ok so thousands of years ago the south pole was full of lush and shit... meaning that the corpses found there are gonna be with the technology of that era
is that why we arent allowed to go there???
ok so thousands of years ago the south pole was full of lush and shit... meaning that the corpses found there are gonna be with the technology of that era
is that why we arent allowed to go there???
more like millions of years ago
reptilians live in south pole,
>thousands
Try tens of millions.
>technology of that era
I'm not sure what technology you think ancient marsupials had.
>we arent allowed to go there???
https://adventuresmithexplorations.com/cruises/antarctica/
Nobody's stopping you from going there, its actually not even that expensive. good luck thinking you'll survive the elements though
nuclear power
That's not how nuclear power works anon.
Unattended reactors don't last long and even in use they only have operational lifespans of around 40 years.
This is putting aside the fact you think giant ground sloths can do more than MAYBE bashing rocks together.
mayans recognized that all that shit was there before them
a lot of buildings are buried in the amazons
not to mention the technology the mayas had (mathematical knowledge and such)
You do know Antarctica and Mexico are not the same place right?
The Mayans weren't in the Amazon, they were based in the Yucatan Peninsula.
Knowing math doesn't mean you can make a nuclear reactor... can you even explain how they work in simple terms?
>You do know Antarctica and Mexico are not the same place right?
i obviously know that, retart
what i meant was that architecture and math thus science (for metalworking was known, too) was already developed in america before the european invasion
i was being semi ironic with the nuclear thing, dumbass
Don't waste your time with debonkers.
However, the oldest alleged technology in Antarctica is those pyramids, right? Not exactly flying cars.
I think the more likely question is, what has been going on there recently? It's one giant black site.
>However, the oldest alleged technology in Antarctica is those pyramids, right? Not exactly flying cars.
pyramids are rumored to be connected with energy sources (might be linked to tesla, the theory i read said something about nodes and used piri reis map)
Then why are you talking about a civilization that wouldn't even know the landmass existed?
Anon, I know you're slow, but I want you to subtract 1492 from 2022 and report back the number; its most definitely not in the millions.
>I was only pretending to be moronic
Sure you were.
8 RECONNAISSANCE TECHNICAL SQUADRON (SAC)
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE
Westover Air Force Base
Massachusetts
Reply to Attn of RTC
6 July 1960
Subject: Admiral Piri Reis World Map
To: Prof. Charles H. Hapgood
Keene Teachers College
Keene, New Hampshire
Dear Professor Hapgood,
Your request for evaluating certain unusual features of the Piri Reis World Map of 1513 by this organization has been reviewed.
The claim that the lower part of the map portrays the Princess Martha Coast of Queen Maud Land Antarctic and the Palmer Peninsula is reasonable. We find that this is the most logical and, in all probability, the map’s correct interpretation.
The geographical detail shown in the lower part of the map agrees remarkably with the seismic profile results made across the top of the ice cap by the Swedish-British-Norwegian Antarctic Expedition of 1949.
This indicates the coastline had been mapped before the ice cap covered it.
The ice cap in this region is now about a mile thick. We have no idea how the data on this map can be reconciled with the supposed state of geographical knowledge in 1513.
Harold Z. Ohlmeyer
Lt. Colonel, USAF
Commander
>Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings: Evidence of Advanced Civilization in the Ice Age
Charles H. Hapgood
>made up letter by the same guy who swore these 1960s clay figures were gorillions of years old
Lol lmao even
okay but you didnt disprove the piri reis map nor his affirmations
>made up letter
There's nothing to disprove since the letter is made up and Hapgood is a notorious fraudster who's only credentials are a masters in Medieval History and a failed Phd in the French Revolution.
As for the map; an actual expert in historical cartography looked at the map, Hapgood's moronic claims, and wrote a much better book that addresses the reasoning for why the map is so odd. https://www.amazon.com/Piri-Reis-Map-1513/dp/0820321575 His conclusions were:
>Much of it is copied from Columbus' writings
>Certain parts were doubles (the Virgin Islands for instance) because the maker copied from multiple maps and didn't know they were the same feature
>The Americas are very inaccurate as, much like the source material, it was drawn with the understanding it was the East Asian coastline
The map's depiction of Antarctica is flawed in several major ways:
>1. Its hundreds of kilometers north than it actually is
>2. The Drake Passage is completely absent
>3. The "Antarctic Peninsula" is actually the Patagonian coast
>4. The notes on the map for the region keep referring to it as a warm climate, just as the maps of South America at the time did. Not Antarctica.
The common association people have made with South America and Antarctica is just historically based ignorance on the Southern Hemisphere in general; nobody knew it even existed until James Cook's second circumnavigation in 1773. That's a whole 260 years AFTER the map was made.
>tl;dr: Hapsgood's a giant moron with a liberal arts degree and the map is copypasta written by Turks
parts were doubles (the Virgin Islands for instance) because the maker copied from multiple maps and didn't know they were the same feature
yes, anon
piri reis was a hack
LOL
imagine being this much of an npc "the academia says so, it must be true!" even if it goes against the evidence
>"disprove the piri reis map and his affirmations"
>Sure, he's exactly where he's wrong and why it shows what it does. I'll even be generous and link you the proof to confirm yourself.
>"n-n-no fair!!! you can't just give exactly what i asked for!!! NPC!"
I just gave solid evidence-backed reasoning for why the map doesn't depict Antarctica; don't cry and resort to ad hominem when I give you what you asked for.
You scream "muh academia" when your only source is a liberal art major who's writings have only inspired copycats that think the Americas were discovered by the goddamn Chinese; this writer isn't backed by anybody except what he can tangibly prove.
>Sure, he's exactly where he's wrong and why it shows what it does. I'll even be generous and link you the proof to confirm yourself.
theres no proof in your post, only affirmation which you believe because you think that a degree = total, infallible and omniscient knowledge
youre so ignorant its no wonder theyve had such an easy time modifying history
Black I linked the proof, can you not read? Are you incapable of reading past one sentence? You won't even share the source for this made up letter you kept spamming yet I'm the one without proof?
Yes, between an actual expert on historic cartography and a fiction writer with a masters in liberal arts, I'm going to lean towards the one who knows what the frick he's talking about. You don't turn to a plumber when your power is out and you don't turn to a mechanic when your tooth is infected do you?
And no, I never said they were any of that. Instead of strawmanning perhaps actually read the points presented and do your own conclusion.
Anon with oxygen thieves like yourself its a miracle we haven't regressed into the type of inbred prevalent amongst modern Ottomans today.
>Yes, between an actual expert on historic cartography and a fiction writer with a masters in liberal arts
except you just said piri reis was a literal who just a couple posts ago
so you dont really care about expertise, you just wanna discredit something you dont believe in by attacking the messenger while completely avoiding the topic itself
get educated and then try to debunk something, youre only wasting your time
Anon, the maker of the map never said it was Antarctica. The fiction writer did. Nowhere does it even say anything like "that one super cold place covered in ice".
Holy shit you really cannot read.
I'm not basing dismissal of your tard theory on how unreliable the source is, that's a lazy argument. I gave irrefutable evidence to what the mapmaker was actually depicting; for fricks sake man there's an elephant in West Africa on that map.
>"yer ignorant"
Easy there MJ, I'm sorry facts don't care about your feelings and you interpret anything to the contrary of those as personal attacks but I do agree that speaking with you is a waste of time. And besides its not like your fringe opinion does anything substantial nor are you likely going to influence society on a downward spiral of similar brainrot.
>"unless you rotate it 90* and show the little bit extra that reinforces the fact its the americas, it doesn't count!"
If anything you're demonstrating how severe your autism is. That's still South America, the West Indies, and the West Coast of Africa.
>Anon, the maker of the map never said it was Antarctica.
the map is literally handwritten, dumbass
shut the frick up, youve done nothing but post useless shit while pretending youre debunking something
Are you ESL? Point to where it calls it Antarctica on the map right now then.
oh my fricking god, im gonna copy paste once just to prove how fricking moronic you are
https://www.bbva.com/es/mapa-piri-reis-misterio-resolver/
>Sin embargo, hay numerosos datos a los que Piri Reis no podría haber accedido a través de ninguna fuente colombina. El ejemplo más claro y extraño es el dibujo preciso de la Antártida, que aparece perfectamente delimitada y desprovista de hielo. Se puede observar el perfil de la costa en dientes de sierra con el mismo contorno que tiene en la actualidad bajo el hielo glaciar.
However, there is much data that Piri Reis could not have accessed through any Columbian source. The clearest and strangest example is the precise drawing of Antarctica, which appears perfectly delimited and devoid of ice. You can see the profile of the coast in saw teeth with the same contour that it has today under the glacial ice.
I'm going to assume you're either ESL or just mentally handicapped so I'll break this down for you
Something being handwritten (you mean drawn by hand) means it was done by hand. It does not mean what some later person said it is. If I draw picture of your mom, that's a picture of your mom; you can compare the photos she sends me and see for yourself.
Now if later some person sees my hand drawn depiction of your mother and says "oh that's actually a whale/pig/toilet/hole" well that's simply their interpretation of it. Its not the right one but its most certainly not what I've said or even implied it to be.
Its a drawing of your mother even if others see her as something else. Does that make sense?
So exactly what I just said: its nothing the maker of the map has said or suggested but merely an interpretation by people who don't know what they're looking at.
You're using sensationalist MSM articles to reinforce the fact you cannot think for yourself and recognize grade school geography; maybe you actually are an actual tard. You do know West Africa isn't next to Antarctica right? Have they shown you a world map in whatever special needs class you attend?
>Something being handwritten (you mean drawn by hand) means it was done by hand. It does not mean what some later person said it is. If I draw picture of your mom, that's a picture of your mom; you can compare the photos she sends me and see for yourself.
the map literally describes the land
youre ignorant and just saying shit to derail the thread, youve been proven wrong time and again, enjoy being ignored.
>the map literally describes the land
to where it calls it Antarctica on the map right now then.
No it "litchurlly" didn't, you copied a media article instead of any actual text from the map. Don't be a liar and cry when nobody buys your bullshit.
>"yer ignorant"
Kek you weren't supposed to actually use that as an argument.
You've demonstrated you are incapable of thinking beyond MSM, fiction writers, and your own inability to recognize geography.
I'm not sorry that you're upset by words, cope and seethe in peace.
also your image doesnt even have the whole map, you clearly dont know what youre talking about
Word salad.
Keep working on the AI.
remnants from the age of leo? contradictions against the memorization camps.
8 RECONNAISSANCE TECHNICAL SQUADRON (SAC)
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE
Westover Air Force Base, Mass.
14 Aug 61
Mr. Charles H. Hapgood
Keene Teachers College
Keene, N.H.
Dear Professor Hapgood:
It is not very often that we have an opportunity to evaluate maps of ancient origin. The Piri Reis (1513) and Oronteus Fineaus [sic] (1531) maps sent to us by you presented a delightful challenge, for it was not readily conceivable that they could be so accurate without being forged. We accepted this challenge with added enthusiasm and have expended many off-duty hours evaluating your manuscript and the above maps. I am sure you will be pleased to know we have concluded that both of these maps were compiled from accurate source maps, irrespective of dates. The following is a brief summary of our findings:
The solution of the portolano projection used by Admiral Piri Reis, developed by your class in Anthropology, must be very nearly correct, for when known geographical locations are checked about the grid computed by Mr. Richard W. Strachan (MIT), there is remarkably close agreement. Piri Reis’ use of the portolano projection (centered on Syene, Egypt) was an excellent choice, for it is a developable surface that would permit the relative size and shape of the earth (at that latitude) to be retained. We believe that those who compiled the original map had an excellent knowledge of the continents covered by this map.
As stated by Colonel Harold Z. Ohlmeyer in his letter (July 6, 1960) to you, the Princess Martha Coast of Queen Maud Laud, Antarctica, appears to be truly represented on the southern sector of the Piri Reis map. The agreement of the Piri Reis Map with the seismic profile of this area made by the Norwegian-British-Swedish Expedition of 1949, supported by your solution of the grid, places beyond a reasonable doubt the conclusion that the original source maps must have been made before the present Antarctic ice cap covered the Queen Maud Land coasts.
Our opinion that the accuracy of the cartographic features shown in the Oronteus Fineaus [sic] Map (1531) suggests, beyond a doubt, that it also was compiled from accurate source maps of Antarctica, but in this case of the entire continent. Close examination has proved the source maps must have been compiled at a time when the landmass and inland waterways of the continent were relatively free of ice. This conclusion is further supported by comparing the Oronteus Fineaus [sic] Map with the results obtained by International Geophysical Year teams in their measurements of the subglacial topography. The comparison also suggests that the original source maps (compiled in remote antiquity) were prepared when Antarctica was presumably free of ice. The Cordiform Projection used by Oronteus Fineaus [sic] suggests the use of advanced mathematics. Further, the Antarctic continent’s shape suggests the possibility, if not the probability, that the original source maps were compiled on a stereographic or gnomic type of the projection (involving the use of spherical trigonometry).
We are convinced that the findings made by you and your associates are valid. They raise fundamental questions affecting geology and ancient history, questions that certainly require further investigation.
We thank you for extending us the opportunity to have participated in the study of these maps. The following officers and airmen volunteered their time to assist Captain Lorenzo W. Burroughs in this evaluation: Captain Richard E. Covault, CWO Howard D. Minor, MSgt Clifton M. Dover, MSgt David C. Carter, TSgt James H. Hood, SSgt James L. Carroll, and A1C Don R. Vance.
LORENZO W. BURROUGHS
Captain, USAF
Chief, Cartographic Section
8th Reconnaissance Technical Sqdn (SAC)
Westover Air Force Base, Massachusetts
> is that why we arent allowed to go there???
No it's because basically every country on Earth collectively agreed that they didn't want to fight pointless land grab wars over a frozen chunk of rock.