My gf and I were texting about donuts and she sent me a text mid conversation that said
“Wya? come shower with me(;”
Then started nervously sending other texts one after the other.
Was extremely out of place because I’m currently out of state.
Rightfully I called her out immediately, but I just want to know:
What are the chances she’s not cheating on me?
>What are the chances she’s not cheating on me?
The only hope you have is maybe she was texting a girl friend of hers to come shower with her, which I'd say is incredibly unlikely
Thats.. also inappropriate, wtf?? Are you 11?
>Thats.. also inappropriate
How? She's not with another guy so what is the issue?
>thinks he can't be cucked by a woman
You must be 18 to post here
>You must be 18 to post here
Everyone knows it's not cheating if it's with another girl
Call her a lying whore. Post the screencaps, I want to see this.
1/2
I never thought she would do this which is why I’m asking. Also I have a tendency to not trust anyone. She is sweet to me and so far the relationship has been extremely easy other than this.
2/2
Lmao this bitch thinking of other dick. Sorry OP.
Damn. This kind of texting brings back bad memories.
My condolences OP
lmao "did a text show up that i didn't send"
it is WILD how much condescension young guys will put up with
You both speak like naggers so I don't care.
*raises glass*
>"are you okay hun? I love you"
holy shit does this bring back flashbacks from a similar situation that I had with my ex. Those words are all lies, its panic behavior cause she knows that she messed up so she's trying to put on a cute face.
If I were you I could gtfo of there, she's obviously not paying attention to what you're messaging her either. She's definitely talking to someone else.
>D-did a text show up that I didn't send? I-i love you...
KEK
Why are women such bad liars?
Who the fuck does she think she can fool with this shit?
Holy fuck this is the most blatent case I've ever seen you sad sack of shit. That response was so pathetic too jesus christ grow a damn spine and throw her to the streets where she belongs.
It's not a clear sign of cheating, but it is suspicious, idk OP. Could be something, could be nothing. Mabe she just found your conversation about coffee and donuts very very boring and tried to lead the conversation in a more sexy direction. I mean it seemed boring to me.
>Mabe she just found your conversation about coffee and donuts very very boring and tried to lead the conversation in a more sexy direction. I mean it seemed boring to me.
That is fucking exactly what I was thinking. I would have done the same thing, except I wouldn't have felt bad about it the way OP's gf did. Immediately "sorry for interrupting" "you can keep texting, I'm not taking a shower yet.. as long as you want to keep talking about this boring ass shit, at least"
>Immediately "sorry for interrupting"
The sorry for interrupting to me seems like a reaction to OP suddenly going silent. Maybe she's used to apologizing too, I've met plenty of people who appologize waaaay to often.
>The sorry for interrupting to me seems like a reaction to OP suddenly going silent. Maybe she's used to apologizing too
lol maybe because if she ever says the "wrong" thing then OP gives her the silent treatment for who knows how fucking long, but only after putting her into panic mode first. It's typical fucking bullshit behavior. By the time he wakes up tomorrow he'll realize he was just being retarded, but he won't be brave enough to text her yet. He prolly won't talk to her til he gets back from whatever trip he's on. Note he'll have stopped freaking out by tomorrow morning, but she's gonna be freaking out until she hears back from him
Fucking shameless, and here he has a whole crew of retards telling him he's justified
Eh honestly I'm fine with the posts telling him to break up with her. It might be best for both of them in the long run. But yeah getting the silent treatment for something that she sees as nothing more than a silly interuption must be hard. And being left to wonder exactly what text it is, if it's the one you suggested or something else that crept in there must be a bitch too. Honestly I vote for OP breaking up with her.
It's done man. Even if she weren't cheating, she's showing that she can't be straightforward and honest.
Cut it off now before things get worse.
fuck i can feel for you op. that sinking feeling in your stomach seeing this. im sorry man, this does not look good. that does not seem normal
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Oh those are 200% hilariously bad damage control panic texts and the ‘I love you’ is just the Cherry on top
It has never been more over than it is now
The easiest way to get her to crack would have been to stop texting after she said that shower shit lie
The silence would have made her crack
Silence is deafening
>The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Do you think you know better than Shakespeare, OP?
I fucking hate you both for sounding so retarded
> I’m currently out of state.
>What are the chances she’s not cheating on me?
After reading the exchange, it's pretty obvious she is cheating on you. Seriously OP, get a new girlfriend. I remember when I took a screenshot of my snapchat conversation and it told the other person. I send a bunch of messages just like that to try and make it seem like an accident.
She's cheating, the fact that you're out of state and how that conversation went it's so obvious.
>Seriously OP, get a new girlfriend.
you say that as if it's easy
Yup that’s insanely suspicious. Can’t think of any thing but her talking to another dude with how weird that was and how nervous she got trying to kiss your ass afterwards too. I’d drop her ass tbh.
DID A TEXT SHOW UP THAT I DIDN'T SEND
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
THE GAS LIGHTING
MY GOD
im actually fucking upset at how boldly she is treating him like this and he just has no clue
what a shitty person
The whole thing has to be larp
It has to be
>DID A TEXT SHOW UP THAT I DIDN'T SEND
>so in denial, she tried to pretend it was never even sent!!!
Y'all niggas realize she isn't referring to the fucking wya shower text, right? She's saying "is there another text that you're talking about that I am unaware of?"
Like plenty of people have already said, she fucking QUOTED her own text, so why would she be implying she never sent it? That's not what she meant. She meant "what text are you talking about? What am I missing? What the fuck are you tripping about? I'm freaking out because you're freaking out!"
>come the fuck on... you aren't this dumb are you?
Nah he's fuckin right, dunno what to tell you. You just want things to go wrong for OP, don't you?
>this thread is bait, nobody is this retarded.
lol awww you and the rest of these misery loves company fuckers didn't convince OP to blow up his relationship? That's too fucking bad isn't it?
>This is a really good way to end the relationship, regardless of cheating status, because you will come across as an entitled psychopath.
Psh, if she caught me doing that I would just say "oh yeah, I was really paranoid because of that time you sent that fucking wya shower text, and I didn't want to seem crazy and interrogate you and shit sooo, yeah, I kinda started watching your cameras like a crazy person.." Pretty sure she'd understand lol. Like, if a girl did that to me, and said that to me, I'd be like "hmm, MAKES SENSE TO ME! Next time just ask!" and we go on our merry way
> If she was cheating or even planning to, she would just say "i'm gonna be busy today!" and not pretending to give a shit about your fucking coffee donut conversation lmfao
OR, she would pretend to give a shit that way he didn't suspect anything..
Yeah nah, she's not cheating, OP was just being a paranoid fucking pothead. I'm fucking at least 92% confident in this shit, and I have been cheated on and lied to plenty of god damn times in my life
Why do you type like a retard?
Because he's a low IQ white knight.
Why even give him attention?
>Why do you type like a retard?
Which parts sound retarded?
I'd guess it's because I try to type kinda like I would talk IRL. I think people who type all professional sounding and shit are usually homosexuals. People who try to sound smart generally aren't too smart, you know?
>Because he's a low IQ white knight.
What's your IQ? Cause I'm pretty sure that mensa Norway test said mine was 140+. Or how about ACT/SAT scores? I think my ACT score was 32.. What else is there to go off of?
>mensa Norway test said mine was 140+. Or how about ACT/SAT scores? I think my ACT score was 32
>I think my ACT score was 32
Woops I lied, it was 31, my bad
if you talk like this in real life you're a low IQ wigger and should definitely end it for yourself
>if you talk like this in real life you're a low IQ wigger and should definitely end it for yourself
I talk pretty similar to how I type, yeah. I might adjust how I type for clarity's sake but that's about it, unless I'm fucking around or something, but I would do that talking IRL too so yeah
How the fuck do you talk IRL? The way you type or what? You would say out loud "you're a low IQ wigger and should definitely end it for yourself?" lol
i scored a 34 on my ACT and i don't brag about it online. you know why?
An absolute fucking sperg can get a 36 on the act if they understand grammar and know how to count. english and reading are just grammar and reading comprehension. Math is just counting. Science is just knowing what the graphs say. There is no studying needed, you just need to have read a couple of books in your life
I scored a 420.69 on penis inspection day
>i scored a 34 on my ACT and i don't brag about it online. you know why?
I wasn't bragging, I was just sayin. He said the low IQ thing, so I said hey, I dunno my fuckin IQ for real, I did the mensa norway thing, and the next best thing I got is my ACT score, that's all. Why did that come off as bragging to you?
>An absolute fucking sperg can get a 36 on the act if they understand grammar and know how to count. english and reading are just grammar and reading comprehension. Math is just counting. Science is just knowing what the graphs say. There is no studying needed, you just need to have read a couple of books in your life
Ohh dude I dunno, whatever, show me proof of that 34 then. You're not wrong, but you're also kinda full of shit if you think anyone can waltz in and get a perfect score just by knowing how to count, read and write
> you're also kinda full of shit if you think anyone can waltz in and get a perfect score just by knowing how to count, read and write
After I got my score i was tutoring kids in Detroit of all places and my team boosted a ton of their scores. These kids weren't doing in better in school, we just hammered grammatical rules into them that they would have picked up if they had been reading books. Science was the same, we just boosted their scores by teaching them how to interpret graphs. Math was the only one that was hit or miss for students, and that's actually what dragged my score down both times I took it. Its just counting, but having a timer means you might rush and get things wrong
Look up any ACT test right now, you'll be able to pass English and Reading with at least a 34. If you know the who/whom rule then that's another point. The questions that trip people up are always stupid shit like that or when to use an oxford comma. You would be AMAZED at how easy the ACT is once you have a college reading level
>bragging about your act score on LULZ
holy autism batman
go away retard
Are you the same retard who was trying to convince the other anon to take his gf to a gloryhole?
Im getting sick of your overconfident braindead takes. Even the way you type is low iq.
>Are you the same retard who was trying to convince the other anon to take his gf to a gloryhole?
I did post in that thread but I think I told him not to take her since she straight up told him she didn't want to do it, right? I'm sure you're talking about me though, yeah
>Im getting sick of your overconfident braindead takes
Is it because I make sense? Seems like people hate that shit
>Even the way you type is low iq.
And I'm sure the way Mark Twain wrote was low IQ too right?
Please don't say "lol are you comparing yourself to Mark Twain?" btw
Maybe she's telling the truth maybe she isn't, only she knows the truth.
She couldn’t have been any more suspicious if she tried. Sorry bro.
Go back further, maybe a couple screenshots worth?
We were talking about coffee donut combos
>"Exactly bro"
>not one text later she's talking about a shower
You dumb homosexual lol
>using meme arrows on snapchat
Call her out. See
My condolences OP, now dodge that bullet.
It’s over
she obviously was just not reading the shit you were sending and messaging someone else
what is with the excessive amount of negrish language? are you or your gf black or just wiggers?
>Uhh no, that's retarded. If anything, if she somehow proved her innocence, you should gain trust for her..
>Just tell her that it seems like that shower text was meant for someone else, and tell her she's going to have to prove to you that's not what was going on
You know what, OP? While I still think you should do this ^
.. I think I fucking believe her. I think she really did just interrupt the conversation to tell you to come shower with her. Note the sad face along with the laughing face. If it was for someone else, why would she put a sad face? But since you're out of state, the sad face makes sense because she's kinda saying she misses you, right?
How much time was there between the "come shower with me" text and the ones she sent afterwards? Did you go silent for a while after the shower text?
Well anyway, yep, I fucking believe the bitch
>How much time was there between the "come shower with me" text and the ones she sent afterwards?
About 20 seconds after first the second came
About 5 seconds after they just kept coming
Yeah she isn’t cheating
You're a fucking retard.
retard
so in denial, she tried to pretend it was never even sent!!!
retard
>"ignore that"
>"what message?"
come the fuck on... you aren't this dumb are you?
Retard retard retard retard.
this thread is bait, nobody is this retarded.
I'm done here.
Ehh it doesn't matter, could explain that several different ways. I've already decided I believe her, and I feel confident enough to say you should at least give her a chance, but honestly I straight up believe her. She was just trying to tell you that she missed you and your cock
If im out of state, my girl isn't gonna send a text saying "wya?" You dumb motherfucker. She might say I miss you, or wish you were here or even a pic. But she knows I'm gone so why the fuck would she ask "wya?" You fuckers need to acquire some read between the lines skills.
>If im out of state, my girl isn't gonna send a text saying "wya?" You dumb motherfucker. She might say I miss you, or wish you were here or even a pic. But she knows I'm gone so why the fuck would she ask "wya?"
She's not actually asking you "WHERE ARE YOU AT?!" asshole. She's saying it like.. "wya, I want your dick" then the sad face because she KNOWS you're out of state, right, therefore sadness because she can't have the dick, and then haha funny face because she was just playing around (exactly what she said btw, including the damn laughing face afterwards)
Why the fuck would she send some other guy that message with those emojis? Doesn't make any sense
The mental gymnastics you're doing to spin this angle is comical. You're delusional. Just let OP accept his situation so he can start to heal. She definitely meant that message for someone else.
>The mental gymnastics you're doing to spin this angle is comical.
No dude, you're saying she's making a desperate attempt to PRETEND not to know what's going on, and I'm saying she just actually doesn't know what's going on. Which one is the mental gymnastics? Right. And the simplest answer is usually the right answer sooo
Okay? And what would someone who was telling the truth do? lol
>Okay? And what would someone who was telling the truth do? lol
For a starter they wouldn't quote the post they are lying.
>For a starter they wouldn't quote the post they are lying.
She's fucking trying to figure out which text he was referring to. What do you want from her? She probably deduced that was the one he meant, right?
Fuck it, explain the emojis on the shower text then
The sad one is coz she's horny and no one is there to take care of it, hence she's asking someone to take care of it. You dumb. You're also assuming all people use emojis the same way,which they dont.
>The sad one is coz she's horny and no one is there to take care of it, hence she's asking someone to take care of it.
Yeah that's what I fucking said from the start. She's sad because she wants OP's cock and she can't have it because he's out of state. If she was having a guy come over, she wouldn't fucking have that problem!
>You're also assuming all people use emojis the same way,which they dont.
I'm not assuming that. I'm fucking inviting anyone to enlighten me on some meaning I'm missing
It's not that she's sad OP can't come over, it's that she's sad she's horny. She's not asking OP to come over because she knows he can't, he's in a different state. She's asking someone else to come over but she sent it to OP instead, by accident. It's too random to say. If she was horny and wanted OP, she'd say something more in the lines of; "I wish you were back already".
Now in the case of her actually not sending it to the wrong person, and assuming it was meant for OP:
She acted like she didn't know what he was talking about, eventho she intentionally send him the text. That's not normal behaviour, that's the sign of a lie.
If she was horny and wanted OP's dick, the two would be sexting now. She intentionally changed the subject.
>I want you with me in the shower
>'ignore that'
-> first sign of panic
OP could've still said "i wish I could"
But she wanted to end that part of the conversation as quickly as possible. -> she panicked because she fucked up.
>he's in a different state
No fucking shit. Hence the sad and then laughing face
>She's asking someone else to come over but she sent it to OP instead, by accident.
Okay, then explain the sad and then the laughing face. Then explain the "sorry to interrupt" then explain fucking everything she said after that lol
>If she was horny and wanted OP, she'd say something more in the lines of; "I wish you were back already".
Oh my god. "WHERE ARE YOU AT?" That isn't the same thing as saying "I wish you were back?" REALLY?
>If she was horny and wanted OP's dick, the two would be sexting now.
That's exactly where the fucking conversation was supposed to lead, but OP tripped out, assumed she was cheating and completely stopped answering her instead. He coulda said "be there in a min" or fucking anything, god damn
>She acted like she didn't know what he was talking about
She's not fucking acting. Imagine you were her, and you were being honest and not cheating, and you got that response from OP. You gonna tell me there's no way you'd be confused? There's no way you'd say "wait, which text do you mean?" Note that she was apparently sending messages one after the other, so she was clearly upset and worried, right?
>She intentionally changed the subject.
??? To what? She changed it to the shower, he changed it to NOTHING. If a girl is texting you about showering, that's a pretty clear indicator she wants some dick, isn't it?
>But she wanted to end that part of the conversation as quickly as possible. -> she panicked because she fucked up.
What? She didn't end shit. He fucking asked if she meant it for someone else, then he just quit fucking responding, leaving her to become more panicked and send more and more messages that OP became more and more paranoid about, despite not TALKING TO HER ABOUT IT. What he's doing is leaving EVERYTHING up to his fucking imagination, and that's just fucking stupid. Not only is he freaking out, you know she is too
>the sad and then laughing face
Bro you don't even know what the emojis mean (I'll give you a hint: the "sad face" means "I'm horny and want dick") and you're still out here writing parapgraphs white knighting for some random cheating whore.
She's not gonna read this.
Are you OP's girlfriend?
Or just retarded?
Im going to hunt you down and eviscerate you
in minecraft
She's not gonna read this bro.
You can stop white knighting now.
Based.
I'm not even the guy you're arguing with. I'm just pointing out that you're gullible af. Actually, worse than that, you're the type that bends over backwards to give people outs because synthetic plausible deniability is easier for you than confrontation. If this were you, you'd probably throw this girl every escape in the book until she told you flat out she was lying.
>you're the type that bends over backwards to give people outs because synthetic plausible deniability is easier for you than confrontation
I'm the one that said to fucking confront her..
But I'm also fucking right about this one, so yeah
If that text was meant for someone else, why would she follow it up with "sorry for interrupting?" with the laughing face and shit?What the fuck would that mean if she was trying to cover her mistake? It wouldn't make any sense at all, whereas the way where she's telling the truth actually makes fucking sense
Y'all are just some misery loves company ass mother fuckers and you want OP's bitch to be lying and cheating but she's not, and as so many of you have accused me of.. you're fucking gaslighting now trying to convince me (and I would assume him) that she's guilty. Fuck that shit, explain the emojis, explain the "sorry for interrupting" text, explain these things
If she was lying, all he'd have to do is interrogate her a little and she would start raging at him and boom, you know the bitch is lying. This bitch is actually trying to figure out what he's trippin about and straighten him out. I'm tellin ya, bitch ain't lyin
Bro if I typed out a thoughtful and detailed response laying it all out, you'd just jump through a bunch of hoops to contradict me just like you're jumping through them to believe this girl.
Pass
Yeah yeah, what you mean to say is that you fucking can't do it
Whatever. If OP had installed the standard issue hidden cameras at his gf's house then he wouldn't have this problem but he's still an amateur it seems
Whatever you say simp.
I just hope you aren't this gullible with actual women in your life.
>Haha it was meant for you cuz I wanna shower w u
>Anyway I'm going to apologize for the text immediately after sending it, despite """MEANING""" to send it
Anon please
My condolences
>Why the fuck would she send some other guy that message with those emojis? Doesn't make any sense
Because she was texting with two people at the same time and confused the conversations. Happened to me before. OP is also a bore talking about coffee cups which she reluctantly entertains. The spicy stuff is with the other guy.
This, reminds me when I slipped up and called my ex the name of the girl I was casually fucking since we broke up, had to quickly make up a lie and say I was texting my supervisor about training practices and got momentarily confused. I could tell my ex was suspicious, but she had no other way to prove it wasn't just a slip of the tongue. Still smashed that night.
What if she wanted to exchange shower nudes and wants you to shower too?
she also wouldn't immediately shift from
>what do you mean? (confusion, the only response someone not cheating would have)
>no i was just playing (denial, feeling out of control so she's trying to get back control of the situation)
>did you get a message i didn't send? (wacko magical thinking gaslighting shit)
anyone buying this shouldn't be asked to ever watch anyone over the age of 6, they will be absolutely rolled by their inability to discern human flailing and deceit in the face of being caught
>she also wouldn't immediately shift from
>>what do you mean? (confusion, the only response someone not cheating would have)
>>no i was just playing (denial, feeling out of control so she's trying to get back control of the situation)
She doesn't even understand what he's tripping out about at that point though. She literally doesn't know which message he is asking about and she definitely doesn't know what the fuck he means by "was that text for someone else?" Think about this whole thing from her point of view
>>did you get a message i didn't send? (wacko magical thinking gaslighting shit)
Or she doesn't understand what the fuck he's trippin about and figures she must have missed something?
>She literally doesn't know which message he is asking about
What? She literally quotes it herself in a desperate (and pathetic) attempt to pretend to not know what is going on.
>What? She literally quotes it herself in a desperate (and pathetic) attempt to pretend to not know what is going on.
Yes, she literally quotes herself and says "THIS ONE?" which is a pretty clear sign she doesn't know for sure if he means that one or not, isn't it?
>says "THIS ONE?" which is a pretty clear sign she doesn't know for sure if he means that one or not, isn't it?
Anon...
Why do you let yourself be gaslit so easily? Have you literally never interacted with a liar? If they are confronted, pretending to not know anything is always the first thing they do.
That's not a sad face, that's orgasm face
I'm sorry bro
Who talks like this? This chat is nearly incomprehensible.
Public education has been successful in its goal to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator
I would say it's possible that she forgot you were out of town but the damage control says otherwise.
ogre
I can smell some other man’s seamen ozzoing out of her pussy from here.
>File no longer exists (404)
every single image on /adv/ does this and no other board. Why is this?
That aside, yeah it's probably over. If she was just being playful she wouldn't ask where you are at she would say she wished you were there or something. Also quit calling women "boo" it looks gay.
My browser wont open webms on adv and only adv. No amount of disababling adblockers fixes it.
So is isn't just me...
Image expansion on adv has been broken for years and asiaticmoot finds taking advertiser dick up his ass more important than fixing the site
Timestamps would help
>talking on snapchat
Lmao she ain't your girl bro snapchat is literally the hookup app
>boomers using the internet
It has never been more over than it is now.
I'm sorry bro.
I can't comprehend this. If you're going to do underhanded shit, maybe exercise the minimum amount of diligence needed and sext the correct individual.
you guys would probably communicate better if you didn't both talk like naggers
This bitch is in heat and getting railed hard
My condolences OP, choose your next wisely kek
What the fuck, do people actually talk like this? You sound like low iq zoomer idiots.
Bro I'm so sorry but the only correct thing to do is call her a whore.
It’s going to take a lot of balls, since things are up in the air right now, but you have to do it.
You have to call her a lying whore.
Up until she says did a text show up that I didn't send I think it could be either way but that's like her trying to say well I don't know if I even said that even though she's already replied to it. When women are caught in a lie they often flail randomly. You're not the first man to be cheated on but you can at least do the honorable thing and get rid of her
This. The fact she asked after directly addressing it means she was scrambling for an answer.
100%. The worst part is the “I love you <3” out of nowhere. Insanely manipulative behavior
I wouldn’t bother with the whole calling her a whore though, that’s how I’ve handled it in the past and I regret giving her the satisfaction of knowing it made me that upset. Block and move on
>nd I regret giving her the satisfaction of knowing it made me that upset. Block and move on
This. OP. You have a choice right now. Either text her and get to the bottom of it or just send "Hi, it's over" and move on with your life.
OP here. I’m really stoned so I’m not going to text her until tomorrow. Hopefully by then I can make a good decision. I want to believe her so bad bros wtf but I have trust issues and it’s been clean and clear up until now. So even let’s say she didn’t cheat I still lost that trust and I’ll be suspicious of her from now on. Sucks bros I think it’s over.
Forget trust issues, it’s never been so obvious
>So even let’s say she didn’t cheat I still lost that trust and I’ll be suspicious of her from now on
Uhh no, that's retarded. If anything, if she somehow proved her innocence, you should gain trust for her..
Just tell her that it seems like that shower text was meant for someone else, and tell her she's going to have to prove to you that's not what was going on
>Uhh no, that's retarded. If anything, if she somehow proved her innocence, you should gain trust for her..
How could she ever prove her innocence? In a case like this all she has to do is delete the other convo and screenshot her inbox without other dude in it.
How would you have her prove it.
How would you have her prove it?
All you need is nsa clearance
There’s people on discord that can get you basically anyones full Snapchat history even deleted pics.
There was a scriptkiddie hax0r here last night offering to find passwords to Snapchat accounts
If OP is really desperate I’ll scour the archives to find his contacts
My heart goes out to OP
>How would you have her prove it?
>There’s people on discord that can get you basically anyones full Snapchat history even deleted pics.
Yeah, I didn't realize the messages were on Snapchat. I know nothing about Snapchat, but I do know that you can usually recover deleted text messages pretty easily, same deal with Facebook messenger. I'd ask to do that, as well as just go through her phone in general. Can just go to the date of the shower and look at who all she was messaging. Also look at all the dudes she's been messaging and look for gaps in their messages around that date
Aaand then of course you gotta randomly ask her for her phone every few weeks to really make sure, just in case she was clever and hid everything really well. Of course, you can't tell her that you're gonna be doing that ahead of time, you gotta spring that shit on her lol
I'm sure there's more ways too. Obviously you can look at her location history on her phone, but if she was at home and had someone come over, that wouldn't help you any. I think I would just talk to her and go text by text with her and have her explain them to me. Like, why did you say "where are you at" when you fucking knew where I was at, bitch? And so on for each of the texts, and if she couldn't give a sufficient answer, then fuck her. If she gets mad and tells you that you're crazy, she doesn't have to explain shit to you? She's lying, fuck her. If she starts ranting about her privacy and you being controlling and how dare you accuse her of blahblahblah, fuck her, she's lying. Note that you can't be yelling at her and breaking shit when you do this shit, you gotta be calm and she ought to be calm, just fucking figure the shit out
>There was a scriptkiddie hax0r here last night offering to find passwords to Snapchat accounts
You actually believe that guy?
I was really hoping you’d call her a lying whore so that we could all rejoice and laugh about what she says in response.
The best option is never talking to her again, still, I think calling her a lying whore might give you some catharsis. It would be really funny, too.
Is she stoned? I send weird unrelated schizo texts when I’m high. I also get cold out of nowhere and start shivering and suddenly want a hot shower. If I missed my bf it might come out like this. I would be surprised if she is cheating. She wouldn’t be so chatty if she was secretly texting another dude at the same time.
To add to this, if I was high, talking about donuts (munchies) and showering (cannabis chills) back to back doesn’t seem weird at all.
>To add to this, if I was high, talking about donuts (munchies) and showering (cannabis chills) back to back doesn’t seem weird at all.
It's not weird either way but I'm pretty sure the shower comment is just because she's horny. She even says she's not actually going to take a shower right now lol. She might as well have said "I miss your cock.. hun.." Gross, who the fuck says "boo" and "hun" and shit?
your his gf aren't you
Stop making retarded excuses for a cheater. You guys sound like you're playing in the mental Olympics. She clearly, even at the end, tried to make it seem like she never even sent it.
OP delivered. You may be a cuck, but you will never be a homosexual, OP.
She's cheating.
She very obviously panic dumped texts afterwards.
Only this. Women lying and cheating, a story as old as time.
This thread kind of reminded me of my first relationship.
The girl used to go to bed really late and I would occasionally stay up to say her goodnight. Except I was too used to go to bed early and would fall half-asleep while texting. More than once I texted random stuff related to my dreams while uncontious and she got suspicious about it
Yeah shes cheating, cut your losses now and move forward OP or stick with being a cuck
Holy shit I've never seen such a obvious case of cheating before
I mean I have but not like this, someone slipping up bad while chatting.
Lol this
>wya
Yeah I didn't know what that was, I just looked it up, now it's just fucking ridiculous....
Well we have been given a full brain and critical thinking for a reason.
This isn't a philosophical question, and we don't need to reduce the number of hypothesis down to one. Comming to the conclusion that we can't really tell what's going on is perfectly acceptable too.
^you need to see when she cuckolding you
before take any conclusion
I actually think that was intended for you. My girlfriend does this verbally all the time when we're in a call. I know for a fact it's her vocalizing her want for what she has to wait for. I also do it. It's understandable that you didn't take it that way but I agree with that anon, the emojis indicate that she is sad and longing for you and laughing at herself because she wants it and can't have it.
But also stop talking like zoomers no cap fr fr.
>Trust your gut, be cold about it, tell her what you think and cut her off for good.
Yeah, don't do something crazy like THINK about things, just fuckin go with your gut and self destruct this whole fucking thing
Yes.
First impression is that she was cheating and that it was super obvious, but I can see a world where she's a moron, made a shitty non sequitur, and then subsequently fumbled the recovery because she's that much of a moron. The last text message is horrific, and the fact that she says "did someone else make you upset? I love you <3" instead of "hey are you alright, do you need to talk, can I call you?" is crazy to me.
I'm suspicious, but I also have no reason to trust her. If she's got a history of being "random" with you, you can take that into consideration. I say take whatever space you need to, just don't call her a whore or else she gets moral high-ground if she's truthful and vindication for her actions if she's lying.
>"did a text show up that I didn't send? I love you <3"
Yeah this is what tells me she's lying. Sure, it's possible the initial "wya, come shower with me" and that string of messages was her just being playful, up until "I was just playing," but then it starts to get suspicious when she asks "which one." It's like she suddenly realizes she could try to get out of it by feigning ignorance. When she adds the heart emojis... I don't know, I'm too familiar with that kind of texting to give it the benefit of the doubt
Also, that's not a sad face emoji, it's exactly like
said, I don't think I've seen that emoji used in any other context. I don't think that alone makes the initial message more suspicious, you could still interpret it as "she's horny and misses your dick"
This has been a problem for me in the past. I really think women are just too retarded to understand how their words/actions could be poorly received. Like how could anyone POSSIBLY think or feel differently about something than they do? They seem to lack empathy, can't put themselves in someone else's shoes.
So that scenario where she didn't respond to your texts because she "accidentally fell asleep at a totally platonic gay guy friend's house while watching a movie and he just let her sleep/stay the night" might seem innocent to her because she knows the guy and knows 100% that nothing happened. But to you or I, it seems like anything but innocent.
And shit like this ALWAYS seems to come up, they can't help but say or do fucked up shit that we would absolutely get in shit for if we did it. Then if you give her the benefit of the doubt, there's always lingering trust issues and questions in your mind that always kill the relationship.
Maybe I'm just insecure, but after so many of these experiences it just makes me not want to date anymore. Is it really too much to ask for a woman that's actually honest and straight up with you?
op get out of there
>What are the chances she’s not cheating on me?
You and me both know the answer to this man.
Holy fuck am I sorry for you, that is an unfortunate way to find out. If you keep fucking with her from this point on she will know that you know and lose major respect for you and probably dump you first. Do the respectful thing by yourself and leave her, but do not let her know that it is because of this. Just say ‘we should see other people.’
i hate women so much it's unreal
Um that’s cringe sweety. Just let your girlfriend cheat on you it isn’t that serious.
Act like you believe her. You have Carte Blanche to go try cheating for yourself to see if you like it. Sex is best when it's sneaky.
OP here
I’ve decided to apologize to her for my behavior, and claim the drugs made me paranoid and crazy.
I will be on the lookout from now on though, covertly. If she is cheating I need hard proof and if she is cheating I will findout.
Also she has given me zero reason to not trust her in the 2 years we’ve been together.
Don't say that its because of drugs.
>proof
It's not a murder investigation, you dope. You're just pussing out. It's only going to hurt more later, that is a guarantee.
I really hope you aren't OP.
If you are, you are a pathetic and gullible cuck and I hope she exploits you really hard so you can actually learn from your mistake.
You're probably an incel. You give the same advice if she had a bad hair day. You don't know what it means to invest in another person.
The way she reacted after the message - because the message itself isn't the problem- says that she's cheating (unless you have autism)
Good luck OP!
Good luck. I hope for your sake that she's just a brainlet or, at the very least, that you're able to find the hard proof and dump her first.
>throwing cannabis under the bus for a ho
How long did you take to respond to the "Wya, come shower with me" shtick? If you didn't respond after numerous hours she could have just gotten scared that it was too forward
If it was instanteous then it looks suspicious as fuck
He said earlier in the thread it took her 20 seconds to follow up then started rapidly messaging, which IMO is suspicious as fuck
Because it’s gaslighting, the term is thrown around a lot now but that’s exactly how it goes down. It’s happened to me and the messages I got were incredibly similar, I only wish the term was as common as it is now. Though I’m not sure it would have changed anything, because just like OP I had many people telling me she was lying to me but I didn’t listen
Another story of "man is his girlfriend's best lawyer". This is why fornication was outlawed.
Apologizing to her will forever solidify that you're a simp and she will never be attracted to you. Accuse a faithful woman of cheating and she will prove it wrong. Accuse a guilty woman of cheating and say you're leaving, she will break into tears and admit it.
You apologizing to 1 girl out of 4 billion.
Invest in hidden cameras and location tracker.
Captcha: D0N400
Done.
I will join the thousands of other anons and laugh at your retarded cuck face when you inevitably crawl your ass back to create a thread months down the line about coping with your ex cheating on you followed by a breakup that should have happened earlier, you poor bastard deserve everything that happens plus interest due to your inability to see the crystal clear writing on the walls.
Idiot
Duuude, you just fucking cucked yourself big time
Yep. This 4D chess game you think you're playing is just you delaying the decision you know you need to make, because it honestly seems like you're already convinced she's cheating
>She's saying "is there another text that you're talking about that I am unaware of?"
Possibly, but who on earth would word it like that? But it's mainly the preemptive reassuring "I love you <3" makes it seem manipulative, especially because OP had barely responded to her and she immediately knew what made him upset
I actually agree with you that people here are too eager to jump to the worst conclusions and that re-reading it makes it seem more possible that she's innocent, but I just can't get past that last message. It reads to me that she knows she fucked up
>But it's mainly the preemptive reassuring "I love you <3" makes it seem manipulative, especially because OP had barely responded to her
>especially because OP had barely responded to her
That's exactly what made her give the reassuring "I love you <3" He's not responding to her, and she wants him to respond to her so she can clear things up. She's trying whatever she can to get him to answer, and he's not. He should post how the rest of the night went, especially if he never responded to her. I bet she was freaking out
>and she immediately knew what made him upset
She didn't KNOW, that's why she was asking him which text he meant lol. But I think any one of us would have concluded it was probably that shower text that he was referring to.. but it'd sure be nice to know for sure, because who knows, maybe he somehow just got a text that she sent him 3 months ago or some shit, that happens sometimes, you know? Or maybe he's hallucinating again, I dunno, but it makes sense to want some damn clarification, doesn't it?
> but I just can't get past that last message. It reads to me that she knows she fucked up
The last one doesn't read that way to me at all. To me, she's explained the shower text, he still hasn't responded, now she's thinking "what the fuck is he talking about? What's going on?"
Why the fuck did he not just answer her? Then we'd know these answers. Instead he made himself and her both suffer (assuming she's being honest with him, otherwise she prolly just don't give a fuck)
Fair enough, you make good points.
Still, I think the fact that OP’s gut reaction to the initial “come shower” message was to be confused and suspicious says a lot. Considering they’ve been together for 2 years, they should be familiar enough with how the other communicates and if messaging like that was the norm there would be no need for explanation. But then there’s the whole he was high thing, so who knows.
If OP is prepared to snoop and be on guard, I think the relationship is fucked regardless of what actually happened. It seems he’s already convinced she’s cheating and just wants irrefutable proof. If it’s going to be stuck on your mind, it would probably be better to just tell her you’re still bothered and ask her if she was seeing someone else while you were away and gauge how she reacts. You know her best
>Still, I think the fact that OP’s gut reaction to the initial “come shower” message was to be confused and suspicious says a lot
Stoners can be a little paranoid sometimes, especially when they're fucking stoned, as OP admitted he was. And non-stoners are prolly even worse when they're stoned, shit
>Considering they’ve been together for 2 years, they should be familiar enough with how the other communicates and if messaging like that was the norm there would be no need for explanation
I didn't catch the 2 years part but still, he was stoned and I wonder how often he goes out of state like this? Could be the first time since they've been together? Dude mighta had it in his head before he even left like "hey, I'm gonna be gone and have no way of checking if this bitch is cheating on me.. this would be the perfect time for her to invite over that ex that I thought she was still talking to last year! This fucking bitch, she's been waiting for this opportunity this whole time, hasn't she?! Just to fucking hurt me!"
You know what I mean? Some people be a little crazy sometimes, especially when they're stoned and shit. Nigga's prolly sitting around with nothing to do except think and smoke too
>But then there’s the whole he was high thing, so who knows.
You could remove the weed from the situation and I'd still believe it. People be crazy sometimes
>If OP is prepared to snoop and be on guard, I think the relationship is fucked regardless of what actually happened
Nah nah nah nah, I wouldn't do no "be on guard" bullshit. He should have resolved this shit with her by now, unless it somehow requires him being there with her in person, like.. you know, if he demanded she recover any/all of her deleted texts or something lol. But hell, I think he could do that by just asking for her google account info right?
I'm pretty sure he could just talk to the bitch and she'll tell him what's up
Not a stoner, but I’ve never suffered from paranoia whenever I smoke so I never really understood the whole deal with that which is why I didn’t bother analyzing that angle
I also wasn’t encouraging OP to be on guard, what I meant was that if he’s lost the trust and is going to continue to be suspicious about it then it’s over because it’s just going to cause more problems. But OP said he already talked to her and he believes her, so everything seems good
cuck
> given zero reason
> ignores listed reasons
nagger,
She is cheating. You are a cuckold in denial.
long distance relationships and now blaming the drugs..
All seriousness, OP, unless you're getting some kino nookie nookie I'd just ghost that crap and go up to the library. Get lost in the reference section and pick a topic, then go delving into it on a week-based schedule and Ms. Right will sniff around in no time. Get a CD player too and just check out some old classic albums while you do your thing.
You should come home earlier and catch her in the act.
Look the point is I’m not throwing it away over a text that could be interpreted differently depending on your state of mind. Maybe I will visit her unexpectedly, maybe I will tap the cams in her place and watch. But for now I wait. Even if it hurts worse later it’s okay, I’m willing to bear that pain for the chance that she’s innocent, and to make sure if I make a move on her that I’m standing on solid ground.
I agree. But you should have your guard up. Hire a PI. Get her phone and look at her texts. Come home early. Show up at her place unannounced.
>Get her phone and look at her texts
This, and it’s justified in this case. Is this through snapchat? It should be easy to see if she’s snapping another dude
It’s hard to get advice for this sort of thing here because everyone will be quick to find any excuse to label a woman as a whore, but I truly do think it’s never been more obvious. Now that you’ve given her the knowledge she can get away with it, I imagine you’ll find out sooner rather than later.
>Now that you’ve given her the knowledge she can get away with it, I imagine you’ll find out sooner rather than later.
Yeah we’re supposed to move in together in a few months so I will absolutely sniff out any bullshit.
Look man I’m vulnerable here what am I supposed to say? I’m showing you all pictures of personal conversations, it’s just how we communicate via text.
Ty
>Yeah we’re supposed to move in together in a few months
Save yourself the trouble and just break up with her now. You don't ever move in with a woman you're not married to.
You got it backwards
It’s don’t ever marry a woman you’ve never actually lived with.
That's not how it works incel. Moving in with a woman means you simply don't give a shit about her or the relationship. It always ends in divorce.
>It’s don’t ever marry a woman you’ve never actually lived with.
This is not true at all. Research is inconclusive and mixed, but some studies have shown premarital cohabitation leads to higher divorce rates.
moving in with someone before marriage is like playing pretend marriage but you have one foot in the door and one foot out. You get to experience all the negatives and downsides of living with someone without the pact of marriage keeping you there
let's just say you are a dumbass with no life experience
More like you're in illiterate. Guess Incel is a multifaceted disease.
Why even bother making this comment without adding any substantial rebuttal
Marriage is a legal contract and a spiritual one.
You don’t need a legal contract to be spiritually married
>You don’t need a legal contract to be spiritually married
No, but it shows you're incapable of making the lifelong commitment.
>lifelong commitment.
Kek
Marriage is a lifelong commitment. That's the idea of the institution. The fact you think that idea is funny just shows you aren't serious about it in the first place.
Okay, go have kids out of wedlock and lmk how that turns out for you.
Anon is a retarded slave that likes signing government contracts to prove he’s “a real man”. Nice job, dumbass
This. If you were going to split then the sanctity of marriage wouldn't do much to keep you there anyway.
>You get to experience all the negatives and downsides of living with someone without the pact of marriage keeping you there
The marriage isn't supposed to keep you there. If you can't stand living with someone, you sure as heck shouldn't be marrying them.
I saw this thread last night so ill say what's been said.
It is SO over, the over-correction all but confirms it. You could ask her to send you a screen shot of all her recent conversations and her friends on snapchat, but I wouldn't even bother.
I guess you don't want to hear this based on your response, but she's cheating, emotionally, or otherwise. Don't be a fool. Snapchat is for hos anyway.
OP, i'm pretty sure 80 percent of replies are sociopaths who are trying to rile you up into doing something stupid so they can laugh. They have no concern for you; they just want to see you humiliate yourself
>Maybe I will tap the cams in her place and watch
This is a really good way to end the relationship, regardless of cheating status, because you will come across as an entitled psychopath.
I'm pretty positive she isn't cheating OP. I get being alarmed at first but it doesn't seem likely that she'd accidentally send the wrong text to you, especially if she was already talking to you.
she said "Bro" before she sent the "wya?" message; do you remember the timing between that and the "wya" message? Accidental texts are rare, and it'd be even more unlikely for her to be holding two conversations at the same time if she's also planning on cheating?? If she was cheating or even planning to, she would just say "i'm gonna be busy today!" and not pretending to give a shit about your fucking coffee donut conversation lmfao
Op here. On Snapchat it shows when people leave the conversation and she left after the last message and then the wya message showed up from her at the same time she came back into convo so idk. Also from the messages prior there was about 30-45 seconds. We were holding a steady conversation around that pace.
Also I’ve already decided what I will do. I will snooooop when the opportunity arises. I’m no pro, but I’m a master of opportunity.
I like her enough to give her benefit of the doubt
But not enough to not be extremely suspicious
Bro,you're fucking retarded. Either call her out or break up with her, you pussy
she literally has zero respect for you at this point, because she knows you have reason to break up, but aren't doing so.
be prepared to have her get mad at you when you find her taking another guy's dick.
she'll call you stupid, unmanly, unworthy.
and you are, you really are.
>because she knows you have reason to break up, but aren't doing so
Goddammit this, I did this with my last ex and she ended up holding out on everything because I essentially showed her that I was a bitch afraid to leave something that was clearly bad for the both of us. No surprise the sex dried up and she became a massive cunt. I had to end up cheating because I was in a desert and she refused to share any water.
>it doesn't seem likely that she'd accidentally send the wrong text to you, especially if she was already talking to you.
Youbare naive. I have personally done this, xent a compromising message to one girl that waseant for another. If you think it's unlikely a girl can be sexting one guy while texting another you don't know sluts
Ask a friend to sneakily check out if she has visitor or something, this is sketchy mate.
Bad sign, brother.
Really, really bad. Her damage control shit after was just...Whew, lad.
I think its plausible that ithe text was meant for you, sounds like how a horny ADHD hoe would text. but then I read the "did a text show up that I didnt send?" u ok? I love you <3 That part seems mad suspect and I dont blame u for thinking something sus is goin on
I second this. I am not on drugs (and I do a lot of drugs) but this is suspect bro dont let yourself be gaslit for fuck sakes man
OP You know the answer to your last question. You blamed it on paranoia from drugs?
Pathetic
If this isn't a thinly veiled cuck thread, I would say she's at least messaging another guy explicitly.
There's a chance she was messaging a girlfriend as a joke, but she got super defensive & was all over the place, going from immediate denial into feigned confusion back into denial. That plus the fact she was super casual in your conversation and went straight into lovebombing once you had questioned her...
I'm sorry man, I hope it's not true, and admittedly I'm a paranoid freak, but I wouldn't trust her again. And I've never had anything like that happen to me in a relationship before.
If you don't want to throw a 2 year relationship out over suspicion, I get that, but you already sound like you're willing to spy on her, what's the point in a relationship without trust?
This. Fuck all cunts who try and fucking pull this shit after being caught red handed.
>3 paragraphs of cope and "emoji analysis"
holy fuck you are pathetic she's evidently cheating
>what are the chances she's not cheating on me?
0%
none, dump her immediately.
>things are black and white!! based and true!!
this is literally a cognitive distortion lmfao
midwit detected
Well, this is it, the thread that finally PROVES how useless /adv/ is. Legitimate, documented problem, confused OP, contributors that can obviously see what's going on, and STILL people insist there's another explanation
Pretty sure if literally everyone htought the same thing it would be a stronger case for /adv/ being useless? if anything it's pretty worrying most of the replies here unanimously agree to just freak out and insult her?? even if she was cheating, how is that productive or useful in any way at all?
>implying cheating is a bad thing
There's nothing at all wrong with it. People who get mad about it are narcissists who are under the impression that they ever had an exclusive entitlement to their partner's love and sexual access so they suffer a narcissistic injury over it but can't really comprehend love in the first place.
This smooth brain what the fuck
Her and I have an agreement to be mutually exclusive to eachother in our relationship, body heart and soul.
Her cheating would be a violation of the most important virtue between us, and a violation of my trust.
Slavery is not a virtue. Also, if you so easily lose trust in your partner because they have sex or form an emotional bond with somebody: then you have already failed the test of life for there is no scarcity of love as it is infinite in its generosity.
We are both mostly Christian leaning so this would be the wrong move.
Free spirits is cool yk but it’s not really slavery if it’s a choice, and a choice that we both agreed to eachother to make.
This is exactly how you get AIDS. Disgusting degenerate.
rejecting parts of yourself and others prevents people from healing, which is where harmful behaviors come from in the first place. If you actually want to make the world a better place, you need to allow the opportunity to grow or change.
probably bait but cheating is a bad thing if it's bad for a given relationship, simple as. There's no universal black-and-white ruleset for every given behavior.
Bro…
Goddamn this thread is heartbreaking.
I am sincerely sorry OP, I feel your pain.
I love you OP, I hope you will be okay.
I don’t want to date anymore
I will be fine friend. Also bro, it’s equally tragic to live and die alone with friends that come and go and family that grows apart and dies.
Either way is pain, but if you don’t try you guarantee your failure.
That’s a good point, tbh, I need to keep a more positive headspace like you. I wish you the best in wherever this leads.
Hary, I appreciate the sentiment and the values behind your advice, but also it’s not the right solution in my case.
The good news for you is that you can know without a doubt that if I catch her with 100% irrefutable proof that I will call her a lying whore in front of the entire neighborhood.
We’re all trying our best
>I will call her a lying whore in front of the entire neighborhood.
Based
insulting someone and accusing them of something when you don't actually have proof is what's destructive.
calling out bad behavior and insulting someone are two entirely different things.
>it's objectively black and white
some relationships don't subscribe to fidelity. I'm sure you'd categorize them as "sinful" also but you'd have to convince people your framework is valid or worthwhile.
Obviously if the phrase being used is 'cheating' it means it's harmful; in other contexts like an 'open relationship' it might just be a sexual encounter that isn't discussed.
I get that it's satisfying to live with a rigid ruleset but it's pretty goddamn limiting if you want to function in communities that aren't filled with sociopaths
>proof
You mean watching as she fucks another man, right?
Hypothetical:
>”I think you cheated on me”
>”WHAT? BABE NO NEVER! <3”
Other hypothetical:
>”You are a lying whore”
>”I’VE BEEN FOUND OUT!”
OP is a masochist who hates himself and would make excuses for a nagger while they were stabbing him to death and giggling with glee
Shit makes me wanna cry. I never want a goddam relationship what the hell is this.
don't let idiots on LULZ let you make bad decisions
You should break up because you unironically used the term "boo". Cringe as shit. Actually, kill yourself instead.
Cheat on her for your satisfaction.
Show the conversation to as many of your mutual friends as possible.
That's how you fight private life- wars.
I'm sorry for your loss, but at least you found out she was a cheating whore.
It could have been worse, it might have never come up.
i never cheated on a boyfriend before but i will admit i got a chewbacca themed donut for a festival and showed it to a long distance bf at the time, but deep down it reminded me of another long distance ex. donuts are delicious.
This thread is a fucking Rollercoaster holy shit lmao
>I’m currently out of state
to any other anons: this is how you know your gf is cheating on you. no need for whatever text slip-ups
send updates of what you say to her. it may not be cheating 100%, but thats super suspicious.
how it do OP? updates?
Op here, It’s going well. We did a video call last night and talked for hours. I’m just waiting and planning, no need to make quick moves.
Patience and reserve. If this thread dies before anything significant happens I will make a new thread with the same Snapchat pics.
You're a fool op
Dude it's already too late. You had a window to figure shit out and now it's closed. You being fine with it and just going along is only gonna make her more devious and she WILL NOT slip up like that again. The bitch can tell you anything at this point and you'll believe it. Poor bastard.
I’m okay guys, you can quit calling me a fool for not acting on things I’m aware of. If she is cheating I will find 100% evidence and she will get her comeuppance.
I’m not a fool, and I’m not a cuck, just precise and thorough.
I get where you're coming from but women are far craftier than us OP. Getting evidence may never even happen since she now knows not to slip up. I just want you to be wise man. Your girl may not be cheating, but that text is suspect like a motherfucker.
>women are far craftier than us OP
Speak for yourself, women are basic and usually extremely predictable. Anyone with daughters knows this.
Is that why the majority of cheating women are able to gaslight for years? Motherfucker the army/war alone proves that women are more crafty. A woman will forsake her very country and have children with the enemy, can guys do the same? Do the majority of army husband's have bastard kids thinking it's theirs? How many women can trick guys into doing shit because they dangle pussy? How many guys got cheated or left because they were led on to believe you could tell her anything? Either you're retarded or haven't dealt with women whatsoever if you think for a second they aren't more crafty than guys when it comes to manipulation, gaslighting, false comfort, and love. Fuck outta here.
Idk I’ve never had those problems. I usually just end up breaking it off because most women suck to actually be around for extended periods of time.
women aren't any craftier than men
men are just to blinded by pussy and hope to see red flags or understand that she switched sides to save her own ass
For example
I go pick up my gf from work
>she’s going to rant about her day and useless chitchat shit
>I’m going to ask what she wants for dinner and she won’t be able to make up her mind
>She will try to hide texts by deleting them but doesn’t know that the carrier can recover every single text or call sent or received from her phone without her even knowing
>she may use Snapchat for her shenanigans and you can’t just demand Snapchat send you her text history, but she doesn’t know that I can watch her screen via backdoor apps.
>if she cheats her friends will all know about it and I can infiltrate their group at will
>she doesn’t know that I can see her location 24/7 if I choose to
There is no way on earth she outplays me friend. There is no amount of craftiness that will surpass my desire for truth and trust. I either want to be able to trust her wholeheartedly, or at least be able to trust myself in making the right decision in ending it. I don’t want to think back later and realize I ended a really good thing prematurely because I schizo’d out over a text message she sent while I was away.
>I have to play 4D chess to make sure my woman doesn't cheat. Haha I'm so smart.
You stalk her homosexual, that alone shows you're so insecure about what she could do that you need to actually track her. Last I checked someone is better at doing shady shit if you need to commit to stalking retardation to prove your point. Dumb homosexual spends most of his time doing this and thinks he's unlocked the secret to women lawl
I’m on /adv/ asking relationship advice, obviously I’m not a guru retard.
Still, all of the odds are in my favor. And the more patient I am the better my chances become of finding truth.
It’s all about information, prior to the wya shower text I was secure in my information, that text brought up a question mark, so naturally I need to investigate to confirm or deny the information.
>naturally I need to investigate to confirm or deny the information
I am predictable in this way, she will see this investigation coming short term. If she is cheating she will be more careful for awhile. However my patience will win in the end.
you have no trust in her anymore dude. look at your own post...
just dump her and move on.
I think theres been enough replies but this hits the hardest
OP you don't even trust her anymore, in fact I don't think you even wanna believe her. tbf rightfully so because its just too out of place and sus. I'm sorry man, hope you get in a better place.
Good on you, Mr. Precise and Thorough. You're not rushing to conclusions and seem to have a comprehensive game plan so just keep at it. Best of luck.
OP here. Unfortunately one her friends text me and told me she is cheating. Can't believe I trusted her. It sucks bros.
character arc inbound, now you become jacked
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OP here
Despite not knowing if she cheated or not I'm going to stay and keep a close eye on her. We talked on the phone and what she said really did make sense. Talked to her mom on fb and she told me how her daughter always says she loves me and shit. She's too good to give up on. Like I said she's going to me under my all-seeing eye but I think it'll just bring us closer together. Thanks for the advice and I'll keep what you guys said in mind. Especially about the sex.
This is the best move, trips confirm
Honestly I’ve turned to the other anon’s side, I thought it was obvious at first but the more I read it the more I think she’s being sincere. It’s been discussed to death but I really don’t think she would’ve added a laughing emoji if she was actually inviting someone else to come shower with her, and everything makes sense read from the perspective of her being innocent
I think we all just wanted a conclusion, but since there isn’t really a way to prove she didn’t cheat (at least to us) we won’t get one.
Wish you the best OP
OP here. A shower flew over my house. What do?!?!!? Is God cucking me?!! Please help
OP just cause I love you I sent your screenshots to a female friend of mine and she said it was really suspicious that she said "wya" despite knowing you're in a different state
Only you know how your GF talks on a day to day basis, but if that isn't normal then I would be wary of trusting her
I would also be wary of thrusting her.
Finally someone said it
The "wya" is your smoking gun
Cheating is wrong because it's a violation of another person's trust.
You posting screenshots, talking about surveiling her/reading through her phone, and generally approaching her like she's an opponent is also a violation of trust.
Honestly? Until you can vulnerably say you felt scared, talk about your feelings without over-protecting yourself, and apologize for trusting the opinion of sociopaths over the internet, I think she deserves better OP.
Ya gotta grow up here, and I say this with love. How do you think she'd rea t if she saw this thread?
>She never reads LULZ she'll never know I'll just keep it a secret!!
You mean like cheating on someone?
Acknowledge your fear and the desire to protect yourself taking control and making you act immature instead of communicating directly. Godspeed.
Nope, this is retarded. There's nothing wrong with going through someone's phone when you have a reasonable suspicion, as OP does here.
Trust, but verify.
>Doing a wrong thing is okay if I'm scared! Managing how I feel if I'm vewy scawed takes precedence over another person's autonomy and right to privacy!
Any justification you make to violate trust, even if you think it's to counter another person, is a line you can rarely cross without totally rupturing the relationship. It wasn't okay when your parents did it to you, and it isn't okay to do to somebody else.
This is without belaboring the point that this whole thread is fucked up.
>t. serial cheater
Every time someone finds out their spouse or s.o. was cheating, it's seeing their phone of them sending nudes and talking about having sex with them on their phones.
Like you think those people blatantly cheating with evidence on their phones are in the right and deserve the privacy to cheat? lol
>Every time
You mean like you see in movies? It isn't that simple in real life. And if it does happen, it usually is because there's repeated suspicious behaviour, not a single goddamn message in two years of otherwise normal behavior lmfao
Also, where there is snooping, it's usually accidental or because the cheater is being flagrantly sloppy. OP literally wants to Special Ops surveil his partner, spy on her through cameras, do elaborate plots. None of this is appropriate.
I'm starting to think this whole thread is just fake/bait; why the fuck would anyone just listen to and respect the opinion of multiple posters calling their girlfriend a lying whore, if it's someone they actually love??
OP here
After thinking about it I've decided to ask my gf if she wants to open up the relationship. Obviously I'm not serious but I want to see what she'll say. I'm scared bros I really don't want her to say yes. I'll never cuck tho.
>I'll never cuck tho.
You already did here
You're a loser. making shitty bait like this.
Real OP here with pic of chat from different angle for proof
Everything is good. The relationship is steady and good, we talked a lot and worked it out. I think my perception was warped from the weeds and mushrooms I ate. Most of that is normal for me but I ate weed gummies and alway react badly to edible weeds. I was in a hyper suspicious state of mind which made me see things differently.
Anyways she’s given me no reason to not trust her, and looking back at the conversation it seems less and less suspicious, just the memory of that paranoid moment is still with me if that makes sense.
Trash people will out themselves one way or another so I’m not going to fret in the meantime. Enjoy the good times and cross the bridges when you get there.
Love you homosexuals and peace be with you all
>Memory if that paranoid moment
That's trauma OP; I've reacted that way before too to things. Even if it's fake the scare and feeling alone in it and then having a bunch of fucked up anons egg you on to be abusive and insulting you probably didn't help either
Digits don't lie
True love wins
Cuck.
Just remember
You can't say we didn't warn you
I won’t bro.
It’s the risk/reward. I chose her because it’s low risk high reward. She’s a person of character, goes to church every Sunday, conservative etc but it’s always a risk like another anon said when you invest into another person. Always a risk
Either die alone or live through your heartbreaks.
I think the lesson is that the fear of being hurt is your own problem to own, not hers. I'm proud of you for working things out with her because it's mature, but you should do some introspection about what protective part of your psyche emerged to justify what you wanted to do? What wounded part of you does it protect?
You were also just on drugs LMAO so it might've just been a painful psychosis moment. Sucks either way OP and I'm sorry and hope you feel better.
>She’s a person of character, goes to church every Sunday, conservative
This doesn't really fit with the horny emoji and sexting over snapchat
But you do you. Sometimes you need to massively fuck up before you learn a lesson.
What’s between us is between us, just because she’s a Christian doesn’t mean she doesn’t like to be dirty sometimes. Also I feel bad because sceenshotting a private conversation and confiding with retards on the internet is probably a trust violation somewhere.
Man, the "tradwife" standards have really taken a hit, huh?
Peak clown world.
So you're not even allowed to be sexual with your SO? Fucking losers
You're insignificant and so is she. She's a random whore you are banging and you are a random hookup for her. You are the loser bro. They're the ones who are trying to help you before you end up paying child support, or even worse, end up marrying a whore like the one you're turning out now. Repent and move on.
I'm not OP
I mean you have found your 10/10 dream woman right? Surely you have. If not just keep looking you will find the woman who meets every single want and need of yours and is also willing to accept your shortcomings.
I see you're still in the "if I start drama its my fault" stage in relationships. Dont worry homosexual, one day you'll learn to question shit and actually stick to your guns. The funny part is you look like a bitch either way, even if she didnt cheat you now look like a beta homosexual whose apologizing for nothing at all. You could of easily said shit looks sus and keep to yourself, but you prodded her and then ran back the next day saying how sorry you were. That already says you're insecure in your feelings and would rather comfort than reality.
I’d be insecure in my feelings too if I was on as much drugs as it sounds like op took lmfao
Kek. It's always hilarious when this meme gets proven right again and again.
As one of the anons who initially thought it was obvious she was cheating I think you made the right move and have a healthy mindset. Glad you figured it out
>Real OP here with pic of chat from different angle for proof
Hmm how about you scroll down and show us the texts that come after, eh, OP? You got us all invested and shit, you can't just leave us hanging. I wanna know how the rest of that night went at least. Come on, at least a page or two after she said "I love you <3"
>holy autism batman
Oh fuck off, that doesn't even come off like bragging
What was your ACT score though? IQ too if you took that same test or at least tell us what test you're going off of
>Oh fuck off, that doesn't even come off like bragging
my nigga, you were using it as proof you had a higher level of intelligence
>What was your ACT score though? IQ too if you took that same test or at least tell us what test you're going off of
check it brainlet, 31 as well. Im not gay enough to pay for an IQ test
>my nigga, you were using it as proof you had a higher level of intelligence
A higher level than what? Higher than "low IQ" like he said? I mean.. yeah, that's what I was doing then, so? Makes sense to me lol
>check it brainlet, 31 as well. Im not gay enough to pay for an IQ test
I'm impressed. How did you get ahold of that? I thought I had to pay to request my old ass ACT score?
Also I did this one
https://test.mensa.no/
Not that I think it's super reliable or anything, just that seems to be the popular one lately, right?
Anyway, I wasn't bragging, I just figured if the dude is gonna say I'm low IQ, fuck it, I might as well ask him what his damn IQ is, and I know none of us are gay enough to pay for an IQ test, therefore I figure next best thing is ACT/SAT
>i'm high IQ
>so high
>so high that i need to try to prove it
>to anonymous people
>in an unrelated thread
smart
At this point when ur acting like such a smug cunt, you're obligated to come back and post how right we were when you find out later how dumb you were...
Wya horny emojis... you're so fucking dumb, and in denial, it's unbelievable.
Well you do you but once you make the inevitable follow up thread about how she cheated on you please don't pretend that we didn't warn you.
>how about you scroll down and show us the texts that come after
This.
I want a good laugh seeing the pathetic simping that must have taken place.
>literally tries to gaslight you by trying to say she never sent the text
>"I'm sure she's not cheating"
lmao
Its over and you completely deserve it for being a retard. I'm sorry this happened to you and I hope you grow stronger for it. In future dont have an ltr with a woman who has snapchat, that shit is for teenagers and kids. Also dont talk to her like shes your bestie. Its clear youre putting way more effort into that convo and shes just saying the bare minimum while shes offering the goods to some other dude. This shit is just sad.
Honestly this had been some good ass tea for the past couple of days. This retarded idiot OP had been keeping me entertained with this thread at work.
definitly cheating on you
What did you do to make her cheat OP?
Women only cheat when they feel like they have no other choice.