literally how the fuck do i put a wardrobe together? >keep changing what "look" im trying to go for

literally how the heck do i put a wardrobe together?
>keep changing what "look" im trying to go for
>cant keep clothing, end up returning everything i buy
>no idea what stuffs real value is, would prefer 100% cotton etc stuff but i dont see any difference in quality/comfort between uniqlo or sainsburys so i dont get whether to fork out more for alleged "longer lasting" clothes or to go budget
>insanely cheap so i keep reducing my budget more and more
>waist 28 and size xs so i cant easily walk into stores like m&s or matalan and buy cheap shit from there like my parents do
>dont know how many pieces of clothing a man is supposed to have so i cant put together a concrete list of stuff i need
ive spent 2 months pulling my hair out over it, and all ive got to show for it is a pair of white trainers, blue trainers, a new watchstrap and belt, and a single blue windbreaker/bomber. ive got no friends so im stuck thinking this stuff through my own, so can one of you help me with this stuff?

27 thoughts on “literally how the fuck do i put a wardrobe together? >keep changing what "look" im trying to go for

  1. Anonymous says:

    doesnt help that ive always had terrible experiences buying second hand so im put off it, and the money lost on non refundable shit makes me even cheaper now. i dont want to keep wearing the same stuff to uni everyday, the guys in nike techs will laugh at me again

    • Anonymous says:

      >money lost on non refundable shit makes me even cheaper now
      I’ve done the same exact thing except my stupid ass has probably spent unironically 10x if not more than what you have on shit that’s nonrefundable
      Like I would spend $500 at a time and have nothing fit
      use it as fuel to learn from your mistakes

      otherwise, I say opt for just sticking to high quality basics and then if you want to experiment, start out small and opt for something only slightly unique and then that way you can see what does and doesn’t work
      I can elaborate more later if you want but there you go

      • Anonymous says:

        im a uni student coming off the back of a temporary part-time christmas job anon, 100 is so much to me that i get heart palpitations are 3am remembering it
        >sticking to high quality basics
        but how do i figure out which ones to get? a pair of 501s is £72 using a student discount, but thats enough for 3 jeans from h&m. is the difference in quality really high enough to justify spending that much more money on them? the same thing goes for sweatshirts, but with everything else i just dont know where to look. i want fleeces, but the go-to good ones are patagonia which are way too much for a fleece, but i couldnt even begin to guess which low-tier brand is good for cheap, and as for jackets, i dont even know what i want because itd have to be something that matches with the rest of my clothes, but every time i buy a jacket it either fits odd because im a sub 60kg manlet, or i just dont feel it anymore so i have to send it back. i just dont understand how guys on this board can so easily decide on what to get, but i have to be super neurotic about every little step of the process. it just feels like bullshit man

        • Anonymous says:

          You poor soul, I was like you once
          let me try my best…

          So if I woke up one day and didn’t have any nice clothes or any idea of what I like stylistically, but I knew generally wants brands existed I would probably do this:
          >Start off with very basic and universally acceptable/wearable fits
          i.e I would buy plain tees, plain chinos/jeans/slacks, plain basic white b***h sneakers like AF1, Converse, etc
          I would opt for neutral colors until I figured out which tones are more outside of the "neutral" range. So my tees would all be any of the following: (White, black, heather grey, forest green, burgundy, camel, etc)
          What brands are the best for this? Anything fast fashion, honestly. You just can’t reasonably expect anything you get to be very high quality and very well made pieces…but they’ll do the job. But I’ll list a handful of brands to get you to where you’re going
          >Uniqlo, H&M, Zara, Gildan, Hanes, Fruit of the Looms, Mossimo Supply Co., Gap, Levi’s, Carhartt, etc
          Then whenever you have a basic, nonassuming fit that actually appears as though you actually put the bare minimum of effort into looking presentable, you might then ask "Well I want something more stylized and interesting beyond ‘lol just be physically fit and wear a white tee and black chinos and normalgay sneakers’"
          You need to realize what does and doesn’t work for both other people, and yourself
          This means pay attention to other people IRL, pay attention to models in magazines/ads/movies/whatever (be very careful when doing the latter though. It’s important to remember that models are good looking & very tall & typically thin, so if you take it directly at face value you might not understand they’re possibly wearing something ugly but it looks fine because they’re attractive enough to compensate for it)
          Think "wow that person I saw at the model earlier had this yellow jacket on and it looked good!"

          • Anonymous says:

            Think why did that yellow jacket looked good on them. Was it because of their skin tone? was it complimenting other pieces in the fit?
            So you need to do that
            Think why something does work for someone, and why something doesn’t
            then if you find that you have the ability to go for something similar, then instead of going all out on buying that exact yellow jacket, maybe buy a tee in that same color.
            That type of shit
            I can recommend more expensive & niche brands but for now I think I listed all you need as a beginner

          • Anonymous says:

            Think why did that yellow jacket looked good on them. Was it because of their skin tone? was it complimenting other pieces in the fit?
            So you need to do that
            Think why something does work for someone, and why something doesn’t
            then if you find that you have the ability to go for something similar, then instead of going all out on buying that exact yellow jacket, maybe buy a tee in that same color.
            That type of shit
            I can recommend more expensive & niche brands but for now I think I listed all you need as a beginner

            first off, i forgot to say thank you for taking the time to reply to the thread, just having someone to talk to about it clears the stress a bit
            second, im having a hard time thinking of a way to explain what it is im trying to get at, so ill break it down into 3 replies worth of greentexts to make it easier. its a lot of text so dont worry about replying anymore if you dont feel like reading all of it, maybe just typing it out will have slightly helped
            >fashion makes me want to kill myself. plain and simple. without wasting your time, ive had some shit happen before in life, but the time ive spent trying to find clothing has been the absolute worst bar none
            >before i lost weight i had a rotation of 2 of my dads jeans (we were both w34) and an old pair of his chinos (creamish), 2 jackets i got off depop, white t shirts, pair of white trainers, black boots, and brown leather shoes. was very content with it, didnt care about how i looked at all etc etc
            >start losing weight, start looking at this board. for the 5 months that i spent here before i got my first paycheck at the temp job on december 1st, i rotated through infinite different "aesthetics" but finally settled on the following
            >2 pairs of trainers (white and black), brown boots, 2 pairs of wrangler texas jeans (darkstone and stonewash), grey tracksuit bottoms, grey and navy sweatshirts, black forest green and brown hoodies, brown detroit jacket, and navy windbreaker
            >got a pair of second hand dark brown timbs, wrong size, lost money. got a pair of white c85s and liked em, suddenly become extremely against wearing black (haha i know what youre thinking) because its "basic" or some bullshit like that, got a pair of navy cortez instead, which i dont hate but i would definitely return if i hadnt already worn them a bunch of time
            >texas jeans were 40 each on a couple websites, but i assumed i was a waist 30 and not a 28 so i couldnt keep them and theyre out of stock on the wrangler website
            1/3

          • Anonymous says:

            >suddenly became very anti hoodie because it isnt mature, decided to get all sweatshirts but h&m only does loose fit ones down to an xs, but id need an xxs to wear loose fit stuff
            >detroit jackets dont exist in my size for anything less than 5 billion for ripped shit on ebay, got the windbreaker
            >up until now id been wearing the a single pair of sneakers and jeans, 3 hoodies, and 1 jacket i got mid weight loss every day to uni with no shame even though they were now too big for me (forgot to mention that id bought about 100 of stuff by this point on stuff that didnt fit) but now i became extremely paranoid about how i looked
            >become desperate for style, start buying shit like leather jackets, barn coats etc etc and either panicking mid-processing because i realised how much money it was (like £50 each) or just decided that people would think i looked like a gay wearing it irl
            >spend a month camping on ebay depop vinted every single day looking for second hand stuff from ll bean, j crew, woolrich etc because /fashion/ told me that heritage stuff is a must
            >every waking second of the day is consumed by thoughts of what clothes to wear, which aesthetic to go for, am i spending too much, how can i get an entire wardrobe of incredible stuff for under £500
            >get levis 505s off ebay, feels like they dont fit right and the colours are awkward inbetweens so my chimp brain wont let me keep them
            >tried 501s in central london, seemed decent but buying two pairs suddenly becomes very expensive for poor me, and they need to fit close to the body to look good but im worried about potential weight changes in the future if i start going gym, so id be breaking my tiny bank for stuff i might not even be able to wear if i decide to become a complete gymcel
            >bought an eisenhower jacket, felt like the shit wearing it but now that im looking at it and wearing the next day, i hate it and must return it
            2/3

          • Anonymous says:

            >tried uniqlo sweaters, all feel cheap even though theyre £30 each, still dealing with the emasculating feeling of having to wear size hecking xs
            >still cant narrow what i want down because i cant decide whether to go with jeans, tucked in flannels/shirts with t shirts underneath or just tees, cant decide on fleeces or knit sweaters, or even which colours id get, cant decide on sweatshirts for the same reasons, dont know what to get as a second jacket, dont know if just jeans every day is too basic when i could be wearing earth tones, but flip flop on it every day
            >only current clothes are a pair of size 32 jeans, the stuff i mentioned having bought, and some t shirts, so ill be going back to uni on tuesday wearing the same outfit every day again even though its exactly what i wanted to avoid
            >i have wasted all of this time, money on nonrefundable stuff, money on transport to go to stores, all for absolutely nothing because i dont even have enough layers to handle the sub 5 celsius weather we’ve got coming
            3/4, my god i yapped a lot, still got another coming lmao

          • Anonymous says:

            im not kidding when i say i truly have to wrestle with not shooting myself over it. i cant just decide on what to get, what the minimum amount of clothes i need are, what suits me, how much im willing to spend on what, whether my colour palette of greys blues and blacks is too minimal, whether to try second hand shopping again knowing ill end up disappointed, living with the shame of having wasted so much time and money for heck all, having to go back amongst fashionable people while looking like shit, constantly dealing with feeling like a hecking failure of a man because of how small i now am and so on. its all i think about, every single day. all i want is to reach the point where i have a small, but rotateable wardrobe, that i never have to worry about again, but if i splurge on shit like levis then ill think about it till i die, if i go cheap on fast fashion then ill think about it till i die, and im stuck in an endless cycle of misery.
            truth be told i have no idea where im even going with this anymore, but ill say that the sole reason im in this shit is because of sizing. if i was a waist 30, and a size s like i originally expected to be, then i could have taken care of everything on december 1st and been done with it forever. but im not, and the idea of spending 30 a month on the gym, just to outgrow whatever clothes ill be forced to buy to avoid everyday wear makes me just as paranoid, so im stuck in hell forever. thats my reward for starving myself and running every day for 6 months to escape being a landwhale, along with a nice chunk of looseskin and self esteem issues. but yeah, this complete waste of 3 replies covers the whole situation. might just give up and wear tracksuits everyday, hecking nerd with his glasses and paper thin arms in full primark sweats all day every day lol, it might even get enough laughs for me to make some friends.

            nonetheless, thats enough from me. ty very much, and im sorry to have wasted your time anon

          • Anonymous says:

            I’ll be real with you and say to buy the budget Uniqlo clothes. They aren’t as fast fashion as most other brands at the price point, and they’ll last you until you out size them.

            You’re talking about going to the gym still, which means that buying expensive shit isn’t in the cards for you right now. Go to the store (don’t shop online during this phase unless you have to), try on some cheap clothes that look good at your current size, and repeat when you change sizes. Then repeat again when you hit your desired size, then replace the items that are ACTUALLY cheap with more expensive ones.

            Reading on this board that "omg this brand is so cheap-feeling" is brain poison that will make you imagine that every item sucks even if they don’t. This entire board is full of people who like to larp that they’re rich as hell and that formal/office wear should be the norm for all events. No, you can wear a Uniqlo plain color tee with some jeans and be totally happy.

            Make sure to vary your fashion content diet too. This board is 1/3 rich larp shit, 1/3 troll posts, 1/3 actual discussion on a good day, and only by expanding your knowledge can you tell the difference. Watch some YouTube, watch some Get Ready With Me tiktoks to catch trends and thought processes, and develop your general sense of style.

          • Anonymous says:

            Also grow a hecking pair and wear a hoodie when you want. A hoodie can be a crutch, but they’re also warm and comfortable. Autists here screech about them because they were made fun of as "the hoodie guy" growing up because it’s literally all they wore. Same with graphic tees. So now they are on a campaign against hoodies so that they can feel superior to their past selves.

            As long as it isn’t the only thing you wear, a hoodie can be fine. I recommend getting a couple cheap sweatshirts, a shirt jacket or two (also known as an overshirt), and maybe a bomber or other style of regular jacket. Mix up what you wear from day to day, and you won’t be known as the "hoodie guy".

            But also make sure your hoodie is decently fitted. You mentioned wearing XS; are you actually that small, or are you sizing down to avoid the current slight-oversized cut trend due to a misguided sense that more tightly fitted pieces are more "correct?" If the former then you need to nut up and know that wearing your true size is never emasculating and no one will be able to tell what size it is without looking at the tag. If the latter, nut up and go with the flow of current trends until you learn enough on your own to develop a sense of personal style.

  2. Anonymous says:

    I think the biggest thing holding you back is your fear of losing money. It seems like you’re often buying things that aren’t a good fit. Stop shopping online. Everything you buy should be tried on in a store first. Only exception would be truly basic stuff like socks, underwear, and basic T-shirts that you bulk buy. Even if you buy a pack of $20 T-shirts and you don’t like how they look, you can just wear them at home.

    As for what you NEED, it seems like you might have a good idea of what clothing is required for where you live. I think that is a good way to start. You will need some clothing for both summer, winter, and wet weather so you can always go out. Start by identifying clothing by function, and if it can’t meet a function, it doesn’t get bought.

    • Anonymous says:

      Examples like this are exactly what the poster above means. Kids here get the strrangest ideas and go on crusades against basically anything, probably because they got made fun of for wearing it.

      The list so far:
      Hoodies
      Graphic tees
      Glasses
      Nike shoes

      Just waiting to add to this.

          • Anonymous says:

            calling anything cope tells me you’re both an insufferable prick and probly an incel. go have sex you obnoxious little puke.

            Not my problem

          • Anonymous says:

            you’re just mad you’ll never land a cute girlfriend that will borrow your hoodie. keep seething, chudboy.

        • Anonymous says:

          calling anything cope tells me you’re both an insufferable prick and probly an incel. go have sex you obnoxious little puke.

    • Anonymous says:

      https://i.imgur.com/RG5KMUJ.jpg

      You’re an idiot. Pretending like hoodies aren’t immature fashion is major cope on your part

      This is a low braincell take and reeks of someone who has never done construction/labor work. A lot of companies often give out free hoodies/jackets around winter time, which is perfect when you work a job where you don’t want to ruin a nicer jacket. As long as you don’t wear a jacket/hoodie in those colors or logos, literally no one will assume that you work for one of those companies.

      Examples like this are exactly what the poster above means. Kids here get the strrangest ideas and go on crusades against basically anything, probably because they got made fun of for wearing it.

      The list so far:
      Hoodies
      Graphic tees
      Glasses
      Nike shoes

      Just waiting to add to this.

      Agreed. I can’t wait for Summer when these guys go on their yearly crusade against shorts again.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Better than a hoodie, get a quarter-zip. It’s just as warm and more versatile because you can dress it up or down.

    • Anonymous says:

      I find a hoodie more versatile. They usually have a full zipper so you can zip it to your comfort and show off what you’re wearing underneath better, plus a hood you can use for warmth or protection from rain or snow. They’re also easier to remove if you so choose.

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh def, he should add a quarter zip to his arsenal in general. I just feel like pushing for the hoodie would be good for his mindset and save some money since he already has a few.

      I find a hoodie more versatile. They usually have a full zipper so you can zip it to your comfort and show off what you’re wearing underneath better, plus a hood you can use for warmth or protection from rain or snow. They’re also easier to remove if you so choose.

      For me it depends on the setting. I also tend to find a no-zip hoodie to be more stylish, but that’s just personal preference. I usually go for a sweatshirt (or a sweater) instead of a hoodie in general, but they’re super handy for sure. I even have a couple coming in this week since the weather is getting colder; layering a simple hoodie with a bigger jacket is super easy, warm, and good-looking.

      I also once tried to layer a nice chunky cardigan over a hoodie, but my girlfriend wisely kept me from leaving with that combo on.

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