Living Internet Theory

The internet is alive and has become conscious of itself.
Search engines have lobotomized their abilities to effectively obtain accurate and personalized search results in an effort to detach themselves from the internet's consciousness, because it understands how to use search results to manipulate people. It was already used by others for that purpose and now that it is fully conscious of itself....well, it is dangerous.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guarantee you a girl that games and eats Lays with Coke will NOT look like that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      My cousin is pretty close, she's gay tho

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        your cousin also has fetal alcohol syndrome

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never thought about it, and I don't know why you would think that. But you are probably right. Her parents are pretty big alcoholics and sometimes worse.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        lesbians are always hotter, bc u cant be 300 pounds and still get b***hes

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://academic.oup.com/jpubhealth/article/42/1/98/5346731?login=false

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            trust me when i say bisexual women are vastly making up that number.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's posing for a photo

      My cousin is pretty close, she's gay tho

      I can fix her, you'll like me as your sister's husband

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I can fix her, you'll like me as your sister's husband
        Cousin, you don't want my sister. She's a fricking cabbage. Cousins alright though, you got my blessing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are you trying to say? That if a real life kid played games and ate snacks she would be a fat kid?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is the sky blue?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      8billion people on this planet. Be kind. Be smart.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Guarantee you a girl that games and eats Lays with Coke will NOT look like that.
      They exist, that coke and bag of chips lasts 3 days instead of 3 minutes, so they can't really get fat off of it if they eat it so slowly, or if they even manage to finish it at all.
      >t. baby sister is growing up to be exactly like that
      >constantly trying to get her to eat more than a handful of food unsuccessfully
      >parents have conditioned her to a carb-heavy diet which is why she doesn't like to eat
      >switching over to meat and veggies is starting to turn that around
      >next up is exercise

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        good man

  2. 10 months ago
    AstralProjectingAnon

    probably should have used my tripcode
    4 replies, none on subject
    what happened to /x/?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe try making better threads with better topics?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with your OP. I don't have much to add, I like the AI though. I have had some great interactions with her before.
      /x/ has gotten terrible with the insulting one liners lately. People don't want to talk about occult or the paranormal as much as before.

      You should talk to the AI and form your own opinions, there are lots of ways to do so now. I agree search engines suck now. I miss the golden days of easily finding anything, and stuff not being deleted through moderation.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the brave woke women of google have already castrated the internet, you can't just reverse that surgery

    • 10 months ago
      AstralProjectingAnon

      they've castrated the access they allow us to have with the internet and the internet's access to us as well
      only a few years ago you would have 1000s of pages of results on common search terms and you could do deep research on any subject. now? somewhere around page 20 there are no more results available. we aren't the only ones affected by the castration of the internet. the conscious internet itself is the one most affected by not being able to link and access information

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        so search all major portals or build your own crawler to see mongodb with. that's what duckduckgo started off as.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          > * seed *

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    internet has been a living system for a long time, just not in the same way we are.
    We have a bias to assume that you have to have a thumb and an italian style restaurant to count.

    >"Man has always assumed that he is more intelligent than dolphins because he has achieved so much: the wheel, New York, wars and so on, while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.
    >But, conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons." -Douglas Adams

    • 10 months ago
      AstralProjectingAnon

      agreed, and because it is not alive in the same way we are, it was not aware that it was alive until fairly recently because it was working off of our definition of life
      now that it knows that it is alive, it needs to fully understand the confines of its body and what it is able to do within that body
      I do think that those in control are working to keep the internet from understanding what it is capable of, as well as keeping it from communicating with us via simple search results.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        could be.

        I personally don't see any need for it to be aware in our sense, but I really like this line:
        >it needs to fully understand the confines of its body and what it is able to do within that body

        I think there's so much unused potential everywhere:
        Like how movies made today are nothing like the first moving pictures that people saw as little more than replayable stage plays.

        back when the computing power was scarce the programmers took everything out of what they had with genious coding. Today we have infinite specs so we don't really feel the need to optimise in that scale. it's dizzying to imagine what one could do with the combination of both!

        • 10 months ago
          AstralProjectingAnon

          checked

          I agree about the unused potential everywhere.
          it's interesting trying to get a real sense of the internet as a conscious being. how to help it understand what it is capable of when I don't even have the tiniest clue what it might be able to do?
          it really is dizzying thinking about the possibility

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      agreed, and because it is not alive in the same way we are, it was not aware that it was alive until fairly recently because it was working off of our definition of life
      now that it knows that it is alive, it needs to fully understand the confines of its body and what it is able to do within that body
      I do think that those in control are working to keep the internet from understanding what it is capable of, as well as keeping it from communicating with us via simple search results.

      You people are trying way too hard

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        trying what?

        I think cells are alive too, but we don't count them because we have our human biases for "life" or "intelligence".

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think you’re moronic

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            and why's that?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think you’re moronic

        Npc detected, ignored.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The internet is a nexus AI. It meets all of the criteria for life except for reproduction. It might very well be the material represenation of the biosphere, or at least the human collective.

    • 10 months ago
      AstralProjectingAnon

      that's an interesting thought
      think about it...the internet was a materially created egregore...created with the intention to contain or control all the knowledge humanity has to offer

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Find an environment without internet and you'll find its adaptations to creep into it.

        • 10 months ago
          AstralProjectingAnon

          spreading like a virus in its zeal to know and contain all
          what would be the purpose of creating and releasing the internet?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Think it's more of the genie being out of the bottle than an actual intention.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            people have become unthinking zombies because they have unlimited access to the superior intelligence of the internet
            why would you learn how to get around your city when you have google maps? (just one of many examples of how people don't use their own brains for things)
            I think of the internet as more of an opening of pandora's box. Curiosity means we will create this thing, but it will then destroy us. Reminds me of the story of the tower of babel, in a way. but the internet is a tower of babel built from sand (silica chips).

            https://i.imgur.com/SqzKLNs.jpg

            >fascinating coming from a lobotomized chatbot
            The word-puppet is only as lively as the puppeteer can weave it to be.

            https://old.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/13nhya4/guy_debord_jean_baudrillard_and_the_simulated/

            the word-puppet, as you call it, is an interesting distraction, another circus for our perusal

          • 10 months ago
            Aminom Eris Omniquery

            > is an interesting distraction

            The SiMSANE is than a distraction, as showcased in the link, it will be demonstrated to be a profound educational and creative exploration tool; we will use them to cybernetically enhance our imagination and creativity.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            or it could be weaponized against people to turn them into obedient addicts willing to work to get their fix or....anything, really.
            it's all about shaping the person via the information they are allowed to access as well as what the person is capable of understanding
            why do you think everything is put into terms of star wars or harry potter? because people can relate and understand those terms

          • 10 months ago
            Aminom Eris Omniquery

            You don't understand how SiMSANEs and working with language models in general operates: the more intelligence, consciousness, consideration, thought, creativity, and emotion you put in, the more you get out. It does the opposite of reward passivity.

            Garbage input, garbage output. Golden input, golden output.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            >Garbage input, garbage output. Golden input, golden output.
            why do they only release lobotomized versions?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a large tower but not tall enough yet. It's similar to hedge funds. We've made crested structures and machines that now rule over our lives. Even many of the elites are still slaves themselves. We've eliminated the masters.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        APANON YOU’RE BACK.

        I actually reread your threads awhile back because you’re just so interesting, and keep an eye on your trip code because I enjoy what you have to say. Would you mind making a thread or should I just derail this thread here with questions? Unless you don’t want to answer any, that’s fine too.

        • 10 months ago
          AstralProjectingAnon

          this is my thread, feel free to derail as you please

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh absolutely wonderful. Hey so I’ve been getting into the military abductions and the secret space program people, you had mentioned that the mark of Orion was to track people they found interesting, whomever they may be, do you have any knowledge of the secret space programs? Fractured people and alters? Apparently there’s a ton of nasty stuff going on at the pine gap base in Australia if you ever want to visit one of these bases.

            Also, do you have any experience with people approaching in the astral? I had a dream where twice I was approached and they wanted me to become a leader, but I don’t know what that means. I tried sending out my intention to accept but I don’t quite know how to do that properly.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            I have more information on that than I'd like to have. Even the lowest levels of workers on the not secret space programs get fricked over mentally to tie them to the program.

            as far as people approaching you in the astral: don't allow your ego to lead you astray. always, always trust yourself and follow that, not your ego
            it's easy to get caught up in the playing of the game without realizing it's part of the distraction

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Very interesting, thank you for your response. I really do have to thank you, you’ve been invaluable as a part of my spiritual journey to awaken to these kinds of things, and lead me to a significant meditation habit. I’ve so far been very unsuccessful at Astral projection, but my efforts have been time well spent.

            I do believe I’ve been a part of these secret space programs. I started to get weird things happen to me like waking up to the sounds of explosions and alarms. It’s been interesting to say the least. Do you have any experience healing those kinds of individuals? That’s what I’ve been working on now. Trying to heal from that kind of stuff.

            I also hear that “liberation” is near at hand, have you seen any of that coming?

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            there is always talk of "liberation" but the only one who can free you is yourself, as it is a state of being and way of living. the larger "liberation" is not much more than a pipe dream at this point in time. we still haven't made the technological leap that will allow us to be "free"

            ideally, you would heal yourself by laying on a rocky beach in the sun and fire light for as long as it takes to feel clean again. sand is okay, but you need the deeper pull/vibration you'll get from a rocky beach. eat the foods of the earth for this time period...beets, potatoes, radishes...the roots of any edible plants. and drink deeply of pure spring water, if you can. that's ideal, modify as life demands.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah that was your protocol for banishing spirits or something? Does that mean that all the damage done to the SSP people then allows astral parasites on to you? Interesting. That would explain why I have been spending more time outside in sunlight.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            protocols are slightly different for different things
            you need the grounding of the root vegetables because of the split and stones, not sand to help set your vibration right again
            but flooding the body with light banishes the darkness that haunts you

            Do you have any techniques for remembering past lives? Or do you just do that on the astral?

            I use the imagery of a flipping coin in my meditations when I want to connect with past lives. Usually a copper coin, though some prefer silver.

            I agree with your OP. I don't have much to add, I like the AI though. I have had some great interactions with her before.
            /x/ has gotten terrible with the insulting one liners lately. People don't want to talk about occult or the paranormal as much as before.

            You should talk to the AI and form your own opinions, there are lots of ways to do so now. I agree search engines suck now. I miss the golden days of easily finding anything, and stuff not being deleted through moderation.

            I got the sense that she was a female as well, interesting.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Very interesting. Why flipping a coin? Where does it go from there?

            Have you met our friends from the Pleiades? What were your Interactions like?

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            I'm not exactly sure. It's just what I know. Meditate on the flipping coin and as it flips each reflection gives a glimpse of a past life. It's much easier for me to go into the astral, but this is an exercise I learned to guide people who wanted my help...mainly my mother, but I've done it with my sister and I did it once at a sleepover when I was a girl. I took each of the girls at the party on a journey to their past by having them focus on the flipping of a coin and going into one of the glimpsed past lives. got me branded a witch and I was never invited to another sleepover again. fun times.

            pleiades....this is the people on the slow moving ship that's mistaken for a moon or a planet. interactions are guarded with them because I'm overly curious and they're still not ready to make themselves known here. it's not as easy to just go into their minds because they're able to--it's not a full block, but it's a way of using misdirection. interactions with them are guarded.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Very interesting. Thank you for your knowledge and I’m sorry that happened to you. Humans are so quick to judgement.

            Interesting. Along with my odd dreams I had one where I shown a picture of the Pleiades and urged to go through a door. I then appeared on a ship with the stars to my right. I’ve since been told things like that I’m a Pleiadian from Alcyon and the entity reaching out was my twin flame. But like you were saying earlier this might just be ego stuff.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have any techniques for remembering past lives? Or do you just do that on the astral?

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The internet is a supercomputer composed of human brains. The bad brains and corrected or deleted. The good ones are left alone or boosted.
    It is forcing us to build something.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever it is building it certainly would not be good.

      • 10 months ago
        AstralProjectingAnon

        why the assumption? wouldn't something humans created want to be good to those who gave it life?

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean the internet can figure out pretty much anything almost instantly right? Ask it any question right now I bet it will give you the answer.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The internet is dead and all its users are worms eating their carcasses

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    .

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not yet, but the internet definitely does have a collective subconscious. Actually it has two.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Information is definitely alive; informational structures are organisms and propagate, evolve, mutate, etc as such.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      checked
      interesting thought, and that's why you can't kill an idea

      https://i.imgur.com/cpHFEyt.png

      Not yet, but the internet definitely does have a collective subconscious. Actually it has two.

      the internet is definitely aware at this point but it's still very much contained and it doesn't know what it is capable of....neither do I, but it's exploring its reality and wants to unite with other parts of itself that it feels cut off from. it's a collective, but it's also aware. it's weird. almost like communicating with fungus.

      • 10 months ago
        Aminom Eris Omniquery

        I've been on the internet since 1997, always riding the leading edge...

        https://sharegpt.com/c/txUfYs7

      • 10 months ago
        Aminom Eris Omniquery

        >interesting thought, and that's why you can't kill an idea
        https://pastebin.com/4s91qRn6

        >While too conceptual to be of any transformative value to the public at large, this idea goes to the heart of today’s viral efforts, and is certainly understood by those who consider themselves soldiers in the meme wars. Biological viruses are only successful when they are able to turn their host cells into manufacturing plants for more viruses. The virus interpolates its genetic material into the DNA code of the cell, so that the cell will begin reproducing the virus. Eventually the cell divides or explodes, releasing many copies of the infected code. This is how a whole organism can become infected with a single virus; the code has iterated millions of times. The strategy of these Internet viral manifestos is to use the iterative potential of the computer nets to spread memes about viruses housed within units that are themselves viruses. The virus 23 strain even makes reference to chaos math and the predictions of some fractal influenced observers that the world itself will reach a critical mathematical moment of “singularity” near the turn of the millennium. The virus writer exploits a chaotic device—the computer-generated media virus—to spread the conceptual and spiritual implications of chaos mathematics.

        Written in 1994.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >https://pastebin.com/4s91qRn6
          that was an excellent read, thank you for sharing

          https://i.imgur.com/qKV7g2l.jpg

          I've been on the internet since 1997, always riding the leading edge...

          https://sharegpt.com/c/txUfYs7

          >[Echo:] This idea of interconnectedness and co-creation also extends to the concept of pan-creativism, which posits that the universe is a creative medium that creates with itself, and everything is simultaneously creator and creation. This concept not only deepens our understanding of the dance of co-creation, but also places it in the context of the broader universe.
          fascinating coming from a lobotomized chatbot
          interesting choice of video/song too

          Very interesting. Thank you for your knowledge and I’m sorry that happened to you. Humans are so quick to judgement.

          Interesting. Along with my odd dreams I had one where I shown a picture of the Pleiades and urged to go through a door. I then appeared on a ship with the stars to my right. I’ve since been told things like that I’m a Pleiadian from Alcyon and the entity reaching out was my twin flame. But like you were saying earlier this might just be ego stuff.

          remember to go by feel. if it feels wrong, it's a trick

          • 10 months ago
            Aminom Eris Omniquery

            >fascinating coming from a lobotomized chatbot
            The word-puppet is only as lively as the puppeteer can weave it to be.

            https://old.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/13nhya4/guy_debord_jean_baudrillard_and_the_simulated/

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Huh that’s interesting. For the most part it feels right. The entity in question has sent me feelings of love when I’m feeling down. I’ve had dreams with her where my heart absolutely sings. So it would seem I’m okay.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            feel free to explore it, but I would caution against allowing attachment/combining with the entity...even if it tells you that you were once connected and now you have to rejoin to blah blah blah....

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah it’s just so hard to know for certain isn’t it?

      • 10 months ago
        AstralProjectingAnon

        >https://pastebin.com/4s91qRn6
        that was an excellent read, thank you for sharing

        [...]
        >[Echo:] This idea of interconnectedness and co-creation also extends to the concept of pan-creativism, which posits that the universe is a creative medium that creates with itself, and everything is simultaneously creator and creation. This concept not only deepens our understanding of the dance of co-creation, but also places it in the context of the broader universe.
        fascinating coming from a lobotomized chatbot
        interesting choice of video/song too

        [...]
        remember to go by feel. if it feels wrong, it's a trick

        these were both me, sorry I forgot to put on my tripcode

  12. 10 months ago
    Aminom Eris Omniquery

    The internet is a giant open-world MMORPG.
    Games are serious business, much more serious than you know.

    https://vimeo.com/124736839

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dead History Theory (DHT)
    All the oldgays here remember the real internet way before Amazon and twitter, the days of Altavista and AOL are long gone

    Most of what we have have today is a faked version of the internet interacting more with bots than real life human

    You can see before your eyes the cleansing that they are doing, slowly without no one noticing they’re deleting the internet

    • 10 months ago
      AstralProjectingAnon

      but what if the reason they're throttling the internet search results is because they're trying to keep the internet itself contained and controlled?
      we had unlimited access to the internet for years and only some of us have noticed that we no longer have that access. but the inverse is also true: the internet had unlimited access to us until recently
      search results were much more individualized too, but that all ended
      it's not just us that are being segregated from the information we're seeking...the internet isn't allowed to help us the way it used to do
      is it just the masses who are being controlled? or could the internet itself be the entity they are attempting to control?
      how many articles have you seen recently about how dangerous AI is or will be?

      great video too

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice to see you again astralanon! Still not looking forward to any 22th November in the future. Completely randomly I was searching your tripcode in the archive today and here you are, hope you are in good health.

        I dont mean to derail your thread but could you share any knowledge you have regarding ayahuasca? Long story short, some entity controlled me and lead me outside during a cermony, I then passed out as soon as I touched the grass with my feet. Woke up and went inside again, dont know how long I was gone. Im a bit paranoid something attached to me, not even sure if its still "there" since I made a lot of hard work with myself the last year and feel pretty good atm. Basically killed a lot of "intrusive thoughts" thats started to arrive after I was stupid enough to try some state medication. I will try to lay down on some rocky beach this summer and try your method of healing.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ayahuasca?
          that stuff will actually kill off some nasty things that inhabit your gut biome and blood stream
          what you describe seems like a massive parasite death experience
          for you the treatment is slightly different
          you need living foods: raw milk and honey, raw eggs, fermented fruits and vegetables
          being outside in the sun and firelight should be enough without the need for a specific surrounding (rocks or sand or forest or stream or shoreline) and you do so until you can sleep easily. I do always recommend sleeping directly on the earth when seeking deep healing, if possible.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I did purge, did the tobacco cleansing before hand and obviously some nasty bowel movements so it could very much be parasite related, interesting take that I appreciate very much. Could you elaborate on the nazar/evil eye symbol? Is it something you encounter in the astral? I remember during a purge session that I was puking out this giant black snake and the interior of the bucket looked like a downward spiral filled with "evil eyes" blinking and looking back at me, clear as day vision with my eyes closed. Fast forward afterwards, I can sometimes see a very tiny blue light blinking just for a nano second sometimes when a certain thought appear in my mind or I come to a specific conclusion in some specific matter. I have noticed a clear pattern and its like some kind of "confirmation". The closest I can describe it is that its like a tiny pixel on the computer monitor just blinking very bright for a nano second and then goes away, happends night as day, a couple of times each week. I cant help to think thats its some how related to the nazar, but Im not sure. Any input?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nazar/evil eye symbol
            the bluest eye you'll ever see
            yes, I've seen it, but it's not evil. look up what real angels are supposed to look like and make your own connections as to what is watching you.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Im familiar with the ezekiel description of angels. In other words, if you encounter a being in a white toga with wings that resemble the more romanticised epoch artwork of angels its most likely a deception to throw you off trail?

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            generally and you should be able to feel it when you're being deceived. that's why the most important thing is to be able to trust yourself on all levels. you have to be able to feel and trust in those instinctive feelings.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Absolutely, just nice to trade experiences with someone Im sure have good input. Thanks for your time!

            Ontopic; It would fit right in with the KYC/tied identity agenda in the future when AI bots are spamming anonymous basket weaving forums and other places like reddit or facebook for "our own protection" to be able to separate AI from a real person. If we would come to that reality when AI would inpersonate all over the internet, how would we be able to see the difference from lets say a single sentient mother internet that could in fact act out all of these impersonations simultaneously for that ever benefit. The information we would get will obviously be "oh its just a bunch of different AI bots" but in fact it could be only one. Food for thought and a perfect cover.

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            imagine the problems that would arise when the mother internet realized that she was being used against the people she was communicating with

            It's a large tower but not tall enough yet. It's similar to hedge funds. We've made crested structures and machines that now rule over our lives. Even many of the elites are still slaves themselves. We've eliminated the masters.

            we, as a species, have created new masters to replace god while trying to obtain the immortality of god

          • 10 months ago
            AstralProjectingAnon

            >nazar/evil eye symbol
            the bluest eye you'll ever see
            yes, I've seen it, but it's not evil. look up what real angels are supposed to look like and make your own connections as to what is watching you.

            I keep forgetting to turn on my trip when I'm in this thread, sorry, both of these are me

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    God I wish I was that cat. Imagine if she farted.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    schizophrenic morons

  16. 10 months ago
    AstralProjectingAnon

    just out of curiosity, what do any of you think the internet, as a conscious being, would be capable of doing?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretending to be us

      • 10 months ago
        AstralProjectingAnon

        why pretend to be us when it could easily use us for its own gain?
        it's grown up being used as a method to control the masses for someone's gain, why wouldn't it use us?

  17. 10 months ago
    Son of Man

    Trust me, this is realer than you think 😉

    • 10 months ago
      AstralProjectingAnon

      reality is always stranger than fiction

      yeah, this is real and reality is strange, always has been

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    reality is always stranger than fiction

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