I intend to kill myself very soon (gunshot to head), what do you believe will happen to me when I do so (Will I go to hell, will I remerge with the God-head, ect)?
(this post is not intended to function as attention-bait, I am only interested in answers to the above question)
may goodness be with you
You will go to Hell. The horror cannot be communicated.
I committed suicide in order to protect my family from violent reprisal and have seen the afterlife. Do not commit suicide.
Thank you for your response. Would you be willing to say more on this? I would be interested in hearing any level of detail (that you feel comfortable sharing)
I punched the accelerator on my Subaru and drove blindly off a steep embankment in the middle of the night. The SUV was completely destroyed. I died.
There is an afterlife, determined by the life you have lead. The Tibetan Bardo/Egyptian Duat are real and the same thing. You will be assessed by superintelligences. The punishment endured by the guilty soul is beyond words. Time and space do not exist in the same way.
My advice to you is to pray sincerely. Do not worry about structure. Praying like a child would be best. Use your entire heart and remove all armor.
It is a waste of time, anon. It won’t fix your problems. Seek help.
do you mean to imply that the suffering that I have will be unaffected by death?
literally nobody knows.
i dont see how itd be different from a regular death.
but yeah dont do it OP
Skip suicide and live recklessly for others. Become a fireman. If you really want to die, you'll get your shot and along the way you can help a lot of people and maybe find a reason to live.
Do you believe that living in an uncommitted way could cause me to spread more suffering than if I simply rid the earth of myself?
No, I think you will reduce suffering to both yourself and others. The key being in how I suggested doing so. If you're prepared to check out, check out heroically. Not only is it not actually suicide (sidestepping religious/philosophical/metaphysical issues), but it can tangibly improve material conditions in the here and now.
You will just make things worse in ways you can’t comprehend right now.
You will most likely be reborn in a worse life. Suicide usually comes from the misguided notion that if you kill your psycho-physical self (which is not-self) that you can be free from suffering. The disposition of a person who wants to suicide leads that person to a worse rebirth if they still carry that baggage when they die.
judging by near death experience close to me, the shadow entities that prey on you and guide you to your death will imprison and torture you for eternity in complete disregard of your humanity. Use a Bellabee, Microdose shrooms, exercise, therapy, psychiatrist, Go to church. Lots of other things to do about pain besides making it worse.
First, I am obligated (and genuinely believe) to say that there is always reason to live and that if you have these inclinations then you should seek help, you will be thankful in the future.
About the question though, while the long term is clear the short term is not. Long term, you will reincarnate, i.e. welcome back to the place you just tried to escape from. What's more, the vibrations of oneself, qualities/disposition, actions (not like a life summary, but rather, the life's culmination state as a bad person can redeem and overwrite before death and vice versa) and such will be recycled and form a piece of your next incarnation's spirit. I.e, suicidal thoughts and attempts may effect (negatively) your next incarnation.
The short-term is unclear because one's self does not immediately dissolve back into the cycle and recycle. When you die, various energies holding together and interacting with the world around you dissolve over time before your spirit is fully released. Strong yang can keep a spirit conscious and functional, weak dissolves faster. Bonds can keep parts of the self connected to people or things, negative bonds such as regrets can feed and burn the soul tying it down to the world or person and prevent it from passing on, or entities surrounding or connected to you may effect you. There are many things in the end, but given your circumstances it isn't really beneficial possibilities you have before you.
You solve nothing by this anon, you need to confront your problems and move past these sorts of solutions as it won't go away.
From what i have studied and seen in astral realms, you will be scorned by the benevolent forces and will go through a torment loop that may feel like an endless hell. You may get another chance to live a short life to adjust for the time you should have spent. Or most likely, you will be absorbed by certain entities and cease to exist entirely.
In any case, that is a very bad choice to do.
Learn about the Dark Night of the Soul.
Self destruction is the only path to break the chain of incarnation. go for it, be free
how are u so sure about that
ur probably gonna be united wit the universe and become a part of never ending energy and be exactly what you were before your birth (the funny incident)
you will regret it and put only yourself back. may goodness be with YOU my friend, i hope you make a different decision.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32763348
^this guy tried to kill himself. He claims the universe did not allow him to die.
My girlfriend intended to kill herself when she was 16. Before she swallowed her suicide pills, her consciousness was pulled from her body, causing her to see herself in 3rd person perspective and reanalyze her decision.
This interference does not happen to everyone. My girlfriend was saved because she is connected to me, and I am connected to God.
Rather than kill yourself, I suggest you refocus your life to combat evil. Me personally, I am fueled by vengeance. That is what provides me life fuel.
If you do kill yourself, i believe that is a sin. You have a killed a human life; your own.
>My girlfriend was saved because she is connected to me, and I am connected to God.
Hey man, I guess you're the best guy here to ask for advice, I'm torn before two decisions, you see God came into my life 6 months ago through a very spiritual experience and told me what he wants me to do, that is to realize him and that I should not be afraid anymore, that for all the suffering I lived in my first part of my life I will rewarded in the second part of it. All fine and dandy, problem is Lucifer also came into my life and showed me his path, a path of power, merging this human consciousness with the God-head and achieving things that the human mind can't even phantom.
So I am torn between giving up all my power and letting God take care of me as he said he would, or go down the Draconian path and achieve powers beyond all imagination. Fuck me I cannot make a decision and I don't understand why I'm so important to them, since they both go through a great deal of effort to turn me to their path.
>Fuck me I cannot make a decision and I don't understand why I'm so important to them, since they both go through a great deal of effort to turn me to their path.
NTA
Forge your own path obviously, both could easily be entities tricking you. You need to reflect on what you need to do for yourself, and what you want; forget these other groups and their drama, they don't live your life and aren't as effected by your choices as you are personally.
>both could easily be entities tricking you
I have done all I could to verify their identities and both are who they say they are, not only that, they both did what I could only call as miracles in my life, so their power is very apparent.
>You need to reflect on what you need to do for yourself, and what you want
True, I will do that.
>they don't live your life and aren't as effected by your choices as you are personally.
Unfortunately it's way more complex than that, I've also had some Buddhist type of realizations about the nature of the whole universe, everything is interconnected and my choice will affect the nature of existence itself.
>they both did what I could only call as miracles in my life, so their power is very apparent.
Regardless, you must live your life, not the one they wish you to live. There's nothing more important than being yourself and manifesting what that is; why would you be anything else other than who you are (it would make your existence pointless otherwise if you don't be true to your nature and your aims)? Mind you though, it's important to get the bottom of genuine truth of who you are, not what you think you are.
>Unfortunately it's way more complex than that, I've also had some Buddhist type of realizations about the nature of the whole universe, everything is interconnected and my choice will affect the nature of existence itself.
No matter where you go, there you are. Keep yourself in mind with your decisions going forward and whether you will regret one course of action or another after the fact (and not just the two simple ones being presented to you now by these beings).
Good luck to you friend.
>Good luck to you friend.
Thanks anon.
my man, there is nothing in existance that Lucifer can offer you that is worth giving up Heaven.
If you follow God's will you're basically guaranteed Heaven.
Don't fall for Satan's temptation, it isn't worth it.
Not OP, but does the intentions behind your death mean anything or not? Indifference, rage, hopelessness, pride, a sense of honor there are many different forces that make a man kill himself. Also, what of deaths of despair? What are the metaphysical consequences of that?
All major spiritual traditions condemn suicide. I recommend you read the following book which you can easily find:
Feeding your demons by Tsultrim Allione
This is a very serious sin, because it is as if we have a bow and instead of shooting the arrows towards the target, we intentionally shoot them the other way or break the bow. Some call them sins against the spirit and consider them inexpiable.
nothing
why don't you try to do something amazing instead of killing yourself? think about it... you are metaphysically dead so you can do something the normal NPC can't, at least try it first
Do you want to know what lies after death? I have seen it, it's complete and utter darkness, an abyss so deep that it has no end and no beginning. You will go into this darkness the same way you have come out of it before, not knowing you ever existed, you can't remember the moment you we're born can you? This is what awaits you after death, if you want to merge with the God-head, you have to do it while you are living, that is the only way out of the cycle of reincarnation.
>>if you want to merge with the God-head, you have to do it while you are living
Could you elaborate? Do you have any recommendations on practices and books?
My uncle killed himself when I was a child, he was like a big role model for me but he didn't seem to notice that in his depression.
That was now over 20 years ago and I still don't know exactly what to feel, back then it was like this hero of mine just killed himself. And if life can get so bad that even this hero kills hinself, what chance do I have? Lots of dark thought all through my young adult years and childhood and mid twenties, that's why I think suicide is unethical.
First you should make sure it's not a small caliber, second you should aim slightly down and toward your spine if you stick the weapon in your mouth. Shotguns are most effective.
Other than that, you should decide for yourself if suicide is what you need to do given your situation and circumstances. You should also research NDEs as well as false light topics when it comes to NDEs (along with spiritual autonomy/self empowering topics) You don't want to be tricked into coming back here or some place worse if you do decide to kill yourself.
Unironically oblivion would be better than what awaits you if you continue on this path, the cicle of death and rebirth is a bitch
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Denied by OP 🙁
Bump. I love death discussion. Not in the sick sense but rather philosophiclly
Suicide is just another way to conclude a life. You aren't punished for it. The only pain in suicide is having to feel the grief of those who loved you, which you can get around by simply avoiding emotional entanglements.
You’ll go to heaven if you PayPal me all your extra money first lol
>verification not required