>make Bumble account
>no success unless I have 0 standards and am willing to have sex with fat pigs
I'm not a Chad but I'm at least a 7/10 and socially affluent. My pics aren't too bad either. How long will it take for me to land an attractive match that isn't a bot or a scammer?
This probably gets said here multiple times a day, but internet dating is fucked up for men. Waste of time if you're not in the to 10% or so.
You're much better off meeting people in the real world.
According to this I am top 10% which I highly doubt
really?
do you get 5+ matches a day then yea you are top 10%
are you tall and white
can you describe your profile
i want to learn about this species of man
I'm 5'7 and black. I have a severe lisp and Asperger's which I'm up front about on my profile
It is not a high bar 90% of people are fuckin ogres
post bio and photos
No, you're just gonna have to take my word for it.
>actively being reminded that I am outside of the 10% range
Damn, that blows. Are there any apps that are known to do a better job of increasing the likelihood of a satisfying match? I've had friends recommended Hinge to me as a decent alternative.
hinge works much much better than bumble. Bumble requires women make the first move and most of the women who use it are so retarded that they aren't even aware that that's the whole point of the app
>hinge works much much better than bumble
Absolutely not. If you don't get attention on Bumble, give up on hinge.
Duality of man
Care to expand upon this, anon? What makes you think it's harder to find women on Hinge than on Bumble?
take my word for it
uggo with no redeeming qualities, but a sweet picture of a bass you caught 3 years ago
You're more wrong than I think you are ready to accept, but I forgive you for being unable to fathom the possibility that an anon who isn't ugly as fuck also isn't stupid enough to post doxxable information on a website full of malicious (albeit retarded) trolls.
For the sake of argument, assume that I am being totally honest, anon. If you can't even do that then kindly fuck off.
>assume that I am being totally honest
you're not. the person you're describing, would have success on dating apps
I HAVE had success, but only when I match with women that are way, WAY below what I am willing to go out with. The last time I dated someone who was below my standards was a complete fucking disaster so I'm not going to do that again.
>”i only can pull 4’s but i’m a 7 you gotta believe me bro”
Idk what you're hoping to prove here, anon. I gain literally nothing by lying to you.
honestly that's generally how it goes
women like guys above them
if you're a 7 dont expect to be dating a 7
you will be dating 6s or below
not my experience
This is definitely not accurate. Women will date much, much uglier men than them as long as the men are of higher status. STATUS is the real cocksucker, not looks.
yea for women the calculation of the points is not just looks
so a 7 guy could be ugly, but rich/famous what have you
that's the way i was thinking about it
looks matching is something else right
so basically as a man your rating is the combination of many things:
>looks
>personality
>status
so based on this the calculation for a man's score could be 7 in looks but 5 in personality and 5 in status and your overall rating will be closer to 5 than 7 so your dating pool will be 5s and below.
I think this is the problem many men face
they are not bad looking (7) but they have few friends, not the best job, and not insanely charismatic so the women they attract are on the uglier or not ideal for them scale
>STATUS is the real cocksucker, not looks.
It's both, for both. High status men always want high status women.
>high status men always want high status women
Absolutely bullshit. Men will date down and women won't in 9/10 cases. This is the rule of thumb.
Classy males always date / marry classy females. Look at celebrities, models, and CEOs and who they date / marry and you'll see this is how it is.
yea this is treu
and also women tend to not even like men who are the same status as them either
so a 7 women will hardly ever date a 7 man
As a man I think I am comfortable dating someone who makes less money, is lower in the social status to me no problem
so i don't think status is that big of an issue for men
The two things i look for are Beauty and Character
First thing is they have to be attractive to me
then they have to not be a whore
that's pretty much it lol
Has anyone here used Hinge and gotten any success?
About one week in, and the only like I've received was from a druggie trainwreck who was begging for money right on her profile
My girlfriend of just over a year I met on hinge. It felt like that dating app was a little more serious. I did go on a couple of dud dates before I met my girlfriend though. I did approach the dating app with a very specific mindset of not wanting to just sleep around and having high standards. You also only get like 5-6 swipes per day so I was really picky about who I'd swipe on. Obviously we live in the age of filters so it's not perfect, but it's a start. Those dud dates I knew within about 5-10 minutes if I really did like the girl or not.
Always try to keep first dates light on your wallet in case you are the type to pay for everything. I got tired of being a meal ticket in my college days so I started doing "coffee dates/drinking dates" where I'd show up a little early, get my drink of choice and let them pay for their own shit. Ask girls out to meet sooner rather than later. My girlfriend told me she liked that we met as soon as we did because she grew frustrated from wasting time talking to guys just for it to lead no where or not lead to a date. I'm not saying ask a girl out as soon as you two match, but try your best to break the ice, talk a little bit and try to move to a face-to-face meet up sooner rather than later.
I don't know if any of this rambling helps, but it worked for me.
only thing that could be messing you up is that you dont live in a big enough city
then, the other thing can be that although your looks are good
your bio can be over the top and isolate people
and your pictures can be depressive or too niche
gotta maximize on genericness while demonstrating this
:fun, humor, confidence, social, and goals
also you could be too young as well
women generally want someone with experience so if you are swiping on girls who are around your age or above your age this could result in fewer matches
My I have 2 photos that MIGHT be a bit over-the-top, but they are full-body photos that show off my physique. One of them is me swinging a golf club at some park (I don't play golf or anything, just happened to be doing so on that day) and the other is me with a cheap cigar in my mouth after a night out on the town.
The other factors are not applicable here.
now this is just me probably nit-picking but
>swinging a golf club at some park
depends on your area this could be a turn on or off/ so kind of niche
>cheap cigar in my mouth
now, i know were I live this will isolate over half the population at least
so you're isolating another part of the population with a pic like that
but if the other photos show of your physique and are positive (you're smiling/ having fun/ not trying to show off) then that's all you can do to improve
If you live in a big city (over 1 million in population at least) then if you are good looking you shouldn't be having much problems getting a couple matches everyday i think
I live in a gigantic city in the US so the population size is not a problem. I put on some filters (like verified profiles ONLY and women without children ONLY) and that has significantly reduced the number of daily matches I am getting. I used to get that ratio you are describing, but most of them would never message me or were either scam or bot accounts or would immediately unmatch me after I would respond to their initial message.
hmm
if all the matches you get are scam accounts then it really is tough out in america
but since you live in a gigantic city then you could be focusing instead on these two things
1. building a social circle and
2. finding bars, event spaces, restaurants, cafes where you are comfortable in and you feel at home in.
Once you have those two dialed in, meeting people and girls will become much easier.
having people who you can go out to town with and find a place where you always hang out at and become regulars at is powerful
simply having fun together with friends and doing things does a lot for you:
>gets you better natural pictures
>allows you to socialize with other groups in that place you go to easily
>more girls come in and out of your life
Based on what you're telling me you have already maxxed out your potential on dating apps
so you have to move to the next thing which might sound hard but it really is just:
go out in to the real world and have fun
I'm 32, anon-- trust me when I say that I have all of what you are describing and have DONE all of what you are describing. I've had girlfriends here and there, oneitis's included, and have ended up breaking up with or alienating all of them for one reason or another. I'm painfully aware of how socializing and dating works and I've had success attracting women within social settings many, many times.
The issue here is, evidently, that the dating apps might just be total bullshit (or at least Bumble definitely is). I've got a subscription until the 1st of October so I guess I'll just keep hacking away at it in the hopes of something working out until then. After that, I'm moving to Hinge.
I've decided to make my profile even more generic, anon. I'm concerned that this'll make me attract people who I can't genuinely relate to, but I guess in the end every person can be understood given enough time and effort.
I removed the picture of myself with the cigar, but I'm unsure about whether or not I should take down pic related. I drew this shit myself and it's a pretty accurate reflection of the kind of drunken madman I was back in my 20s, but I think this may fall under your criteria for being way, WAY too niche.
Yea man
for sure in dating apps avoid these type of vibes:
1. Serious
2. creepy
3. scary
Anything with that type of vibe will destroy your potential matches
Basically anything that does not fit into these boxes i would eliminate
1. fun
2. happiness
3. positivity
Simply because it's an algorithm right?
you want your profile to be shown to people you could genuinely connect with
but if the people you wouldn't connect with dont swipe right on you (even if you dont swipe right on them) then the people you want to connect with will never even see your profile
It's painful for me to do this. I already have other pictures showing me laughing with people and ones that make me look normal enough. These artsy fartsy pics I have aren't nearly cringeworthy enough to completely invalidate everything else, are they? I understand that the decision to sipe and such are made almost entirely on impulse, so I guess if they see even the least bit of something offensive then they'll drop me like a hot potato.
But goddamn.
I WANT MY QT ARTSY FARTSY BITCH, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
>I WANT MY QT ARTSY FARTSY BITCH, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
she'll never see your profile bro if you repel 80% of other women
that's why dating apps suck
but that's not stopping you from only swiping on artsy girls
you dont have to swipe on the normies bro
but you want the normies to swipe on you
so that everyone sees your profile
Alright anon, I'm taking your word for it. I'm dropping whatever eccentricities I've got on there and doing my best to appeal to everyone and no one.
take that down immediately and post some photos of yourself with an art gallery. I don't care if you have to go in there with a tripod and take some fake candid photos like a fag god damn take that horrifying shit down immediately. Save depth for later. Much later
>be tall and prove it in your profile
>be handsome
>be fit
>show you lead a fulfilling normie life
okay after step 1 then you should have better luck!
>tall
>tfw 5'10"
This is really the only thing I can't admit to be without potentially causing them to throw a shitfit over me catfishing them. I used to have an absurd height (7'0") and an absurd career (Astronaut President Surgeon) because my real height and real career are mediocre as fuck, but the way I see it they're more likely to assume I'm just insane than to see those stats as funny or silly.
Fuck man i would have almost thought i started the thread, i have the exact same issue as you do. Unfortunately for me hinge hasnt given me much sucess at all (only 1 date using it) but its more than bumble ever provided me
All of the good women got off the apps a long time ago. They either already met their matches and got hitched or they very quickly got turned off by the unsolicited dick pics they received.
Its a but harder for me i live in a city in canada of about 1million and the women here are so picky. Id describe myself pretty.much similar to your inital post and have like 0 luck myself
Having sex with fatties isn't as bad as you think. Fat girls often feel like they have something to prove in the bedroom, and they can also lose weight.
It is. I hooked up with a girl I had a LOT in common with, but she weighed about 50 pounds more than me. Sex was impossible, and that ruined everything.
It's truly a shame. My quest for p00sy would have ended with her, but neither of us could deal with the sexual incongruence between us.
That’s impossible. I’m far from a 7/10 and get several matches a day with bathroom pics. Cute, thin girls. Every now and then some slightly overweight girl with a cute face.
>that's impossible
Where do you live, anon? From what I hear, things outside of the US aren't so completely fucked.
South America, one of the three or two countries that aren’t absolute shitholes. Maybe you’re right.
The US is slowly approaching Japan in terms of batshit insane, unrealistic standards for everyone, everywhere.
OP here
I've abandoned hope. I made the mistake of paying for this shitty bullshit account and now I'm stuck with Bumble as my primary source of romance until the first of October.
Welp, I'm gonna spam likes endlessly until I get algorithm'd into oblivion. nagger women, homosexuals and trannies are welcome. Let's see how many likes I get after submitting my application to every idiot within a 2 million human population radius.
internet dating literelly cannot work for men because women do not ever use it
women are all autistic, they can only speak and interact with people in schools or through people they already know, women cannot handle change of their routine
if you want to date, you have to quit work and go to university again
>I'm not a Chad
Okay? So what's the problem? Why do you expect more than what's already handed to you? If you lower your expectations, you'll never get disappointed.
>How long will it take for me to land an attractive match?
Impossible, especially on dating apps unless you're Chad.