>listen to their debut

>listen to their debut
>"oh this is dark and unsettling, what a grim song to end on, can't wait to hear more of it"
>listen to anything else they made
>it's sappy teenybopper fodder
Why does their debut eclipse everything else they did? With its production, s/t feels grimy and dangerous, but everything afterward is so clean and bloodless. Yeah, the Ramones were always "just bubblegum pop with distorted guitars", but that doesn't mean it has to actually feel like pop. Let's Dance does it better than anything off Rocket to Russia and still inspires intrigue.

What happened? Where'd the balls go?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why tf that zesty mf showing his tummy bruh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's an early punk band,it was anything goes. If it seems like they were saying/doing something unless it was something ultra super shocking like illegal illegal other then drugs than they probably were.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's an early punk band,it was anything goes. If it seems like they were saying/doing something unless it was something ultra super shocking like illegal illegal other then drugs than they probably were.

      it was an ironic gay thing. guy on the right was a male prostitute (ironically). It was done to build their sort of edgy image, essentially early queerbaiting. Think guyliner but in the 1970's.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        everybody dressed like that in the 1970s
        Look at the booty shorts basketball players wore. It wasn't a gay or edgy thing, it was just that people were more relaxed letting their balls hang out. No one cared back then.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ironically
        He did that to score smack, it wasn’t “ironically”

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    weird opinion? rocket to russia is the best ramones album

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I might be missing something. I think the low-production sound is a big part of this kind of music's appeal, which the debut captures really well and which later albums sort of lose. What appeals to you about Rocket?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but it's not like it sounds like overproduced pop or anything, the production still captures the raw energy of the band while giving justice to its slightly more polished songwriting, I think that listening to too much punk melted your brain

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the songs on rocket are just better. sheena, rockaway, happy family. im a guy who doesnt care much about production unless its egregiously bad or good though.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are retarded

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too Tough to Die is a good album, and that's from '84. I'm a big Ramones fan, I love all their stuff, even the shitty albums have a few good songs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Animal Boy chads chiming in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll always defend Brain Drain. Such a great Halloween album.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm a Nazi baby I'm a Nazi yes I am

    ?
    The original meme/troll music, paving the way for Devo and modern shitposters

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >paving the way for Devo and modern shitposters
      Devo predate the ramones

      %3D

      >The WMMS-FM Halloween Party was a 1975 private concert hosted by the Ohio based commercial radio station WMMS. The headliner of the evening was experimental jazz musician Sun Ra, with Devo opening for him. Eddie Barger, the group's soundman had made connections to the station and booked the gig as a practical joke. He informed the hosts that DEVO were a slick Bad Company cover band, which of course they were not. The group performed the most devolved of all their material that night, and debuted Jocko Homo in an extended version that Mark Mothersbaugh recalls as being 25 - 30 minutes long.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also, nearly the entire audience had left by the time Sun Ra came on.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also, nearly the entire audience had left by the time Sun Ra came on.

        >What was funny to us about the hard core punk movement was that it had just as many rules as they wanted to break. They were very orthodox, those punks. They decided you had to do x, y, and z to be punk. We figured that we were really what was punk about punk, because punk is supposedly irreverent or disrespectful or questioning a very core assumption, and we certainly were doing that.
        I wish Devo stuck to the punk sound of their first three albums (Freedom is borderline). It's not that synth Devo is bad, but synth Devo at its best (Big Mess) isn't as good as punk Devo at its best (Gut Feeling).
        Plus I agree with Casale that leaning too hard into the whole robot synth thing, with drum machines and mechanically perfect sequencing, ended up detracting from the core concept (a band that isn't actually robotic but sounds so tight that it may as well be).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          synth devo towers over punk devo to such a staggering degree as to render it invisible

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ON!ID is a great and truly unique album, but it doesn't beat Duty Now. Shout is probably the worst thing I've ever heard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so, like yeah. Mark E. Smith said it was about 8-9 months before all punk bands started dressing identically and singing about the same topics.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big brain:
    >Ramones should have ended with their first album.
    Galaxy brain:
    >Punk rock should have ended with Ramones first album

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dark and unsettling
    >Hey, little girl, I want to be your boyfriend
    >Sweet little girl, I want to be your boyfriend

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need to be 18 to post here. Also you might think Rockaway Beach is some straight Bubblegum Pop, but the fucking sarcasm about making a Beach Boys style song about a dirty NYC/Queens beach is kino.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know, I did not know Rockaway Beach looked like this. You've changed my opinion on the song, because that actually is pretty funny.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Listen to them live, it's like a different band.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that mono mix of the debut is fucking incredible, it's the only way i'll listen to the album any more.

      666 trips of truth, it's alive is as essential to listen to as any of the classic studio albums

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like The Ramones

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I DON'T WANNA BE BURIED
    IN A PET
    SEMATARY

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer dust

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ramones is a live band, like 99% of punk and derivates bands

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