Material existence is transitory. And apparently, we are fated to reincarnate forever because nature itself abhors a vacuum. What the fuck.
Material existence is transitory. And apparently, we are fated to reincarnate forever because nature itself abhors a vacuum. What the fuck.
Reincarnation doesnt make any sense, where do new souls come from? Who create said souls? Whats the purpose or samsara?
These questions are never answered by stupid westerners followers of stupid religions
All people come from the image of god. Soul/sol/sole means one and it also means light.
Because we are all the same minus the satanic divisions in this world that we buy into. Stop thinking of people as snowflakes they are all satans.
>Source wanted to be an african kid being beheaded by some warlord
Who'd have know
You’re an idiot. All people are the same such a plain truth. Stop buying into division you retard snowflake.
The warlord is just more experienced and enlightened than the dumb kid. The kid will eventually grow into the warlord himself if he pursues light and knowledge.
What the fuck are you talking about
You ever played a video game before?
You know there has to be villains programmed into the code to create challenges or else what's the point of playing, right?
The warlord is like epic tier master soul level so he can give the gift of fucking beheading the kid. There is no experiencer only the experience.
When you have lived since time immemorial as a literal godhead there is no lengths you are afraid to go to for these experiences.
Your depravity knows no bounds.
Why do you think you need your memory wiped each time you come back... duh!!!
Wow if that was true, I'd really hate myself for coming here.
Yeah the video game character really hates the guy playing the game too for putting them through literal hell for pure entertainment.
The good news is when the game is turned off its back to the paradise of non-existence.
Trust me you can't wait to leave this literal hellhole - you depraved fuck.....
There are many many MANY games that have no set challenge and no villains.
A game is a series of interesting choices.
NONE of those choices have be harmful or distressing.
Only a sadist or someone with no imagination and creativity thinks you need a villain or need evil to have interesting choices.
The source doesn't need to simulate all these experiences because it already has them in its infinite being. All you've said doesn't make sense.
Time is an illusion and what you call all these experiences existing within the source has no meaning as all this is instantaneous and therefore within source.
The only thing that makes sense is that nothing should exist and indeed nothing does.
This is the illusion of existence.
>Stop buying into division you retard snowflake.
All I'm saying is that living in the african slums isnt the same as living in the richest neighborhood of Tokyo
Souls are created out of dissonance with source. They are basically just will/desire that takes form. It's all the same thing wearing different masks.
>dissonance with source
Dissonance of what? The source is the pure perfection and cannot have any dissonances in it.
Desire is perception that distorts understanding of perfection. Distortion is another good word.
I'm not going to say I fully understand it since I'm tangled up in this "mess" as well. But in the macrocosmic scale it's all just energy /karmic exchange, always seeking balance/homeostasis. Very hard to see it that way of course while living in the shit. There's a reason enlightenment isn't very common.
>Desire is perception that distorts understanding of perfection
Who has this perception? Is he/she separate from perfection?
No, it's delusion. Think of it in terms of duality. Duality requires at least 2 points of reference by definition. Those two points are arbitrarily drawn by perception. It's what the garden of eden is all about. They were in perfect non-dual bliss with God. When they are the fruit of knowledge, it gave them the distinction of good and evil(duality in general), which was a perception that didn't exist until the fruit was consumed. Their will to know created the fall. And here we are now. The demiurge(dyad), is a different story for the same allegory.
Same old tired questions from people too stupid to find answers.
>where do new souls come from?
There are infinite souls. All souls are eternal.
>Who create said souls?
Souls are never created. You are erernal.
You have existed with God for as long as God.
>Whatss the purpose or samsara?
To indulge in your desire to pretend to be separate and independent and the center of existence. To pretend to be the Enjoyer.
Yes. As much as you want to indulge in the delusion, you are NOT the center of existence. You are NOT the Enjoyer.
This incompatibility, along with the inherently temporary aspect of the lesser, material energy, is what causes suffering.
>There are a lot of lives no-one would choose.
Also correct. Those lives are being enjoyed by other people, which causes suffering to the one in that body who wants to be the Enjoyer.
You go to the extreme of kid and warlord, but this exactly the same as one person winning the lottery, or a guy stealing your girl, or any number of issues of everyone trying to center everything and everyone on themselves.
Wrong, and illogically assuming what is completely unnecessary.
Something is eternal. It is the default.
There is never nothing, and no reason there ever would be.
>To indulge in your desire to pretend to be separate and independent and the center of existence
Where does this desire comes from? We're the perfect eternal soul with no desires
>We're the perfect eternal soul with no desires
No. There are perfect desires, you have been listening to nihilists and fools. Our desire is to serve, to love. Our corrupted desire puts this on temporary things, on things based upon our self as Center, rather.than.thw actual Center as center.
>Where does this desire comes from?
From being like God. God is the Supreme Enjoyer. We are infinitesimal, fractal reflections of God, as such we have an infinitesimal amount of these traits, including the desire to be the Enjoyer.
When this arises, it is indulged here until the desire goes away.
Here. Now.
>Our corrupted desire puts this on temporary things
How did it happen that we have corrupted desires?
The desire isn't corrupt, the focus is.
It happens because we are not Supreme. We can make mistakes.
Really, on a higher understanding, even the "mistake" is still correct, but it includes suffering while the "proper" focus of desire does not.
Where is the here and now you speak of? Is it tangible, can you hold it?
Even here and now is illusionary and there is fundamentally no separation between anything.
>Where.
Here.
>Is it tangible
The tangible parts are.
>Here.
Where?
>The tangible parts are.
Which are those?
What do you know of eternity?
There is an energy within us that can be defined as the true self, the soul maybe.
The material world is real, we are real, but we and the world are the prison entrapping our souls.
It can be neither created nor destroyed. When we die, it moves to another to repeat the cycle. It's what gives us life and it's infinitely recyclable. I don't think it identifies with us though, it's simply energy, like electricity. We are machines with a single spark kicking everything off, the true self is that spark.
The more I think on this, the more it becomes beautiful and disgusting at the same time. Your reward for suffering? More suffering and maybe some good times in between.. but that's from the human perspective, not the soul's. I don't know if the soul gives a shit about us.
I just can't comprehend why anyone would willingly walk into a raw deal like this, where they are completely at the mercy of genes and the environment. Were we tricked?
According to your own perspective you cant even have the ability to make a deal, youre just a meat puppet filled with some weird ass electricity
Youre not even a thing according to it and it doesnt matter
fair enough
I will say though, no-one would choose this life. There are a lot of lives no-one would choose. Machine beings makes the most sense to me. If you scale life down to the very beginning, that's the answer I find. Genetic machines mutating slightly through sunlight each generation, and the rest is genes; Selection being based on environment.
If we can't choose to will away brain tumors, or will a lost arm or leg to regrow, then our minds are just as mechanical as our bodies. Though the paradox is it's still us, and we CAN choose, but we ourselves are determined.
Ok
And what do you intend to do with that knowledge?
Reincarnation isn't real either
OP here. I hope it isn't. I've learned too much about this world to want to do it again.
This is how you escape, by realizing it's not real. There are different levels of realization. You need to understand it deeply.
It's called entropy, kid.
Sit around. We got a lot of quantum doo-doo to talk about. After that, I'll get you a warm cup of hot cocoa with milk and send you back off to Earth to do this shit all over again..
OH FUCK HE'S MAKING A RUN FOR IT.
We live in a soul recycling center so to speak. Fragments of cosmic beings wandering in the universe are attracted to this "planet" in order to reprogram themselves and be able to get back home.
However, It has been hijacked by evil entities that use the energy of these beings to keep themselves afloat.
The universe is vast and complex. We are part of something much bigger but few will be able to experience that.
Most souls are beyond repair and will be absorbed by some of these evil entities and cease to exist completely.
Why are said souls wandering? Why are said souls unable to go home without this?
>Most souls are beyond repair and will be absorbed by some of these evil entities and cease to exist completely.
Where's God in all of this? Where's Jesus? To put it in simple terms where are the good entities
Reincarnation is not real. Once you die it's over, nobody will judge you and you aren't going anywhere after. You simply cease to exist.
They can create unlimited humans on the other hand so life will never stop existing here on earth.
I hope it isn't real. I definitely feel like I've lived before.
It's a crucible. You're meant to stay here until you're not, like a practice course
Humans
Most try hard to deny their purpose is to work together towards raising stronger and better humans.
No things are real they just don't have properties unless they are measured. Which is like woah.
nature abhors a vacuum? not as much as my dog.