LULZ religion autists took that one article that showed that more "strict" religious groups are more likely to propagate themselves in the near future and have falsely assumed it was always like this. Before the Industrial Revolution, it was actually theologically and praxeologically moderate sects that survived. The Zealots vanished after only really existing for a good half century, Gnostics have mostly died out, militant Shia sects have almost entirely been wiped out aside for the Zaydis, only the most moderate community of Kharijites survived in the secluded region of Oman, time and time again moderates have won and won again.
>manichaeanism gets persecuted by the state the moment it gets anything close to a following >the roman state religion was practiced by every roman citizen right up until a band took over and invented his own flavor of judaism
I don't think these two things are similar at all.
#1. it's fake and gay and retarded and incredibly easy to rebut by even the most midwit of apologists for other religions
#2. one of their primary religious tenets was anti-natalism, and you aren't going to get many converts when you tell people not to have sex, or last very long when you are opposed to the very existence of children; not coincidentally the same reason the LGBT movement doesn't expand very far without government intervention
It's antinatalist for The Elect caste. The Hearers caste slave away for the Elect, and they are not as antinatalist or renunciatory. Regardless, the Hearers are promised positive rebirth.
i’ve spent all my life searching for the one true religion and more and more i’m starting to believe it’s mani’s way
it is the perfect fusion of western, eastern, christian, gnostic, zoroastrian, and pagan religions into a seamless whole that seems to answer many of the questions those other faiths can’t always easily answer
if it had had a state behind it, it would have become a major world religion (and there’s another timeline where it did)
You're probably poorly read Zoomer trash. Ditheism is philosophically indefensible, no matter how cool it sounds. The ditheism of Manichaeism is complete nonsense, and there's nothing monistic or nondualistic about the tradition.
Even modern scientific findings seem to move more in the direction of nonduality like Mahayana and Daoism.
Honestly, I am a much better than Mani, Jesus, Muhammad, and all of those retarded shitheads. You would be better served becoming my disciple instead, and yes, I have read the Cologne Mani Codex and it sucks. You're better off reading the Zhuangzi instead. Dumb cunt.
i’ve spent all my life searching for the one true religion and more and more i’m starting to believe it’s mani’s way
it is the perfect fusion of western, eastern, christian, gnostic, zoroastrian, and pagan religions into a seamless whole that seems to answer many of the questions those other faiths can’t always easily answer
if it had had a state behind it, it would have become a major world religion (and there’s another timeline where it did)
Problem is we don't know a huge amount of Manichaeanism becasue only fragments of Mani's teachings have survived. Jumping onto a dead religion makes you about as retarded as those people who unironically identfiy as "pagans" (this is like a black dude identifying as a nagger, because pagan was always a term of insult), gluing themselves to religious traditions they have no real understanding of.
spot on. it also speaks to the invalidly of the religion if the supposed driving divine force completely failed to preserve it to the point of it being extinct and the teachings forgotten
The got unlucky and no state adopted and enforced their doctrine aside some Uyghur khanate when the cult was already dying.
Their dogma was extremelly solid, as apparently Mani wrote a fuckton of books to try solve any possible future doctrinal schism, so it would had been a less unstable official religion compared to christianity
Because Mani encouraged his followers to take on the guise of other religious communities to promote their beliefs. You'd have Manichaean priests dressing and acting like Buddhist monks, appealing to Buddhist laymen, mixing Buddhist and Manichaean beliefs and doing the same with Christians. This led to them being seen as heretics by pretty much everyone rather than their own unique thing. Christians saw them as heretical Christians, Buddhists saw them as corrupt Buddhists, israelites didn't like them either. By the time Islam rolled aroun, Manichaeanism was nearly dead. They painted themselves into a corner and died out.
That being said, Manichaeanism had a big influence on Christianity. Augustine was an ex-Manichaean. A lot of Manichaean and Iranian beliefs made their way into mainstream Catholicism. The battle against the forces of good and evil, that the cosmos was divided between the forces of God and Satan, and man is this fallen creature caught in the middle who must live an ascetic life to free himself etc.
Didn't inspire its followers enough to produce martyrs and fanatical proselytizers. Yeah it faced persecution but so did Christianity, and Christianity thrived in spite of its persecution because of the fervor of its believers.
Christianity and islam
If Iran were Manichaean, then Christcuck Westernshits would be complaining about how they're docetists, lol.
Literally nobody care about iran
You have persecution complex
>Literally nobody care about iran
I wish. Threads like these and many others show otherwise.
Why does he have rabbit ears?
They refused to breed.
That's a funny way of not saying Islamic genocide.
LULZ religion autists took that one article that showed that more "strict" religious groups are more likely to propagate themselves in the near future and have falsely assumed it was always like this. Before the Industrial Revolution, it was actually theologically and praxeologically moderate sects that survived. The Zealots vanished after only really existing for a good half century, Gnostics have mostly died out, militant Shia sects have almost entirely been wiped out aside for the Zaydis, only the most moderate community of Kharijites survived in the secluded region of Oman, time and time again moderates have won and won again.
vegetarianism
Only the priestly class was vegetarian
"Let's just all get along" reddit shit religion. Same reason why the roman imperial cults didn't succeed.
>manichaeanism gets persecuted by the state the moment it gets anything close to a following
>the roman state religion was practiced by every roman citizen right up until a band took over and invented his own flavor of judaism
I don't think these two things are similar at all.
God hates ~~*mani*~~ and manichaeism, that's why
#1. it's fake and gay and retarded and incredibly easy to rebut by even the most midwit of apologists for other religions
#2. one of their primary religious tenets was anti-natalism, and you aren't going to get many converts when you tell people not to have sex, or last very long when you are opposed to the very existence of children; not coincidentally the same reason the LGBT movement doesn't expand very far without government intervention
It's antinatalist for The Elect caste. The Hearers caste slave away for the Elect, and they are not as antinatalist or renunciatory. Regardless, the Hearers are promised positive rebirth.
You're probably poorly read Zoomer trash. Ditheism is philosophically indefensible, no matter how cool it sounds. The ditheism of Manichaeism is complete nonsense, and there's nothing monistic or nondualistic about the tradition.
Even modern scientific findings seem to move more in the direction of nonduality like Mahayana and Daoism.
Honestly, I am a much better than Mani, Jesus, Muhammad, and all of those retarded shitheads. You would be better served becoming my disciple instead, and yes, I have read the Cologne Mani Codex and it sucks. You're better off reading the Zhuangzi instead. Dumb cunt.
i’ve spent all my life searching for the one true religion and more and more i’m starting to believe it’s mani’s way
it is the perfect fusion of western, eastern, christian, gnostic, zoroastrian, and pagan religions into a seamless whole that seems to answer many of the questions those other faiths can’t always easily answer
if it had had a state behind it, it would have become a major world religion (and there’s another timeline where it did)
why do dumbfucks think that the one true religion is one that completely died out and have no remaining chain of teachers?
Problem is we don't know a huge amount of Manichaeanism becasue only fragments of Mani's teachings have survived. Jumping onto a dead religion makes you about as retarded as those people who unironically identfiy as "pagans" (this is like a black dude identifying as a nagger, because pagan was always a term of insult), gluing themselves to religious traditions they have no real understanding of.
spot on. it also speaks to the invalidly of the religion if the supposed driving divine force completely failed to preserve it to the point of it being extinct and the teachings forgotten
The got unlucky and no state adopted and enforced their doctrine aside some Uyghur khanate when the cult was already dying.
Their dogma was extremelly solid, as apparently Mani wrote a fuckton of books to try solve any possible future doctrinal schism, so it would had been a less unstable official religion compared to christianity
Because Mani encouraged his followers to take on the guise of other religious communities to promote their beliefs. You'd have Manichaean priests dressing and acting like Buddhist monks, appealing to Buddhist laymen, mixing Buddhist and Manichaean beliefs and doing the same with Christians. This led to them being seen as heretics by pretty much everyone rather than their own unique thing. Christians saw them as heretical Christians, Buddhists saw them as corrupt Buddhists, israelites didn't like them either. By the time Islam rolled aroun, Manichaeanism was nearly dead. They painted themselves into a corner and died out.
That being said, Manichaeanism had a big influence on Christianity. Augustine was an ex-Manichaean. A lot of Manichaean and Iranian beliefs made their way into mainstream Catholicism. The battle against the forces of good and evil, that the cosmos was divided between the forces of God and Satan, and man is this fallen creature caught in the middle who must live an ascetic life to free himself etc.
Didn't inspire its followers enough to produce martyrs and fanatical proselytizers. Yeah it faced persecution but so did Christianity, and Christianity thrived in spite of its persecution because of the fervor of its believers.