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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Disprized is obviously dispraised. How can any fricking ACTUAL FRICKING moron seriously think it's "despised"? Unbelievable

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    cope. You live in the shadows of giants.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    agreed
    can't stand the writing and the plots suck

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Filtered

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      For sure. He's a good writer no doubt, but, nothing more than that. I'll never understand what Harold Bloom saw in him. I feel like I couldn't have read the same plays that he did.

      Thinking Shakespeare is overrated is the most midwit, high school-tier opinion.

      Every praise labeled at Shakespeare that tries to make him sound like a god can be refuted
      >He invented the human
      No, Homer and Aeschylus did.
      >200 IQ superhuman genius
      Read the folio written by his hand. He couldn't spell his own name.
      >He invented language
      He invented words because he didn't have a great understanding of vocabulary. The fact we today use the words and phrases he coined was beyond what he could've imagined and out of his control.
      >Wrote the best characters because they're multifaceted
      Read Mahabharata and 1,001 nights.
      >Universal themes
      This applies to so many writers. It's ridiculous.

      Yeah, he was fine. His sonnets are better than his plays.

      No, Homer and Aeschylus did not "invent the human" in the way Bloom meant Shakespeare invented the human. Shakespeare's characters clearly, undeniably have a kind of consciousness and inwardness that Homer and Aeschylus didn't even come close to giving their characters, as great as they were. You could more reasonably make the argument that Chaucer "invented the human" before Shakespeare. You were filtered.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >have a kind of consciousness and inwardness
        Hamlet is literally Amleth and Orestes. Cope.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Shakespeare is great and his plays have a focus on the inner human experience that few other writers, especially of the era, show (closest I've read is Dante), but to say Homer doesn't give his characters an inner quality is beyond absurd.
        Consider the two big works of 20th century English literature each has inspired: Ulysses, versus...Infinite Jest (lol).
        Being a fervent Shakespeare fanboy is also just as big a sign of midwittery. You're treading on a road hacks like Harold Bloom paved.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Being a fervent Shakespeare fanboy is also just as big a sign of midwittery.
          Based

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No, Homer's characters do not have inner experiences in the way that Shakespeare's do. They are not surprised by what they hear themselves think, causing them to question their identity, in the way that Shakespeare's do. Yes, they're beautiful characters with powerful emotions, but they're not self-reflective in the way that Hamlet and Macbeth are, for example. There's a change in characterisation that seems to start with Shakespeare. Bloom exaggerates, of course, but he's right that Shakespeare's representation of personality is incredibly original.
          >Consider the two big works of 20th century English literature each has inspired: Ulysses, versus...Infinite Jest (lol).
          This is asinine. Homer and Shakespeare's influences are incalculable, and to reduce them to two specific books, just because they have explicit references to each, is hilariously silly. Not to mention, Joyce's biggest influence, by far, is Shakespeare. The connection between Ulysses and the Odyssey is obvious, but Shakespeare had a much deeper, less explicit influence on him.
          >You're treading on a road hacks like Harold Bloom paved.
          Bardolatry predates Bloom by centuries. He didn't pave the road lol.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ulysses is literally a thesis on Shakespeare's Hamlet you fricking idiot.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    For sure. He's a good writer no doubt, but, nothing more than that. I'll never understand what Harold Bloom saw in him. I feel like I couldn't have read the same plays that he did.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Every praise labeled at Shakespeare that tries to make him sound like a god can be refuted
      >He invented the human
      No, Homer and Aeschylus did.
      >200 IQ superhuman genius
      Read the folio written by his hand. He couldn't spell his own name.
      >He invented language
      He invented words because he didn't have a great understanding of vocabulary. The fact we today use the words and phrases he coined was beyond what he could've imagined and out of his control.
      >Wrote the best characters because they're multifaceted
      Read Mahabharata and 1,001 nights.
      >Universal themes
      This applies to so many writers. It's ridiculous.

      Yeah, he was fine. His sonnets are better than his plays.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wagner wrote the best explanation of Shakespeare's genius.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Have you put much effort for to make this thread.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >for to make

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why does he have an ear ring? Was he a gay or a sailor or something?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He was a pirate, he copied everything from others and took the credit
      He also modernized the definition by stealing something without actually taking it away, an idea he got from a contemporary

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Was The Tempest his original idea?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It’s based on a real event iirc. Stolen from reality, from god. Imagine stealing from the lord.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Shameless

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          None of his works were original. THey were all adaptations of stories from history or mythology or other sources.

          Still pretty good writer though.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think he's underrated

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He is the best writer to exist.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      List every writer.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    “Adaptation bad” has to be the most midwit opinion in history
    >no you can’t just adapt and improve an old story all art must be wholly original and separate from any other piece of art ever made
    >why no, I haven’t ever created anything. Why do you ask?

  11. 1 year ago
    Griffin

    Not real

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I get why people like Shakespeare, it's like a puzzle of trying to figure out what the frick he's saying

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Never read him before besides the No Fear Romeo and Juliet in high school. Where do I start boys? Hamlet? Macbeth? Folger or Arden?

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think he's underrated.

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