Luther and the reformists were right both in their objections of theology and the secular politics involving the Roman church.
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Luther and the reformists were right both in their objections of theology and the secular politics involving the Roman church.
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They had no authority to reject the sacraments
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Not only did they not reject the sacraments, they restored the role of the sacrament by insisting on both kinds to the whole congregation and prioritized more frequent observance. The custom of the high middle ages was once a year and one kind.
Also wrong
The unifying mark of protestantism is protestant theology. The Catholic reformation made its own changes from late medieval practice, it's called the council of Trent.
>Not only did they not reject the sacraments
tell that to the dozens of branches who do not even acknowledge the sacraments
>they restored the role of the sacrament by insisting on both kinds to the whole congregation and prioritized more frequent observance
how do you know its a restoration and not a larp / appropriation?
Such as?
Let's assume they were correct about authority & politics in the Church. They're rejecting the sacraments, so what's the point of being a prot? It's like going outside and starving yourself to death because you don't like your dad.
>prots don't have sacraments
>the vatican is daddy not God
>prots don't have sacraments
The only unifying mark of protestantism is not being Catholic. Which protestant church holds to all of them?
>the vatican is daddy not God
I wrote a simple allegory, but you didn't respond to the actual point either because of your misunderstanding or personal disagreement with the authority of the Church. I suppose it could be more accurately stated as "the babysitter your dad put in charge".
>The only unifying mark of protestantism is not being Catholic.
Name a single Protestant denomination that rejects Sola Fide
I can't, because I wouldn't know. There isn't any one doctrine to point to which defines every single protestant ever. An absence of tradition and teaching authority means there's no dogmatic anchor or definitive answer across the short lifespan of thousands of protestant-identifying churches to qualify them together by.
So what's the point of living without the sacraments? Which group of protestant has them all? Though if your answer is "X sacrament isn't a real sacrament", then there's nothing more I can reply with, because that's an argument that can't be settled on IQfy.
You do not know what you're talking about
>I can't, because I wouldn't know.
Then you have no right to talk about what makes Protestants Protestants.
Why won't you answer my questions about them, then?
Because it was irrelevant to my question. Different Protestant denominations have different numbers and combinations of sacraments, but so what? Doesn't mean that there are no common denominators at all.
is this just another over the tens of thousands of protestant schism?
>instead of looking up easy to access information I'll rant on IQfy
Many such cases
It's easy to look up Catholic doctrine, because the Church is united and has clear authority on matters like the sacraments. There's no database on every protestant church without, and potential variations within each due to a lack of religious authority.
>It's too much work
Learning takes time and effort
God isn't real newbie cancer
Protestants have no valid sacraments and no authority to say they do
I'm not sure thats even the position of the Catholic church
well you're a protestant so of course you wouldn't know
Inform me
you brought of the catholic church when no one else did
I'm sorry do you have any knowledge about the question or not
You know the RCC permits lay baptism in emergencies
what does the catholic church have anything to do with the OP?
Did you read the op and the rest of the thread?
Different anon. This answers the question (Do Protestants have valid sacraments?)* in brief:
https://www.catholic.com/qa/how-valid-is-the-consecration-of-the-bread-and-wine-in-a-lutheran-or-episcopal-holy-eucharist
*This article is only addressed to the consecration of the bread and wine, not the other sacraments. Thus, for example, the Catholic Church recognizes the validity of Protestant baptisms, where the baptism is with water and uses the correct words (“I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”).
See: https://www.calledtocommunion.com/2012/03/are-protestant-baptisms-valid/
I agree that the prostitute of Babylon needs reformed.
A prostitute was told by Jesus to go and sin no more. Her lineage to the Roman Catholic Church reminds us all that she came from the mystery religion though, so whoever takes her needs to understand what they are marrying in to. That is why I draw the line and wouldn’t go into any of them.
Let them sort out their prostitutedoms and figure out how to get back to Jesus.
>secular politics involving the Roman church
> Orthodox
???
Don't worry about it. This thread is more worthless than the schizo ones; it's just trolling from OP.