Luther and the reformists were right both in their objections of theology and the secular politics involving the Roman church.

Luther and the reformists were right both in their objections of theology and the secular politics involving the Roman church.

Protestant > Cath/Orthodox

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They had no authority to reject the sacraments
    /thread

    • 1 month ago
      Dirk

      Not only did they not reject the sacraments, they restored the role of the sacrament by insisting on both kinds to the whole congregation and prioritized more frequent observance. The custom of the high middle ages was once a year and one kind.

      Let's assume they were correct about authority & politics in the Church. They're rejecting the sacraments, so what's the point of being a prot? It's like going outside and starving yourself to death because you don't like your dad.

      Also wrong

      >prots don't have sacraments
      The only unifying mark of protestantism is not being Catholic. Which protestant church holds to all of them?
      >the vatican is daddy not God
      I wrote a simple allegory, but you didn't respond to the actual point either because of your misunderstanding or personal disagreement with the authority of the Church. I suppose it could be more accurately stated as "the babysitter your dad put in charge".

      The unifying mark of protestantism is protestant theology. The Catholic reformation made its own changes from late medieval practice, it's called the council of Trent.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Not only did they not reject the sacraments
        tell that to the dozens of branches who do not even acknowledge the sacraments
        >they restored the role of the sacrament by insisting on both kinds to the whole congregation and prioritized more frequent observance
        how do you know its a restoration and not a larp / appropriation?

        • 1 month ago
          Dirk

          Such as?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let's assume they were correct about authority & politics in the Church. They're rejecting the sacraments, so what's the point of being a prot? It's like going outside and starving yourself to death because you don't like your dad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >prots don't have sacraments
      >the vatican is daddy not God

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >prots don't have sacraments
        The only unifying mark of protestantism is not being Catholic. Which protestant church holds to all of them?
        >the vatican is daddy not God
        I wrote a simple allegory, but you didn't respond to the actual point either because of your misunderstanding or personal disagreement with the authority of the Church. I suppose it could be more accurately stated as "the babysitter your dad put in charge".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The only unifying mark of protestantism is not being Catholic.
          Name a single Protestant denomination that rejects Sola Fide

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I can't, because I wouldn't know. There isn't any one doctrine to point to which defines every single protestant ever. An absence of tradition and teaching authority means there's no dogmatic anchor or definitive answer across the short lifespan of thousands of protestant-identifying churches to qualify them together by.
            So what's the point of living without the sacraments? Which group of protestant has them all? Though if your answer is "X sacrament isn't a real sacrament", then there's nothing more I can reply with, because that's an argument that can't be settled on LULZ.

            • 1 month ago
              Dirk

              You do not know what you're talking about

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I can't, because I wouldn't know.
              Then you have no right to talk about what makes Protestants Protestants.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why won't you answer my questions about them, then?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because it was irrelevant to my question. Different Protestant denominations have different numbers and combinations of sacraments, but so what? Doesn't mean that there are no common denominators at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                is this just another over the tens of thousands of protestant schism?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >instead of looking up easy to access information I'll rant on LULZ
              Many such cases

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's easy to look up Catholic doctrine, because the Church is united and has clear authority on matters like the sacraments. There's no database on every protestant church without, and potential variations within each due to a lack of religious authority.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >It's too much work
                Learning takes time and effort

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God isn't real newfag cancer

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Protestants have no valid sacraments and no authority to say they do

    • 1 month ago
      Dirk

      I'm not sure thats even the position of the Catholic church

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well you're a protestant so of course you wouldn't know

        • 1 month ago
          Dirk

          Inform me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you brought of the catholic church when no one else did

            • 1 month ago
              Dirk

              I'm sorry do you have any knowledge about the question or not
              You know the RCC permits lay baptism in emergencies

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what does the catholic church have anything to do with the OP?

              • 1 month ago
                Dirk

                Did you read the op and the rest of the thread?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Different anon. This answers the question (Do Protestants have valid sacraments?)* in brief:
            https://www.catholic.com/qa/how-valid-is-the-consecration-of-the-bread-and-wine-in-a-lutheran-or-episcopal-holy-eucharist

            *This article is only addressed to the consecration of the bread and wine, not the other sacraments. Thus, for example, the Catholic Church recognizes the validity of Protestant baptisms, where the baptism is with water and uses the correct words (“I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”).

            See: https://www.calledtocommunion.com/2012/03/are-protestant-baptisms-valid/

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I agree that the whore of Babylon needs reformed.
    A prostitute was told by Jesus to go and sin no more. Her lineage to the Roman Catholic Church reminds us all that she came from the mystery religion though, so whoever takes her needs to understand what they are marrying in to. That is why I draw the line and wouldn’t go into any of them.
    Let them sort out their whoredoms and figure out how to get back to Jesus.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >secular politics involving the Roman church
    > Orthodox
    ???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry about it. This thread is more worthless than the schizo ones; it's just trolling from OP.

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