 destroying 60k+ cars with no turbo or superchargers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >some gay in a shitbox """races""" cars who aren't even acknowledging his existence
      think about how many fart canned civics have crushed lamborghinis the same way.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They are letting him overtake them because they are slowing him down, it’s a rule of that circuit. He also overtakes several civics in his videos. Cope

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >some gay in a shitbox """races""" cars who aren't even acknowledging his existence
        He's on a racetrack you fricking sperg. This is unrivaled cope.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    don't even care how fast it actually is, i just want:
    >muh RWD
    >muh NA
    >muh manual
    >muh 4 cylinder

    the choice is literally this or a Miata. and i don't fit in that, so....

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why chose a NA I4? Your limiting your new options and your used options.
      NA I4 does have a type of character but so does NA V6(Camaro 350/370Z).

      I4 kinda wimpy too lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        less weight

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        V6 is much more expensive, the 86 itself could have been much cheaper with an I4

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    > ask local dealership about gr86
    > there were 0 quota for my c**t in 2022, probably wont get shit for 2023 as well

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *dies because we're not on a racetrack and a semi was coming the other way*

    based

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I currently have a BRZ, super happy with it and I'm considering getting a GR86 but the new Civic Type R looks good too...

    There are some major pros and cons for the GR86:

    Pros:
    - drifts everywhere
    - maintenance is cheap (compared to a 300hp+ car)
    - drives well
    - decent cabin room
    - more or less daily driveable
    - a bit expensive but maintains its value very well

    Cons:
    - it is a bit slow... i dont mind that, and in many ways it is a good thing it does not get to 200kmh+ on the mountain roads but it could be a little faster...
    - super noisy on the highway
    - high fuel consumption
    - subaru engine
    - garanteed to crash at least once while drifting
    - feel compelled to always be sideways

    For the Civic:

    Pros:
    - fast
    - easier to live with on a daily basis

    Cons:
    - FWD
    - Doesnt drift, not even a hand brake
    - Expensive to maintain
    - will probably be very expensive
    - maybe a bit too fast.. considering the speeds that I do in the brz already, this would be an entirely different universe..

    Thoughts?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      depends on what you like more. Going fast or sliding around

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >FWD
      >complains it doesnt drift
      i sure love my twingo, too bad the cargo space sucks ass

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how does it compare to a mid 00s wrx/evo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      same power to weight as a stock bugeye

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Bugeye is infinitely more tuneable tho

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >driving to home at the speed limit with cruise control
    >toyobaru gay gets offended and tailgates me for miles because he thought I wanted to race
    >takes him 30 minutes to pass my base A4 company car
    >probably thought he won

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Delusional Audi drivers be like:
      >driving at the speed limit with cruise control
      >sees car behind
      >"hahaha he can't pass me"

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    im generally pretty open minded about cars, and i get most things come down to personal preference, but i will never understand gays who buy 86s

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you dont heckin understand, how else will i carry tofu round a corner slower than most other cars models on the road

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      seriously? what's not to get about a snappy RWD coupe?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        underpowered, awful gas mileage for what it is, and has gay boyracer styling. A BMW does everything better with much more power and a luxury interior

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Adequate power, regular gas mileage for a 2.4 high revving boxer engine, and has a great mixture of aggressiveness and classy styling. A BMW does npc stuff better, like speeding on the highway without feeling anything for double the price.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >snappy
        >7+s 0-60

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's the auto. Official numbers for the manual are on the low 6s, with some tests achieving 5.9 secs.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >low 6s, even 5.9
            >snappy
            lol,
            lmao even

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            when has snappy ever described speed? it means it handles well and changes direction quickly

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >im generally pretty open minded but i will never understand gays...
      About the self awareness I expect from the amerimutts on this board. If you can't understand the appeal of a brand new car with a back to basics 90's design philosophy that's also cheap enough for young enthusiasts to aspire towards you are a gargantuan homosexual and you will not make it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Cheap enough for young enthusiasts to aspire towards
        20k has paid for two cars that can both outhandle and put bus lengths on an 86

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Go on then. Name them so we can laugh at you.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mazdaspeed 3. 55k on motor, new turbo. Im in it $12k, The other one you'll laugh at but will still gap your shit. 04 CVPI, ridetech coils, billet rear control arms, 255 square stance, cammed out, 300bhp.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oops

            Meant for

            Go on then. Name them so we can laugh at you.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you think a crown vic would outhandle the 86? idk about that but i’ve also never driven either, with good tires i agree a vic will 100% beat it on most tracks

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            With the right driver who can use the acceleration I think it would be possible. The coil overs completely transformed the turn-in.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Greyhound buses handle surprisingly well and if you boosted the frick out of the engine to the point of a tractor with no trailer then it could quite possibly kick some ass on a lot of tracks. But I don't think most people attracted to a little light car are going to be cross shopping on that basis.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yeah i agree with you, the gr86 is a nice refined well handling car that looks fun to drive, theres lots of cheaper stuff that’ll go faster but i doubt much of those will be daily drivable and offer as nice handling at the price point

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >A 10yr old fwd hatch with a replaced motor (always a good sign) and a mass produced body on frame boomer pile. Idek how you can type those out without seeing the funny side of it. Your angle is that it doesn't matter how much worse those cars are (nevermind the age of the cars) as long as they can put down better numbers cheaper. To me, that is such a flawed way to look at vehicle buying. The 86 is a solid platform. The possibilities are endless. The ms3 is a fwd hatch and will always be a fwd hatch. It will never be a real woman. Same goes for the Crown Victoria. It's just polishing a turd. The 86's issue is what? Power? Supercharger and call it a day. You're making 300whp easily. Btw fun fact: Ms3 MSRP is the same as a GR86 not even accounting for inflation. You've bought a couple duds simple as. If you understood what the platform offers you'd understand there aren't shortcuts. Most comparable cars are Honda s2000 and Nissan S15. Look up their prices and see what you find. Now tell me if you'd rather pay that for an old beat up service checklist rust bucket or pay less money for a brand new car you can daily and beat on without a care in the world. Pretty obvious choice.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I do all the work dummy.
            Im building a new motor with a garrett turbo for the MS3, another 4k, aiming for mid 400s. The crown vic also has a motor in the machine shop which is going to push 500 crank with a 3k blower setup. Still under the price of a 300whp 86. Panther platform is underestimated.
            >10 year old pile. Its california, not a spec of rust. Koni yellow shocks on that b***h
            >Also why is your post greentexted

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I got mine for a little over $12k. It's simply nonsensical to compare used prices to MSRP because hating on the toyobaru was never an argument about buying new vs. used.

            And I'm not knocking the crown vic. It's a great platform for what it is. But what you're building isn't what I'd go for in that genre. It's almost like we live in a world where people still have some freedom to have different goals rather than having a lada if you could afford a car in the first place.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            dont agree with the hate for fwd hatches, i get it if u wanna do drifty nonsense or donuts or whatever tf but fwd hatches can be fast as hell, look at spoon, i guarantee you a gti beats a brz86frs around the majority of tracks, type r is also faster i would bet, and i think an older civic or gti would make just as good of a platform to build on as long as you actually know how to drive and can control occasional understeer and you understand how not to shred your front tires, btw you can get a less than $500 tune for your gti and you’ll make over 300 hp and nearly 400lb ft, meanwhile that supercharger is gonna be a lot more and ruin your daily drivability cause the cars not made for having boost, and you’ll find its not as tough as you think when you start jamming on shit that wasnt meant to be on it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Sure they can be, but I don't set lap times with my car. I don't even drag race minivans. Crazy I know right!

            One of my favorite FWD hatches was a shitty old 323 that clocked in I think maybe under 2500lbs. Short wheel base and +5HP from fricking with the engine made staying on throttle at all times to race against ambient traffic all the fun. But obviously if you're just a highway pull guy then you're looking for something else.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            so what do you do? brag about possibilities you’re never going to pursue because you dont care about going fast or tracking the car, or do you just like going slowly through local twisty turnys like a boomer with a vette

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm afraid I don't really understand the question. What possibilities I have or might pursue have no bearing on the matter, and I've never driven a vette so I can't say how I'd drive one. It'd be interesting to try one, but I doubt I'd want to put the money in to it as a daily. And if you mean an old one then, as I said before, I have a different idea of what I'd where I'd want to go, depending on the easily available options.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you own an 86 right? and you’re trying to prove its better than other cars because of the “possibilities of the platform” right? if you’re not actually looking to pursue said possibilities how is the car any better than anything else? what do you even like about it? it handles well? you just said you dont try to track it or drive fast on public roads so why does it matter how it handles? every car handles well going the speed limit

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I have owned one in the past. I have a hard time picking favorites, but it's one of my favorites. As for why I made the decision and what I did and didn't like about it, I'm really not interested in going over that for the zillionth time.

            If you think all cars handle the same under the speed limit then it's probably only going to continue to baffle you, and that wasn't even my sole rubric. I barely did more than limp it around the dealership (buying in january lol) to shake out obvious problems since it was used. I also got laughed at by the salesman when he was bringing out the keys because I was crawling out of the back seat on my hands and feet. I always try sitting in the back first, and I was curious to find out if I could fit behind myself.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i dont think you’ve explained it once in the thread you just made vague comments, show me where you did in the post, and yes ik not all cars handle the same at the speed limit but i dont see how anyone would enjoy driving a finely tuned suspension at 40 on a shitty public road, that just seems like a weird reason to buy a sports car

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I bought it years ago back when the trolling was actually funny, so I wouldn't be surprised if you never saw me write essays about every little thing about it it, like needing to use rain-x on the rear window because it's too flat for the rain to run off of it and there's no rear wiper.

            As I've already said, I expect it will continue to baffle you if you think every car is a mushbox. I've never driven a gti r, so I can't comment on it, But it's a bit of a different audience. I took an older S4 out for a while and that was a hoot, but it's also not really the kind of car that I want or want to pay for nowadays. The owner originally got rid of it because it got kept getting stolen lol. Right nice car though, and I didn't really get close to wringing it out.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i have a gti, not an r, and just explain why you like it for fricks sake man, if i thought every car was a mushbox i probably wouldn’t be on this board in the first place

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No. I watched a bunch of youtube reviews after I got it home because I didn't really know much about it beyond what I needed to know to jump in and find out for myself. They're mostly on the money about what's good and not good.

            I haven't driven a golf uhhhh the 90s back when sirrocos were also common. I guess I rode in a couple of 2005ish GTI which was quite a nice pragmatic, comfortable, well-appointed, with easy street power. I can definitely see the mass attraction other than that they tend to cost more than japboxes in the US. So I can't really compare. And I'm really just not interested in putting together master's thesis about why exactly I like it this evening. Catch me on a better day maybe. You might even be the kind of person who would hate the ride or interior or whatever instead, and those would be perfectly valid complaints.

            So for instance one day I was so hungover on my way to the airport and then when I got there I realized I had to drive all the way back, sprint from the parking lot to my office and back to get my laptop, and then drive back the airport through what had become morning rush hour traffic. And it was really nice because at that point I was starting to fade out for a split second unexpectedly, and uh I was going to discuss the front end suspension and how easy it is to adjust course in an equally split second and all the usual rest but like I said I don't really want to write a tome tonight. I gotta get some shit done and go to sleep.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You really don't get it. A fwd will never be a real woman. You will never oversteer. You will never have exciting driving dynamics. You will wheel hop and torque steer and you will be happy because muh power. Fwd is a shallow experience and very few cars have managed to make it worthwhile. A Mazda 3 isn't one of those.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            how is a car not oversteering diminishing the driving experience? my gti handles better than most awd cars i’ve driven, the excitement is from pushing the car to it’s limits and my limits, i dont understeer and go “WHEEE THE CAR IS GOING WRONG WAY”, why would i do that with oversteer

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The shit i have to read on this board, unbelievable lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >i guarantee you a gti beats a brz86frs around the majority of tracks
            It depends on the track. I've seen the Golf R being beaten by the 86 on some of them, with the VW being significantly more expensive and powerful.

            Prices in Spain:
            - GR86 €33k
            - Golf GTI €46.4k*
            *This is without DSG, non clubsport version. The R model is even more expensive and powerful.

            My point is, what's so amazing about beating a car which is a fraction of the price? Even then, it's not so clear cut when you take out straight line performance.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            idk whats up with spain but here in north america a gti and a gr86 cost almost the exact same, at least here in canada

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            also whatever you were watching obviously had some idiot driving the r, by pretty much every metric a stock r vs a stock gr86 the r should win nearly every time

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Must be the driver

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            point is still valid, a 4wd car making significantly more power should beat an 86 on like 95% of tracks, tell me what track that is

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >point is still valid, a 4wd car making significantly more power should beat an 86 on like 95% of tracks, tell me what track that is
            Lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The best part of this is that the GR86 is on Hankook RS4s and not RE-71RS'.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            ITT: brochure anons like learning power isn't everything and weight is important for a sports car. Your cookie cutter chassis will never be a real woman.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >your cookie cutter chassis will never be a real woman
            your chassis is based on subaru global platform. hmmmm

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nope. It just uses welding techniques and materials from Subaru Global Platform. It's not like a [Golf] where a multitude of cars are made from the same chassis, including SUVs and minivans.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This. You can see it explained in the savagegeese video at the 5:18 mark.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Pack it up boys it's over the gr86 is basically a Subaru outback since they use the same bonding processes

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I guarantee a gti beats a gr86 on majority of tracks
            I guarantee you that you are wrong

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the appeal of a brand new car

        a female or homosexual wrote this post

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >a female or homosexual wrote this post
          A coper wrote this post.

          I do all the work dummy.
          Im building a new motor with a garrett turbo for the MS3, another 4k, aiming for mid 400s. The crown vic also has a motor in the machine shop which is going to push 500 crank with a 3k blower setup. Still under the price of a 300whp 86. Panther platform is underestimated.
          >10 year old pile. Its california, not a spec of rust. Koni yellow shocks on that b***h
          >Also why is your post greentexted

          You keep comparing old cars to a new car. You could just look at a used 1st gen 86. You could stumble upon them for $11k. That's a chassis ripe for a built engine or engine swap and it would significantly undercut the price of a new car. The difference is I'm not living in fairyland and I don't want to use a frankenstein as a daily. I'd rather something new where I don't have to think about what previous owners did or didn't do. I have a 5 yr warranty and my shit looks good. It also handles better than both of those cars without question. There is no zero sex appeal from a Mazda hatch or crown Victoria. The only thing those cars will attract are beaners and old men.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Black person stop coping and buy a mustang

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >where I don't have to think about what previous owners did or didn't do

            go back to riding the bus, that way you don't have to think about anything

            Okay discord neets

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >where I don't have to think about what previous owners did or didn't do

            go back to riding the bus, that way you don't have to think about anything

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            My current beater is old and twice used clearly beat up, but in surprisingly good condition after a little fixing up. When I chose my newish and twice used brz over the competition, one of the considerations was that I knew that for the next year or two I was going to need to spend my free time on things other than driveway TLC.
            i don't know about going fully new, but different strokes for different folks.

            Priorities are an ever-shifting thing.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >11k toyota 86
            With 150k on the clock? Most good examples are going for close to 20k it looks like and thats in CA
            >Muh cars sex appeal
            Oh, you're a sperg. Girls love riding passenger in both cars and red light racing people. Most recent prostitute was 20 with a '21 5.7 hemi, so I must be doing something right

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Prices are heavily inflated right now. There are virtually no good deals to be had. Makes buying new all the more appealing.
            >Most recent prostitute
            Why would I care about what a prostitute thinks? All you've done is suggest you have low standards in women and cars tbh.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i love how every single 86 owner on DA claims to be drifting and slewing around windy backroads every day when we all know that 99% of their time is spent commuting to their retail job on a freeway

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Feels good being in the 1% and also enjoying it for 8 hour cross-state drives for family events anyway.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, bro. Everybody is a murrican.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People who dont know how to drive dont buy toybarus. People who like to drift eill not buy a fwd family car, no matter how much power it has. Its called self-selection bias.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *rear ends and totals a getz*
    not even damage to my car at all hahahaha ill total a 86 next if u dont watch it m8

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >slides off the road on tiny tires

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing all the hate for the 86 has been fantastic
    >Muh Gen2 is going to be 40k
    30k with lsd
    >Well… slower than an mx5
    Faster than mx5 and as fast as stuff like gti 0-60
    >Muh lap times
    Gr86 gets faster lap times or almost as fast as stuff like the nissan z, type r, mustang gt, etc. see lap times in previous posts
    >Well… It can’t compete against cars that I can’t afford!
    Previous gen with a few mods destroyed 70k cars let alone turbo, this gen is doing it without mods

    YOU ARE HERE^

    >Well… GR86 can’t frick my mom, wife and daughter

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm very glad the car exists. The market really was missing something like it. It really sucks that the oil pan issues are happening, as otherwise it sounds perfect besides that one moisture-caused blinker issue. Just big and comfortable enough to be a DD, slow-car-fast level of power, one of the best looking cars on the road, amazing handling. Depending on how it's priced, the GR Corolla is quite likely to be a better bang for your buck however just because hatch/awd/especially the 300hp, but Toyota is moronic and keeping them artificially scarce so for most people they'll either be unattainable or so marked up that there is no reason to get one over a Mustang GT or something.

      I just hope if there's another generation they give it a much better engine. The HP bump is nice but I don't think anyone in a sports car feels good about their purchase when some mom's minivan or pigfat pickup truck completely mogs their vehicle. Also as a Subaru owner the fricking boxer engine sucks dick.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I wish there was some after market easy fix for the oil pan silicone bs, I’m really considering getting one but…

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I've never been raced nor mogged by a minivan or a pickup. I'm pretty sure you have to go to a set up drag race with e-celebs recording it to capture that moment.

        The only serious street races were from an obviously modded STI who was even racing semis just to hear his exhaust and he got pulled over about a mile down the road for trying to race me even though I was also speeding at the time, and this ghetto BMW in new jersy with blue headlights and ridiculous acceleration when he opened it up. I wish he got pulled over but he was such a shit driver he kept getting stuck behind me despite that I was just trying to maintain a constant speed. I do not count ricer flybys in ghetto altimas even older than my 2013 as "races" or "mogging."

        On the other hand, there were several occasions of a fun game of chase with other people in fun cars that were by no means as hard as you'd go on a track. No problems there. Pleasant excuse for a bit of unexpected fun.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        > I don't think anyone in a sports car feels good about their purchase when some mom's minivan or pigfat pickup truck completely mogs their vehicle.
        Stacy's big fat SUV EV that comes out in 8 years will smoke every affordable sports car in "current year"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          As in smokes wiener. Unfortunately, because of israeli litigation, satcy will not be held responsible for the crimes of the company because she signed up for premium prejudice with credit from the federal reisraelite bank.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mustang GT has better skidpad and it goes without saying that it absolutely molests the 86 in power

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Could you pick a more irrelevant comparison? The point is to go sideways, not to not go sideways.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Mustang GT has better skidpad
      Is this like that time a mustang's lat gs were compared to a Nissan Zs despite their being an enormous difference between tire compounds? Like massive Michelin cup 2s vs some cheap skinny Bridgestones tires? Wow congrats your car is a real handling machine. An 86 would annihilate the average mustang's cornering ability even on skinny ass street tires lol. Mustangs will never not be fat keep coping

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Could you pick a more irrelevant comparison? The point is to go sideways, not to not go sideways.

        Kek. I'll let you guess which one is which.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care which one is witch. The new mustangs are good cars. It's a matter of personal preference. I used to live near a GT who was fun to chase around with. He even trollishly parked next to me sometimes when I wasn't expecting it.

          There was also an older mustang in the area all flowmastered and everything who used to drive like a complete bandit one wheel peeling every turn. He was more of a speed demon though and probably wouldn't have been much fun except in the snow. It was nice to see a guy enjoying it though.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Go on. Post mustang model and tire specs.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This homosexual didn't post it so I will.
            >GR86 pulls .98gs on a skidpad using 215/40r18 Michelin PS4 (uhp) tires
            >Mustang GT pulls 0.96gs even with the performance pack which uses 275/40r19 Michelin PS4S (uuhp)
            So reality is the more expensive, heavier tired pigfat still pulls worse g's than a bicycle tired sports car. Seethe and dilate mustang fats LMAO

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What's to get? Tires are a wear item. If you don't like the factory tires then sell them and get whatever you like. Mine came with winter tires that were barely better than my normal choice of all seasons. OH FRICKING WELL. Spare tire department called.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >What's to get?
            GR86 outperforms the shartstain on smaller, worse tires. So changing tires will embarass crustang even more.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >b-but if you mod the BRZ it can beat the mustang
            Pathetic. Don't even get me started on how massive the stang aftermarket is.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            LMAO so at first tires are just a wear item now they're a mod list because it makes the lard special look bad. Absolute clown. Btw you're insanely naive if you think an s550 will have the aftermarket the new BRZ will have. Wouldn't expect less from a domestic shill though.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mustang bros...I thought weight didn't matter

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They comment briefly at 16:42 how they prefer the BRZ over a Mustang Ecoboom with the Performance Package.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mustang bros we got too wienery
    >Verification not required

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's some great driving. It almost makes it look like it would even make any difference if the car weren't bouncing around everywhere like clown house.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *immediately passes you after the turn*

    >NUTHN’ PERSONAL BUD

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Corvette owner driving their car? Not taking it personally that's based tbh

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *gets gapped to muffled van halen in the distance*

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/fM9MZVG.jpg

      *overtakes you on a corner*

      >dives past both of you in the braking section

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Black person what

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >spins out just after the apex

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    zamn b***h that shit bussin on baby

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    86 owners in australia are a special breed

    its like everyone who put an oversized spoiler on their rice burners collectively all moved to one model of car.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's almost like they knew the target market amirite

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone buy one of these useless pieces of shit lately? If yes, did you have to wait and pay dealer markup?

    I just checked multiple dealers for the Civic Si - $6,000 dealer markup, 6 month wait. Might have to get one of these instead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just custom order a BRZ for MSRP and get exactly what you want plus mechanics who will understand how the engine works when you take it in for warranty work.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Has to be through dealer. Tried with Si. Dealer told me 6k dealer "options" or gtfo.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a flat cycle engine. Not even mechanics who work on flat heads can understand how it works. It uses three and a half strokes, which means you have to shift 1/3 later or else you'll need warranty work :0

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Same deal with the 86. Waited 6 months and paid 5k markup for a black premium manual in nj. 38k otd after sales tax. Its rough but I needed a car within a year and this was the only new car I was interested in. Markups are on any car that's somewhat desirable rn. Might be worth waiting but idk could get worse before it gets better

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    can i just say, what a meh car.
    I'm not upgrading from the NC to a worse handling car for 230hp.

    toyota needed to not be scared of hurting supra sales and put in a 3.0 Straight 6 with zero involvement from the worst engine builders on earth (subaru/BMW).

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah and then it would put out 1000HP from the factory using 30 year old tooling. They even would have saved on not having airbags and being exempt from emissions regulations because it's a "classic" even brand new. And it would totally recreate the experience of driving an ancient corolla except this time it's actually an ancient supra.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >3.0 Straight 6 with zero involvement from the worst engine builders on earth (subaru/BMW).
      You're moronic, the b58 is better than every shitty Toyota engine on the market

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you will never have a dipstick

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the FRZ86's are fun cars and good for the track but unless you're going to the track / actually snakey mountain roads all the time you're going to eventually wish you had more than 4 cylinders. Being hard limited to 300 WHP before the engine is a timebomb makes for a car that gets you yawning after a few months of use.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If only they had made it a boxer 5 I would finally be satified. Why couldn't they just put ONE MORE CYLINDER in it. That's what's wrong!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >boxer 5
        homie wut

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The more cylinders the merrier. I mean they could have just made any whole new engine from scratch for it. Or at least an ancient I5 from volvo without an intercooler that hasn't been in production since forever. It could have even been a diesel if toyota actually CARED.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just going by how many comments this thing generates here months after launch and how it gets compared with everything up to V8s, you know this thing is great.

    inb4 "It's just because how bad and underwhelming it is." Bro, there's way worse and more underwhelming cars out there, but they won't generate a fraction of the comments.

    >But their raucous barks
    >are only a sign that we ride
    Labrador (poem), 1808, Goethe

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