Ok so Reddit thinks trans stealth sex is rape now

Ok so Reddit thinks trans stealth sex is rape now
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  1. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    That's because it is under deception.

  2. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    it is though

  3. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Broken clock

  4. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no, I put my dick in a hole, out of my own free with and without any threat. Turns out the hole wasn't always there, this is literally rape

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's more like

      >Oh no, I put my dick in a hole full of spiders out of my own free will and without any threat. Why didn't the hole's owner tell me the hole was full of spiders? As an arachnophobe I am disgusted and scarred for life.

      Some people think human made vaginas are icky. You should respect that

  5. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you participate in degenerate hookup culture then this is what you fucking deserve. The entire point is to fuck someone without knowing hem or their backstory. I’ve fucked people before who I later learned were furries, commies, and what not. Knowing that I wouldn’t have fucked them but we still both gave consent in the moment

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Rapist logic but it’s not a surprise. This is why people treat troons so badly. You groomers deserve all of the hate.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        FYI I have always told people because I don’t want situations like in the OP because it’s bad optics and it’s less drama and I do think people should know. It’s not rape though lmao!

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          If it wasn’t rape, you wouldn’t get murdered for it in 2022. It’s rape by deception. Same emotional damage as all other forms of rape. Thus the violent reaction.

          • 5 days ago
            15chan

            >If it wasn’t rape, you wouldn’t get murdered for it in 2022.

            if a white-passing black woman gets murdered by her partner in the 19th or early 20th century when he finds out she has black heritage, that means she raped him? him murdering her is proof she's a rapist?

            no she's just getting white dick the only way she can in this racist world, nobody is judging white-passers retroactively.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >also promotes race mixing
              You homosexuals are so deranged it's unreal

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                >white-passing
                doesn't exist, afroid sheboons are always clockable as not white

                >white passing black women
                At this point I'm convinced trannies should be considered legally blind
                There is no way anyone is this retarded

                I'm white-passing chicana with black heritage dumbasses.

                Miscegenation was illegal during that period so both would be guilty of a crime

                even more reason to kill her, maybe he knew beforehand and still killed her like many trans panic cases today. can't let his ytoid wife and neighbors and abusive father find out.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >chicana
                white

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                who is it

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >white-passing
              doesn't exist, afroid sheboons are always clockable as not white

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                You autistic fucks really need to touch grass

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                They'd rather sit inside and imagine fake scenarios where they get to fuck a transwoman and then turn around and cry about being raped lol

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >white passing black women
              At this point I'm convinced trannies should be considered legally blind
              There is no way anyone is this retarded

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              No, because that’s not rape by deception. He wanted a female, get got a female. Everyone knows all humans are mixed. It’s the way evolution works. Also his scenario would never happen because humans always tell people what race and religion they are. Only troons have zero human pride, and try to hide what they are.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, he wanted a WHITE female you fucking mutt.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                He’s a mutt himself, pure whites don’t exist since they left their quarantine lands. If he can’t tell she’s mixed he’s a retard, and no black female is not going to tell you she’s black. It’s literally the first thing people tell you. No one hides their race, or their religion. They brag and advertise it openly like a tattoo. Your scenario doesn’t exist.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. That’s one of the main benefits of being able to get your DNA sequenced; there are still a lot of pure whites out there, even if they’re a blend of different Northern and Western European. Honestly people should be forced to disclose their sequencing info before sex.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Lol, cope from a “dying race” that produced you. A failed male who castrated himself and exists to trick white men out of breeding opportunities , while exposing them to monkey pox.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >all humans are mixed
                shit bait

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Science is not bait. You look nothing like your ancestors 2000 years ago.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Miscegenation was illegal during that period so both would be guilty of a crime

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Imagining some macho white chud who finally got laid turning around and developing a victim complex because they found out the pussy they fucked was a transwoman's has got to be the most hilarious and pathetic thing ever. And then to act like it's equal to legitimately being raped lmfao. If anything is making you gay it's how much of a bitch you are.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              It’s the only scenario I would actually feel bad for him. Even he doesn’t deserve that. He deserves a bullet maybe. But rape too? That’s too far even.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I just find the idea that sleeping with a transwoman you didn't know was trans is the same as being forcefully raped, or has the same effects. What an asinine thing to say. Imagine getting pussy and turning around and bitching and moaning because you aren't secure in your sexuality. Very indicative of a whiny, petulant manchild.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                No one cares what you approve. That’s how the human brain deals with it. It’s rape. You freaks constantly act as if you aren’t even human. With your fake “surprise” at obvious fucking reactions.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Trust me, I'm not surprised by it. Most trans people know to expect most cis people to act like complete fucking retards. The idea of a super manly dude crying alone in his room because he fucked a neopussy and feels violated now is what amuses me. If you're that insecure in your sexuality then maybe you should do some exploring.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Then stop wasting your time arguing about it. You sound like an incel complaining that women like tall men. Yes, that’s how humans work. No shit. Nothing will change this behavior. It’s a core part of humans, not something more malleable.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Women can like whoever they want and so can men. But if you retroactively decide you didn't like having sex with someone it isn't rape lol. And I fuck pussy nightly because I can actually maintain a stable relationship unlike some of you psychotic fucks.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t care what you approve, you are an ultra minority, who will always be an ultra minority, who is allowed to exist by the whims of everyone else. You want to get yourselves wiped out. Go ahead, doesn’t effect 99.6% of everyone else on the planet. Adapt, die, whatever.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                What I approve? I'm not approving anything I'm stating simple fact. It isn't rape. Just because you have some bad post-nut clarity and feel emasculated because you had sex with a transwoman doesn't mean she raped you lol.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It’s rape by deception. Literally a thing rapehon.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It is rape. Most people think it is rape. That’s why no one cares when troons get murdered. We know it’s always for being rapey sex pests.

      Rapist logic but it’s not a surprise. This is why people treat troons so badly. You groomers deserve all of the hate.

  6. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It is rape. Most people think it is rape. That’s why no one cares when troons get murdered. We know it’s always for being rapey sex pests.

    • 5 days ago
      15chan

      so basically we just shouldn't have sex with cis people? at all?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You have to tell thrm you're a trannt you fucking idiot

        • 5 days ago
          15chan

          lol no I don't. I don't need to tell them I'm not white either.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            There will be laws for this soon same as you're legally required to tell them if you're HIV positive

            • 5 days ago
              15chan

              lol there will be laws against our existence soon. Roe v Wade was just overturned. I don't give a shit about the law anymore, the world is against us and always was.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Roe v Wade was just overturned
                How does this concern troons you can't get pregnant
                Or is your lust for dead babies that strong?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Fuel on the pyre. Conservatives tasted blood and are making moves to do more if their State didn't already have laws that kicked in after a Federal law no longer overrode it (see Texas). Bathroom bills and more are being discussed excitedly- they smell blood.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                you dont exist thought, trans and gay arent identities, they are perversions and perversions are not pride worthy or rights worthy. Good news is, everyone can repent.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >this fucking pathetic inferiority complex nonsense again
                Just don't fucking rape people. How is this hard for you to grasp? People like you SHOULDN'T exist.

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                >in the imaginary world in my head there are laws that make my fundamental existence illegal, therefore it is ok to rape people in the real world
                seek. help.

                it's not rape I already explained

                >If it wasn’t rape, you wouldn’t get murdered for it in 2022.

                if a white-passing black woman gets murdered by her partner in the 19th or early 20th century when he finds out she has black heritage, that means she raped him? him murdering her is proof she's a rapist?

                no she's just getting white dick the only way she can in this racist world, nobody is judging white-passers retroactively.

                and other people too

                If i fuck a guy who got hair transplants, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a bald guy
                If i fuck a guy who borrowed his boss’ maserati, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a brokie
                If i fuck a guy who lied about having a wife, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a married guy
                If i fuck a guy who lied about being good at video games, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a noob
                If i fuck a guy who has abs but he used to be fat, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a fat guy
                If i fuck a guy who didn’t tell me about his low credit score, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a guy with low credit score

                where do they want to draw the line?

                and I honestly think it's an insult to victims for you to say that shit. I hate rape and rapists, and moids who always defend their own when rape actually happens but there's no video proof, I have a thing about this more than almost anyone else on the board.

                >I don't give a shit about the law anymore
                >ever giving a shit in the first place

                I mean I guess I didn't. as long as it doesn't hurt people.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                i'm assuming you're autistic. you explained it in a way that only jives with other autists. return to society

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >in the imaginary world in my head there are laws that make my fundamental existence illegal, therefore it is ok to rape people in the real world
                seek. help.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't give a shit about the law anymore
                >ever giving a shit in the first place

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              The HIV laws are actually fair though.

              you can see in this follow-up image [...]
              that it's not just one redditor, it's the majority of them and this is on a "sex-positive" sub and extremely pro-LGBT website that they're saying it's rape

              lol. reddit is extremely transphobic in general

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Or just I don’t know tell them what you are before raping them?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        or, you know, try being honest with your potential sexual partners.
        i realize that honesty and integrity among trannies is basically unheard of, but give it a shot. you know, if you think you can break away from your busy routine of gaslighting and emotionally abusing your friends and family to justify your insane victim complex and disproportional need for attention.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        pretending to be retarded, what a good look. who do you think you're fooling? you're only giving us a bad name moron.
        i hate when trannies are tranpshobic and think they're better than other trannies but oh my god you're actually making me feel like that. fuck you.

  7. 5 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the sex i consented to was actually rape because of outside factors that had nothing to do with my choices or actions in the moment

  8. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >redditor posted something!
    >they have negative opinions about post op trannies!!
    >oh nooo

    why do you care:?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      you can see in this follow-up image

      that it's not just one redditor, it's the majority of them and this is on a "sex-positive" sub and extremely pro-LGBT website that they're saying it's rape

      • 5 days ago
        15chan

        >extremely pro-LGBT website

        lol stop. all of my irl friends know reddit as "that chud website".

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This. Nobody on here is retarded enough to get srs anyway

  9. 5 days ago
    w

    it might be unethical and dangerous because of hate crimes but i don’t think it’s rape
    the people obsessed with this topic aren’t the sort of people sleeping with anyone anyways, cis or trans

  10. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >she'd orgasmed during the piv and squirted in an unusually thick/forceful way that i hadn't seen in porn
    >that i hadn't seen in porn
    lol
    rofl
    lmao
    kek

    • 5 days ago
      w

      honestly makes me think this might be a larp or something
      idk that much about srs though i guess there could be some method that preserves that sort of thing

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think I took that in properly until now. Lord.

  11. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    This isnt new and, yes, your partners ought to know before the clothes come off. Mostly because you're looking for a certain set of genitalia before you go so far.

  12. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Most straight men think the same.

  13. 5 days ago
    noah

    >hookup with a guy
    >consent to have sex
    >leave satisfied
    >decide to look up his social media after cause im a stalker
    >he used to be a child
    >tfw he didnt disclose this to me
    >tfw im a pedophile now
    >the police are at my door
    fucking rapists

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >t. still an actual child

      • 5 days ago
        noah

        nah im 18 now, that's why i dont get banned anymore

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >on date with guy
      >he shows up in a fancy BMW
      >this guy's loaded, oh boy
      >go back to his place, have sex, enjoy myself
      >go our separate ways after that
      >look him up after the fact
      >turns out he only borrowed the car from his older brother, and he actually drives a dumpy old Corolla
      >my world falls apart
      >call the police through inconsolable tears
      >the operator tries to console me, tells me everything is going to be alright
      >I tell her everything... tell her that the bastard only drives a Honda
      >the phone operator goes silent for awhile
      >after a bit, she returns: "we're sending a SWAT team to the guy's house
      >hear about it later on the news
      >he's going to jail for the rest of his life
      >they tell me his Honda had a rusted out bumper with an old Ron Paul 2012 sticker on it
      >I don't care
      >all that I care about is that justice was served

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >fucking someone's inverted ball sack is the same as lying about what car you drive

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          It clearly wasn't a big deal, either way. The hypothetical guy couldn't even tell she was trans.

          you can't consent to something if you're not properly informed about it
          in which case a person can't legitimately consent to fucking a non-disclosing tranny
          so yes in both cases there's a lack of consent and therefore it's rape

          so if I am not attracted to buddhists, then have sex with someone whom I later figure out is buddhist, is that rape too? What if a guy lies about how big his dick is?

          • 5 days ago
            Pomegranate

            well no sweaty thats fine because muh sOcIeTy says its ok

  14. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >autogenerated username (Adjective_Noun_####)
    >There was also an unusual smell which made me want to finish and get out quickly
    >she'd orgasmed during the piv and squirted in an unusually thick/forceful way that i hadn't seen in porn
    I'm going with troll larp
    the responses are still disappointing

  15. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >consent to sex
    >have sex
    >regret it after the fact
    >HOLY SHIT I MUST'VE BEEN RAPED

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >be vegan
      >meet cute boy
      >he wants to cook for me
      >i tell him i'm vegan. he says ok!
      >consent to have dinner
      >have dinner
      >get home
      >stomach a bit upset. lactose intolerance?
      >think back to dinner- some things seemed like they could have actually been cheese instead of substitute...
      >ask boy
      >"oh yes, i used a lot of eggs and cheese and even some meat. i tricked you, i knew you were vegan but i did it anyway"
      >wtf
      >be mad. he's mad i'm mad.
      >AITA r*ddit???
      trannies are so far up their own asses with the victim complex shit that they see the above trickery as ok. everyone is just a prop for them to use in their emotional sad-sack narrative to buy victimization points so they feel justified in the absolutely shitty way they treat everyone around them.

      • 5 days ago
        15chan

        >i tell him i'm vegan. he says ok!

        you don't see how your food analogy breaks down right here? if a woman is clocky just ask.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          no, i don't, at all.
          first of all, "clockiness" is a completely subjective measure between individuals, cultures, subcultures, races, etc. you're all freaks about it and, as usual, expect someone to both recognize and ignore how "clocky" or "non-clocky" you are, so that way you can play the victim card regardless of what they do.
          secondly, if you're forming a relationship with a male, and you appear to be a female, any reasonable human would assume that you are a biological female. you're exploiting this prevailing assumption by being willfully ignorant of it, hoping they'll just come to the wrong conclusion and thus it won't be "your fault" because it's not "your fault" they didn't think to ask their potential partner the extremely inappropriate question of "hey you didn't used to be a man and get your dick cut off RIGHT?"
          but you're not really ignorant to the assumption, you're completely aware of it. you're choosing to ignore it to make yourself feel better and get dicked down. that is the deceit. you're hoping they don't challenge it. and if they did? you'd be just as fucking livid when they turned you down that they would have the gall to clock you and then deny you sex.

          but ok, i'll roll with it. here's an amended scenario for you.
          >be me, muslim girl in a muslim country
          >well-known almost everyone here avoids pork for well-known religious reasons
          >meet cute boy
          >he wants to cook for me
          >consent to have dinner
          >have dinner
          >get home
          >think back to dinner- i couldn't identify all the meat
          >ask boy what that dish was
          >"oh yes, i used a lot of pork in with the other meat. i know most of you avoid eating it but i added it anyway and didn't tell you"
          >wtf
          >be mad. he's mad i'm mad.
          >AITA r*ddit???
          there you go. i removed the affirmative informed consent step at the beginning since you trannies can't do informed consent, and i replaced it with an exploitative and willful ignorance of the prevailing expectations of one's culture and society.

          • 5 days ago
            15chan

            >"livid"

            as if I haven't been clocked and rejected for being trans, quietly or overtly. and every time I "understand", take it graciously, and cry and self-harm or get high at home like a self-respecting person. you're the ones who imagine we get angry. it's the same feeling as when I got kicked out of a female friend's house by her mom for being trans as a teenager. it's exclusion and it sucks platonically, romantically, and yes sexually altho I haven't had "real" sex. but I'm sure it also sucks. but any non-rapist, like us, would take it graciously and cry at home.

            >well-known almost everyone here avoids pork for well-known religious reasons
            >and i replaced it with an exploitative and willful ignorance of the prevailing expectations of one's culture and society.

            okay so you kind of successfully made it analogous here. it's "well-known" that the majority of people are transphobic. but then you're just suggesting we need to wait until the majority of people aren't transphobic. and then it becomes a question of why the number of people who have a positive or negative opinion of us as partners, should determine the morality of this?

            I mean you're right that that's what's gonna end up happening, we'll just wait until it's normalized and then I'll be too old to have sex.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >but then you're just suggesting we need to wait until the majority of people aren't transphobic.
              sure, but for the remaining ones who aren't transphilic, or until that time, you could just stop maintaining a willful ignorance of the fact that most straight cis men will only want to fuck cis women... and communicate about it early-on and genuinely like an adult.
              yes, rejection sucks, i'm sorry. i'm a cis gay male and i've also been rejected many times - with physical violence in some instances - by men i thought there was a budding emotional and possible romantic connection forming with. i obviously lack the ability to trick them into fucking me like a trans individual has, and if i had that ability i would fucking NEVER use it, that's so fucked up.
              tricking someone into fucking you will only ever deepen anti-trans and general anti-LGBT sentiment in the individual, and if you're hoping for more than a quick lay, is obviously an absolutely unacceptable foundation for a continued relationship.
              talk. like. an. adult.
              you won't always get what you want but when you do you'll have done it the right way.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            she did not get pork raped
            you seriously think that situation translated to a sexual encounter is rape?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >i did something to you without telling you
              >i know you most likely would not have wanted it to happen
              >but i didn't ask you first, thus you didn't say no
              >and you didn't tell me not to specifically do that, either, despite it being completely reasonable to assume that you would if you had thought of it
              >therefore what i did is ok
              >and you are not allowed to be upset by this
              >in fact, you must now let me do it again anytime i want

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                you're trying to say she was forced to eat pork
                she wasn't, she consented to eating meat
                the guy giving it to her wasnt malicious
                she can feel bad about it all she wants but she can't claim she was forced to eat the meat

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                she consented to eating dinner within a context where the prevailing assumption of any reasonable human would be that it would be extremely intolerable to consume pork. this assumption was exploited, willingly. the guy was absolutely malicious. he chose to ignore this well-known assumption and decide for himself, and by not asking or bringing it up, hoped she would simply not notice. this is deceit. 100% unethical.
                i never bought in to the bullshit "trans people are rapists" narrative because it's the same false narrative used against gays for decades, but you and this thread in general are working very hard to challenge that. extremely disgusting.
                for the record, as a gay male, i have zero issue with having a sexual, romantic, or other relationship with a trans man. i'm a top and i'm into masculinity and submission of masculinity, not cock - the rest is personality. but if a trans man somehow willingly hid their nature from me until after i fucked them, in some fucked up attempt to "gotcha" me like this, i would feel disgusted and used and would absolutely consider it a violation, of my trust and my body.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                maybe you should stop viewing it as someone trying to trick another and instead as someone engaging in consensual sex with their body
                theres no deception, a woman with a vagina is a woman with a vagina, if you dont like the vagina then stop consenting and stop having sex with them
                feeling gross afterwards because she has a y chromosome and then trying to call that rape is insane

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's a penis turned inside out. Some people find that gross.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                then retract your consent when youre grossed out
                if you learn later and get grossed out that doesnt make it rape

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                According to Usa,Uk and Isreal laws yes it is.

                If you need to lie about something to get someone to have sex with it is indeed rape its called rape by deception.
                This woman for example raped a straight woman by pretending to be a man online and demanding she wears a blindfold while having sex and she went to prison for 8 years in 2015
                https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34799692
                Rape by deception is illegal in Uk,Usa and Isreal so if anyone finds out youre actually a man afterwards they can tell the police and send you to jail in these countries.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                are you unable to understand how some people would find sex with trannies gross? and if you DO understand, then that means that you're being deceptive by withholding what you know is potentially important information.

                deceptive.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                sorry anon i dont assume everyone is disgusted by trannies, so no they're not being deceived

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry anon.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                now ask if theyd fuck a post op tranny
                all those cissoids are imagining a dick girl

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nah the Redditors in the OP thread specifically are saying it's rape with this post-op trans not disclosing.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Transphobes hunt for posts like this so they can raid them and updoot all their own replies to the top

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Haha no it was up for less than 30 minutes before being [removed] and you can sort the comments by "old" to see the instant responses

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                So.. They made it and shared the post to their little discord server or whatever so they could immediately fill the replies

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                First comment sorted by old (49 points):

                >Uh.. yeah dude.. in my opinion that is rape. You didn't have enough info to truly consent so that is just like rape. You were duped into having sex with her.. straight up.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                They're really not.

                I wouldn't date a post op transperson because I don't want to date someone dysphoric, mental illness sucks.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                this isn't assuming everyone is disgusted by trannies, all you need to know is that a significant amount of people are and that's enough for somebody to argue that you are deceiving people to get sex from them. because you don't know if your prospective partner is disgusted by trannies.

                let's not deviate from the subject. what's wrong with my logic here? are you gonna contest that transphobes are not a "significant" amount of the poplation or what? i wanna see you weasel your way out of this.

                When I was upfront, I would get all manner of rapey pigs talking about how they'd beat me me if I didn't put out, "they'd never hit a real woman, but...", how they'd still be able to overpower me, talking about how they'd get away with it because "no one cares if a tranny gets raped." Then I switched to stealth, and like magic, all that shit went away and I was treated like a human being. Yeah, million times safer in my experience.

                [...]
                That's not what rape is. Stop insulting actual rape victims by minimizing it down to petty shit like this.

                you're only proving my point. disclosing ended up in pointless transphobic threats, not violence. you're admitting that you're rolling the dice every time you have sex with one of those transphobes. one slip and those threats are no longer threats and the transphobe will go into a blind rage..

                what's more dangerous? receiving a pol tier dm cause you diclosed or hoping that the transphobe that's currently penetrating you stays ignorant about the truth lest he kill you?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                frankly i'm a pretty fucking accepting person.
                in this context, i'm clearly already into you.
                if you were to tell me, i'd be chill.
                if i had suspected before we fucked and i asked, and you told me the truth, i'd be chill.
                if i found out that you willfully evaded the topic until after we fucked in the hopes it'd just "blow over" or in some attempt to "gotcha" me or for any other reason, i'd feel abused and disrespected as a human. and yes, you ignoring the fact that i would have been assuming you're cis due to that being the prevailing circumstance in our society counts as willful evasion.
                you can spin it any way you want, you're a shit person if you think it's ok to do this. abusing another person like this for your own sexual gratification is fucked, and you're fucked.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >or in some attempt to "gotcha" me or for any other
                you keep assigning such malicious intent

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                because it's a fucking malicious act

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nope

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                absolutely.
                doing something to someone that you know they won't approve of, and justifying it on some kind of technicality, is absolutely malicious.
                and besides, your opinion of what counts as malicious towards someone is significantly less relevant than the target's opinion.

                >oh sorry officer no i didn't do anything wrong. you have to let me go, ok? really i'm the victim.
                >see i don't think it's wrong at all to beat women.
                >it's not malicious. i've deemed it as such.
                >i don't care if you, and society in general, and the woman disagrees.
                >i'm right to hit this woman and, frankly, she consented to it by entering into a relationship with me in the first place.
                >it's not my fault she didn't ask if i was a physical abuser first. i had no obligation to tell her i physically assault all my partners, either.
                >she really should have just known.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Its disingenuous to make a comparison that involves actual harm

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                it's disingenuous of you to insinuate that most people in our society would not view the intentional avoidance of informed consent as abusive and ethically bankrupt under the most permissive interpretation, and just rape by other interpretations.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Bro what
                Do I need to tell you how many wisdom teeth I got removed or else you'll cry rape too? Stop with the hysterics

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                nobody cares about your wisdom teeth, but millions of people care about you being trans to the point that they'd kill you over it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Seems like the choice to stay stealth is the safest most prudent choice then

                stop arguing in such bad faith, holy shit.
                just stop trying to pretend that straight cis males are not primarily seeking cis females. just stop trying to pretend that the world is full of straight cis males who will be 100% ok with fucking a trans female and not being told about it.
                these things are simply not true, as much as it sucks, and as much as you want it to be true it does not make them true.
                percentage of men who give a shit about the number of widsom teeth someone has had removed prior to having sex with them: less than 1% at worst
                percentage of men who give a shit about the gender information of someone prior to having sex with them: over 95% [...]
                you are a rapist. that you defend this mindset so thoroughly is vile. you and those who think like you are doing a disservice to the LGBT community by strongly reinforcing the stereotype that we're all predatory rapists.

                Hey if any guy says he hates trannies I'll just ghost him, np. Otherwise it's safe to assume he's into tranners when his dick is at full mast and he's pinning me to the bed so, cope+seethe

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Seems like the choice to stay stealth is the safest most prudent choice then
                google gay panic and tell me if all of those dead trans women would agree with you had they not been murdered for their imprudence

                >what's more dangerous? receiving a pol tier dm cause you diclosed or hoping that the transphobe that's currently penetrating you stays ignorant about the truth lest he kill you?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Seems like the choice to stay stealth is the safest most prudent choice then
                seems like terrible logic. when your hot extreme-homophobe extreme-transphobe masc man's cock slips into your obvious-as-fuck neovag and he connects the dots suddenly, he's going to punch you in the back of the head until your skull caves in.
                meanwhile if you'd just been an honest adult who respects other people as humans and disclosed early, you risk just getting some nasty names thrown at you by the loser and on you move on to someone who also accepts and respects you as a human. saved time for everyone.
                you're either suicidal or a rapist. no, wait, you're both.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey if any guy says bla bla bla
                one again, a blunt declaration that you don't respect other people's preferences in the slightest, and that everything is about you, and you're more than happy to just be a vile fucking rapist.
                good work, you're championing the "lgbt = rapists" stereotype very well.

                Seems like if it's such a huge deal for you you should just bring it up to your potential dates as a deal breaker

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                yep, also if you're aware being trans is a deal breaker to a lot of people you should disclose. don't neglect your own responsibility.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Mmm nah, not my responsibility

                >bring up every possible thing you're not cool with even if it appears to otherwise have no bearing on the current circumstance
                lol
                this only makes sense if it was considered unusual to have a problem with someone misrepresenting themselves intentionally to get in your pants. but no, most people think that's wrong. you're the odd one out.
                spin it however you want, rapist. you fucking disgust me. you KNOW it's going to be a big deal to most people you're targeting, and you choose to conceal it anyway and hide behind a veil of "w-w-well you didn't ask the magic question!!" because you're a selfish cunt who doesn't respect other people in the slightest and just wants to use them for your own sexual gratification with no regard for their opinion. aka rapist.

                Well, yeah? If it's such a huge problem for you why wouldn't you just bring it up to make sure it doesn't happen?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                lol. you're such a disingenuous rapist of a homosexual. thanks for giving all of us a bad name.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >>>>>>>>>>>>>>us

                >its their responsibility not mine
                >why?? just cause omg just let me keep raping people lolllll

                >it is le RAPE if I enjoy having sex with you then find out later I don't like you!

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                the whole thread is full of arguments that spell out how being deceptive to get sex is rapey. wouldn't expect a rapist to be honest about this subject though ofc.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >deceptive
                You keep using that word. I do not think that word means what you think that word means

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Deception can involve dissimulation, propaganda and sleight of hand as well as distraction, camouflage or concealment.
                >concealment
                2 sec google search. from wikipedia though so you can probably weasel out of this by saying source is invalid.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                If you say that, essentially every sexual activity in the history of existence involved deception, so it's kind of a meaningless point. Thanks for clarifying

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                of course a literal rapist assumes everybody deceives to get sex

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                bump

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                job interview a:
                >anxious person puts on a brave face and acts like a confident person to get the job

                job interview b:
                >manipulative liar pretends to be something he's not, lying about qualifications

                you: omg these r literally the same!

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                don't even bother. they're unapologetic rapists. it's a point of pride for them. they will never admit that raping people is wrong or that what they do is wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. they'll always have some justification for how it doesn't count. all they care about is treating other people like objects to get their rocks off.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                unironically #notalltrannies

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                i know, i meant "them" in the sense of "sociopathic, narcissistic predators" not "trannies"
                some trans folks, i assume, have a moral core of some kind

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm glad we're on the same page, you just aren't really making the connection between your point and mine

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                if you can't see any meaningful difference between interview a and interview b nor the equivalent sexual encounters, you are a highly damaged, narcissistic, and corrupt individual and your opinions on what things are right and wrong are completely irrelevant and outright dismissable. thank you for conceding that so clearly.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, lol did you think the equivalent is scenario b? You're hopeless

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >its their responsibility not mine
                >why?? just cause omg just let me keep raping people lolllll

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >bring up every possible thing you're not cool with even if it appears to otherwise have no bearing on the current circumstance
                lol
                this only makes sense if it was considered unusual to have a problem with someone misrepresenting themselves intentionally to get in your pants. but no, most people think that's wrong. you're the odd one out.
                spin it however you want, rapist. you fucking disgust me. you KNOW it's going to be a big deal to most people you're targeting, and you choose to conceal it anyway and hide behind a veil of "w-w-well you didn't ask the magic question!!" because you're a selfish cunt who doesn't respect other people in the slightest and just wants to use them for your own sexual gratification with no regard for their opinion. aka rapist.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey if any guy says bla bla bla
                one again, a blunt declaration that you don't respect other people's preferences in the slightest, and that everything is about you, and you're more than happy to just be a vile fucking rapist.
                good work, you're championing the "lgbt = rapists" stereotype very well.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                stop arguing in such bad faith, holy shit.
                just stop trying to pretend that straight cis males are not primarily seeking cis females. just stop trying to pretend that the world is full of straight cis males who will be 100% ok with fucking a trans female and not being told about it.
                these things are simply not true, as much as it sucks, and as much as you want it to be true it does not make them true.
                percentage of men who give a shit about the number of widsom teeth someone has had removed prior to having sex with them: less than 1% at worst
                percentage of men who give a shit about the gender information of someone prior to having sex with them: over 95%

                Sorry anon.

                you are a rapist. that you defend this mindset so thoroughly is vile. you and those who think like you are doing a disservice to the LGBT community by strongly reinforcing the stereotype that we're all predatory rapists.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >cute boy invites me over for chili
        >hell yeah I love chili!
        >cute boy cooks vegan chili
        >enjoy the chili
        >later casually mentions it had no meat in it
        >what the fuck?? You veggie raped me you liberal homosexual!!

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          retarded. you inverted the scenario.
          in your example, there is a concealed removal of something found desirable. removing something you know the other person would appreciate doesn't make the rest undesirable.
          in mine and OP's example, there is the concealed introduction of something found undesirable. introducing something you know the other person would not accept if they knew makes the entire experience undesirable and immoral.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            No, you're just mad the counterparty can't read your mind. You could literally prevent all this if you just say "hey btw if you're trans I'm not ok with this" in the same way you'd say that if you don't want vegan food

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              lol again with the autistic lack of understanding of socially acceptable behavior

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              being trans is the exception, not the norm. you're fully aware of the prevailing assumption that cis men will only want to fuck cis women, but are choosing to ignore it in the hopes they won't think about it. YOU could avoid all of this by just saying "hey btw i'm trans is that ok?" but you won't because you're a selfish cunt who wants their dick even if you have to exploit a person's reasonable expectations to get it.
              rejection sucks, yes. tricking people into not rejecting you doesn't mean you aren't getting rejected, though, it doesn't mean it won't happen anyway, it means they'll just reject you even moreso when you're found to have willfully lied to them by omission and willfully discarded their preferences.
              then they're not just rejecting you because you're trans, they're rejecting you because you're a shitty person, a liar, and an abuser.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                But if you want to fuck me then you want to fuck trans women too. There's no trickery, I'm not blindfolding you, wysiwyg, so if you're attracted to me then you're attracted to trans people. No problem.
                If you're gonna sperg out about it still just say it, it's not my responsibility to manage your hangups.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >wysiwyg
                yikes

  16. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It is. But raping transphobes is morally just so it cancels out most of the time.

  17. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's not rape but it's really fucking shitty.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Right. Unless you're a complete self-righteous myopic cunt, show the same respect for cis people you expect them to show you. I'd beat this person's ass if I met them for making us all look like deviants.

  18. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is this not the equivalent of a woman having a disappointing sexual experience because her partner had a really small penis? Should men have to disclose their penis size before sex to ensure their partner will be okay with it? I don't think a lot of them would like that.

  19. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    reddit op is such an obvious larp lol. this person has no idea what neovaginas are actually like
    >t. has one

    • 5 days ago
      15chan

      at the point where he says it was "loose" it's already an obvious larp lol, we literally have to dilate.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        He could just have a small dick

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Might not be false, Could be that every neovagina is different due to it being a surgery with different methods. ex: how Jazz Jenning's result is probably different than yours

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        there’s some things about srs that are individual, but no neovagina is “too loose” and “no grip” lol. much more likely to have tightness and trouble getting in. the ejaculation is also ridiculous, even pre-op trans women in hrt don’t shoot like men but this person clearly thinks we do before and after surgery. the post is obviously a lurid fantasy of someone who knows nothing about trans women and our bodies.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Does seem sus but I did see a video of a transwoman ejaculating

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            and I mean post-op . they ejaculated like a male would

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            and I mean post-op . they ejaculated like a male would

            Bullshit, you're probably thinking of that one gif with the dude with no dick or whatever

            At most the ejaculation is an oozing of clear fluid

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              search MTF SQUIRT on porn sites i don't want to on this computer

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Search female squirt porn and you'll also come up with fake bullshit

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                I'm sad to say I read this as "female squid porn"

  20. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Not in trans subreddits. Just in regular subreddits with a cis majority.

  21. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Any assertion that it is rape is based around the false premise that transwomen are still men, which in turn makes the assertion completely false. If a straight man has sex with a woman, both consensually, how is that rape?

    • 5 days ago
      15chan

      if you push them just a little bit on this front, the mask slips, "you can't force men to have gay sex!"

      and ofc you see the ones saying "I wouldn't have minded, it's just because you LIED!" lol. yeah i'm sure you wouldn't have minded dude.

      in the end we're just not desired because we don't validate men as men and we don't validate lesbians as lesbians.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >we don't validate men as men and we don't validate lesbians as lesbians.
        Pure projection.

        • 5 days ago
          15chan

          men are literally taught to view normative white cis women as prizes since almost the moment they're born, you think they can just unlearn that? this is why they don't bring us home to their families, their family wants to see a stacey. even cis women have problems with this in a ton of scenarios.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Straight up. That's what it all centers around. Lesbians are a good example too. Disheartening how many of them have the same sort of mindset as well. Really makes me doomer as fuck.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Tbf, rape by deception is an actual crime in many European countries. So if you fail to disclose something like that, they other side can press charges if they wish to do so.
      In some states in the US there's a thing called rape-by-fraud, so even if your state doesn't have it as a law, they can ref other states' laws if need be, so, realistically, it's possible to persecute a trans person who didn't disclose. But given the antics of American men, they prefer to just beat up or murder trannies and then rely on trans panic in conjunction with other laws/loopholes to reduce or avoid the sentence.

      I guess the assumption is that he's fucking a cis woman which a trans woman is not. Both cis and trans women are women, but trans women still aren't biological/cis women. Things get even spicier if a tranny didn't change her papers or something.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I guess the assumption is that he's fucking a cis woman which a trans woman is not. Both cis and trans women are women, but trans women still aren't biological/cis women. Things get even spicier if a tranny didn't change her papers or something.

        It shouldn't matter. Our attraction and sexualities aren't based on chromosomes. When you meet an attractive person its their figure or face you're noticing. You can't see their genitals and definitely not their chromosomes. So why should anyone feel insecure in their sexuality if they have sex with someone they found sexually attractive? Why is it suddenly rape even though you were turned on and ready to go, thinking you were having sex with a woman (which you were)?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >It shouldn't matter
          But that's the thing, it does matter to cis people.
          And genitalia matter a lot when it comes to sex, they're basically the most important part during sex, they're THE tools we use for fucking after all. I actually don't like how many trans people try to downplay the importance of genitalia. It's pretty dishonest. Sure, bottom dysphoria is a bitch, so you might want your genitalia not to matter, but they do and a lot.
          I mean I'm an androphilic tranny, but if a guy I hooked up with turned out to be trans, I'd just apolgise and bail out because I'm not into that kinda stuff. I know because it happened to me. And a cis person wouldn't be as understanding if they're in my shoes.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly! That’s why it’s also rape to trick a girl into thinking you’re richer than you really are. Finding a partner who can provide for your children is part of a woman’s fundamental biology, with millions of years behind it; it makes such a huge difference in mate selection that deceiving a woman like that invalidates whatever consent the poorfag may have weaseled out of her.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              “with millions of years of evolution* behind it” I mean

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'll agree that genitals matter to some extent. But if they're post SRS then that point is moot. Not to mention that it doesn't make it rape if you don't like their genitals, and still decide to go through with it too. A woman can't say a dude with a small dick raped her because he couldn't meet her expectations.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >But if they're post SRS then that point is moot
              Idk, maybe in the case of MtFs and depending on how good/convincing that neocooch is, but FtM SRS is, unfortunately, vastly more inferior. The guy had phallo with prosthetics, and it wasn't exactly convincing when he's on all fours with his ass up, it's actually pretty sad and uncanny. Just to make things clear, I'm a top, I need my bottom to have an actual dick otherwise it just doesn't look right to me, and my monke brain shorts. And a pussy, be it neo or bio, is just a big no-no.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's fair. I guess my whole issue is that you weren't raped or deceived. You were just disappointed with what your potential partner had. That doesn't make them a bad person or a liar. But you're entirely entitled to see what someone has going on under their pants and decide you don't want to have sex. You can stop for whatever reason you want.

  22. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Ok so Reddit thinks trans stealth sex is rape now

    Always was rape. Always will be. Only question really is whether the tranner could be charged legally.

  23. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 23/m. I met a woman on Tinder. older than me (34/f) but I was still attracted, we
    agreed to meet at her place. it was dark and she had music going, we barely talked before starting
    we did piv for a while but i struggled to come and had to be blown to completion. I would say i couldn't come due to Performance anxiety but that isn't exactly true. her vagina felt oddly loose like no 'suction', and unusually ‘stinky’ and wet. There was also an unusual smell which made me want to finish and get out quickly. The other TMI thing that happened, which is important to mention because it's what made me think the most, was that she'd orgasmed during the piv and squirted in an unusually thick/forceful way that i hadn't seen in porn.
    when I returned to my place I thought about this encounter a lot and realized something may have been very off. after some prying over chat, she disclosed to me that she is black, but white-passing, and had a kid. I feel like if I had known this then I wouldn't have agreed to the encounter at all, and have regret to the point of having frustrating recurring thoughts and even dreams about what happened. I feel like I was deceived, but was i? do I need to just accept what happened?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      lol someone post this to the midwit site. I won’t bc I’m permabanned and not going there has made my life better so I don’t want to get around it.

  24. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It is.
    Lying about ur sex to get someone to sleep with you because you know they wouldnt otherwise is rape by deception yes.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      so you agree that rightoid chuds who lie to women about their political beliefs just to get laid are also guilty of rape then?

  25. 5 days ago
    Cis >:V

    Oh well, it's kind of bad that you don't tell your suitor some details about you, that can generate regret later, like if you go out with a person who has HIV, and they don't tell you, maybe they's hiding important details! But I don't think this is rape, lol.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This scenario is not the equivalent of giving someone a life-altering STD lmao.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        lol it’s Cis; that tripfag’s gonna wind up in the news at 38 as one of those lesbians who tricks an underage teenage girl into sex by pretending to be a teenage boy, and she’ll probably spend the whole trial making a stink about how either all trans women are rapists or she’s not.

      • 5 days ago
        Cis >:V

        True, but I still stand by my point because this is very confusing and I want to appear reasonable to both sides!

        lol it’s Cis; that tripfag’s gonna wind up in the news at 38 as one of those lesbians who tricks an underage teenage girl into sex by pretending to be a teenage boy, and she’ll probably spend the whole trial making a stink about how either all trans women are rapists or she’s not.

        Well, yes, it seems likely, but if it's over 14, well, it won't go anywhere, that's Bostil's age of consent, and troublesome or not, no one has been arrested for impregnating a girl that age, and much less a malicious cross-dresser who pretended to be a boy to have sex with a teenager.
        And I would quote men who marry teenagers, not trans women, I have nothing against them lol.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          LGBMAP pride! Drop the T!

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Reasonable is recognizing that if you want to make sure 100% that you aren't having sex with a trans person then stop sleeping around with people you don't know and actually form a bond with the people you fuck if you want to know their chromosome status.

          • 5 days ago
            Cis >:V

            But isn't there the common sense to talk first? I know it could be, I don't know, that you don't want to say you're transsexual, but the person you're going to be intimate with can't know? After all it is an intimate relationship and you are expected to be honest before having sex, talk about your preferences, what you like and don't, if you have experience and if you have any information that you feel is relevant to share! Or will everyone have to stalk everyone else's social media?
            Even bisexual cis girls say they are bisexual to whom they are going to have sex, lol.

            LGBMAP pride! Drop the T!

            Jajajajajajja

            > seems likely
            all lesbians are predatory

            I never denied it.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          > seems likely
          all lesbians are predatory

  26. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    What if there was such a thing as a "Rape Spectrum".

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >What if there was such a thing as a "Rape Spectrum".
      Everyone is ignoring the post with the actual solution

  27. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically depends on how good your SRS results are. If the neovag acts convincing enough then you're alright.

  28. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    why aren't we working towards a society where humans are genetically engineered and grown in artificial wombs with sex and other forms of physical pleasure completely outlawed?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because we're not all trauma-induced "asexuals" like yourself.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        but sex is literally primitive behavior that has no actual benefits while also contributing to disease spread and social decay. not to mention the fact that human births are ridiculously damaging to women's bodies, etc.

        there is literally no reason why we can't get rid of the concept of "sex" in the future

  29. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    After reading the replies from trannies to this thread i can confidently say LGB drop the T.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes! And also it’s important to make sure that it’s WLGBMAP (white gay, lesbian, bisexual, and minor-attracted persons). It’s the next step in civil rights.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        When i said drop the T i meant drop all T including nonbinary,MAP etc. all subcultures of the trans community

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          No MAP is part of LGB, we don’t want anything to do with the T or any of those gender freaks, but we are an orientation

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Every single MAP has neopronouns and uses transsexuality as a reasoning why we should be able to transition ages MAPs are most definitely more under the T umbrella than the LGB one.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              No, most MAPs are just normal men and women who happen to have an age sexual orientation

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Troon hands wrote this.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Every single MAP has neopronouns and uses transsexuality as a reasoning why we should be able to transition ages MAPs are most definitely more under the T umbrella than the LGB one.

                Disgusting. It’s called NAMBLA not NATBLA; trannies have never been part of our (LGBMAP) community

  30. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    OK so people who have neovaginas or have had sex with neovaginas, fill me in. What are the deets on the actual differences to a cis vag?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I am a trans woman so interested in any credible stories I read but not able to directly experience the man's part...
      everyone seems to agree the taste smell etc. is fine except if she has an infection (unfortunately gynecological care is very much lacking for us). usually it's reported as being especially tight. lube might be required but a trip to the pharmacy shows lube is mostly used by cis people anyway. I make enough if he's willing to spend time on foreplay tbh. we don't ejaculate and I expect have more problems orgasming from penetration than cis women anyway. the hole has to be in line with the space between the bladder and rectum, but the clit has to be where the penis stuck out to begin with. it makes for a longer average slit length and a greater average distance between vagina and clit.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        so you produce precum (same function you ejaculate from) but you don't ejaculate upon orgasm? I saw a video of a post-op MTF ejaculating with orgasm so I know it does happen with some
        for me, the concept that you can produce natural lube via precum but somehow don't ejaculate is odd, why would that happen for some/most? just weakened tube strength or something?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          yeah something like that. the prostate and cowper's glands are homologous to the skene's and bartholin's glands and now serve the same purpose though the plumbing is a bit different. I don't think the erection mechanism that holds it in works like that anymore due to a combination of being scalpeled away and hormones.
          if it was the same video that I saw that was posted here a few weeks ago I don't believe it was a mtf...

          foul smell proof:

          >A normal sized speculum (2.5 cm wide) could be used in 74% of women (37/50), whereas the smaller type (2.0 cm wide) had to be used in the remainder of women. Only in one patient insertion of a speculum was impossible due to almost complete obliteration of the vagina. Although this was not a study criterion and therefore not scored, a foul smell of the vagina was observed in most patients.

          https://bmcmicrobiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2180-9-102

          yeah I've had a gram smear too... "normal vaginal flora"
          notice their conclusion was "their vaginas are fucked" rather than "I wonder if we could treat them"
          as I said gynecological care is very much lacking

          • 5 days ago
            15chan

            so we'll just never have good vaginas? so we'll have to get SRS and then never have sex? I guess that's okay..... I was kind of looking forward to it since cis women and afabs act like it's great, but....

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              what are you on about my vag is great? cis attitudes are shit but it is possible to find someone and it's great.

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                yeah but one of them was "destroyed" and all of them smelled bad in that study?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Just get someone who appriciates the weird smell like how many people are disgusted by the smell of cheese but also many people love cheese smell.

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                well rn it kinda smells musky but almost salty or like seafood? like a sea cucumber or smth? is that what they mean?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Apparently it smells closer to a subtle shit smell from what i read but that doesnt have to be the case for you sometimes trans vaginas dont smell like anything just like the read thing so you should definitely try it and then you can get another penis made out of your thigh with silicon testicles if you dont like it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                yeah well... mine isn't like that
                I suspect defeatist attitudes from doctors play a large role in trans women's vaginal health. that is disheartening but not overcomable if you know what you're up against.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        foul smell proof:

        >A normal sized speculum (2.5 cm wide) could be used in 74% of women (37/50), whereas the smaller type (2.0 cm wide) had to be used in the remainder of women. Only in one patient insertion of a speculum was impossible due to almost complete obliteration of the vagina. Although this was not a study criterion and therefore not scored, a foul smell of the vagina was observed in most patients.

        https://bmcmicrobiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2180-9-102

  31. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    How is it not?

  32. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Deceitful but not rape
    >cool face i wanna fuck
    >cool body i wanna fuck
    >cool hole i literally fuck under no duress or impairment
    >oh no. i was raped
    Totally consensual the entire time, post fact regret doesn't qualify, make better decisions such as not having sex with complete strangers

  33. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If he was raped, then she was also raped. After all, I'm sure she wouldn't have had sex with him if she'd known he was the kind of absolute beta who would be so distraught by it. Maybe he shouldn't trick women into thinking he's not some whiny bigot.

  34. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It is. I think trans people should legally have to wear badges or something that identify them as trans so they stop doing this.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think you're serious but I do actually think that SRS should require signing a contract stating you understand stealthing or attempted stealthing will lead to jail time minimum

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, some kind of armband that clearly distinguishes them from the rest of society. We could even do something cute, like a pink shape of some sort

  35. 5 days ago
    Pomegranate

    If i fuck a guy who got hair transplants, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a bald guy
    If i fuck a guy who borrowed his boss’ maserati, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a brokie
    If i fuck a guy who lied about having a wife, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a married guy
    If i fuck a guy who lied about being good at video games, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a noob
    If i fuck a guy who has abs but he used to be fat, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a fat guy
    If i fuck a guy who didn’t tell me about his low credit score, is that rape? I wouldn’t fuck a guy with low credit score

    where do they want to draw the line?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      is common sense that much a struggle with trans people? i mean is there an autism/trans connection maybe? these comparisons are nonsensical to 99% of society

      • 5 days ago
        Pomegranate

        > these comparisons are nonsensical to 99% of society
        but they’re sensical to me, and that’s all that fucking matters. If I wouldn’t date by ANY MEANS the people i listed, are you saying that they have the right to rape me by omission?

        • 5 days ago
          Pomegranate

          fuck*

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          autistic main character syndrome.

          you are not the sole decider of what 'rape' means in society

          • 5 days ago
            Pomegranate

            Oh ok so it’s okay if I get raped by omission, right?
            God, conservatives are such sick people

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              good luck convincing society you were raped because nondisclosure of hair transplants, which is your terrible argument that you think is clever.

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                who the fuck cares if society thinks that it should matter?
                IT MATTERS TO ME, and that’s all that matters. Wow, everyone, look at the conservatives justifying rape.
                Disgusting

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                sure and if you rape a child it's ok because to YOUR brain it wasn't rape, right? well, cry about it in prison

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                Are you retarded? Like actually braindamaged?
                Having sex with a minor is in NO WAY comparable you fucking degenerate.
                Sheesh, conservatives showing their true colors: fucking a transperson is the same thing as fucking a child
                YIKES

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                My point that you're pretending not to get is that your maincharacter-syndrome about what rape is and isn't doesn't define how society defines it regardless of how infuriating or depressing it may be. So disclose.

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                So the only reason something is or isn’t rape is determined by how icky society sees it as? How childish. You disgust me

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                defining rape by societal consensus is pretty fucked up, it wasn't so longer ago that marital rape wasn't considered rape

                based pedophilia enjoyers

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                Consensual sex is in no way comparable to non-consensual sex with a minor. Are you actually retarded?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                "consent" is defined based on social consensus you fucking retard

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Both of these (trans sex without disclosure) , (adult with minor) are rape because of the un-ignoreable background of reality/science despite any, say, MAP push of "oh children are just as smart as adults" or LGBT push of "oh but transwomen are just like real women".

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                insane

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                "consent" is defined based on social consensus you fucking retard

                God conservatives make me so fucking sick.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                defining rape by societal consensus is pretty fucked up, it wasn't so longer ago that marital rape wasn't considered rape

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, though I would say aversion nondisclosure of a sex change is more based on science/reality and is thus more likely to stick than something of social politics. Unless in the future they literally have chromosome-warping procedures

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I would say aversion nondisclosure of a sex change is more based on science/reality
                then you'd be wrong, your sexual preference isn't 'science'
                if you have a dealbreaker, then be upfront about it before having sex

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                unfortunately it's scientific fact that MTFs aren't females, FTMs aren't males, neovaginas aren't vaginas, and neopenises aren't penises. Do you really disagree?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Sophie if I kissed you on the head (non consensually) what would you do
                t. ConservaChud 3000

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >IT MATTERS TO ME, and that’s all that matters
                why? why does this matter?

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                because this is me getting MY consent swindled with? are you insane???

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                yeah but why do you matter? also im a different outraged anon. You're positing a position where you're the only human being who matters and whose consent matters hence the conflict here. Therefore the question of why do you specifically matter is legitimate.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                With literally everything dating it's up to you to communicate your red flags to a potential partner. It's up to you to parse whether a person is the kind you're attracted to, it's up to you to make sure they're old enough, it's up to you to ask whether they have any diseases you should know about, it's up to you to figure out whether they have any dealbreakers for you. It's completely childish to expect a complete stranger to do that work for you, then accuse them of rape when they don't. That's not how any of this works at all.

                Nope. Even MTFs hate being clocked. Also it sounds like you wouldn't even answer honestly to "Btw are you trans?" since you'd go as far as to want to stealth sex them anyway.

                >y-you wouldn't even tell the truth anyways!!!
                You just can't win with these people.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                isn't nondisclosure of STDs already considered rape? or is it only AIDS

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                STDs are different, because that puts you at risk of consequences beyond that initial contact.

                I mean yeah, some of you legit think you are "actual women" and already answer that way when inquired. But YOU at least agree those people would be rapists, correct?

                If someone asks if you're trans and you lie? Yeah I'd say that's rape by deception. But if they never even ask? Nah dude I really don't care.
                Also I don't want to have sex with someone who doesn't consider me a real woman. So, should everyone I date have to openly declare their beliefs on trans women before they have sex with me, else it's rape?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Also I don't want to have sex with someone who doesn't consider me a real woman.
                Do you even consider yourself a real woman?
                Good luck.

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                lmao like I said you don't need to push far at all

                if you push them just a little bit on this front, the mask slips, "you can't force men to have gay sex!"

                and ofc you see the ones saying "I wouldn't have minded, it's just because you LIED!" lol. yeah i'm sure you wouldn't have minded dude.

                in the end we're just not desired because we don't validate men as men and we don't validate lesbians as lesbians.

                attention ladies, cisoids are incapable of seeing you as a real woman even if you've known it deeply and as real as something can be real, since you were 12 or whatever. you will never be the girl they take home, the girl they write songs about, the girl they're proud to show their family, the girl they imagine marrying in the future. you are not that girl for any of these people. they're right, we should avoid having sex with them, but not for the reasons they say lol.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                What about chasers who think transgender bodies are the bee's knees?

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                yes I recognize that, where cis people are concerned, trans-amorous folks are the only ones who will date us. and I don't think it's a choice, it's a sexuality or kink or w/e.

                but my opinion depends on how much internalized transphobia they've allowed to pathologize their attraction to us in their own heads, thinking we are "less than real women" on some level, characterizing the relationship as gay or necessarily bi, or thinking we're "better than foids" for w/e reason. I just want to be your girl. a princess, a lady. none of this weird shit please. don't make it weird dude.

                but I know my prince charming will never come. I'm dating a beautiful adorkable trans girl rn anyway. things will work out. but the fact that I couldn't have a normal life because of transphobia will always be true. don't pretend this is normal or the "just the way of the world".

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                lmao
                a chaser has been redefined in recent time to not just mean someone transphilic, but to also cover the neutral folks in the middle who are genuinely just ok either way.
                trannies don't want to date someone who "likes them for them" or who learns they were trans and goes "oh, that's cool with me!". that means the person will tolerate deviancy from gender norms and that does nothing to directly affirm their new gender identity.
                and they certainly don't want to date someone who actually strives for dating/fucking trans people. that means the person celebrates deviancy from gender norms and that DEFINITELY does nothing to affirm their new gender identity.
                no, they have such a deep-seated desperate need to be assured by others that they're now real girls or real boys that they will only tolerate being with people who are actively transphobic. they want the reveal. they want a man who is disgusted by men to find out and decide that, well, they're a girl now so it doesn't matter in the end. that validates their transition, it proves that they made the right choices and it proves that they're indistinguishable from the real deal.
                this doesn't work, of course.
                people notice, and men who are revulsed by men will never think about an ex-man the same way, ever. it sucks but it's true.
                as usual, it's a trans person using the people around them as pawns in some emotional validation game.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah dude obviously

                Thank you, though I don't need luck. I already trapped me a good bf/ soon to be husband <3

                being trans is the exception, not the norm. you're fully aware of the prevailing assumption that cis men will only want to fuck cis women, but are choosing to ignore it in the hopes they won't think about it. YOU could avoid all of this by just saying "hey btw i'm trans is that ok?" but you won't because you're a selfish cunt who wants their dick even if you have to exploit a person's reasonable expectations to get it.
                rejection sucks, yes. tricking people into not rejecting you doesn't mean you aren't getting rejected, though, it doesn't mean it won't happen anyway, it means they'll just reject you even moreso when you're found to have willfully lied to them by omission and willfully discarded their preferences.
                then they're not just rejecting you because you're trans, they're rejecting you because you're a shitty person, a liar, and an abuser.

                bruh if you want to fuck me, then you don't just want to fuck cis women. Reeeally hate to break it to ya

                if you really think disclosing is more dangerous than fucking having stealth sex with a transphobe you're a damn idiot.

                oh that's right you want to fuck people who want to kill you, and that's why you don't disclose

                I've never stealth sexed, but I have stealth dated. It was 10000% safer than early disclosure.

                Just take some fucking responsibility for your own preferences. Christ...

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                He's going to notice your dilators and lack of menstruation and figure out you're not female. Hopefully you told him your trans status?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It was 10000% safer than early disclosure.
                says who? WHAT are you even basing this on? you're making up excuses because you just dont want to tell people you're trans, period. and it has nothing to do with safety, it's just you being selfish and abusing people's trust.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                When I was upfront, I would get all manner of rapey pigs talking about how they'd beat me me if I didn't put out, "they'd never hit a real woman, but...", how they'd still be able to overpower me, talking about how they'd get away with it because "no one cares if a tranny gets raped." Then I switched to stealth, and like magic, all that shit went away and I was treated like a human being. Yeah, million times safer in my experience.

                rape is sex without informed consent. you should disclose information that you could reasonably assume your partner may care about.

                Since most people are transphobic, it is reasonable to assume your partner may want to know you are trans.

                That's not what rape is. Stop insulting actual rape victims by minimizing it down to petty shit like this.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why were you hanging out with rapey people? It sounds like you're hooking up with people at sleazy bars.

                I assume most people are good people and wouldn't treat me as anything other than the woman I am so, sounds good to me

                Look at

                Sorry anon.

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                victim-blaming already???

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >bruh if you want to fuck me, then you don't just want to fuck cis women. Reeeally hate to break it to ya
                willingly-exploitative rapist mindset.
                i would most likely be down to fuck you just fine if not for the fact that you're a vile festering pit of a human being with no ethical core.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I've never stealth sexed, but I have stealth dated. It was 10000% safer than early disclosure.
                Safer to not tell someone you're dating that you're trans? What is the logic there?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                if you tell someone you're trans they will backtrace your ip and the consequences will never be the same

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                if you pair bond first he'll be less likely to immediately break up with you without proper consideration.

                also tell over the phone to reduce chance of hatecrime.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >if you pair bond first he'll be less likely to immediately break up with you without proper consideration.
                so be deceptive until the person is too emotionally attached to you to break up with you by the time you're honest with them?

                nope, no red flags here. everybody should just accept trannies btw lolol

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                well its certainly not rape. and ideally you tell them at the point where they will seriously think about it. like around the 3rd date.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >well its certainly not rape
                arguable. you seem to admit that this behavior is deceptive and we both know that the trannies who behave like this do it with the express purpose of getting relationships and sex. deception with the intent of getting sex. what does that sound like?

                >and ideally you tell them at the point where they will seriously think about it. like around the 3rd date.
                ideally you wouldn't play manipulative games like this with other people but oh well

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                it sounds like a regular relationship to me, where you put your best foot forward on for the first date, then tell the important stuff later on.

                ideally, no one would be transphobic or care about a post-op tranny being trans

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                fair enough, a certain amount of deception is normal in relationships. when it comes to transgender stuff however that is super important information to a lot of people, it's not like pretending you like the arctic monkeys to have more in common with your partner though.
                gay panic is a thing, is that enough to understand how vital this information is to some people? this is not a tiny little lie, some people will literally kill you if you're trans.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                i really honestly think most straight man will simply just break up and not harbor a hard feeling or feel violated by going on a couple dates with a tranny. at least where I live (california).

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                sure, and a rapist could say that the women he lied to in order to have sex with them are proobably gonna be ok and not gonna end up traumatized. maybe he's right, who knows? i'd rather tread on the safe side.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                you should definitely do what makes you comfortable. this is mostly a thought exercise for me as I'm celebrating my 1 year anniversary (t4t) today.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Would it be ok in your opinion for someone to lie about being a millionaire to get in someone's pants and then admit it was a lie several dates later? Legally that's rape.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                i meant no sex for the first 3 dates. i'm not a whore.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                And if he reveals he has a neopenis then what?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                then we fugggg 😀

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                you dont get it anon
                trannies are inherently deceptive and everything they do is deception
                a girl with a vagina cant just have sex without disclosing her medical history or else shes deceiving them because shes not actually a girl with a vagina

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Telling people your trans status before having sex with them is a good way of getting rid of people who don't consider transwomen to be real women

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                it's also a good way of attracting the people who want to fucking kill us

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                if you really think disclosing is more dangerous than fucking having stealth sex with a transphobe you're a damn idiot.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                oh that's right you want to fuck people who want to kill you, and that's why you don't disclose

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I mean yeah, some of you legit think you are "actual women" and already answer that way when inquired. But YOU at least agree those people would be rapists, correct?

  36. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    anyone here thats triggered by stealth sex and worries about the 'rape' of a man is malebrained
    >t. hsts who plans to deep stealth and stealth sex without remorse

  37. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, reddit being right about something. The world is going to end.

  38. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    kek

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf reddit is based and LULZ is cringe now?
      This is kind alike that time when democrats and republicans switched araund.
      I guess im moving to reddit now.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the tranny sub reddit is coping about their ball-ginas guys!!! Good thing I'm a based redditor

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Trans women are women its not rape to lie about your sex
          >negative 11 score
          >A reply telling him that "male to female women will never be female to female women"
          >+2 points
          yup theyre coping about their ball ginas!

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            You have very poor reading compression don't you anon.

  39. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >nazi sleeps with a israelite
    >only finds out afterwards that she's a israelite
    >mfw he got raped
    and yet the israeli community will defend this

  40. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    do intersex people need to disclose that their chromosomes dont match their genitals
    is it rape if they dont
    or are they not as icky and deceptive as trannies so it doesnt matter

  41. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you need to lie about something to get someone to have sex with it is indeed rape its called rape by deception.
    This woman for example raped a straight woman by pretending to be a man online and demanding she wears a blindfold while having sex and she went to prison for 8 years in 2015
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34799692
    Rape by deception is illegal in Uk,Usa and Isreal so if anyone finds out youre actually a man afterwards they can tell the police and send you to jail in these countries.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous
    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >If you need to lie about something to get someone to have sex with it is indeed rape its called rape by deception.
      what's the lie? OP redditor never asked if she's trans

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        the 14y/o never asked if the man was 25

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          very worrying how you view those as the same thing
          stay away from children

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            oh? but your point is that if they couldn't tell in the moment, then it was all fair play?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              children are unable to consent
              you should stop arguing they can
              these are not similar situations at all

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                you can't consent to something if you're not properly informed about it
                in which case a person can't legitimately consent to fucking a non-disclosing tranny
                so yes in both cases there's a lack of consent and therefore it's rape

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                and to add for the room temp IQs in the room, children can't consent because their brains aren't fully developed yet and don't fully understand the consequences of their actions
                it's literally the same shit here

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                > you can't consent to something if you're not properly informed about it
                I could argue that you now think that nobody has consented to sex ever
                Who are you to decide that the trans info is a MUST? If it’s such a big deal, shouldn’t they just fucking ask? If she then says no, then yes, that’s rape.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Who are you to decide that the trans info is a NOT MUST?

              • 5 days ago
                Pomegranate

                answer my question first fag

                If it’s such a big deal to everyone else, shouldn’t they just fucking tell?
                If they refuse to tell despite knowing it matters to almost everyone, then yeah that's rape.

                I didn’t realize we know the entirety of people’s mental states prior to sex.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                If it’s such a big deal to everyone else, shouldn’t they just fucking tell?
                If they refuse to tell despite knowing it matters to almost everyone, then yeah that's rape.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's not how communication works. If it is that important to you that who you are dating isn't trans, then you need to make that clear. It's not some stranger's job to parse every preference you may or may not have for you. Have some responsibility for your own preferences, for fuck's sake.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine having trouble getting laid on Tinder and then finally scoring a chick but then LGBT assholes wanting YOU to risk your chances by having to insult them by asking, "Btw, are you trans?" which they will certainly read as "Btw, you look like a man"
                Post-op'ers are < 0.01% of the population; you don't get to dictate how hetero interactions go

              • 5 days ago
                15chan

                >Imagine having trouble getting laid on Tinder

                bruh I think you said it all right here LMAO

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                back to grindr for you

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Here's the thing: if you honestly thought it were rape, then it would be obvious common sense that you would ask. You'd ask every single person you ever thought of fucking, so that you never have to risk it. Maybe you'd miss out on the occasional tinderella who takes the question weird, sure, but that's just the cost of doing business.
                But it's pretty obviously not rape in the slightest, so you don't.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. Even MTFs hate being clocked. Also it sounds like you wouldn't even answer honestly to "Btw are you trans?" since you'd go as far as to want to stealth sex them anyway.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It was actually a common incel tactic to make fake Chad profiles on dating sites and to ask the women if they were trans. Every single one posted got offended at being asked.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >some incels trolling is definitely reliable data
                opinion completely disregarded

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and also, there was an actual attempt to popularize a label for unwilling-to-fuck-trans.
                It was called "SuperStraight", and it was canceled.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                you consent to fuck the tranny
                feeling gross about it later doesn't retract consent
                if the neo vagina grosses you out then stop sex and retract consent
                you can't retract afterwards

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          rightoid pedo projection

    • 5 days ago
      15chan

      went to jail in the UK lol. and yes we might get done dirty like this too. so? it's the law, not an omniscient judge of actual morality. remember when CeCe McDonald went to jail for stabbing and inadvertently killing her would-be attacker/rapist/killer? no white cis woman would go to jail for that. and it's literally been a trope since early 2000s SVU that we get done dirty. so what? it just means avoid transphobic guys as partners, generally.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      but they arent lying anon

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >If you need to lie about something to get someone to have sex with it is indeed rape its called rape by deception.
        what's the lie? OP redditor never asked if she's trans

        A man saying that hes a woman is a lie just like how a woman saying shes a man is a lie too.
        Just go for other fellow gay guys in drag like this guy

        went to jail in the UK lol. and yes we might get done dirty like this too. so? it's the law, not an omniscient judge of actual morality. remember when CeCe McDonald went to jail for stabbing and inadvertently killing her would-be attacker/rapist/killer? no white cis woman would go to jail for that. and it's literally been a trope since early 2000s SVU that we get done dirty. so what? it just means avoid transphobic guys as partners, generally.

        instead of trying to deceive and gaslight people into doing something they dont want to do if they werent being lied to.

  42. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    it is a hate crime for cis men to not want to date and fuck trans females in the same way it is a hate crime for attractive straight men to not be willing to date and fuck gay bottoms.
    if you have to trick someone into fucking you, they didn't fuck you, they fucked an imaginary version of you that you needed to construct to get their dick. if you can't see that this is immoral as hell, then you're a lost cause.

  43. 5 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      fake clout chaser

  44. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Hiding things from people or "deceiving them" isn't rape though. People have been deceiving others for sex for centuries. Whether its men lying about what kind of job they have or women having plastic surgery or people lying about their sexual pasts, deceit is part of the game. People are only upset because a form of "deceit" they don't like is in play now.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Hiding things from people or "deceiving them" isn't rape though.
      it is because it changes the accepted terms of consent. Consent should be understood as "i consent based on these understood set of circumstances or conditions." Changing those circumstances requires a reevaluation of the consent. This is why this kind of deception is being considered rape and why removing a condom mid-sex is considered rape.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >People are only upset because a form of "deceit" they don't like is in play now.
      This. Women are all about deceiving men to get what they want and men literally brag about lying to women to get sex.

  45. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    reddit thinks like that

  46. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    is it an accurate depiction of srs vagina?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      foul smell proof:

      >A normal sized speculum (2.5 cm wide) could be used in 74% of women (37/50), whereas the smaller type (2.0 cm wide) had to be used in the remainder of women. Only in one patient insertion of a speculum was impossible due to almost complete obliteration of the vagina. Although this was not a study criterion and therefore not scored, a foul smell of the vagina was observed in most patients.

      https://bmcmicrobiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2180-9-102

  47. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    kinda beginning to understand why terfs consider transwomen rapists. not only do you struggle with the very concept of consent, but many of you seem to full on refuse allow others to make informed choices regarding their bodies. The mental gymnastics you use to justify this behavior and thought processing is really quite disgusting.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >other people won't tell me everything about them that I might not be attracted to? Raaape!
      back to mumsnet bud

  48. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's her business to disclose whether she is pre or post op. Anyone saying it's deception, rape or both is clinically retarded and needs to be dumped on the surface of the moon.

  49. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    i simply find it hilarious that trannies have such low self esteem that they go out of their way to hide their identity just so they can fuck people who would actually be disgusted by them if they knew the truth

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      or a girl with a vagina wants to have a sex life as a girl with a vagina but apparently her chromosomes are the determining factor

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        A vagina doesnt close itself if you forget to dilate it.

  50. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    rape is sex without informed consent. you should disclose information that you could reasonably assume your partner may care about.

    Since most people are transphobic, it is reasonable to assume your partner may want to know you are trans.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I assume most people are good people and wouldn't treat me as anything other than the woman I am so, sounds good to me

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        well, your assumption is very stupid. most people are transphobic (

        Sorry anon.

        ).

  51. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    if a bi guy doesnt disclose hes bi before sex is that rape? most women dont want to fuck homosexuals

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      is there an enourmoes anti bi movement in which people don't consider them human and worthy of respect?

      the answer is no, before you get smarmy. have some nuance.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ciswomen looking for a one night stand probably wouldn't care, they expect their partners to be promiscuous. In a relationship yes, people should disclose their dating history.

  52. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    i'm post op
    i've had sex with men.
    meet them on grindr. was very clear about the situation.
    would fuck again.
    much better to be honest about it so you can enjoy yourself. i got to try way more positions and things. it's awesome. not every guy is going to be ok with it. some guys have noted my pheremones were off and it's not like banging a cis girl. regardless, they can tell the difference. penis's are sensitive. i will say a ribbed condom makes all the difference.
    stealth sex denies them the right to fully consent. if they don't understand what they're getting into they can feel betrayed and have a right to be upset. it's a medical condition. if you had aids, you should probably tell people before you have sex with them. they have a right to know.

  53. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    That scenario is 100% rape.
    The trans woman should press charges.
    You absolutely must disclose your transphobia to someone you intend to have sex with. Not doing so is rape by deception.

  54. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Don't people realize that there are a quite a lot of people whose careers and lives would be effectively over if it ever came to light that they had intercourse with a transperson? I'm not saying that they wouldn't deserve being exposed but if it's about your safety you should realize turning yourself into walking blackmail material and thus a target for people who work in conservative circles if you go stealth and in some way they learn about your transgender status.

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