Men who say they are not doing self-improvement for women are lying to themselves

Let me ask you all of you bloomers, if you knew for a fact, that no matter how much self-improvement you did your dating prospects would not increase, would you still do it?
Be honest, don't try to rationalize based on some autistic stoic philosophy, speak from the gut.

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to grow my big black cock
    Girls demand it, white cock is not good enough

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      A broken clock is right twice a day, and that's one of those two times.
      No matter how much you improve, you are never going to be her biggest dick. One can cope all he wants that she will be turned on by his personality and charisma or love but its all BS, she is just putting out twice a month to get your resources.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        This is true.

        Once you move in together shes going to develop "muh depreshun" and "muh nxietee" and be a fucking burden whos incapable of making more than mr noodles.
        And youll come home every day to a messy kitchen and no food cooked.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like mom and dad (who are the only couple in the neighborhood who havent divorced anyway)
          Its either divorce rape or get home to some miserable soul-sucking negative vampire
          i have never once in my life seen a woman age 30+ (or any age?), that is cheerful, happy, funny, thoughtful, engaging. i am dead serious. cant think of one. they are all dead inside at this age

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I dont even want a relationship after her.
            I left her infront of the stove and came back to meat fused to the pan, water boiling over and the stove on fire and her just staring at it crying.

            Her mom coached her on how to cook over skype before we moved in together, but then once we moved in "muh anxiety". I had to waste so much money on food just because she doesnt cook or clean or do anything, i work long hours so having to spend 1.5 hours after work cooking and cleaning while she just sits there doing nothing...

            Every day is just running around,doing things and keeping busy. Eventually you reach self awareness and just get tired of having to look after people. I tried explaing to her i took a 1200/mo paycut by moving down and increased my expenses to support her.

            Never cohabitate
            Women are useless.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Women are useless.
              truest words ever spoken

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >women are useless, never cohabinate
              inclined to agree
              You know what I found shocking recently? Unpopular guys putting spy cameras at home to spy on their women while they are work. They were thinking they will find their women cheating on them but what they found was arguably more worrying and even horrifying/creepy.
              >hear this
              They all saw their women, the moment they became alone, go on the couch and just brainlessly stare at their phone for hours. Like, literally turning themselves off. Like, once when no one is around, their true nature is out, which is braindead, everconsuming black holes that can only suck in.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                All she ever did was watch people talk over watching TV on YouTube

                When i gave her an ultimatum of me leaving or her learning to cook, she spent 4-8 hours a day watching binging with babbish, and over two years cooked 15 times. Mostly the two dishes her mom coached her on, and then made ramen for me a few times, i grew up poor and fucking hate it.

                That amd kraft dinner and spam wete the only things she would cook. She "didnt know how" so she wouldnt learn or make an effort. Expected me to teach her but any time i tried she just worked against me or complained the whole time.

                And yes she sat around doing nothing all day. Same with her sister. Id give them tasks or ask they cook food and they just wouldn't.

                >supported her sister for 6mos while she sat around screaming playing videogames.

                Dont bother kings. In 2yrs she paid 800$ in rent, amd 150$ on groceries.

                She was so useless it hurts. When she left i was so indifferent and she flipped out and got angry when i told her i didnt care,

                Ive told multiple of our friends about how she doesnt cook and is lazy and iys just incomprehensible to them. They dony believe me and think im lieing. Its fucked.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Her mom coached her on how to cook over skype
              this fucking world

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You're not doing self-improvement for the upcoming race war? Huh...

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing I am going to do when any war starts (and the only based thing to do in fact) is run and hide. I am not going to die or kill because someone else told or for "my own people" who I don't know and give a fuck for.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Nah you're cringe bro.
        If you care about yourself then you would do self-improvement for yourself.
        It's in male nature to strive and be better than your competition in every sense possible, one of the side effects of that is that you get women, however what makes the best men go the extra mile is our competitive nature and wanting to the best for the sake of being the best.
        Also there is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your dating prospects, it's cringe, but no need to stop being on self-improvement if that is your only goal, once you start you'll see there is much more to it. I for one enjoy doing it for the sake of becoming better all other things are added bonuses.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Self improvement makes me happy, because I feel better with myself.

      Can't say I do it for women, cause I've never had any problems on that department.

      ^All of the above plus it's nice to know that I don't need a gun to kill most people even if it does make it pretty easy.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No he's doing it for the skanks because he's super pussy-whipped and probably an overweight porno addict too. Ever noticed how conceited overweight people tend to be? OP is a great example

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Wife tier women love strong men.
    Therefore if you want a wife tier women, make yourself into a strong man because you aren't born that way.
    Problem?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Wife tier women are all coincidentally post-wall. You know very well you are just an ATM to her.

      Self improvement makes me happy, because I feel better with myself.

      Can't say I do it for women, cause I've never had any problems on that department.

      Unless your self-improvement is activities unrelated to acquiring money/looks/status, then my questions is: why does acquiring money/looks/status make you feel better about yourself? Are you desperate for validation?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Why would you want to earn more money?
        >Why would you want to respect you more?
        >Why would you want to do less work?
        Laziness is pulling force of every self-improvement. Knowing more and having status means you need to do less

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I don't really care about looks or status, money however gives me freedom to do what i want, which makes me feel good.
        Looks and status may however improve my monetary position, but it's not something a care a whole lot about.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          So you work and study harder to be free? How does that work

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You'd rather be poor?
            How much freedom does that actually give you?
            You're not free to enjoy whatever kind of meal you want, go where ever you please, or buy whatever you need.

            homosexuals that talk about money like it's a prison, just don't understand how to use it.

            Money gives you more time to enjoy the good things in life.
            You might need to exchange some of your time for it, but if you're not a complete n-word, you can make it to your advantage in the long run.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >So you'd rather be poor?
              Yes? Do you know what freedom means?
              If I spend my 20s, 30s and 40s working 3 days a week as a security guard in some empty office building, playing video games, jerking off and fucking around on the web (which you are doing now in your free time), and you spend your best years slaving away all the time, who is more free? You with the billions in your 50s when your dick is shriveled or me with my van and dog in my 50s. Think about it, wagie

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You already complain like a 50 year old, so you're almost there.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So you're not on self-improvement?
                But how is your logic sound?
                I am 23, if I play my cards well I'll be a millionaire way before 30 and can if I want to (which I don't want to) retire and laze around all day and do nothing which is quite boring, or be a coonsumer such as yourself. It's not anyone's fault you lazed around in your teens and ended up not going to a good university in the west and getting a high paying remote job during covid.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You talk like we are alike.
                Your life sounds insanely depressing and I would never want that life.
                Like I said, I've been there, done that.
                It is in no way fulfilling, and you know it, otherwise you wouldn't have to come here and try to convince a bunch of random people that your way of life is the best, just to make you feel better about it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >and you know it
                OH I do bro. Because I don't have a woman and I am lonely, yes. My premise was that people do self-improvement for women and they are lying if they say otherwise

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Well I disagree, but I can agree that most people do, but then again, so what?
                If the net-outcome is positive, does the motivation matter?
                We are just animals, so it's difficult not to be just a little motivated by puss, as long as you recognize that it is just a natural urge, and shouldn't be your only motivation to improve.

                You think you're the only one who has eaten expensive goy slop? You don't even know what good food for you is.

                Absolutely not, and I know very well what good food is, I just like having enough resources to pay other people to make it for me.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's like you're saying "don't deludes yourself, self-improvements is only to eat healthier"

                To make it clear for you: they do it for themselves
                -> Improvements, includes improving AND results in improved love/sexual life (among all other things)

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Would you self improve if you knew dating prospects would not increase
                What would feel good about it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                it's part of the equation and can only be so

                in other words, maxing yourself WILL results in the intended benefits, in one way or another

                that be look, money, status, only one of them will make women available to you, don't deny it

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Oh, and all the tasty meals are the cheapest, i dont need $100 lobster or other healthy shit

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You say this, because you can't afford good food.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You think you're the only one who has eaten expensive goy slop? You don't even know what good food for you is.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Wife tier women are all coincidentally post-wall. You know very well you are just an ATM to her.
        The garden gnome has decieved you. Yes they have corrupted many many MANY women but they have merely seperated the wheat from the chaff.

        It is written into the stars and woven into our souls, some are simply not tainted by the garden gnome nor will they ever be.
        I can personally testify that there are many good women left.

        God be with you.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I’m too insecure and emotional to be a strong man. It’s probably why I hate myself so much. I’ll never be a real man.

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Self improvement makes me happy, because I feel better with myself.

    Can't say I do it for women, cause I've never had any problems on that department.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Indeed

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      that sounds just like when chicks say "I put make up only for myself and not for men"

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        What is it you want people to tell you homosexual?
        You are too weak to be on self-improvement and now want everyone to relate to your philosophy which states that self-improvement boils down to looksmaxxing?
        If say I want to become better at competitive programming or chess, how will that improve my dating prospects? It won't, but I still want to get better at those things. How will be wanting to write the best web novel improve them? It won't, but I still want to improve my writing. Just because you do something for some reason, doesn't mean somebody else does or feels the same about said things.
        No need to justify yourself to others, you do you bro. Be happy that your shitty government fell and enjoy life.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Just be honest about you it you intellectual n-word.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Of course one of the reasons I do self-improvement is to find the best possible mate for eugenics sake and have as many high quality off-spring as possible. It's in our genetics to want to do that, however what differentiates humans from other animals is that we go beyond those basic instincts. If that wasn't the case we'd still be hunter gatherers.
            Humans do other things because they have free will and the desire to conquer the universe around us. If it was just about women, no progress would have ever been made.
            Reducing yourself to an animal is a coomer approach.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Humans do other things because they have free will and the desire to conquer the universe around us
              That's not why. The reason is "incel copium". Notice there are no women inventors or contributors to advances in technology? It's because there are very few true femcels.

              You're a virgin.

              I'm in the streets talking to women irl, you talk to women from the shitter and only interact with gutter whores.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm in the streets talking to women irl, you talk to women from the shitter and only interact with gutter whores.
                Damn you're an actual virgin, aren't you?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You put your dick on a girl that got splooged on 3 times in 2 hours before you and you think you're cool. Go outside kid.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't deny it
                Kek.
                And I don't really use dating apps that much btw. You projected all that onto me.

                Look past the image and see the message behind it

                [...]
                My path is my path, I am commited to it. If I do not find which I seek then I will enter my grave with a smilke knowing I have seeked it.

                Fair enough.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >only interact with gutter whores
                ngl I love me some gutter whores and ratchet bitches

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's like it's verboten for a man to have some fun with silly bitches now. Everyone is so serious and drab.. Men are meme'ing themselves into penitent eunuchs. They will only entertain thoughts of a woman if they can see her as being their betrothed, lol. Which paradoxically saps them of the virility that might ACTUALLY attract those really nice women down the line. Those women don't want choir boys either.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Right? All of this tryharders studying and programming for 20 years to get some dried-up roast-beef will have their brain melted if they see how some moron pulls women in the bar and does threesomes

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                A lot of them are young and confused. We're getting fucked by propaganda on all sides. They're just trying to do this to reorient some kind of balance in their path forward. But I think they're taking it it a bit too far and will regret being so self-serious during their best lad years.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You are damn right... just spent 10 minutes arguing with a wagie only to find out he is 23 and wants to become a millionaire by 30...
                like clockwork...

                So you're not on self-improvement?
                But how is your logic sound?
                I am 23, if I play my cards well I'll be a millionaire way before 30 and can if I want to (which I don't want to) retire and laze around all day and do nothing which is quite boring, or be a coonsumer such as yourself. It's not anyone's fault you lazed around in your teens and ended up not going to a good university in the west and getting a high paying remote job during covid.

                23 years old? sure, thats the only possible case where its worth it - early retirement.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                But you're right in the sense that I had to work my ass of during HS and middle school.
                I did have some semblance of a social life, but not too much.
                At age 14 I move to Belgrade to go to HS there and lived alone so that was already quite hard and after that to Switzerland, it's only when covid hit that I came back home.
                Look bro, I wish you the best of luck, maybe try self-improvement for 6 months and then decide if it's not worth it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I cant even last a day, i have no reason to do it, truly
                thanks tho, good luck

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                These guys are dealing with so much more bullshit at 23 than I had to deal with. It's like another world. I feel bad for them. But I just know too many are going to meme this angle too hard and wake up one day at 33 and say
                >wow I am actually fucking boring as fuck now, shit...
                They have no daring, no cheek. No CHARISMA. That's what women really want. They want a charismatic lad with a sketchy past and a good heart. Thots and Trad women alike.

                I don't make the rules.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Humans do other things because they have free will
              >Reducing yourself to an animal is a coomer approach
              This is true
              If people want to talk about nature and instinct then it cannot be denied that the primary distinction of humans that separate us from the lower animals is the ethereal puppet strings that come down from above.
              This is why humans are more than the animals, and it is why men are so greatly superior to women, and it is why there are castes of humans ranging from near animals to the ascended Brahmin scholars and divinely inspired Pneumatics.
              There is nothing more powerful than the human spirit, and it is simply automatic for a man to improve.

              Let me ask you all of you bloomers, if you knew for a fact, that no matter how much self-improvement you did your dating prospects would not increase, would you still do it?
              Be honest, don't try to rationalize based on some autistic stoic philosophy, speak from the gut.

              >Be honest, don't try to rationalize based on some autistic stoic philosophy, speak from the gut.
              Men who frame philosophies around the opinions of women are natural inferiors.
              If I was going to live by myself in mountain isolation I would still do everything I do now, and I would still have the same interests. I would be in shape from chopping wood and walking. Self improvement is automatic.

              One of the main reasons that our society is collapsing is that inferior men self regulate their behavior based on what they think a braindead woman will think of it, rather than understand our society should be telling women what to do and vigilantly guarding against the constant decay that they cause with their stupidity.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Let's unpack, grandchild of someone who fought on the wrong side.
                >What self-improvement do you do now and would you still do it if you lived alone in the mountains?
                So you chop wood now? Walking? Walking is barely self-improvement, fag. I was talking career, gym, dieting, networking etc.
                >men self-regulate for women
                oh do i? because i think thats what YOU are doing. how is stinky neet doing something for women? its quite the opposite. whereas you trying to look good, smell good and have money is quite self-regulating yourself for women. y'all future cucks are like women who say "i am different then the girls" but then you all dress the same, workout and make cash.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                What the fuck are you even talking about, your whole post is garbage. So is your OP.

                You have proven my point conclusively.
                >One of the main reasons that our society is collapsing is that inferior men self regulate their behavior based on what they think a braindead woman will think of it, rather than understand our society should be telling women what to do and vigilantly guarding against the constant decay that they cause with their stupidity.
                Your panicked reaction to this absolute truth is all I need to know. The responsibility implied by what I'm saying is too much for you. You think like a woman.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                how is me self-regulating my action for women making me do things that women dont like
                or in other words
                how is you doing everything women will like not self-regulating for women

                here i simplified it for your dumb pleb ass

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                how is me self-regulating my action for women making me do things that women dont like
                or in other words
                how is you doing everything women will like not self-regulating for women

                here i simplified it for your dumb pleb ass

                Your posts are barely coherent.

                So you are saying you are a NEET and you don't care about women? I thought you were accusing me of being a stinky NEET.
                If you don't care about the opinions of women then why are you making a thread about how everything a man does to improve is because of women?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >i thought you were accusing me of being a stinky neet
                and you thought that because?
                you are a retard with no reading comprehension in his own language.
                >if you dont care about women then why make this thread
                because i hate it when guys lie to themselves and act all noble and stoic saying that their struggles are for "themselves" when we all know its BS, its to get a girl to look at them, and i want them to admit it

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You are wrong. Self improvement is one of the 4 responses to the fear of dying. Along with religion, hedonism, and suicide. It has little to do with poon, that is just a side effect.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >What is it you want people to tell you homosexual?
          The truth, for fucks sake.
          >If say I want to become better at X how will it improve dating prospects
          By making you a more interesting person and by climbing the male hierarchy.
          >Just because you do something for some reason, doesn't mean somebody else does or feels the same about said things.
          And I challenged such people to explain those reasons, yet they never do.
          >Be happy that your shitty government fell and enjoy life.
          That was our first non-corrupt government and thats exactly why the mafia took it down.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            All women care about is money and looks.
            Name one women that cares about wuxia novels, chess and intellectual subjects, that isn't ugly and needs a niche to attract males from said niche?

            >That was our first non-corrupt government and thats exactly why the mafia took it down.
            They were cucked NATO pedos.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              okay but then you are doing self-improvement so why are you answering my question? your fringe nerd hobbies are in the video-games category

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >All women care about is money and looks.
              All women care about is emotion. Money and looks are objectively easy ways to instigate emotion, but if you can't make them feel anything at the end of the day it's worthless to them.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              okay but then you are NOT doing self-improvement so why are you answering my question? your fringe nerd hobbies are in the video-games category

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How?
                I don't play games.
                Competitive programming is useful and fun.
                By being red on CF you can easily get a job at a FAANG company.
                Web Novels pay well, just from patreon you can make a few thousand a month + the earnings from amazon kindle self publishing.
                I lift x3 a week and go swimming twice.
                My income is over 200k (post tax) in a country where the average person makes less than 10k a year.. I'd say that I am doing pretty good for myself.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How much do you bench and what's your lay count?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                120kg bench.
                160kg deadlift.
                I am 188cm and 81kg.
                Zero and that won't change until I'm married.

                >How
                I just baited you to admit that it's all about money, which you just did.

                So?
                Not like I'll stop.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I am 188cm and 81kg.
                >Zero and that won't change
                Yikes. Low T coper.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So you contradicted yourself when you said you are not doing it for money/looks/status

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I did not say that I'm not doing it for that, I said that it's a side-effect.
                I was writing novels and doing programming as a kid when it made me no money, I did it for fun and for wanting to be better, once you reach a certain level it also brings in money.
                So I guess the conclusion is that I am doing it for those things, but also because I think it's fun and enjoy doing them for the sake of being better.

                Let me guess you also support hohols?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                They make you feel better because you know very well that they are increasing your mating prospects
                >hohols something
                I dont even know who they are. I support no one but myself. I dont give a fuck about countries, cultures and other fake concepts. I am me and I will go in the mountains if war happens, dont give a fuck if my country becomes nigeria, china,russia,america or whatever, I am a citizen of the Earth. You will not understand this.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >How
                I just baited you to admit that it's all about money, which you just did.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >My income is over 200k (post tax)
                Actually impressive if true.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Self improvement isn't just lifting you fucking retard. Its about making your life better. Could that include getting women? Of course it does but there are more aspects to it than that. I enjoy educating myself. I want to earn more money. You can wallow in your own pathetic self pity for all i care.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          sure dude as long as you admit, just like you did now, that you are doing it all for mommy, oops no i mean for women

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >make more money.

          Protip: cash or dont even bother.

          My roommates make like 900-1200 after taxes and that doesnt keep up with inflation or get very far.. No idea how wagies do it without overleveraging thenselves on credit.

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes I would

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    They're doing it to increase the chances of getting laid, obviously, but they're no longer doing it for a "girlfriend" or "wife" etc if she isn't worth that title. Just smash n dash. Holding out for true wife material or nothing.

    They might larp volcel for a good few years, but they're going to want to fuck eventually in the mean time as they're trying to find that elusive Good Woman. They just won't wife up any used woman.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I agree that it's obvious but you'll surprised how cognitively dissonant these future-cucks are.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >these future-cucks are
        I don't think they're future cucks. In fact they're making the right moves now. Provided that they don't drink the puritan koolaid too hard and they focus on self-improvement while also getting some experience in the bedroom with a couple easy lays along the way as they level up. Then they wife up a woman with very low body count (they can insist on wanting zero count or nothing but outside of religious communities that shit is just not happening fellas).

        >focus on self-improvement
        >start hooking up with 6's
        >get experience in bed
        >self improvement continues
        >regular 7's, couple 8's
        >more experience in bed
        >top of your game
        >wife a non-psychotic 9 from a good family

        It's a good play. Why the seethe?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You're one of those faggits who installed a dating app and thinks he has game

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You're a virgin.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >why the seethe
          I hate lies.
          Because they claim its not for women whereas it is, as you have proven

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I married at 19, any self improvement i do is purely for vanity or because i get afraid of the future.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Larp volcel
      Me rn.
      Of course I also can't stomach the idea of doing literally anything involved with laying myself out for the judgement of woman. It sets them in a superior position that they don't deserve for their cheap ass comdoitized pussy.
      I've got kids that take care of my need to fend for something female that can't do it for themselves

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still trying to better myself even though I'm married with grandkids
    and my wife sure as hell aint improvin

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I was referring to the younger generations that hit the gym, go into education/coding and is trying to change their personality to be more dominant/charismatic
      Boomers that do gardening and diet dont count

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the type of improvement. Eating healthy and avoiding drugs/alcohol makes you feel better, having a clean big home in a nice area does too. I know guys that live like cavemen and have gfs.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not doing it for women.
    I do it for my future wive.
    I do it for my future son.
    I do it for myself.
    I do it for my God.
    And I do it because it is in my nature.
    I know no other way, nor do I intend to.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The picture you posted is cringe, because the women in the picture is dressed like a harlot.
      Idealizing the 50s is stupid, it is that age that gave birth to today's degeneracy.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Look past the image and see the message behind it

        >I'm not doing it for women.
        The sort of men in that pic rel were also doing it for women. It's okay to be a red-blooded male. You don't need to be afraid of your libido. That is a meme. You're getting autismo'd out of your natural virility.

        My path is my path, I am commited to it. If I do not find which I seek then I will enter my grave with a smilke knowing I have seeked it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not doing it for women.
      The sort of men in that pic rel were also doing it for women. It's okay to be a red-blooded male. You don't need to be afraid of your libido. That is a meme. You're getting autismo'd out of your natural virility.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Wife tier women are all coincidentally post-wall. You know very well you are just an ATM to her.
      The garden gnome has decieved you. Yes they have corrupted many many MANY women but they have merely seperated the wheat from the chaff.

      It is written into the stars and woven into our souls, some are simply not tainted by the garden gnome nor will they ever be.
      I can personally testify that there are many good women left.

      God be with you.

      Look past the image and see the message behind it

      [...]
      My path is my path, I am commited to it. If I do not find which I seek then I will enter my grave with a smilke knowing I have seeked it.

      JANNIED FUCK OFF. THE SIGNAL IS FUCKY AND BOUNCING BETWEEN MULTUPLE WIFIS. I AM NOT A garden gnome WITH A VPN.

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I would be happy to see women systematically culled and for there to just be no women shitting things up, and I will continue to improve myself afterwards

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I got a gf when I didn't work out now I just prepare my body for the collapse.

    Anyone who thinks guts only self improve for women are either teenagers or virgins

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I’m doing a lot more hiking to prepare for the collapse, gonna be on your feet a lot

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        If you're hiking a good amount I'd recommend hip, knee and ankle flexibility training to dramatically decrease your chance of injury if you slip

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >hip, knee and ankle flexibility training
          Chuddy

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    tbh it's a pointless discussion, everything we do in live is to spread our genes, we exist for sole reason of multiplying, that's the evolutionary imperative. Deep down, you do everything for procreation and so do women. Yes, even taking a shit, you did it for women.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I know, I just want to see them do mental gymnastics

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Everything we do is about death not sex. Stupid animals think they’re immortal and only care for sex. We are crazy self aware animals freaking out all the time.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    you don't do self improooving here, you become a victim of men that do.
    So no, not for women.
    Ever heard of Russian karate school mafia wars in the 90s? Basically that here but for 50 years

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Russian karate school mafia wars
      what?

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Go wash youself with soap, maybe you'll look less like a gipsy.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    n-word, don't try to argue about lookism with LULZn-words. It's a battle that's unwinnable.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. I like the attention. Been focusing on the squats recently, my ass is huge. They DM me flirting about it but I one they won’t go serious. Still worth it though.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes. I like the attention. Been focusing on the squats recently, my ass is huge.
      Not sure if chud or thot

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      a Noble deed with sinful intention at the end of the day is still a noble deed.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      And i fucking respect the shit out of you for at least being honest bro. godspeed to you

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Self improvement is masturbation... self destruction on the other hand...

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Implying there is a difference
      The statue is created via destruction and reduction of marble

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely, I can sufficiently say not once in my entire life have I been motivated to change because of sex. Knowledge and Wisdom is my greatest desire, this is all I wish for. Paradise is gone, it does not exist. Someday far after we are dead it shall, but for now, we trek ever further into the night.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Chud cringe

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I could be a billionaire with a ten foot cock and an IQ of 9001, but that wouldn't change the fact that there aren't any desirable women in my area.

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I do self improvement so I can become better at killing with my bare hands. If a side effect of the increase of killing ability is getting laid more, I cannot complain.

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Let me ask you all of you bloomers, if you knew for a fact, that no matter how much self-improvement you did your dating prospects would not increase, would you still do it?
    Yes there is a reason to. To defend myself in self defense. Gun training. Endurance training. Close quarters combat. It is all necessary to survive n-words, and soon enough, WW3 too.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This. If not for the looming threat of planet of the apes I would probably stop giving a shit and dial it back.

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I am going to a gym with a physio trainer per 4 people doing custom workouts and pay money to a few different health services/professionals for stuff that’s more around optimization than solving a problem.

    I know if I don’t work out and such, my mind and body suffers.
    I know if I get stale at work, I will be bored and quit/fail.
    I know that if I focus on what I am good at and enjoy doing - I can keep getting better at it.

    I work in a very niche field where I need to be absolutely ON FIRE for a few hours at a time but not more than 1-3 times a week unless I’m traveling to punch out a bunch of times in different cities. There’s a team of at least 4-6 people who rely on me for more than 50% of their income.

    I have a wife, children and have enjoyed many lovers in the past but have absolutely no motivation to seek out any new ones in the future.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I am going to a gym with a physio trainer per 4 people doing custom workouts and pay money to a few different health services/professionals for stuff
      Pajeet shit

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not doing it for women. I am doing it for God.

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >you all have my flaws
    gnomish woman reasoning

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    He's projecting so hard.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Men who say they are not doing self-improvement for women are lying to themselves
    If I did that conscientiously I'd probably off myself.

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Women are instantly repulsed by men who need women. They are unironically looking for a man who could drop their ass in a second because it's a 'truthful signal' to their value COMPARED TO THE VALUE of the man.
    Women sleep with men they think are one step above their place in the hierarchy. Period.
    fucking nightmare world.

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I do everything for and through Jesus.

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >OP projects that the only point of self improvement is to fuck
    Spoken like a true incel homosexual
    Also its cute that you're also projecting that as the only reason for self improvement and that self improvement is bad.
    OP is a future tranny trying to drag people trying to make something of themselves down with him because he is a piece of trash
    I autistically replied because these types of people are trash akin to garden gnomes.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >still cant provide other reasons for wageslaving other than to become a cuck but ill type out some ad-hominems
      kek

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Because those ad hominems are correct and this isn't an argument you ugly homosexual, its a shaming because you should be ashamed.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          oh so you have submitted arguing and have succumbed to shit-flinging, gotcha

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I like jerking off in the mirror

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    To me self-improvement is a matter of survival.
    I do it for myself.
    It's not hard to impregnate someone and pass on your genes.
    But it is hard to live in peace with yourself.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >its not hard
      suuuure, we dont see everyone complaining all the time about hypergamy
      >i just make money and workout for myself bro, to be at peace
      yes, and you are at peace because you know you are not going to rot in loneliness forever or be stuck with some disgusting hamplanet

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Go impregnate some third world hoe then? Everybody has their lesser and superior.
        At least the odds of actually being part of that bottom 20% club is fairly slim if you're a Westerner.
        >muh white privilege

        Ultimately your logic implies that men do everything for women. Gaining power and influence also is a kind of self-improvement, which does improve your dating odds dramatically.
        >even if it did not increase your dating odds
        is flawed logic.
        >become the President
        >except without increasing your dating odds heehee
        >you would totally lose interest
        nani?
        Maybe it is your definition of "self-improvement" that is lacking?
        >he got fit to attract women
        Even that applies only in maybe half the cases. The other half do what they want because they want it. Maybe they do other stuff to increase their dating odds? Pruning their eyebrows? Would they still do it if it didn't increase their outward appeal?
        >would people still bath if women did not exist
        Tough questions.

        One thing I can say for certain:
        with the wrong woman your existence will not be peaceful.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          the other half that does it "because they want it" are just unaware monkeys, that still do it for women

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I do it for my community, which includes any potential future wife or children. Someone needs to maintain standards or everything turns to shit.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I would much rather see my community dissolve than to continue sustaining the ungrateful women's paradise
      You cause is noble but I just don't have that cuck DNA to run it

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        Too many freeloaders and parasites. Guys like me who like working 70-80 hours a day are now working the bare minimum or not at all. Might go get a wagie job and leave my white hat skilled trade because theres no point in working to get ahead once i get garnished.

        In a recession they were only hiring hourly subcontractors, i didnt get paid for two jobs, had my invoice book stolen, and got evicted while out of town working and lost everything and my box of recipts.

        Im completely fucked given the 30% interest they charge to the point if i get a job, and dont get paid on time it could cost me months wages in interest.

        Why participate?, society doesnt reward hard work or honesty, and when normies see you have skills or competency they either put a boot on your neck or gear down and expect you to do everything and just watch life pass them by.

        Why run 2-3 guys and be stressed out cause they move at 2/3rds the speed you do, and people who need step by step instructions get angry when you give them step by step instructions.

        No point in participating. The Chad with the Van and the dog is miles ahead than the wagie whos stressed and doesnt have time for personal development or hobbies cause he has to wage slave.

        Also 28$ am hour CAD doesnt get you shit. Gotta be friends with the boomer boss and get a nepotism job where you dont work

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    kek i sit in my house unshaven and unwashed and scream at p[eople in public. I'm broke and call women roasty whores to their face. I'm not trying bud.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Same but replace scream at people in public with stink and fart in public plus pee in bottles while in my bed, occassionally peeing on myself. my room stinks of balls sweat, ass and piss
      >will never clean up

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >my room stinks of balls sweat, ass and piss
        That's a little extreme don't you think?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          what i think is more insane is clean it up
          who gives a shit what my room stinks if no one ever comes in.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >if no one ever comes in
            Do you enjoy being lonely?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              nope. but i enjoy less engaging with normalhomosexuals. tiptoeing around their ignorance, the eternal status-signalling contest... dont get me wrong, ive learned to stand up for myself, i just dont find normalhomosexuals interesting . i find you guys interesting but i never meet your kind irl

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >i find you guys interesting but i never meet your kind irl
                I used to have a whole friends group of based bros. Didn't realize how good I had it till it was gone.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                nornies are the worst. If you ever want to piss them off treat them the same way they treat you, or hold them to their own standards.

                Normies dont actually have sentience
                They just repeat what jordan peterson says and try passing it off as their own idea.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >If you ever want to piss them off treat them the same way they treat you
                Did exactly that and lost all my friends. People started talking shit behind me and spreading false rumors even.
                Social dynamics explain it's because I have tried to climb my already established low status in the hierarchy and it's natural for (pay attention) HUMANS to be defensive and feel offended.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No we both have autism. I get it.

                Ive been trying to climb the ladder too. And i opened up to a fren and asked for advice and he was just so out of touch and a boomer about it. Couldnt justify anything. Just said work hard and stop complaining, and that i have to pay taxes while he runs a cash buisness.

                Its funny how peoples perception of you changes. Im quiet and reserved but people think its okay to walk over me or pick on me, then when i lash out its suddenly bad.

                Even as a kid, id get bullied, and when i stuck up for myself id get punished and be at fault. With work, once boomers see you want to get ahead they put that boot riiiiiiight on the neck.

                Lost out on 50g over the last years from not getting paid and ISF fees, not counting the cost of having to replace all my worldly possessions twice.

                Fuck the grind. Collapse and watch it burn.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                im curious, how did boomers stop you at work?
                >once i lash out they dont like it
                yeah, double standards. they can joke and fuck around with you all they want but once you literally just do the same they get NPC mad face

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >doesnt pay me on time.
                >"dont you have savings?"

                >doesnt pay me on friday cause:
                >"i need you here on monday!"
                >100$ in ISF fees each time.

                >has me do things the hard way/time consuming way just to teach me a lesson.

                >has me build scaffolding out of scrap blocks and tear it down.
                >whines if i use too many nails.
                >wont let me use a ladder cause "i gotta get used to not having one"

                Dont ever work for boomers. Also sometimes in life your owed too much to walk away or cant, and once they smell that its blood in the water for boomers. They will put their boot on your neck and tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

                Dont work for boomers. Ever.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                oh you are not, nvm

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                fuck im so angry now that i think of it. all i would do is just not agree on a topic and they would start talking with a threatening voice to leave them alone and get angry, fucking homosexuals i hope i get to have a pay back

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                but dont forget they were so aggressive with us because they are like vultures who smell weakness from far away, otherwise i have often seen those same pricks get beta around bigger fishes. they were bottomfeeders. and btw i wasnt a beta with strangers, only with my friends because i didnt want to lose them

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                im not a beta. I just dont see the point in fighting for position in the pack over every little fucking detail or thing. Very stoic.

                Then you have idiots that watch a few motivational speeches on YouTube and feel the need to punch down to feel good, or lash out at their friends for muh brain chemicals

                im curious, how did boomers stop you at work?
                >once i lash out they dont like it
                yeah, double standards. they can joke and fuck around with you all they want but once you literally just do the same they get NPC mad face

                I had a chick swing a hammer at my face deliberately after i announced what i was doing infront of everyone and it was covered up/told ot doesn't matter.

                But i get yelled at for listing out all the safety issues/problems with people to the zoomer (who ran to the boss and got me in trouble no cap fr)

                With boomers they have this mentality that whatever they do was harder than what your doing so they actively put roadblocks in your way or give you heights to climb. Its fucked and i dont know how to explain how boomers minds work. But they are just useless people who found their way into positions of authority.
                I want to live in a meritocracy. Where people are rewarded, not punished for rising above.

                Also befriending your boss > working hard.
                Dont believe the boomer lie.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >im not a beta. I just dont see the point in fighting for position in the pack over every little fucking detail or thing. Very stoic.
                Thats describes me perfectly. If it came down to it I wouldn't back off, maybe only from one or two of all the bullies I had, but from the majority of them I was genuinely not scared at all, just like you said - i found it pointless to argue with retards
                >befriending your boss>working hard
                story old as time. knowing that the world is so upside-down, i dont understand how one can be so motivated to participate in it, hence why i am a hermit. i used to be a normie, popular even, and became a hermit on purpose

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah its sad because o tell them im against violence because i know what its like to hurt people and they automatically assume "this person isnt going to fight back if i bully them"

                Normies dont understand what living in the hood is like when your white. I know what its like to smash people with a hammer or make them beg you to stop. Normies wont ever understand that cause the second shit gets hard they freeze up, atart crying or dial 911 or get an adult.

                People are weak, and until we get rid of the weak, the strong will suffer and be made to pay for the shortcommings of the weak simpky because we rise above, and improve as men.

                But in clown world, why bother?,

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, doesn't it bother you though?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              unironically it doesnt, serious

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm hyper sensitive to smells so it would drive me nuts personally.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        you're going to get infections and regret this, for your own sake you should keep yourself and your space free of such filth, you dont need to be tidy or anything just take better care of yourself jesus

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >youll get infections
          thats not true as far as my medical knowledge goes
          feel free to paste scientific evidence for this
          most cleaning is a marketing trick, just like brushing your teeth
          I have brushed my teeth less than 100 times in my 28 years of life and everytime i go to a dentist they tell me im in the 99% percentile of good teeth and compliment me on them

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >feel free to paste scientific evidence
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4372914/

            >I have brushed my teeth less than 100 times in my 28 years of life and everytime i go to a dentist they tell me im in the 99% percentile of good teeth and compliment me on them
            how? do you never drink coffee or pop? never eat sugary foods?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4372914/
              holy fucking shit, will clean up immediately and take a good shower, say no more. not kidding
              >how are your teeth good fag
              i dont drink coffee, but i drink pop and eat mostly junk food, including candy, since i can remember myself.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >i drink pop and eat mostly junk food, including candy
                then how the fuck do you not brush and still have good teeth? what is the secret?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >what is your secret
                I dont put tooth paste on them. One time I tried some self-improvement crap. The idea was to "start small, baby steps". So i decided to start with something benign - brush my teeth. I managed to last 4 days. on the fifth day i got bleeding gums and pain

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >i dont put toothpaste on them
                i mean i dont brush them altogether too. I might drink water and water them down by swallowing the watery-crumby shit
                how many n-words in africa or the amazon have you seen with bad teeth? now compare that to the civilized goyim

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >what is your secret
                I dont put tooth paste on them. One time I tried some self-improvement crap. The idea was to "start small, baby steps". So i decided to start with something benign - brush my teeth. I managed to last 4 days. on the fifth day i got bleeding gums and pain

                >I dont put tooth paste on them
                >i dont brush them altogether
                This is insane. How can they can be clean? could it really be like

                Some people have good saliva that actually repairs cavities, other people have saliva that promotes cavities. Just born with it

                says and your saliva is some kind of genetic blessing?

                if I don't brush then my teeth get bad. I drink my coffee, eat my goddamn burgers and chocolate milkshakes, hell I smoke so my teeth are bad even with my brushing.

                >how many n-words in africa or the amazon have you seen with bad teeth?
                I always assumed they brushed with animal hair brushes or something like that

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                oh i also smoke too and drink beers too, forgot to add
                >your saliva is a blessing
                maybe i can start a business selling it
                >my teeth go bad if i dont brush
                wtf, its the opposite for me

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Some people have good saliva that actually repairs cavities, other people have saliva that promotes cavities. Just born with it

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm lying to myself? I've been self improving for 10 years, daily. Learning languages, exercising, etc. The women just come now it's a secondary benefit, when I get women I have so much more energy I can continue my self improvement at an even greater pace, and do. My last girl i was in the best shape of my life and she wasn't even into exercising at all.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >secondary benefit
      to what? slavery? get real fag

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm married, and running and fucking are my only stress outlets since I've quit nicotine and drinking. So yes, I don't do it for my wife. I do it cause I don't want to die of a heart attack at 49 and be massively obese.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      if you eat animal products you are still going to die from a heart attack in your 50s.
      >Step 1: Go to pubmed
      >Step 2: Search for saturated fat and heart disease
      >Step 3: Go whole foods plant based
      I know you will screech and disagree but i want to spread the light of health

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Other advantages:
    >epigenetics
    >be an idol for your offspring
    >hard times
    >growth gives you satisfaction
    >beating other men in competition

    Stop beeing a fat NEET and don't come to Switzerland, you stinky gypsy bulgar burglar 😀

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Gypsy
      *cries in 20% near Eastern*

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The Swiss are a bunch of mountain garden gnomes anyway. Fuck you scheming cunts I know how shit you are.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever been there? It's excellent. At their hockey game, they have these drummers, we need to start doing it here.

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I would. I want power for no reason. Who the fuck asks questions like these? Aren't guns getting banned?
    >muh great equalizer
    >muh shall
    You will all be vaporized by the studded garden gnomeelry I wear to smog on you fools.
    -dear God I pray for strength in this LULZ post, give me all the answers I seek-
    BLANBLAJGJABLBBLALBJRHRURH8FURHEHEJSMS,RMDNBCHCDJO,ZMZJHZEJDM KNCKMC,,BLR KRUBHGK LRUBHBLUEHBKBUDHBBLGUFURHR.

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you're not doing it for yourself,it won't last.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >wooof, let me go run for 1 hour, then eat tasteless crap, then read boring shit, then work for 8 hours everyday while wearing uncomfortable but fashionable clothes
      >im doing it for myself broo!!
      if it felt so good people wouldnt need motivation for it and everyone would be doing. what actually feels good and people do truly for themselves is what makes you ugly, fat, poor and low - status, society rejects, thus you feel lonely and then you go and do all the feel-bad shut and struggle
      u know it

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I jog,I workout,I eat good.kids are adults currently serving. i'm in good shape,been told i'm well above average in looks,get hit on fairly frequently,I just say thanks and throw their number away,i'm not interested. been there done that and honostly not worth it .I will never remarry not even interested,I enjoy life. YOU on the other hand have a lot to learn and can only blame yourself for your failures.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >throw their number away, i'm not interested
          >you suck
          fair enough, my life does suck. but i truly dont think yours is any better. sure, you dont have the pain of regret and "what could have been" but i also have freedoms that you dont have

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            keep blaming your failures on someone else and see where that gets ya. yea you have freedoms that i don't have..sure buddy,I live in florida where life is good year round.Excuses are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              bro, your wife is 40+ years old, not good for sex, you are absolutely sick of fucking her for 20 years. i unironically DONT WANT to be you, believe me. i dont know why are flexing srs

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >I just say thanks and throw their number away,i'm not interested. been there done that and honostly not worth it
          how can you not be interested in sex? am I just a coomer? women are my achilles heel.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            you better familiarize yourself with divorce rape. this man is enslaved to his vaginal master

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not a child,when i was your age i was just like you,well maybe not just like you I fucked like a jackrabbit but now i'm older went through a rough divorce that cost me almost everything now i've rebuilt my life and am happy and want to stay that way. You have a lot to learn. my advise find a GOOD woman and treat he like a queen if you don't she'll cheat and take all your shit.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I'm getting closer to 30, don't feel like a kid anymore. anyway I have a good woman already but when skanks at work flirt with me I am mightily tempted.

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I did it because I hate myself. I hate women too, and coincidentally the only women I have contact with are my mom and grandmother. Women are shit and I wish I could prevent them from even looking at me.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      that's pretty gay bro

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Don't push your fantasies on me, cake boy.

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    No. And its why ive given up, and it makes peopke seethe.

    Between inflation and infertility caused by vaccines, ill never have a family, not only thst but i have to give 30-50% of my income to taxes, then get garnished by RC cause i worked through a recession and oil crash instead of going on welfare.

    No point in working hard. Ill never be able to get a car given the impending garnish and how hard it is to climb out of a hole, and the reason im in this mess is cause i followed boomer advice.

    I pulled myself up by my boot straps, tightened up my belt, put my head down and worked through it honestly.

    Now ive accepted hard work is a meme and dont bother. Its not worth it,

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm blooming because the way I lived was going to kill me and its bloom or die.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah tbqh i am reaching that point too (or I am being far too hypochondriac) but i will no choice soon but to go on a diet and start going outside

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Not all behaviors are adaptive.

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Schopenhauer argues that existence swings between pain and boredom.
    In my case, I had an injury in highschool and if I don't workout, shoulder arthritis makes life more painful. Same could be said about my reading, it helps me cope with the human condition. Of course I can go crazy for a girl that shows me kindness, but a couple of hours later I rationalize I wouldn't risk having my kids to have the same hyper-lax joints condition that runs in my family.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Let me spell it out for OP.
      >Get painful arthritis
      >workout to reduce pain
      where in this self-improvement workout are girls or reproduction involved?

      If your gums bleed while flossing you have gingivitis and no sane dentist would say you have good oral health.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        i didnt say flossing but brushing and all dentists and orthodonts always compliment me on my rarely good teeth. cope and seethe. also keep brushing that goy poison morning and evening

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You didn't answer my main point which is self-improvement to avoid pain.

          I don't consider flossing (or brushing) self-improvement. But then, I'm arguing with a dude that sleeps on his own urine.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Medical therapy is not self-improvement
            i usually dont bother replying to stupid posts but sure here

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Pain avoidance is not medical treatment. NPCs like you enjoy their pain and misery. Enjoy your piss stench, gypsy.

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is that ugly women think men do it for all women

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    yes its for women, what is the problem?

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Some parts of it like exercise for sure, I like the feeling that comes afterwards regardless and learning new things can be pretty rewarding if its something interesting

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm working out so I'm physically ready for what has become inevitable at this point

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      speak for your country, nothings happening on the balkans. all i need to do to survive is walk 5km to the nearest mountain and disappear in the woods, if mandatory draft happens at all

  48. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck you OP
    >meet girl online
    >meet loads of girls online what's the big deal?
    >I say LULZ shit in front of them and act like a schizo lol cow, who cares?
    >meet one girl through her ex, don't care about her for months
    >friends start telling me I should date her
    >fall for her despite her being wrong for me in every way
    I wish I could push a button and make the feelings go away. Every time I tell myself that I physically push my finger against something as if doing so. I fucking wake up and get maybe 5 seconds before I think of her. I'm trying so hard to meet other women irl, any woman, just get laid for fucks sake but I'm an ugly 28 year old virgin.

    So I started working out but I know I'm only doing it to try to "win" her which will NEVER happen. At least one day I'll hopefully be over it and have some improvement but I still don't eat enough so it's a waste of time... same with trying to improve my in one, it's just to attarct a girl I can never get what a fucking pathetic joke. I'm genuinely the most worthless cuck and should be killed.

  49. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >would you still do it
    Yes. I exercise for health, I don't want to be weak and I hate that old age forces me to be weak in the future. I try to learn new skills because otherwise I would be helpless, and everyone knows learning history and philosophy doesn't make you wise, but gets pussy wet like none other. Or maybe its the former, who knows?
    Anyway, this all tells more about you than anything else, you can't imagine doing anything that does not help you get pussy, and that's just pathetic.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why is it pathetic? My hobbies are learning history and write too, yet thats not self-improvement, thats nerd shit that women hate
      i was talking about self-improvement : becoming a work drone, hitting the gym and eating tasteless mundane shit everyday

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Becoming drone is not improvement, its the opposite. Also its pathetic that you don't do shit to self-actualize or to be better, you look for acceptance of someone else, and not your own, to the point you can't even think of doing anything that isn't for getting that acceptance from women. In my eyes you're subhuman.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >in my eyes you are subhuman
          likewise, in my eyes you are the subhuman. you know what nurses say is the biggest regret of dying men? its that they worked too much.
          and let me take a wild guess here, mister unique and genuine noodledick, you liking yourself also includes working and advancing at work, right?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You are based as fuck anon.

            Remember. When guys like us stop working it takes 2-5 normies to replace us. Fuck em.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              thanks anon
              are you that anon from the other day who is old, has worked in construction and built two roads or something?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No. Im just a regular blue collar guy who sees theres no point in working hard, and that i was lied too my whole life.

                I wish there was less normies and more people like us, it would be a just and honest world, one worth participating in.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >you liking yourself also includes working and advancing at work, right?
            I'm not stupid, there's no advancement in work, not anymore. Its just dropping of living standards and wages, while prices rise. That ship is sinking.

  50. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Looking good makes women find you more sexually attractive. Yes you should lift and not be fat.

  51. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Self improvement makes you feel good which enhances your life. I have no troubles getting laid but I do have a hard time finding women who aren't flakey and want an actual committed relationship. Women these days act like how they think male players act.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      All women are flakey as fuck dude.
      You practically have to kidnap them or go pick them up and pay for the whole thing, and even then.

      We live in a society where people just ghost you, but if you ghost them suddenly its this big huge fucking issue thats the end of the world.

      Women are literally NPC's.

      They hold four or more conflicting beliefs then make up justifications to hide the cognitive dissonance. Its fucked, why ca t people be honest!, the boomers said if i treated everyonr the way i wanted to be treated (fairly and with respect,as i do) id get the same.

      Why would they lie to me unless they wanted to watch me suffer?,

      All the woe is me crap aside. Nothing will ever change until society collapses and we cull the weak. We are ruled by them, and they do not perscribe to ideals such as honesty.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >or go pick them up and pay for the whole thing, and even then.

        If a woman isn't trying to go out of her way to see me or isn't responsive enough when I try to set something up, then I don't bother. The more you "chase" the less they want to do with you. It's these sort of mindgames that make dating tiresome because women can never be straight forward. They believe they're some sort of prize but from what I've seen they have 0 accountability and show absolutely zero appreciation for when you do something for them.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Im aware and its a part of the reason i too dont bother with their games.

          I look alot like the MC from Vikings, and am tall and in moderately good shape, i dont have a problem fucking random chicks, its just women want so much effort and time investment for minimum returns.

          Jerking off and then having a beer with my kings is a million times more stimulating than dealing with women, also i took the redpill, lifted and red the side bar and then spent a year treating women like objects and playing them, and seeing the contrast in how i was treated as opposed to when i was a nice guy real man......blackpilling.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Jerking off and then having a beer with my kings is a million times more stimulating than dealing with women, also i took the redpill, lifted and red the side bar and then spent a year treating women like objects and playing them, and seeing the contrast in how i was treated as opposed to when i was a nice guy real man......blackpilling.
            I fucking hate how true this is.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Some of my kings are headed down the path, we have one that just walks in amd treats women like shit but is a big guy.

              He pulls all the time. Fucking warlord.

              Ive fucked 200+ women. Barely any of them respond the next day, and i have a decent cock + go a long time. I dont get it.

              Also alot of guys with kids who are deadbeats are just ONS/ she fucked a loser bad boy. Chicks dont want working class men who are awake 3 hours a day. They want the loser they can get attention from/bad boy feelz.

              Know a few dudes who sell coke. Dont date women who use.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >200+
                nice, my count is like 9 or 10, 3 of which are prostitues and 5 are slampigs, two decent ones.
                >they dont respond the next day
                wtf. thats odd

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah i know its the fucking weirdest thing ever. I dont know what it is but women just want to fuck me, but in terms of muh nice guy real man im probably top 30% of men.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      But why does it make you feel good? Because it’s all about increasing social status.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't really make me feel good other than the sex. There's hardly any "status" I gain from it either. Explain to me how the fuck are you supposed to find a committed relationship without actually trying? You will find women that show interest, will fuck you, and then ghost you. Finding "love" is a numbers game and dating sucks. It just leaves my heart and balls feelings empty. It actually does fuck with my mind when women sleep with me and ghost.

        Im aware and its a part of the reason i too dont bother with their games.

        I look alot like the MC from Vikings, and am tall and in moderately good shape, i dont have a problem fucking random chicks, its just women want so much effort and time investment for minimum returns.

        Jerking off and then having a beer with my kings is a million times more stimulating than dealing with women, also i took the redpill, lifted and red the side bar and then spent a year treating women like objects and playing them, and seeing the contrast in how i was treated as opposed to when i was a nice guy real man......blackpilling.

        >its just women want so much effort and time investment for minimum returns.

        Pretty much this, and they have very little to offer in return besides sex. They will not be supportive in various different ways.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Ive been in two long term relationships and a few other ones.

          Women bear no loyalty, once their pair bonding ability is fried or they go to the bar and have a bunch of dudea buying them drinks its over. Sadly they dont figure the game out till its too late to settle with a good man.

          Truth is, the game was rigged from the start, goy.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Can a mans pair bonding abilities get fried even if his intentions when hooking up are to find a wife? I feel like it has to be bad, even for a man.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I want a wife but see the way we are headed.

              Buying MRE's and other metal food items sre a far greater use of resources than dating or courting women. Just gotta find a way to test for vax status post collapse.

              Jabbies arent getting food, and it will by hyper inflation before its civil war.

  52. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >All your self-improvement is for women
    Fair enough, I mean I try to be successful as a means of making the nest so to speak, like a male magpie, but I think that that's for my children.

    I think the worst thing a man can do is save up money for a woman. Women themselves are a means to an end (children), and women should never be bought; either overtly through prostitution, or covertly, through shiny things, cars and houses. To spoil a woman is to court disaster imo, because it plays right into their stupid fantasies. If you start to spoil a woman too much, be sure to dump her. Also don't date NEET women, and don't let her become NEET after marriage.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Great post
      Especially this part
      >Women themselves are a means to an end (children)

      Women are an addition to a mans estate, they are not an equal partner. Outside of the domestic sphere they have no interest in anything, they are obsessed with romance, men, and children.
      They have less higher human brain function, and more of an anchoring to their biological nature.

      A man should be more concerned with what his father thinks than what his future wife thinks. Women will change their opinion to whatever men talk about more. Western men are weak and the indulged boomer fathers gave up on society, refusing to pass on the ways and means. There are no more tribal chieftains and so we are scrambling around in the sand, trying to recalibrate society through a semiconductor powered global village on the internet.
      Is everything a tribe does orientated around the opinions of women? Then why is the chief a man? Aren't they concerned with basic survival at all? Outside of being mothers the tribal women are only capable of simple tasks like picking fruit, motherhood is the only important thing women can do. Every other important function is carried out by men.
      There isn't a single house in the entire developed world that was built by a group of women.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >women are an addition to a mans castle
        >women get custody every single time
        >man pays women to exist
        the copium induced delusion in your post is so hilarious.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >women get custody every single time
          >man pays women to exist
          These are bad things that clearly identify societal decay.

          I have just said
          >There isn't a single house in the entire developed world that was built by a group of women
          Therefore women should not be able to divorce, get custody, and get to stay in a house without a man, when that house was lived in by a married couple with kids.
          Women ruin everything they touch and our society is crumbling in large part because we have given them way too much credit.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I build houses for a living and you dont want to work with women. They just get in the way and cant physically do it, then end up in positions of authority over you cause they dont have the ability to advance their physical skills so you just give them plans and teach them how to read it to a bunch of people who work.

            Zero leadership ability. Do not work under women in the trades.

  53. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I used to be like that.
    But now I see that you need not "improve yourself", what you need to do is see what you like to do and do it for the sake of it. Because it is enjoyable and because it profits you to do so.

    That's why I stopped weightlifting and instead started boxing, as I enjoy fighting (even if I'm not as good as I want for now).

  54. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, to fight off homosexuals.

  55. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The desire for sex is one of the most powerful human motivators. Sages have known this fact for eons. Embrace and harness it instead of wasting your vital essence cooming to porn homosexual.

  56. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I do it to mog normies and make them seethe. I already have a gf and fuck when I want.

  57. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I’m doing it so I have a slightly better chance of surviving when there’s a war. Shit is getting real spooky.

  58. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >do not help yourself guys there's no reason besides pussy you would need it

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >wageslave your youth away guys you'll need those money to... to... uh...to go on a vacation once per year! its worth it!

  59. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I would rape your face repeatedly, then I would enter the kitchen and rape your mother over the sink, then I would go into your father's room and rape him anally over his astronomical studies on his desk, then I would rape your face again and take a shit in your bathroom

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, Luigi, it's time to get off the internet now, it's way past lunch time, stop pretending to be a big boy on the internet, go have your lunch with mommy.

  60. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 40 years old now. I almost settled down with a girl when I was 17. She was attractive and also a sex maniac. I spent my 20s and 30s fucking floozies off dating websites. I got pussy without even trying. All self improvement I do these days is entirely for myself. If you're trying to improve yourself just for women then you're just going to be disappointed every time since women are dumb fickle whores.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      100% agreed of the facts stated here. You're either a Chad or a beta-bux/emotional tampon/personal clown at best. True words
      What grinds my gears tho is other fags in their 20s that claim they go to gym and study coding "for themselves" which is total bullshit. its like women saying they dress and put on make up for themselves... yeah right

  61. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  62. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes yes I too remember when I first took the black pill. You are gonna rage for a while, then depressed, the whole denial-depression-acceptance thing will play out.
    Once you accept it, truly internalize it, your success and interactions with women will ironically imporve.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      its been at least 6 years now anon, when will i accept and be at peace with this basedciety

  63. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. I was severely overweight for over a decade, but fit as a kid. I fucking missed being able to walk to the bathroom without having to take a breather after. Wasn't about to pass out if I hadn't eaten in a couple hours, fucking aches and pains everywhere, sweat rashes, sweaty ass crack chafed thighs. Sleep apnea and and breathing difficulties.

    Women were not even on my mind when I decided to self improve

  64. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    bro what you talking about? Self improvement is all about getting bitches. I won't deny it. That puts the onus right back on women to actually be good women instead of whores, otherwise why would I want to improve myself and thus improve her life and the world around her? If women are trash, then I'm not improving for them, I'll make sure life is harder for them and I'll still try to do self improvement in the hopes I'll find a good woman, because what are the side effects if nothing but positive?

    Lol, you n-words are the only one's too proud to say you're doing it for pussy.

  65. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Self improvement is good. That's all there is to it.

  66. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm doing it for the pussy. I don't deny it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      bro what you talking about? Self improvement is all about getting bitches. I won't deny it. That puts the onus right back on women to actually be good women instead of whores, otherwise why would I want to improve myself and thus improve her life and the world around her? If women are trash, then I'm not improving for them, I'll make sure life is harder for them and I'll still try to do self improvement in the hopes I'll find a good woman, because what are the side effects if nothing but positive?

      Lol, you n-words are the only one's too proud to say you're doing it for pussy.

      everyone is, few like themselves enough to be able to admit it

      itt you have homosexuals claiming otherwise,

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Sure there are other benefits ... like avoiding diseases to the bodily organs and the like, and living longer ... But I don't plan on living past 60 anyway ... Sounds like hell on Earth, to live in a state of constant brokenness, racked with pain.

        Of course, when I reach that point, I'm sure the cowardice will set in. Few can truly accept death before it comes upon them. I doubt I am any different.

  67. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    sad coomer projection cope. i simply do not care about pursuing women.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >picture name
      thats from google, moron.
      >i dont care about pursuing women
      then you dont do self-improvement

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >then you dont do self-improvement
        wrong

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          ao u do it for women but rationalize it as something else

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            wrong

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >lack of words

              yes, and no
              i have a girl i am content with
              and watched myself start to slip
              i started improving myself because i dont want to become an out of shape bitch and enjoy being on the chad end of the spectrum
              /closing this tab

              >yes and yes
              all you wrote is that you live life to please women

  68. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I have a woman.
    I lift for Ragnarök.

  69. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    yes, and no
    i have a girl i am content with
    and watched myself start to slip
    i started improving myself because i dont want to become an out of shape bitch and enjoy being on the chad end of the spectrum
    /closing this tab

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