Catholicism on paper is far better, the theory and philosophy of the church is very rich and interesting. However post-vatican II the church is doing nothing but trying to include the most disgusting people to up their numbers in comparison to Islam.
You'll never see an orthodox member quote orthodoxy for philosophy, it's always catholics - Thomas aquinas is probably the most cited and read christian philosopher.
Thomas Aquinas died centuries before the great schism, in the Eastern Roman Empire. Certainly both the pedolicas and the cucktholicas have equal claim as his ideological descendants?
Yes. Kids need to hear graphic depictions of the torture Jesus went through before the crucifixion and hear the crucifixion and its gory bloody details many times to understand just what Jesus sacrificed for us. Conservative Catholics get this. Protestants, Orthodox, and Liberal Catholics don't seem to get this as much. Conservative Catholicism depicts someone who can easily strike them down but goes willingly to sacrifice for the world and the Passion of the Christ depicts this.
Uhm Orthobros... >2 In addition to the evidence for specific Byzantines
being castrated for careers at the imperial court, there are indeed examples of
specific Byzantines being castrated for the sake of religion. A prominent case
is that of Nikephoros who was bishop of Miletos in the tenth century. His Life
records that his parents intended him to have a religious career, and thus had him
castrated when he was a child.13 He was enrolled amongst the imperial clergy. The
example of the eunuch who had his nephew castrated due to Christian sentiment,
featured in Theophylact of Ochrid’s twelfth-century In Defence o f Eunuchs,
although fictional has a certain weight.14 Further, the number of eunuchs who
are met as clergy in Byzantium suggests that religion was a motivating factor
for castration, despite the fact that in several instances castration was undergone
for other reasons (e.g. punishment and ill health, allegedly) and religious careers
could be embraced subsequent to court careers.
>The association of angels
with mystical castration is interesting in itself, as these beings could be taken
as exemplars of chastity themselves. The monastic existence could be described
as ‘the angelic life’.107 Given that angels were also commonly confounded with
eunuchs, especially in Byzantine thought, this perhaps emphasises again the
concept of the chastity of eunuchs.108
>In Byzantium, then, eunuchs clearly were able to fill religious roles as clergy
and monks (sometimes simultaneously), and could even be recognised as holy.
There was a positive perception of eunuchs which could be deployed to justify
these spiritual positions, though it flew in the face of a co-existing hostile attitude.
Despite official concerns regarding castration, in Byzantium parents and relatives
could imbue their castration of prepubertal kin with a religious significance.
Uhm Orthobros... >2 In addition to the evidence for specific Byzantines
being castrated for careers at the imperial court, there are indeed examples of
specific Byzantines being castrated for the sake of religion. A prominent case
is that of Nikephoros who was bishop of Miletos in the tenth century. His Life
records that his parents intended him to have a religious career, and thus had him
castrated when he was a child.13 He was enrolled amongst the imperial clergy. The
example of the eunuch who had his nephew castrated due to Christian sentiment,
featured in Theophylact of Ochrid’s twelfth-century In Defence o f Eunuchs,
although fictional has a certain weight.14 Further, the number of eunuchs who
are met as clergy in Byzantium suggests that religion was a motivating factor
for castration, despite the fact that in several instances castration was undergone
for other reasons (e.g. punishment and ill health, allegedly) and religious careers
could be embraced subsequent to court careers.
>The association of angels
with mystical castration is interesting in itself, as these beings could be taken
as exemplars of chastity themselves. The monastic existence could be described
as ‘the angelic life’.107 Given that angels were also commonly confounded with
eunuchs, especially in Byzantine thought, this perhaps emphasises again the
concept of the chastity of eunuchs.108
>In Byzantium, then, eunuchs clearly were able to fill religious roles as clergy
and monks (sometimes simultaneously), and could even be recognised as holy.
There was a positive perception of eunuchs which could be deployed to justify
these spiritual positions, though it flew in the face of a co-existing hostile attitude.
Despite official concerns regarding castration, in Byzantium parents and relatives
could imbue their castration of prepubertal kin with a religious significance.
Orthodox bros....
they keep beating us all the time
seething lol
western values are homosexuality and tranny mental illness
sneedthe
True, but nobody also cares about what he says and does besides non european catholics, and american protestants to say that the pope is the anticrhist
>Accepts his execution >Makes no attempt to fight back whatsoever
Nothing about Jesus inspires heroism, unless you think letting yourself get executed is heroic.
>Dying to save humanity and fulfill prophecy >Going into hell and the underworld >Preaching to spirits in the underworld >Emptying out Abraham's Bosom >Taking the keys to death and hell from Satan >Rising again >Being given all power in Heaven and Earth
I think you up to something. We now have a language that is now called Church-Slavic. Orthodox Christians in those times read prayers in their own tongue.
Catholics have very strong phylophical base though. And protestants have strong and very appealing practical ideology, I think.
I would go so far that you might combine that and that may give some renaissance of Christianity.
I can't believe anyone would hold up that Gibsonesque torture porn as something to be proud of when there are so many lovely depictions of Christ. Submission is also, obviously, an important port of Christianity; as with all true religions, so to castigate Islam for it seems to me a soft form of blasphemy.
>thank you for letting me exist mr sultan you are such a nice guy this will be displayed in the patriarchs office as a constant reminder of your kindness
cucks
There are a lot of truths in this meme.
It's basically why I dislike "national catholicism" national catholicism turns the catholic church into something like the orthodox churches, a part of the national identity under the authority of the state.
Proper catholicism is international imperial or feudal, not national
tying religion to nationality always ends up like the garden gnomes rebelling against the Romans
Catholic is treated as an ethnicity in the USA. If you're Italian or Irish you identify as Catholic even if you don't go to Mass or believe the same things. This is why casual Catholics and Catholics who go to Mass each week are so different.
>It's basically why I dislike "national catholicism" national catholicism turns the catholic church into something like the orthodox churches, a part of the national identity under the authority of the state.
Proper catholicism is international imperial or feudal, not national
This was not the case in the early history of the church. Also catholicism might be international now but you can view the protestant revolution backlash as the split for the Western church, that so many chose to reject a distant Italian pope in favor of a more immediate religion is the argument for the failure of Christian internationalism.
>ortholarpers vs cathlarpers
If you're lurking here, don't take what you see in this thread as representative of either church. Both are filled with very holy people who love God. If you're curious about one or both, go to Mass or Liturgy in person and see how people who live in the faith act.
Eastern Orthodoxy > Cuckthoticism
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Catholicism on paper is far better, the theory and philosophy of the church is very rich and interesting. However post-vatican II the church is doing nothing but trying to include the most disgusting people to up their numbers in comparison to Islam.
>theory and philosophy of the church is very rich and interesting.
I would say the same if you read on Orthodox history
Do you have any recommendations in particular anon?
this
Then why not be Sedevacantist or SSPX/SSPV?
You'll never see an orthodox member quote orthodoxy for philosophy, it's always catholics - Thomas aquinas is probably the most cited and read christian philosopher.
Thomas Aquinas died centuries before the great schism, in the Eastern Roman Empire. Certainly both the pedolicas and the cucktholicas have equal claim as his ideological descendants?
>turd vs poo
homosexual
>poo defense force
>traumatizing children is good
Yes. Kids need to hear graphic depictions of the torture Jesus went through before the crucifixion and hear the crucifixion and its gory bloody details many times to understand just what Jesus sacrificed for us. Conservative Catholics get this. Protestants, Orthodox, and Liberal Catholics don't seem to get this as much. Conservative Catholicism depicts someone who can easily strike them down but goes willingly to sacrifice for the world and the Passion of the Christ depicts this.
Jesus/god could have stopped the crucifixion at any time because he is supposedly all powerful.
Wow, this guy's going all the way back to first century criticisms.
Yes, that's literally the entire reason why it's meaningful.
Mormon's also do this. Not surprisingly these are the only two Christian categories who still have strong faith and real population growth.
Yes
Sometimes yes.
So that's why they rape young boy ass.
NOOOOOOO NOT THE LITTLE CHILDRENINOOOOOOOOSSSS
They love molesting them so what do you expect
Huh, that's funny. I prefer the head of my church, His name is Jesus.
>West
>Antipope, answers to NWO and mafia
The left sounds like nationalist slop and nothing to do with Christianity.
The modern left is the second incarnation of Robespierres Cult of Reason. Except all they do is sanctify selfishness, greed and perversion.
>yes align yourself with the pope, not God!
do papists really?
The Pope IS God, he's the 4th person of the trinity
According to whom
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The pope
very funny
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That's been debunked.
https://beatimundocorde.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/the-truth-about-the-anti-catholic-charge-of-lord-god-the-pope/
No fucking way? You don't actually believe that shit do you? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6TxjrHPHypA
Western Europeans had the luxury of being near neighbors that were technologically near the same level and weren't complete psychopaths like mongols.
They also weren't dumb enough to publicly murder a Mongol ambassador.
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Uhm Orthobros...
>2 In addition to the evidence for specific Byzantines
being castrated for careers at the imperial court, there are indeed examples of
specific Byzantines being castrated for the sake of religion. A prominent case
is that of Nikephoros who was bishop of Miletos in the tenth century. His Life
records that his parents intended him to have a religious career, and thus had him
castrated when he was a child.13 He was enrolled amongst the imperial clergy. The
example of the eunuch who had his nephew castrated due to Christian sentiment,
featured in Theophylact of Ochrid’s twelfth-century In Defence o f Eunuchs,
although fictional has a certain weight.14 Further, the number of eunuchs who
are met as clergy in Byzantium suggests that religion was a motivating factor
for castration, despite the fact that in several instances castration was undergone
for other reasons (e.g. punishment and ill health, allegedly) and religious careers
could be embraced subsequent to court careers.
>The association of angels
with mystical castration is interesting in itself, as these beings could be taken
as exemplars of chastity themselves. The monastic existence could be described
as ‘the angelic life’.107 Given that angels were also commonly confounded with
eunuchs, especially in Byzantine thought, this perhaps emphasises again the
concept of the chastity of eunuchs.108
>In Byzantium, then, eunuchs clearly were able to fill religious roles as clergy
and monks (sometimes simultaneously), and could even be recognised as holy.
There was a positive perception of eunuchs which could be deployed to justify
these spiritual positions, though it flew in the face of a co-existing hostile attitude.
Despite official concerns regarding castration, in Byzantium parents and relatives
could imbue their castration of prepubertal kin with a religious significance.
Is pic related supposed to be a man?
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seething lol
western values are homosexuality and tranny mental illness
sneedthe
Christianity itself is mental illness and trannies.
And the glorious Orthodox Church had such values for even longer
Eunuch
Says the Byzantine gayreek
Old Orthodox hymns essentially predict modern Russia.
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I personally prefer the Oriental churches, and even the Church of the East.
That's what I'm saying. Begome Miaphysite.
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way better, in my experience. not affirming chalcedon spared them from retarded autism like the drivel in this thread
>Pope answers to no one
True, but nobody also cares about what he says and does besides non european catholics, and american protestants to say that the pope is the anticrhist
The pope is under the influence of powerful individuals. The same people who put Biden, Trump, etc in power.
God put them all in power.
Dont think he put garden gnomes in power. Whore of Babylon arrayed in purple and scarlet sounds any bells?
Trump was supposed to loose. They fucked up bad, which is why they unleashed Covid.
Result in 2022: catolicism is dead and orthodoxy well alive.
>Accepts his execution
>Makes no attempt to fight back whatsoever
Nothing about Jesus inspires heroism, unless you think letting yourself get executed is heroic.
>Dying to save humanity and fulfill prophecy
>Going into hell and the underworld
>Preaching to spirits in the underworld
>Emptying out Abraham's Bosom
>Taking the keys to death and hell from Satan
>Rising again
>Being given all power in Heaven and Earth
orthodogs are proto protestants
I think you up to something. We now have a language that is now called Church-Slavic. Orthodox Christians in those times read prayers in their own tongue.
Catholics have very strong phylophical base though. And protestants have strong and very appealing practical ideology, I think.
I would go so far that you might combine that and that may give some renaissance of Christianity.
Orthodox still use archaic liturgical languages that people have difficulty understanding: Koine Greek and Old Church Slavonic
You are wrong.
If only Catholic Priests could keep their dicks away from little kids, maybe everyone wouldn't have bailed on them.
I can't believe anyone would hold up that Gibsonesque torture porn as something to be proud of when there are so many lovely depictions of Christ. Submission is also, obviously, an important port of Christianity; as with all true religions, so to castigate Islam for it seems to me a soft form of blasphemy.
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>thank you for letting me exist mr sultan you are such a nice guy this will be displayed in the patriarchs office as a constant reminder of your kindness
cucks
serbs killed the ottomans at the end
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it’s not over
Turks are greeks larping as muslims
No. Ottomans are Greeks larping as Turks. They got mutted heavy and now Kurds are coming in. Turkey is like Puerto Rico or Brazil.
You literally put tranny cheerleader jean darc and don quixote as your champions of martial valor
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remember to burn your christ schizo before adding them as fertiliser to your crops
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>Posts the meme-"pope" because he does not like the actual head of his church
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>hate cathcucks
>hate orthodogs
>hate mudslimes
>hate abrahamfags
There are a lot of truths in this meme.
It's basically why I dislike "national catholicism" national catholicism turns the catholic church into something like the orthodox churches, a part of the national identity under the authority of the state.
Proper catholicism is international imperial or feudal, not national
tying religion to nationality always ends up like the garden gnomes rebelling against the Romans
Catholic is treated as an ethnicity in the USA. If you're Italian or Irish you identify as Catholic even if you don't go to Mass or believe the same things. This is why casual Catholics and Catholics who go to Mass each week are so different.
>It's basically why I dislike "national catholicism" national catholicism turns the catholic church into something like the orthodox churches, a part of the national identity under the authority of the state.
Proper catholicism is international imperial or feudal, not national
This was not the case in the early history of the church. Also catholicism might be international now but you can view the protestant revolution backlash as the split for the Western church, that so many chose to reject a distant Italian pope in favor of a more immediate religion is the argument for the failure of Christian internationalism.
>ortholarpers vs cathlarpers
If you're lurking here, don't take what you see in this thread as representative of either church. Both are filled with very holy people who love God. If you're curious about one or both, go to Mass or Liturgy in person and see how people who live in the faith act.