OOOHHHHHH WAGIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
BETTER HURRY UP AND GET A JOB BEFORE WE LOWER THE STARTING PAY EVEN MORE
OOOHHHHHH WAGIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. BETTER HURRY UP AND GET A JOB BEFORE WE LOWER THE STARTING PAY EVEN MORE
OOOHHHHHH WAGIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
BETTER HURRY UP AND GET A JOB BEFORE WE LOWER THE STARTING PAY EVEN MORE
Their starting wage wasn't enough already holy shit lmao, I would be suicidal if I was a walmart wagie. They have food stamp programs and this was started years ago. Now they're cutting the already shit pay?! Damn I'd be suicidal.
Is it illegal immigration?
>Their starting wage wasn't enough already holy shit lmao
it's fine, you'll need roommates though
so in the span of roughly 70 years we went from being able to buy a house on minimum-wage, to having to split a two bedroom apartment with four roomates. according to you this is fine.
min wage is more than enough, a real robot would know this. You're a failed normie from the middle class suburbs. oh no how will I afford to go clubbing this weeking!!! these wages are so unfair
It is if you live in the countryside, provided jobs are available. forget about living in or near any medium sized to major city, you wouldn't be able to afford the rent to live there.
>you wouldn't be able to afford the rent to live there.
middle class spoiled failed normies. There's plenty of cheap places to live but you won't find it on zillow. Lots of grandmas living in apartments with spare rooms for a robot to live in for $500 next to major cities. But like most failed normies that come here oh no that's too oppressive, i can't afford to pay the pet fee for my heckin cat move back with my parents no they won't let me smoke muh weed blah blah. Living is cheap, your vices are not. A robot is almost like a monk, you just need home for showering and sleeping, spend most of your time in a library and work and you don't need more
you wouldn't be able to afford the toilet paper you need to wipe your ass, nor food to eat. it's either rent or food if you're on a min wage nowadays, the former has to be subsidized, or come with 4-8 roommates or you're on the streets. vices? forget it, you couldn't afford a pack of smokes on a min wage supporting yourself. average rent in my city is 2k a month, if you want to live on your own. with roommates average is 800 a month. grandmas living in their apartments who will rent out to robots? bro what world do you live in, because it's not Earth. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just trying to bait people, or you're some NEET who never worked a job much less min wage before, but what you described would have been possible 8-10 years ago.
just checked, it's up to 2800-3k average a month for rent in a one bedroom apartment now. even I'm starting to get out of touch with how expensive housing is becoming . I would hate my life if I was still working min wage.
For the past 10 years my rent for 1b 1ba 788sqft apt in a nice neighborhood in Cincinnati ohio hovered between $700 to $800 but that was before the pandemic. Now I'm in a house for free and have it all to myself minus a cat lol. I just pay utilities. 988 sq ft, 3 b 1 ba, has a basement.
fucking sweet, I like to see you winning
I thank my mom for owning the house and my brother for moving out after his husband died. We had to fix it up and make sure there were no herion needles around though. Brother is clean. He also remarried Conviently left that part out.
from living here, the house also had to be exorcised which just involved fixing it up and sitting with it a while. I'm either schizophrenic, spiritually sensitive empath, or both. My kinda ex could sense something died in the basement. I told her it was a dog which I carried up the stairs. poor guy. One of our cats died here too,
>afford the toilet paper you need to wipe your ass, nor food to eat.
false, and that's just the reductive view. There's thing like phone plan and internet, miscellaneous items as well but overall min wage is WAY more than enough to cover all this especially if you're working at walmart.
>it's either rent or food
stop looking at zillow, lots of informal living arrangements that the robot is more than used to. A small closet room with shared bathroom is very affordable. But you don't consider this because it's so far below your middle class standards.
>or come with 4-8 roommates
that's what I said before, you make it said bad. It literally fine and more usually 2-3.
>forget it, you couldn't afford a pack of smokes
good, robots don't do drugs. I hope you can't afford alc or weed or video games either. You don't need that junk
>average rent in my city is 2k a month, if you want to live on your own.
you don't deserve to live on your own, that's the whole point. min wage is enough for living, not your luxury. Face it, the economy doesn't reward your kind anymore.
>bro what world do you live in, because it's not Earth
a shoebox apartment shared with 3 other people, I don't have my own room. it's shared with 2 other beds
> I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're
like I told you before, frugal robots are set. We didn't grow up in your spacious room in the suburbs around a cul de sac and that is never coming back for yoU! Now you'll have to live like the rest us have been for years that you overlooked.
sorry I don't want to live like a rat, I have standards and I will not live in a closet. I'm at least glad you thought it through though and aren't talking out of your ass, but I'm not living with a bunch of pajeets in a closet with no windows or door. three beds in one room? that's a joke. my current situation of working two full-time jobs while living in my own apartment is preferable. you're proposing some WEF wetdream klaus schwab shit. no thank you.
>sorry I don't want to live like a rat,
I know that you don't want to live like a rat, my argument is that you won't have any choice soon 🙂
>that's a joke
I was born into poverty but now it means nothing to me to live this way. But I will not change it even now that I work like middleclass people even if I've called a workaholic, a bore, weird for not walking to have $15 lunches or accumulating debt obligations because "you're supposed to".
>you're proposing some WEF wetdream klaus schwab shit.
I'm not proposing, I'm reading the writing off the wall. It's what they forecast, not me. You people merely ignore it and pretend as if it isn't gradualing becoming real each year. Look at what they're doing to your home insurances given the risk of climate crisis, going up up up, same for your property taxes, up up up. I don't have that, I take the bus, I walk a lot. Let's see how the office robert can pay for his second audi's monthly once the next round of layoffs come thru
I'm leaving the country before that happens, my man. I'm not a wasteful idiot with a mortgage either that I wouldn't be able to keep up with due to rising interest rates. It's not a crime to live with standards, and I want to be the one to tell you that although you grew up in learned helplessness, that you deserve to live with dignity too. you don't have to accept living like a cockroach. I know I don't, and I never will. you shouldn't give up your spirit so easily, conceding to globalist economic tyranny. I have a choice and I choose to live with my head held high, even if I have to work like a dog. I will look back in pride. I won't give that up, and you shouldn't either.
we share a lot more in common than not, also growing up in poverty I've learned to not be wasteful with spending. I know where the world is heading but I'm not going to live the way Klaus Schwab wants, I have hope in a brighter future for myself.
>It's not a crime to live with standards,
it's not a crime, just unrealistic today. I'm not a NEET, I understand the economy very very well.
https://www.wsj.com/economy/central-banking/why-higher-unemployment-is-good-news-now-d1d033f
>Why Higher Unemployment Is Good News Now
you should read the papers that you overlords read as well.
>I know I don't, and I never will
I'm not so sure anon, the majority of the current labor force will not fare well, many and I will assume you are refusing to readjust to live within your project earning. The pandemic destroyed the white collar jobs just like they did the blue collar job decades ago. Not you're getting replaced any time soon by a Math PhD in Pakistan but that is definitely factoring into how bad layoffs can be.
>I have hope in a brighter future for myself
but what if you have no desire for anything more? why should I share any solidarity when I was forced to live the zero sum game. Instead of partying I was forced to study in the worse of conditions that I don't need more. It was either break or adapt, I don't believe you when you mention you grew up in poverty when ever kid from the suburbs call themselves growing up poor while going to disney land watching cable tv, having brand name ketchup and on and on.
I grew up in government housing, far from any suburbs. I went through the grind. I desire more, if you don't cool. Never want to disney land. All of my food was off-brand, I had to go to food banks. The only difference between us is I'm optimistic and ambitious. As soon as standards drop to the point where life becomes unbearable I will leave the country for the 2nd world, simple. I stand to gain from my current situation for the simple fact I'm able to save most of my money from my second job, I already have family situated in a couple different countries I can escape too once the west really goes down the drain. and I know you're not a NEET.
>I grew up in government housing,
so we are similar if you're not lying.
>I desire more
what good is desiring more if the middle class spat you out. I tried to be "normal" but because I didn't get the references watching Game of Thrones or the Office, because I didn't go on summer cruises, because I didn't pull out a nintendo switch to play games in the middle of the day I'm wear and so the cliche always form around me. It is a crime to have grow up poor, you're an forever an outsider. But that's fine, I accept my sentence. What do I do instead? I work more, while they check social media every 5 minutes I'll work harder and harder. Sweet talk the manager. They lay go the grifters every time because the manager knows I'll take up the extra workload and I won't ask for more pay. When the grifters go around trying to unionize, I won't sign their silly petition. That only works at jobs like Fedex where workers will haze each other into accepting but that doesn't work in an office environment. oh no there goes the signers, corporate got rid of them and look I'm still left willing to do the work but not the others. They're forced to give up because the work is just too much. I stand to gain from my current situation, there's less middle class people mocking me for being frugal. It's me, the prized employee better than those from pakistan, no need to do paperwork for H1B visas when there's me already here doing just what was needed. The west can go down the drain and it'd be same old for me
>I'm optimistic and ambitious.
I am very optimistic because I look forward to the greater and greater automation that comes. By the time I've automated (they won't, I reskilled enough to blend with the silicon not to replaced by it) I will have peace then while everyone is learning for the first time, what poverty really means
The pandemic did afford me the opportunity to take more work, I'm familiar with the normals taking frequent vacations, and have been promoted by management because no one else can or is willing to do the work. automation will come for me too but it will take a while since I diversified my skillset across different industries, it's never been hard for me to secure a job. not many middle class people are used to this level of adversity, so it's easy for us to weather the storm. I remember having to wagon groceries home, and how kids at school made fun of me for it. wearing clothes from the thrift store, shoes from walmart etc. but I was never ashamed to be living within my means. I aim for more always, not because I want to fit in with the other normals but because I want to take their stuff for myself. I see myself as more deserving of success than them and the world has responded in kind with more opportunities, even through an economic recession like the one my country is going through right now.
>grandmas living in their apartments who will rent out to robots?
he's talking about people who own homes renting rooms to tenants. they're very common in my area and insanely affordable, average cost each month for a room is around $350 in my area.
the cheaper ones are set up like this:
>house, some tenants depending on num of rooms
>owner has the entire top or bottom floor, other floor is rented
>get a bedroom, share kitchen, laundry, etc with other tenants
then there are more expensive ones, usually around $450-550 a month set closer to a studio apartment
>get your own room
>it has a tiny kitchen, private bathroom, small living area and a sleeping area
>share laundry machines with other tenants
$550 sounds expensive for what's basically a very large bedroom converted into a studio, but places listed as a studio apartment with a similar square footage in an apartment complex usually go for $750-800 where i live.
i don't live in a major city like NYC or LA, but i do live in the second largest city in my state, so it's not like this is a rural or suburban thing.
>Minimum wage is more then enough
Sure if you live without rent in your parents house. Otherwise minimum wage ain't shit
you're talking to a guy who lives without rent in his parents home.
The employees don't make enough at walmart to survive, like half of them are on food stamps. We subsidize their business while giving them tax cuts. Disaster.
i dont get why all the commies want to raise minimum wage. minimum wage, as it is, is literally a government salary, which isn't that what the commies want?
like, doesn't commie jesus say: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
so, the government decided that, if your ability is that you can work at walmart, then your pay according to your needs is minimum wage.
quite literally, every time a commie opens their mouth about "muh $15" they're basically calling themselves a hypocrite.
the government set the wage, and if your ability is that of a minimum wage employee then you get the payment of a minimum wage employee. it's not hard to understand.
explain the people who have been working at walmart for decades and are still alive. go ahead, i'm waiting commie boy.
Minimum wage is a scam. If it was abolished and illegals were actually kicked out of the country, the market minimum wage would go way above $15. As of right now the corporations can just pay minimum wage to workers and the workers won't be mad at the company, they'll shift their blame to the government for not "raising the heckin minimum wage". Also as mentioned illegals are the biggest reason for wage stagnation but people aren't ready to have that conversation. The establishment and NPC class has decided that western countries need to be daycares for third worlders.
>Minimum wage is a scam. If it was abolished and illegals were actually kicked out of the country, the market minimum wage would go way above $15
Except it already did. In my state the minimum wage was $11 when Walmart raised their pay to $15 and $17 for cashiers and CAP2 / OGP respectively. They just decreased it however to $14 and $16 because the minimum-wage is only $14.
>so just live like a pajeet with 5 roommates and don't do anything but work?
yea because that's the reality today for me and soon to be for the majority of you robots as soon as you parents pass away and they take away the reverse mortgaged home.
>are we going to forget that a person with a normal job could raise a family of children comfortably 40-50 years ago?
the economy was sold out a while ago, I'm not denying this. Automation is also making it that it's not coming back even as we reshore industries from China. The average person is never going to have the purchasing power of 40-50 years ago and you people keep coping instead of adapting. Watch Onions green, people sleeping in hallways and stairwells might very well be a reality but you people keep coping as if you deserve a whole McMansion for doing nothing
hey if you butcher your credit score and get rid of all your savings, you might be eligible for a mortgage thanks to bidenomics.
unfortunately, you will be punished with higher rates if you have a good credit score and a lot of money saved up.
just a thought, maybe you should become a consoomer and get rewarded for it.
>Onions green
?? what is that. is it onions or onions that you're typing? i hate filters because i just know that onions is going to appear as onions when i hit post.
>, you might be eligible for a mortgage
not getting a morgage, I've accepted my poverty living conditions for life. Rent from here on out only. Not getting punished for anything, only you middle class crabs will, righly so for kicking the ladder for everyone else in pursue of cheap return on investment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onions_Green
the 1973 movie. Rather than coping about dumb wages, there's bigger problems to focus on. If you can't live on min wage today, you're not surviving the coming decades when the climate crisis finally to starts to give in
>im going to burn my money and then blame the middle class
>if you cant survive now, then you wont survive when the climate crisis finally starts in 2 more weeks
>why do i say that? because skills from surviving on minimum wage will definitely transfer to surviving the apocalypse
>you middle class fucks will be scavenging for food whereas i will stay comfortably in my apartment and fat because of my food stamps
>just accept poverty, bro
>>im going to burn my money
assumption, I'm frugal to everything. Not wasting money on getting a house that will be empty all day. Now that I have a real job, I'm not going to sign up for le heckin golden handcuffs. I've worked from an office with my own cubicle to WFH but you people always demand higher wages as if you deserve it. I'm in agreement with OP, the people losing it over walmart cuts are hysterical because min wage is all you need and I don't share your solidarity over muh better work life balance, worker compensation. I once quit a job because it had a union. I'm not here looking to be a pencil pusher grifter like most people complaining about salaries who spend everyweekend drinking or at the smoke shop and so on. It's just wastefulness.
>because skills from surviving on minimum wage will definitely transfer to surviving the apocalypse
exactly so. Look at the people panicking because student loans are coming in due or the people living paycheck to paycheck, zero resilience.
>because of my food stamps
I don't qualify, but I get everything from walmart and never eat out
>when the climate crisis finally starts in 2 more weeks
It started long ago and this summer was suicide inducing. Hopefully the next few years won't be as bad at least.
I lasted 6 months working in walmart online grocery pickup, that shit was not worth the pay at all
>see my custom pepe being used
feels good man
Temp work through instawork dishwashing will net around $100 for an 8ish hour shift in Cincinnati. Choose your own hours and skate under the $1045 number for work trail on disability and there you go. Disability check is about $1.5k. Add an extra grand from work for the month and it's good enough for now. Hard part is finding shifts nearby and working work into my schedule between volunteering, doctor's appointments, and whatever else
How can you even justify lowering wages during an inflation crisis
>how can they justify
they don't have to to. they'll always be people desperate enough to accept the lower wages.
> OOOOOHHHH WAAAAAGGGIIIEEEE
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