The genetic legacy of the Hunyadi descendants study. Matthias Corvinus and John Hunyadi were E-V13 chads like Vlad the Impaler and Skanderbeg.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844022030195
"Based on haplotype prediction, both samples can be classified into haplogroup E-M78 (E1b1b1a1) which was confirmed by testing the M78 SNP marker.
The E-M78 haplogroup may have been formed about 13,400 years ago (Adamov et al., 2015). Remains belonging to the E-M78 subgroup, dating from about 7000 years ago, were discovered in Avellaner cave, Spain (Lacan et al., 2011). Another E-M78 sample from the Sopot culture was found in Hungary (5000-4800 BCE) (Szécsényi-Nagy, 2015). This indicates that E-M78 men most likely arrived with Neolithic farmers from the Fertile Crescent to Europe and even Asia (Battaglia et al., 2009). Within a few centuries, haplogroup E-V13 became one of the most widespread male lineages in Europe, reaching far beyond the borders of Europe and the Mediterranean, as Asia (Cruciani et al., 2007)."
"4. Conclusion
We have successfully identified the DNA profile of the last two male members of the renowned Central European Hunyadi family, who have an ancient Neolithic genetic heritage at the genomic level. The Y-chromosomal E1b1b1a1b1a6a1c ∼ (E-BY4281) haplogroup, which characterizes the Hunyadi family, will provide clues for the attempt to identify the remains of Matthias Hunyadi, among the remains from the ossarium adjacent to the site of the destroyed basilica at Székesfehérvár, Hungary."
It looks like E-V13 chads were the biggest resistors of ottoman invaders:
>Matthias Corvinus
>John Hunyadi
>Vlad the Impaler
>Skanderbeg
All proven to be E-V13. Also were in the order of the dragon, seems to be a society for only E-V13 chads. Meanwhile I2a-Din and R1a Slavs took it up the ass from Turks while E-V13 resisted Turkish invasions and a fought a brutal 200 years war - 1351-1550’s.
> WE WUZ BALKAnaggerS!!!
Eh, okay?
Are you mad?
I am a descendant of literally Aryans, why shall I care?
Why’d you post then? I’m posting recently revealed genetic evidence showing yet another E-V13 chad while Slavs sucked Turk dick and still do this day with loads of slavoman women moving to turkey to fuck and marry Turks!
The Ottomans were R1a too. How many times you all were slayed by us just for fun, can you remember? Since 6000 BCE.
>R1a ottoman
For sure; here’s how you pajeets look like.
Is he an Ottoman dynasty's member? Only they were R1a there, the majority was J2 and R1b. And I didn't hear the answer though.
The entire dynasty was r1a. Eventually E-V13 men came to dominate the Ottoman Empire.
> WE WUZ BALKAnaggerS AND ROACHES BOTH!!!
Miserable, pitiful kang. Go back to Africa, there nobody shall argue with your kangizh claims.
Is this a joke? R1b-M69cels weren’t in Europe when E-V13 chads were thriving and starting civilizations. Let’s not mention R1ajeets who aren’t European to begin with.
There's no E-V13 in any ancient European civilizations.
E-V13 found in 5000 BC Catalonia, E-V13 precedexcor found in Copper age Croatia. More samples will prove what is already known by the heart just like the Hunyadis being E-V13 chads. Never have I ever felt them to be anything like the Slavs or Uraloids or Germans. It is known.
>5000 BC Catalonia
I'm not sure if it's E-V13. It's also not a civilization. Same with Copper Age Croatia.
Right now E-V13 seem to be related to the expansion of Thracians.
It hasn't been found in ancient Greeks or in ancient Romans. Obviously also not in Minoans.
Local male haplogroups sometimes dominated the Indo-European ones, like in Scandinavia or in the Balkans (Illyrians with J2b, Thracians with E1b1b).
Ottomans were Q1a, like all Turcomans.
Except for Russians. They ravage Turkic ancestral lands
>The Order of the Dragon (Latin: Societas Draconistarum, literally "Society of the Dragonists") was a monarchical chivalric order only for selected higher aristocracy and monarchs,[1] founded in 1408 by Sigismund of Luxembourg, who was then King of Hungary and Croatia (r. 1387–1437) and later became Holy Roman Emperor (r. 1433–1437). It was fashioned after the military orders of the Crusades, requiring its initiates to defend the cross and fight the enemies of Christianity, particularly the Ottoman Empire.
Four members belonged to E-V13. Corvinus, Hunyadi, Skanderbeg, Vlad the impaler. It would seem to me that most of there members belonged to this lineage and eventually their control of Europe was lost to Turks in the Balkans and israelites in the rest of Europe.
Order of the Dragon in general is very underrated. We need it featured more in literature.
How does this prove he wasn't Hungarian?
The old dispute comes from Matthias Corvinus himself calling himself a Romanian
He was born to a Romanian noble family and shares a Haplogroup common in Romania
So doesn't really prove anything so far right?
He also spoke romanian, his father was referred to as the Wallachian by Hungarian chroniclers, he was born in a city that had a population split between romanians and hungarians, and again, called himself romaninan(though this was him trying to we wuz as a roman more than anything)
Distance to: CJM_scaled
0.02970590 Romanian
0.03029947 Italian_Northeast
0.03196798 Montenegrin
0.03372641 French_Provence
0.03449171 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03555813 Serbian
0.03656456 French_Alsace
0.03660165 Bulgarian
0.03743823 Swiss_French
0.03777062 Swiss_German
Distance to: CKM_scaled
0.02719953 Swiss_Italian
0.02743468 Italian_Veneto
0.02763403 Italian_Piedmont
0.02840394 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.02912432 Italian_Emilia
0.02918315 Italian_Northeast
0.02965692 Italian_Liguria
0.02969477 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03008433 Italian_Lombardy
0.03024600 French_Provence
Johannes Corvinus and Christophorus Corvinus. Johannes clusters in a weird position. Probably had some East Asian ancestry.
Sauce on the hunyadis numbers?
Someone posted them on anthrogenica. Also, from the paper:
>At the population level the Corvinus genome clustered with populations from northern Italy, Spain, Basques, France, Croatians and Hungarians (Figure 3c). The genome of the medieval Corvinus show the greatest similarity to the genomes of today’s southern European and Carpathian Basin populations, but we can also find individuals with similar genome compositions in the Eastern European steppe.
Sounds like it's widespread and among Hungarians too
>Ancient samples with paternal Hg E1b1b1a1b1a6a1 probably have widespread geographical and chronological distribution. One was excavated in Medieval Sardinia (Marcus et al., 2020) and another one was derived from the Otrar-Karatau culture of the Iron Age Kazakh steppe (Gnecchi-Ruscone et al., 2021), both sample belonged to: E1b1b1a1b1a6a1∼; E-CTS9320. The same sublineage of E-V13 (E1b1b1a1b1a) had been detected in the Carpathian Basin in Avar individuals (650–675 AD), elite Hungarian Conquerors (895–950 AD) (Neparáczki et al., 2019), and in a Medieval Hungarian nobleman
Wikipedia is shit for ancient DNA. There's an unpublished paper with samples from Roman Serbia. More than 50% samples are E-V13. It was a Balkan lineage, probably a Thracian one.
That was copied from the study link OP posted
Ok? But saying he is this haplogroup doesn't prove anything about him being Hungarian or not.
Are tryings to steal others' history a specific trait of E-naggers? Maybe, it is just an inferiority complex? Anyway even their favorite Egyptians were ruled by R, such a woe.
Don't pick a fight with E, the greatest military commander to ever exist, Napoleon Bonaparte was an E
We will conquer you and your descendents will worship our works and the laws we leave behind
>the greatest military commander
>lost to serf drunkers
Yes, and also proto-chud incel Schicklgruber.
And the Semites. They all are J, all Semitic dynasties and elites are J. If I would be a E-nagger, I will kill myself.
No shit. He was the only Hungarian monarch who didn't have any blood relations to the original ruling House of Árpád in any way.
Just a thought; the Merovingian whom were R1b were replaced by the Carolingians whom were G and a native(er) race to Europe than R1b-M69cels. The same happened in Hungary where native E-V13 came to rule over the foreign slavshits and Uralic horserapists. The Carolingians and Hunyadis defended Europe from J1 Islamic conquest while the R1b and R1a, Q, N etc...foreigners would always yield to Islamic aggression just like today. I1 and I2 were cucks so they’re irrelevant.
In your mind was each group its own individual haplogroup at the time? Or were they combined of multiple different haplogroups?
The Meros were German horde, rapists losers and retards. The caros were native Europeans of Neolithic stock, not foreign steppe shit or abo I2 crap. They saved Europe from moors just like E-V13 chads saved Europe from Turks.
Are you feeling okay? Maybe you meant to respond to someone else.
My question was:
>In your mind was each group its own individual haplogroup at the time? Or were they combined of multiple different haplogroups?
I’d say a bit of both. Modern day ethnic groups are made up of multiple ethnic groups.
Ok that seems to be what I read as well. Haplogroup migration seemed to include a mix of hsplogroups moving into an area at the same time.
>the Merovingian whom were R1b were replaced by the Carolingians whom were G
Source?
Two samples of supposed ancient members were G but three lines of modern descendants are R1b though.
You says about Capetians.
Oh, really, Carolingians were R1b without doubts then.
Cope harder, Aslumbek. No even hints to Q, only some bastards had J.
E1b, I1, and N1c have the biggest inferiority complex here. Thoughts?
Do these haplo people even know their own haplogroups? If they didn't why wouldn't they just go with the infinitely more meaningful autosomal dna?
If they do*
E-V13 chads produce warrior-kings and intelligent men that invent useful things like this airplane (the Wright brothers).
>were isolated by 60.000.000 years
>were genocided in Europe
>were genocided in Levant
>were enslaved in Africa
>500 millions but produced nothing
The biggest inferiority complex.
>infinitely more meaningful
Nothing shall remain of your auDNA after 10 generations.
Same applies to your haplogroups potentially
>potentially
>if
This, while auDNA shall disappear without doubts.
Nothing will remain of your Y-DNA if you don't produce a son.
raping haplogroups
Illyrianbros we just can’t stop winning
Thracian*
Illyrians were R1b and J2b
Good fuck that Wallachian usurper... also Romanians are stupid. Everybody knows that his family came from the Balkans.