My wife doesn’t want to have sex anymore. She’s always “tired” from work, house stuff, baby, etc. I do help with everything I can, but she’s just always “tired”.
Is it morally wrong for me to find someone else to have sex with? I’m not gross, there are plenty of people who would want to have sex with me, so is it wrong to deny myself just because she can’t handle her lot?
>Is it morally wrong for me to find someone else to have sex with?
Yes it is. But its also morally wrong for your wife to not please you, thats part of the marital vows. You need to talk with her and either help her get her shit sorted, find something that works for both of you, or she will have to relieve herself of those duties and you will have to find someone else.
>thats part of the marital vows
is it
like it's a legal document that the female must have sex even if she works 50 hours a week and raising kids by herself while OP posts on LULZ about how attractive he is and he could fuck anyone
>is it
It is, and God help anyone man or woman who doesnt understand that going in
okay but what about when there's a baby involved
gonna ruin its life as well because you had to go cheat on your wife being the 25 year old coomer that you are
It's a responsibility you signed up for. You don't have to live up to your responsibilities but it's shitty if you don't.
The husband is legally obligated to only fuck you and you are just going to just not live up to your half of the bargain?
Fuck off you worthless twat. You've never pushed a baby out of your cunt, let alone found a guy who wants to be around you longer than 1 hour.
>to love and to cherish, until parted by death. This is my solemn vow
i don't know anon, i don't think I would feel loved by my partner if we weren't at least fucking every so often
and on her part if OP was doing something that didn't make her feel loved, i wouldn't want to fuck him either
Kej
>like it's a legal document that the female must have sex
Yes. It's called a birth certificate
No, God help you for misunderstanding what you preach. Yes, a wife is called to please her husband. But this is to be pleasing in all things. And that requires reciprocation, for the husband to please the wife.
Lawyering around and interpreting the marital vows to complain about a dry sex life isn’t out of desiring a pleasing reciprocity, it’s a bitter cry that you’re unable to please yourself. Big difference.
When the sex goes dry, it’s because the wife is unpleased. Not with the husband directly, but for how cold or dead the dynamics of the relationship have become. For the flame she first saw in her husband going dim.
Who knows what OP’s situation is in detail. What I do know is this much: When you stop dating your wife, the sex stops. Codependency and cohabitating is a hell of a sex drive killer.
>And that requires reciprocation
Don't bother, OP thinks it's okay to have sex with an unwilling person.
Every time I see a woman lie or manipulate something into being "rape", I care less and less if women as a collective get raped or killed, just so you know.
Op said sex is her lot in marriage, so it should happen even if she doesn't want it. That sounds kinda bad, don't you think?
>OP thinks it's okay to have sex with an unwilling person
jesus, you're either a fucking retard with zero reading comprehension, or you're a woman, which is just as fucking retarded. OP did *not* say he wants to force his wife to fuck him. he's asking about going out and finding someone else to fuck. how in the fucking hell did you miss that?
Of course he doesn't want to force her, that's not what I meant either. He think she owes him sex no matter how she feels and even if she doesnt want it. But it's not going to improve his family life. If he keeps nagging and the wife gives in without actually wanting sex, she's going to find him more and more annoying. Unhappy home is the result, best case. Worst case, divorce because annoyance tend to feed off each other. Even cheating is better, provided she never knows. Also I still don't get why OP can't buy a fleshlight.
>But it's not going to improve his family life
You wanna bet? I'd bet good money that it would improve things if she would just force herself. She can't just force herself to let him fuck her til he cums, that's not the fucking point. She has to force herself to fuck him like.. she has to force herself to WANT to have sex again. Don't you think everyone would be happier if she did that?
> she's going to find him more and more annoying
Yeah well you know, wouldn't be annoying if she'd stop acting like a goofy ass ho. What part of not fucking anymore is supposed to make her want to fuck him again? That's so dumb it's ridiculous. She should start fucking him again, don't treat it like a chore, treat it like she used to treat it, god damn, what's the deal? Didn't she like it before? Or did she not? Cause that's a whole different story
>Worst case, divorce because annoyance tend to feed off each other. Even cheating is better, provided she never knows.
No, force her to have sex, every night if you can, or however often you had sex before this shit got like this. Surely she wants it to be like before too, right?
you seem a little unhinged there
>you seem a little unhinged there
Is that your way of saying "yeah, that does sound like a good idea?"
nah
And as always the cuck arrives reflexively shifting all blame away from the woman
This. I couldn't imagine having a bitch in my house that wouldn't please me daily. Threaten to find another woman and see how she acts.
>wife is "tired" from a baby
lmao what a dumb bitch, being tired from a new born baby
when I have kids in the future I won't be tired at all lmao babies are like house plants you only need to check on them once a day or something
I bet this post is going to be funny when the LULZner who reproduced reads it!
Did you not get the sarcasm?
Are you that retarded?
He's literally right, though.
See, the funny thing about house plants is that most people don't check on them once a day, they just let them rot.
Same with children. Just spend ANY amount of time at them. It's not hard, but the average parent is incapable of this.
Really think about it, ask yourself how often your mom or your dad explicitly went into your room as a kid and spent time with you. It probably didn't happen at all.
To parents, children are annoying liabilities and not worth the effort. So in their minds, they think changing your diapers and keeping you fed is enough, when it's the bare minimum.
So the wife being "tired" is not only neglecting her baby, she's neglecting her husband too. Just complete fucking apathy. That's not a partner, that's a parasite.
Imagine unironically getting married to someone, having a kid with them and then disassociating into La La Land. That's apparently the norm for most people nowadays. And you want to tell me I should participate in this system when my parents barely spent any time with me growing up? LMAO.
>Same with children. Just spend ANY amount of time at them. It's not hard, but the average parent is incapable of this.
True dat
>Really think about it, ask yourself how often your mom or your dad explicitly went into your room as a kid and spent time with you. It probably didn't happen at all.
Like every day or at least a few times a week.. Even when my gf moved in with us (the day we graduated HS) my dad would still come home drunk sometimes at midnight and bust in my bedroom, half the time we would be in the middle of fucking. He'd just walk in anyway too, sit down and start talking to us lol. Ahh she hated that shit, the bitch..
But yeah I've realized that might not be how things went for everyone and that sucks
>So the wife being "tired" is not only neglecting her baby, she's neglecting her husband too
And she's neglecting herself too. Like I said earlier,
>Just tryin to help, baby! Tryin to cure that stress, not let you sit around wallowing in it. And don't even give me that too tired to fuck excuse, cause what helps a person sleep better than some fuckin?
>Ayy bb you know what fixes that stress, right?
>That's prolly why you're so stressed out and tired, dear
Women just love it when you tell them they need some dick, but sometimes it's fucking TRUE, and if you spend a lot of time with them or live with them, you can fucking tell, trust me. I swear to god, I've tried to fuck girls the same way you'd try to get a kid to take their medicine. It's not for me or my "needs," are you kidding? I mean, yeah, I NEED her bitch ass to take her medicine so she quits driving me crazy, depressing me and shit, but I don't NEED the sex
Shut up and take your medicine, ho
This is so true lol they just turn the TV on or throw an ipad at you. My dad hated that shit so he just made us read books but it was still lonely. We read all day and behaved as the simplest step out of line was an ass beating. In a way my father didn't have to deal with the stress of raising children(other than the financial burdens) but now none of them talk to him
>My dad hated that shit so he just made us read books but it was still lonely
>Made you read books
>Didn't read the book with you
Holy shit, how is that better than the TV/ipad? (You had ipads growing up, wtf how old am I?)
Meanwhile my dad and even my mom would sit and watch Dragon Ball Z with me and shit lol. My mom loved playing Perfect Dark on N64 with me, my dad would play anything I asked him to. Shit, he'd sit there and watch the same fucking movies with me over and over. I bet we've watched Terminator 2 150+ times, bare fucking minimum. If I was watching a movie or show on TV, he'd just come sit down and watch with me, he might know the movie and be like "oh hell, Judge Dredd? MY BOY!" (picrel literally 2 weeks ago texting him)
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>the simplest step out of line was an ass beating. In a way my father didn't have to deal with the stress of raising children(other than the financial burdens) but now none of them talk to him
And believe it or not, I was probably one of the most well-behaved and least stressful children you could ask for. I would have hated to do something to stress my parents out
I dunno what my point is with all this, other than that shit sucks, man, what the fuck? These things are the whole point of having kids, right? What is wrong with people? Just throw the thing in the dumpster if you don't want it, god damn
What a stupid arrogant post
>"tired"
She is tired, you moron, and sex is not supposed to be some kind of lot.
>Is it morally wrong
Yes, it is, but technically nothing is stopping you.
I have the same problem. I have tried to get my wife to have sex more but she’s just out of it and can’t because things are still rough down there. I understand but I can’t go without sex for too long. I’ve considered cheat as I have truly exhausted all of my options but haven’t done it and don’t want to. Will be monitoring thread.
Handjobs? Blowjobs? No?
>sorry hon, too tired
Neither of you deserve your children.
>oh boy I can't wait to get married to have so much epic sex everyday
who genuinely thinks this
marriage, especially kids, is where the sex life goes to die a slow death.
This, unless you have a mistress or a fuck load of porn then getting married+kids? Say goodbye to sex my man. This is why most guys fool around while the wife is pregnant or the baby is newborn, guys don't have a reset refractory period as long as women. As soon as a guy makes a kid, he can easily make another with gusto whereas a woman has to calm down in the first few years.
Married 14 years over here and we fucked 3 times in the past week or so. We also fucked 3 times in the past MONTH, so it runs hot and cold, but I can assure you the 2-3 weeks without happened for one reason only, and that reason is we didn't make it a priority. Allow this to happen at your peril, because you will fall out of love. Sex is incredibly important and yes you should do it even when you are not in the mood. When you are old enough you will never just get in the mood out of nowhere. The mood comes from getting her out of her clothes, not the other way around.
>Married 14 years over here and we fucked 3 times in the past week or so. We also fucked 3 times in the past MONTH
Yo, if I regularly went 3 weeks without fucking at all, or only fucked 3 times in a whole month, then that'd be about the end of that fucking deal
Y'all sleep in the same bed, right? I don't even understand how you can go one day, or, okay, let's say TWO days without having sex with someone that you are sharing a god damn bed with! How?! Why?!
Let's remove fights and sickness and stuff like that from the equation, I'm talking just your average days (note that I think you oughta be fuckin even if you do get in a fight, or prolly even if you're sick lol, but I'll let that shit slide). On your average days, how can you share a bed with someone and not fuck? I just don't get it
The woman just refuses to. Perhaps some women are simply less sexual or perhaps we are just sincerely not attractive, or - most likely - some combination thereof. But it is a particularly common problem.
Have you had a wife and raised a newborn and stuff? That time in particular is very delicate.
>Perhaps some women are simply less sexual
What many men don't get is that most, albeit not all, women do not have the male monke urge to fuck 24/7. When a man claims sex is a need, he looks fucking crazy in a woman's eyes because she usually has a lower libido and can control it very well (testosterone is terrible for impulse control).
>Is it morally wrong for me to find someone else to have sex with?
Yes, adultery is wrong
Never ever get married. A brilliant English teacher once said "the love is drained the second you put a ring on that finger" and that sentence has stayed with me ever since.
OP here.
It’s not like I’m some kind of addict. I don’t even have a high sex drive. I’d be completely fine having sex once or twice a week.
It’s been 2 months, and I do literally 50% of all of the housework and childcare. We’re both tired.
Maybe it’s just a guy thing, but I have to literally be so tired I can’t stand up in order for me to not even be horny. What normal person only has sex or gets aroused when they are wide awake?
this does not sound like a “tired” issue to me. It seems intentional.
Have you discussed it with her?
Yes, she says she’s tired.
Okay, so she said the solution would be for me to make enough money to support us. Then I’d “get sex all of the time!”
Oh so it's the job that's making her feel like shit, not the childcare. Good news.
I know, that’s what i said. But it’s a combination. A newborn is way easier than a 9 month old.
Trying to figure that out.
Child is 9 months, C-section.
You haven't seen nothing until it gets near the 2yo barrier. I miss when he was this young!
Dont misunderstand me, both of us love and care for our son to death, but that also hit our sex life hard. We even sleep on separate beds (actually ive been sleeping in a hammock for the past 1,5 years) since our kid sleeps with her in bed so she can take care of him.
That's bad for your kid.. i don't want to meddle but the thing that fucked me up was the fact that my mum was way too fucking nice to me. I was basically a child i started rebelling. Now, my brother didn't rebel and he's still a child living with mummy at 27.
If your relationship gets fucked because of this, it's going to influence him negatively on top of that.. take care of your relationship with your wife, take care if yourself (your back must be dying?) And discipline your kid
op your wife was cut open two months ago, her organs removed and a watermelon taken from inside her uterus, and you think she's just gonna bounce back and let you pound while the infant is in the other room screaming?
you have responsibilities now, your relationship isnt just for sex or show, you have a wounded woman and a newborn child to take care of. step up. sex is on the backburner for now.
My parents' solution was to ditch me at the grandma's for a week and go camping. Repeat a couple times a year.
>Yes, she says she’s tired.
she's tired from all that 19yo BBC getting her back blown out
>It’s been 2 months
It's very likely her pussy still hurts but she doesn't want to tell you. Also breastfeeding is known to nuke sex drive in some women because hormones.
Our child will be 9 months in a couple weeks. And was a C-section.
Nigga what? The fuck is the issue then?
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>Our child will be 9 months in a couple weeks. And was a C-section.
Scratch my last post, she's hormonally fucked up, cheating on you or masturbating with a jackhammer. If she has a vibrator hide or destroy it. That'll answer that question.
Must be hormones, because we’re together almost 100% of the time. Both work from home, etc.
Could be the c section scar making her feel unattractive
>Could be the c section scar making her feel unattractive
Could be that all she wanted was the baby and now that she's got it, she doesn't have much use for OP's dick anymore
Orr could be that she THOUGHT she wanted the baby, but now that she's got it, she's realized that you have the baby 24/7, not just when you want to play with them or show off how cute they are on social media, but ALWAYS, and that's a little more than she bargained for, so she's regretting it and hating life
Or maybe OP is the one who wanted the kid and he talked her into it, and she thought it might be alright, she loves him so she'll do it for him.. and she realized all the above things, and that she was right in the beginning, now she regrets it, hates life, and hates him for talking her into doing something she didn't want to do, and something that is fucking permanent on top of that
Or maybe OP has been treating her different since she had the kid? Like he's fucking her like she's a mom now instead of fucking her however he used to? That'd be gross as fuck
The 9 months is more important than that she had a c section. A c section doesn't mean she can have painless sex. Her entire abdominal muscles were ripped apart and need to reconnect.
>It’s been 2 months,
Her cooter is still repairing man, I've got 3 rugrats 4th on the way. She'll be like this for maybe another month, less if she's breastfeeding, breastfeeding will just tease her for until the baby is done then when she lays him down you two go to pound town. Hang in there, you're at the hardest part.
>Maybe it’s just a guy thing
It is, women literally can't do it if they are stressed or tired
it depends on the woman. i am a woman
sex is hard when im stressed and/or tired, i have a lot to worry about. i feel a little disrespected when i have a lot on my mind or havent slept much and my partner wants me to set that aside. we do have sex, but i cant do it every night. i love him for him, not his dick, so i dont really feel the need to fuck him every night. most nights its enough just to cuddle and be held
>My wife doesn’t want to have sex anymore. She’s always “tired” from work, house stuff, baby, etc. I do help with everything I can, but she’s just always “tired”.
Did she used to fuck all the time, then stopped after some point? At what point was that? Hopefully not shortly after getting married lol
>Is it morally wrong for me to find someone else to have sex with?
Without asking? Kinda yeah, depends what all you've tried to get your wife to fuck
>there are plenty of people who would want to have sex with me
What's that got to do with anything?
>so is it wrong to deny myself just because she can’t handle her lot?
What do you mean "handle her lot?" What's going on here? Is she not paying her half the rent or what did I miss?
>sex is hard when im stressed and/or tired, i have a lot to worry about.
Ayy bb you know what fixes that stress, right?
>i feel a little disrespected when i have a lot on my mind or havent slept much and my partner wants me to set that aside
Disrespected lol. Just tryin to help, baby! Tryin to cure that stress, not let you sit around wallowing in it. And don't even give me that too tired to fuck excuse, cause what helps a person sleep better than some fuckin?
>but i cant do it every night.
Do you work 18 hour days or something? Wait, there'd still be time to fuck real quick..
>so i dont really feel the need to fuck him every night.
I beg to differ. That's prolly why you're so stressed out and tired, dear
>most nights its enough just to cuddle and be held
Oh see, you are full of shit then! You have time to cuddle but not to fuck?! Come onnnn
>Ayy bb you know what fixes that stress, right?
>You have time to cuddle but not to fuck?!
yes but i have to be horny to have sex. stress means i cant get horny. its not a light switch for women like it is for men :p
Women say this shit, then cum harder than ever before when being raped. What?
This happens to literally everyone who has kids, it's a biological thing
>This happens to literally everyone who has kids, it's a biological thing
It's not a biological thing. I'm not exactly what it is, but it's not biological
Could be several things, but I think one problem is people are just dumb when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth. How many people don't fuck when the woman is pregnant, even? And then how many wait months after she has the kid before they fuck? Shit man, you might have done a whole year with no fuckin, you might just be out of the groove
Plus a lot of bitches will let themselves go when they're pregnant (aka get out of shape), and they'll have time off of work, or the crazy fucks who let her quit her job and stay home because of the baby.. yeah, now she's lazy, out of shape and out of the groove, she prolly don't wanna do nothin, and once she's not pregnant anymore, she has no reason for her doing nothing, and it turns into depression and shit, it's a mess
Send her fat ass back to work, with love of course. Oh, and force her to start fucking EVERY NIGHT DAMN IT! It'll be good for her, not just for you, seriously
And don't treat her differently cause she had a baby either, she's still your dirty whore from before, and no her god damn pussy isn't broken now
You played yourself. Pleasing you will never be her top priority ever again. She has a kid.
>You played yourself. Pleasing you will never be her top priority ever again. She has a kid.
Grosss, this whole thing makes me want to vomit. First of all, it's not about her pleasing him, it's about them having sex, which is pleasing each other. Second, the thought that there are people out there who would want their wife/gf to care more about "pleasing them" than they care about their children is disturbing. That's his kid too, he should want her to care more about the kid than him, god damn
Gross, man, gross, now excuse me while I talk about how raping your wife isn't too bad of an idea..
>Look at this image OP, it holds the secret to saving your marriage
It's actually sorta true except in picrel he is raping her for himself. You can't do it like that, you gotta rape her for HER sake, or for both of y'all's sake, the sake of the relationship, and your love :^) You have to rape her with love!
>Maybe it’s just a guy thing, but I have to literally be so tired I can’t stand up in order for me to not even be horny
Yeah. It's a guy thing. She just gave birth and is breast feeding. She has to take care of a baby. No biological reason for her to have a sex drive now.
Don't punish her for her birthing and raising your baby ffs. Have some patience.
the absolute state of "no sex before marriage" cels
I'm living the same dichotomie as you, OP! Can't blame you thinking about cheating as i also think about this situation daily. My wife was also my first serious GF and we've been together for the last 6 years and now we also have a kid together. She always is really tired and depressed (Cant blame her on that) and just got worse when she was fired from her last job; Now i'm responsible for all the expenses at home and what bothers me is that i can't leave her stranded since she has no income; I do really love her, but our relationship as a couple turned (to my eyes) into an "friendship"; She has lost most if not all interest for me and i'm starting to also feel the same and get interested at other women.
inb4: We did couple therapy for months and it helped us to stop most of our fights and be more willing to speak our real feelings, but that did little to nothing on helping us getting us closer especially at sex.
>having a kid with your first serious gf
Man you fucked up royal.
I did it also.
It’s horrible. I’ve got a beautiful family so I can’t look back on my life to harshly. But damn I wish I’d worn that fucking condemn
This is why I'm not having a kid till 35. I'm barely 32 and I still got alot of mindless fucking left in me. Only way I'm committing to this shit is when I'm burnt out on random whores at bars. Hell this is the main reason I dont nut in my chick anymore.
OP here. If I could do it again, I would definitely have a kid EARLIER. I’m 32 this year, and I am starting to feel it.
I thought I was sleep deprived before. Jeez.
I should have had this kid 5-7 years ago.
I can agree that having a kid in the 20's is still better because you have more energy but i think it can be worse if you're still starting a carrer, since it robs most of your time (if you want to be present father). I've gotta say that is really not easy to raise a child, but at least to me is also a pleasure to see he growing and learning new things. I think he's the sole reason why i'm still coping with this situation.
>i can't leave her stranded since she has no income
If the roles were reversed she'd leave you without a doubt.
Also Inb4: My wife and i have a age difference of 15 years; I'm 27 and she's now 41. At the beggining of the relationship we couldn't care less about age, but now this gap is showing the cons.
.....man fuck outta here with your retardation. You're in your prime complaining about a bitch way past hers. No fucking shit your sex life is dying you fuckwit. She was fucking while your stupid ass was still learning to walk, she's probably dicked out by this point.
You think i dont know about that? LOL
IDK, in the past ive always had more atraction for older women; Now reality is hitting in my face.
>you don't think I know that?
Clearly you fucking don't if you thought knocking up a woman in her late 30's when you were in your mid 20's is the best move. You're simply dumb as fuck. Call it a mommy fetish, or older woman having a sugarbaby, but regardless of what it is, you are one stupid motherfucker. That fact is clear. Enjoy taking her to the doctor for older woman problems while you try to work on your career and money.
Sex is fun, if you are tired it should rejuvenate you. Idk how to help you but your wife decided to marry you she should be giving you sex.
It's not that simple anon; Unless you have no morals or feelings for the other person. But i had times that i had forced sex with my wife just because she wanted to help me with my urge; But it actually was worse than not having sex. I don't know how to explain better but it feels "hollow"; The action happens but it has no feeling, no desire. At least that's what i feel.
Agreed. Forced sex doesn’t fix the problem
Having a somewhat attractive, not obese, not mentally unstable, wife with a sex drive seems to be a very low statistical probability.
I don’t buy that a lot of woman I know aren’t fronting and crazy as shit in private
I'm thinking of ways on sorthing this out; Helping her on getting a new job again and also getting a better job for me so i cant both pay for a rent and also keep taking care for the expenses of our son.
Like i've said, i do love her, but now it's turning like into a "mother's love"; I want to keep helping her with what i can, but i also want sex with someone that also desires me,
OP here.
The reason I ask about morality is because she always seems to get mad and annoyed when I try to come on to her. If I wasn’t hitting on her, then she’d be less annoyed = happier, right?
I think that both of us have to be responsible in this case and talk directly about the issue. These tatics didn't worked out for me. When i stopped getting closer to get sex, she just chilled and wouldn't react back
I hope you get rectal cancer.
>Kids
Accept that it's over.
Are you unable to financially support her on your own or something? Why does she have to work? She'd be less tired with the baby
I'm gonna laugh if this is a trad marriage and this/that but no stay at home mom
She makes 2x what i do. Her job is just stressful because of poor management.
It's not cheating if you don't catch feelings. Your problem is what whores are for.
Yes. Divorce her first you passive-aggressive bitch.
Tell her: sex is the glue in a relationship. If we don't maintain it, I'm scared we'll end up as friends and maybe lose eachother... I don't want to lose you *name* -cue crying-
Nice tutorial on how to get chore starfish sex once a month.
It's a start init.
Once you get it started, actually be good and maybe her mind will change.
/sarcasm
sex changes in a relationship. you didnt marry her for sex, but sex is still important to us as humans. she is clearly going through a lot, but you have sexual needs too.
have you talked to her OP? ask her before you ask LULZ, because she knows herself better than us fucks. sex doesn’t look the same in every relationship, maybe she would be open for you to satisfy your needs outside of her. i know people who have rules like "just dont meet up with someone more than once". it sounds like you need to talk with her and see what you and her are comfortable with in fulfilling your sex life. maybe she doesn’t feel sexy anymore now that shes had a kid, maybe she needs some sexy lingerie or toys, maybe she needs spice too, explore your options friend
This is just how marriage used to work, once the wife was done having kids the pussy was closed for business and you fucked your secretary.
Provoking her to jealousy may get a spark going. Go to the gym more often and try gaining female friends. See if that causes anything. Her frustration and angst may turn into jealousy. And, pressure bursts pipes. It may even cause an argument. But all of that frustration will eventually turn into rough, wild sex.
You just gotta appear to be moving along just fine without her sex. She'll wonder why you don't beg anymore. And of course, you are not to cheat on her. The key is to make her seem as though you've moved on from her sexually even though you really do desire it.
You have a child and are willing to decimate his future by getting a new woman because you are a coomer retard. I seriously hope you think about your child(that you willingly brought into the world) with every action you do. Divorce will decimate your family line for generations. My mom cheated on my dad and it was hell. I still haven't recovered from all the bullshit that happened.
OP, BUY A FLESHLIGHT AND SOME LUBE
>Is it morally wrong to cheat?
HMMMMMM
Look at this image OP, it holds the secret to saving your marriage
kinda hot ngl
>confront rapist about raping you
>get raped
>surprised pikachu
hey OP I'm in a similar boat. my wife dislikes penetrative sex at a baseline, but used to love oral and used to give oral all the time to keep me pleased. we fuck regularly, but i know that it's because i want it and not because she wants it.
our youngest kid is almost 3 now and the big sex drive happened right after kid 1 was born, boom. went from sex all the time to literally 0 unless i initiate and even then i know for a fact that she just tolerates it. it feels good to her, but she can't orgasm by penetration anymore and does not want me to go down on her. fuckin wild. it's all in their heads man.
she said for a long time she felt like she couldn't reconcile this feeling that her body was no longer a sexual entity but a life-providing one (she breastfed up until a year ago) and still can't shake that feeling, so it weirds her out to feel sexual pleasure aside from external, vibrator type contact (which she never does on herself and seems to only kind of enjoy when i do it to her, vs 4 years ago i would make her cum 3 to 4 times a session).
some women are JUST built to stop wanting sex after kids for a while. it'll come back, but it sucks in the interim. my wife has asked if i want to fuck other chicks because she sees how hard it is on me to feel unwanted and totally unfulfilled sexually, but i am not sure i could bring myself to do that (either prostitute, or "meeting another woman", both feel gross to me).
talk to her. the line about needing you to make more money is FUCKED, though, and generally makes your situation sound way worse than mine.
>picrel, decently long BDSM session from a few years ago that i wonder if literally it could ever happen again
she still wants to get tied up and massaged all the time, but has virtually 0 self-interest in pleasuring me or feeling good herself, and it's fucking shitty
>big sex drive happened
big sex drive "drop off" happened**
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These kinds of dynamics are very commom in marriage and should be talked about more often
>she said for a long time she felt like she couldn't reconcile this feeling that her body was no longer a sexual entity but a life-providing one
women remain the number 1 perpetrators of objectifying women
Divorced guy here. It's only a matter of time before you cheat, the temptation gets worse with every passing year and there's something about a sexually frustrated married man that scandalous women can smell and try to take advantage of.
All I can read is
>"How dare my wife take care of the house and of that screaming gremlin that demands 24/7 care (which I put in her womb by the way) and not serve MY PENIS? How dare she not have energy to be my cum dumpster whenever I want to despite the fact being my cum dumpster is what put her in this predicament in first place? I'll find another object to replace this broken one (which I broke, by the way)! Who cares about how she'll feel like? Who cares if she's gonna feel betrayed? She's not a human being to me, she's just a cum dumpster, breeding cattle, a housework slave and an object who must serve me at all times! My penis is the most important thing in this equation, it mustn't be left unattended or it will kill me in my sleep, or even worse, make me gay!"
Bitch, she's a human being. She gets tired of serving you all the time and you want her to serve you even more, beyond her human capacities. Just buy a fucking Tenga, move to a smaller house where she has tp do less chores or lighten her lopad by doing some chores yourself, you sex addicted buffoon.
>Bitch, she's a human being. She gets tired of serving you all the time and you want her to serve you even more, beyond her human capacities. Just buy a fucking Tenga, move to a smaller house where she has tp do less chores or lighten her lopad by doing some chores yourself, you sex addicted buffoon.
What about if he tells her it's cool if she is tired and wants to go to sleep, he doesn't need her to be awake to fuck her? Fair enough?
You are so incredibly based, OP is a piece of shit
>It's okay to neglect tasks as long as you do other, totally unrelated tasks.
>I will simply neglect my partner's needs with no consequences.
>Just believe it's caused she's stressed, even though stressed people like to have sex more.
You seem to have neglected that OP is also a real human bean who has to live through being mistreated by his partner.
Has OP been suggested to take on those same responsibilities? It's a marriage, not a senior hs relationship.
Consider doing everything yourself, and letting her help you
Yes, this is what happens when you get married, women don't even really like sex they simply use it to get what they want.
Men in this thread are delusional if they'll think they can easily find a woman to cheat with, even single men have hard time getting a woman to fuck them without commitment, imagine the kind of landwhale a woman would have to be to fuck a loser guy with a dadbod who's cheating on his wife who JUST gave birth. The kind of desperate a woman had to be to fuck that type of guy is just... Wow.
I knew several men who tried to cheat and failed because of it, why would a woman fuck a man like you when she can just fuck a single normal dude no strings attached? The only times I've seen women sleep with married men was if they were after the money of wanted to break the marriage to satisfy their ego.
You sound like a horrible person. Are you actually helping her around the house? Doing the dishes without being asked, taking out the trash, watching the baby for her so she can go out or just have some alone time. Are you being romantic? Complimenting her, surprising her with flowers or her favorite snack or sending flowers to her work, bitches love that shit. Are you still going out to dinner or the movies with her, doing little getaways or just doing stuff with just the two of you? Are you doing any foreplay or just asking for sex? You have to get them in the mood, favorite alcoholic beverage, any small romantic gesture. Last and most important, have you actually talked to her about it? A real conversation. Your needs are valid and she should consider your feelings.