The openSUSE Slowroll distribution is a middle-ground between the rolling-release openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux distribution and the SUSE Linux Enterprise aligned openSUSE Leap with its fixed releases. The new openSUSE Slowroll is a rolling-release-like distribution with updates "every one or two months" but with constant bug/security fixes.
The openSUSE Slowroll is currently available in experimental form via new ISOs or upgrading from Leap/Tumbleweed via replacing the repositories in use.
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll
>ubuntu but with yast and working KDE
based krauts
>yast
>KDE
nobody uses these. tranny distro
Slightly better Debian testing GAY and HOPPED
>Leap
Thought they were ditching leap for something else?
This is that friend. Either that or you upgrade to regular tumbleweedAKR
There's the ALP project but the definitive successor and future of Leap hasn't been decided yet afaik
I thought this was a middle point project between Leap-style and Tumbleweed, with ALP being the likely Leap successor
ALP is currently server only with no plans for the desktop version.
When I was active on /r/openSUSE the messaging seemed to indicate that ALP was to be the successor platform, but it seems to be a whole mess https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/1681xqg/leap_replacement_insights_from_latest_polling/
I just installed Leap on a server but at least I'll get over a year of support on that one
I'm a opensuse user since 2017. This is a so awful name that I refuse to even test that.
It sounds like a fat stoner chilling on the floor.
Somewhat interested
It's been a week and there's these 2 packages I have to keep preventing from updating because it keeps giving me a warning that the newer versions are not from packman but first party
I just ditched Packman because of this. The codec situation with openSUSE is a major annoyance imo.
Isn't --vendor-change suppose to prevent that?
It won't switch automatically but there might be dependency conflicts. Packman is always a little behind the repos which can cause that sort of issues
Doesn't the VLC repo also have the codecs, have you tried switching to that?
I'm a different anon. Yes it has codecs but I think it's more limited to VLC use, whereas Packman has all the codecs you'd want. It's a messy situation. I got annoyed by the repo mismatch and just went with flatpak mpv, VLC and Firefox. Flatpaks come with the codecs.
libdca0 and libvo-amrwbenc?
if so, just install them from the opensuse repo (vendor change)
see
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/changing-vendors-on-update/168942/17
I don't see much of a point for a middle solution between Leap and Tumbleweed
>middle solution between Leap and Tumbleweed
There won't be leap in the future, because suse has realized that they are putting a lot of effort into this for a very small user base. So it's either no replacement at all, or some half-assed shit like this slowroll idea.
Read the whole comment my man
Rolling distros like Tumbleweed or Arch can be a pain if you don't update regularly, because they don't support partial upgrades. So, if you don't update for some time, and try to install something from the repos, it can end breaking some programs on the system, because if the program being installed depends on a new version of a dependency of another program already installed, it'll will try to update that dependency and can break the program installed. This happened to me on Arch. Fixed release LTS distros are a pain because sometimes a very old package can become a problem if you want/needs to use a new version. Fixed release distros with a six-month release cycle like Ubuntu or Fedora are also shit, because you have to do a big upgrade from time to time, and it sometimes breaks something. A rolling distro not upgrade constantly is something good for those that don't want to update every week, but also don't want to use fixed release distros.
I've always wondered why nobody seems to have put out a distro that's rolling release, but is also stable, i.e. based on older more mature packages but no fixed point release.
Indeed, point release distros are not even really safer in the long run. Upgrading to a new release is so dangerous that some distros like Mint straight up recommended against them. That it's safer to just do a clean install. Rolling release is better but it's always so bleeding edge that it breaks just for that reason. Slowroll with snapshots sounds like the endgame distro.
literally fedora
You can easily go a month without updating TW and apparently some have gone a year between snapshots and it was fine
>some have gone a year between snapshots and it was fine
When you want to install a package on Tumbleweed or Arch after a year of not updating, does it install a version of a package from a year ago? If it does, I'd be impressed. If it doesn't, then you'll eventually end up with incompatible dependencies and will be forced to update.
Of course it doesn't, but I was thinking of a situation where someone just didn't want to update as often
Someone not wanting to update doesn't necessarily mean someone won't want to install something in-between updates.
>Rolling distros like Tumbleweed or Arch can be a pain if you don't update regularly, because they don't support partial upgrades.
Which distro supports partial upgrades?
>Which distro supports partial upgrades?
From the ones I tried, Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora and openSUSE Leap. Probably other Ubuntu and Debian derivatives support too.
I think you're straight up lying, buddy guy
Then you're retard, never tried one of those distros or doesn't even know what is a partial upgrade. Maybe all three.
What a fucking waste of time. Just focus on Tumbleweed.
>Released
This one is basically one dude trying to make it a thing at the moment, don't treat it as something that's already happened.
I was close to switching to openSuse, but eventually decided against it, because of the massively fucked up situation with their release cycle, then they announced to put millions into maintaining a RHEL compatible CentOS fork (is your own enterprise solution inferior?), and then i saw the total vaxtard comments of SuSe employees who demand a lockdown and more vaxxes now in 2023 in the most vile way imaginable.
So i will pass, and i will never use a suse product.
Tumbleweed is rolling on just fine but the stabler release thing is uncertain. Though with 15.6 coming out (apparently) it will be fine for quite a while, with 15.5 being supported till December 2024 and 15.6 obviously longer
>the messaging seemed to indicate that ALP was to be the successor platform, but it seems to be a whole mess
It seems to me that SUSE wants to remove as much of the resources they spend on the desktop parts as possible, but they don't want people to dunk on them like do with red hat, so they're being very ambiguous and wishy-washy about their messaging instead of saying it directly.
This.
But it's even worse than RedHat. They cuck their users far more. They are just dishonest about it.
>no Fedora equivalent
Fedora has a release cycle where a Release N will go EOL four weeks after Release N+2 releases. So you can skip every second update if you want to. You can choose between a 6 (7)months or a 12 (14) months release cycle with one single distro.
>Tumbleweed is a Rawhide equivalent (and i would never use Rawhide either)
>no CentOs equivalent (they will waste resources maintaining a CentOs fork, but that is RHEL based, not SuSe based)
>Leap was a middle thing between Fedora and CentOs, but will be discontinued
>ALP is container shit
>Slowroll is really weird and looks like a completely automated distro
Basically Tumbleweed, but packages that don't have a CVE marked will be queued up and published at a defined bimonthly date.
Tumbleweed is great though
>then they announced to put millions into maintaining a RHEL compatible CentOS fork (is your own enterprise solution inferior?)
brainlet, it's an easy way to take RH's existing customers.
Surely enterprise customers are going to switch from the industry standard to the chink knock-off distro from a company that's so unsure in their own existing offering, they decided to copypaste their rival's distro instead. You're as delusional as some retarded manager at suse.
You make a fair point, but unfortunately humans are not all as rational as you are. Plenty of people, including executives and so-called solutions architects, love hopping on the "red hat le bad" train and SUSE is just cashing in on it, pretty much for free.
>Plenty of people, including executives and so-called solutions architects, love hopping on the "red hat le bad"
What makes you think that fucking soulless executives would see what redhat did as a bad thing? They probably approve if anything.
Once again, you are looking at things rationally - not everyone does. Far from everyone understood what Red Hat even did and whether or not it even mattered. If you googled "red hat" back in June/July, you'd get a load of controversy/drama articles and clickbait videos. If your company deals with Red Hat, this looks bad on you. In that moment you're likely to go on damage control and switch providers.
>I was close to switching to openSuse, but eventually decided against it, because of the massively fucked up situation with their release cycle
Same here. They make it sound like their enterprise offering is supported for 15 years or some shit, but in fact their "minor" releases break all compatibility imaginable every 2 or so years and you only get 6 or so months to upgrade before EOL (I pulled the numbers out of my ass but the point is if you just want to install a distro and forget about it for a decade, you'll want Ubuntu or Red Hat instead).
There is still this experiment but nothing has really surfaced of it yet
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:ALP/ArchitectureTeam#Experiment_2:_Linarite
I might actually go for MicroOS for my next server. Seems pretty solid
Shut up and take my money!
Seriously. That's literally the distro I always wanted. I use tumbleweed currently but I rarely upgrade because I'm lazy and it's just impossible to keep up with the daily releases. Monthly-ish releases sound absolutely perfect.
>The openSUSE Slowroll distribution is a middle-ground between the rolling-release openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux distribution and the SUSE Linux Enterprise aligned openSUSE Leap with its fixed releases. The new openSUSE Slowroll is a rolling-release-like distribution with updates "every one or two months" but with constant bug/security fixes.
sounds quite based
Interesting, tbh I don't see much value in this over just using TW and updating once a month or so, which is what I do. In some ways it seems worse. What if the snapshot they settle with has an annoying bug or a glitch? Then you're stuck with that until the next snapshot comes which takes months. Rolling back in this situation takes you too far to the past so it's worse than TW in this regard.
Fix codecs homosexuals.
works on my machine
Anyone tried it yet? Does it work or still a work in progress?
My issue with TW isn't the number of updates they push, it's the number of mass rebuilds and how updates are handled. They do mass rebuilds every single time a core component is updated like gcc or glibc, and you update as if you were doing a distribution upgrade.